Signature campaigns thread comment

[Wiwo]

I don't want to contribute to further draining of the thread that is why I created a separate thread for this discussion.

So I decided to create this poll to let us know the opinions of forum members regarding signature campaign threads and how forum members engage and what they engage on in such a thread.

This thread is motivated based on some past and current happenings in few signature campaign threads, such as this one.
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=326445.msg1680729#msg1680729

Started by manager:
AB de Royse777

[Mia Chloe]

There are always rules put in place in every community or organisation and the truth is no matter how flexible or rigid it is we will still have rule breakers. Now signature campaign threads are generally for either announcement or applications. Now anything order than that on the thread would be likely considered as spamming the thread.

The truth is managers would likely think of making threads self moderated and delete unnecessary discussions on the thread but people may view it a bias move or too harsh hence they don't self moderate . I went through the thread and other members here actually answered the member accordingly.

[Crypto Library]

I don't want to contribute to further draining of the thread that is why I created a separate thread for this discussion.

So I decided to create this poll to let us know the opinions of forum members regarding signature campaign threads and how forum members engage and what they engage on in such a thread.

This thread is motivated based on some past and current occupancy on few signature campaign threads, such as this one.
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=326445.msg1680729#msg1680729

Started by manager:
AB de Royse777

I don't see anything unethical here. One can comment or share their personal opinions, but that is only their personal opinion and it is not taken for granted that the world will goes according to their opinions.
Here, the campaign manager can give 500 characters if he wants, in which case those who want to do it will do it and those who don't want to don't do that signature campaign. I think Roysee77 will give his answer very well later. But I don't see see unethical think on regarding commenting on the signature thread.

[Zed0X]

It's fine if it's just one or two comments (or occupies one page) but the thread looks messy if discussions about the rules of the campaign drags on. If there is a need to discuss further, then creating a separate topic and inviting the manager to look at it is more appropriate.

[bitterguy28]

unless prohibited by the campaign managers, i think it is just fine for members to comment and engage in discussions under the signature campaign post i even think that it encourages more activity and shows great connection and involvement among the members in the community

if the managers do not want any discussion and wants that thread to be strictly for professional or business related purposes only well they should just say it explicitly so that the members do not get confused

[Jokers]

If a campaign manager has no issues with that why should we have? If campaign managers will say that it makes too much mess, then there will be a point of changing something. But if users have questions about some campaign it looks like a proper place to ask these questions in the campaign thread, right?

Well, let's wait if campaign managers will give their comments on this topic.

[Findingnemo]

In my opinion, it's okay to ask a question or two and someone can answer for that in the campaign thread itself but if it's becoming a long discussion or debate then the people to take the business somewhere else. Since the actual purpose of the campaign thread is to post applications so manager can review and accept participants.

[hugeblack]

Discussion about campaign related matters should be within the thread but discussion about rules and other matters is better done in a separate thread or the campaign manager's ANN, such discussions about rules will not add anything new to campaign and should be deleted.

[libert19]

A good number of comments yet no one has voted on poll? Anyway, I have went to second option as that's what I see often happening with signature threads, and as long as comments are relevant to the thread being discussed, it's fair, discussion happening in thread linked is also fair.

[mu_enrico]

IMHO, from a regular "peasant" member perspective, it's fine to post anything related to the campaign (written on the opener page). However, if there's something that needs to be specially addressed, it's better to create a separate & specific thread. Not sure why @OP added the word "intervene" on the poll since the one who is most likely to complain is the campaign manager himself. If he's fine with the added difficulty of seeing/reviewing the applications, why not?

[yhiaali3]

In my opinion, the threads of signature campaigns should be limited to applications and some other necessary things like payment, payment issues, leaving the campaign, etc.

Of course, the final decision on this matter is up to the campaign managers themselves whether they allow it or not, but mostly through the campaigns I have participated in, the topic of the campaign is only for applications and as for other questions and side discussions, a separate topic can be made for them.

[Wiwo]

IMHO, from a regular "peasant" member perspective, it's fine to post anything related to the campaign (written on the opener page). However, if there's something that needs to be specially addressed, it's better to create a separate & specific thread. Not sure why @OP added the word "intervene" on the poll since the one who is most likely to complain is the campaign manager himself. If he's fine with the added difficulty of seeing/reviewing the applications, why not?

The one that I mentioned intervain is because like a case in stake signature campaign on bitcointalk, there was a time where the community call out the rules of the campaign and which brings much spam on the forum and despite strong defense the manager yielded to the pressure and changed some rules in the campaign.

Although the manager has every right as we have observed with a few managers, not every one of them likes comments aside from applications on the signature campaign page, whatever discussion or requests are better entertained via PM.

[PX-Z]

When it comes to signature campaign related issue, posting on the actual thread is fine, but if it's about your or someone's opinion regarding the campaign, then it should be done on other thread to continue the discussion.

When it comes to rules, at the end of the day it's always the manager who will be followed.

[Igebotz]

In my opinion, the threads of signature campaigns should be limited to applications and some other necessary things like payment, payment issues, leaving the campaign, etc.

Of course, the final decision on this matter is up to the campaign managers themselves whether they allow it or not, but mostly through the campaigns I have participated in, the topic of the campaign is only for applications and as for other questions and side discussions, a separate topic can be made for them.

As much as I want to see only applications on signature campaign threads, I don't mind comments or concerns about specific campaign guidelines on the thread for clarification, but most of the time this discussion devolved into an attack, troll, and other off-topic conversation.

 No manager wants their application thread to turn into a discussion, but because the majority of them choose non-self-moderated threads, these unwelcome discussions persist.

[LogitechMouse]

A little bit of an interaction that connected to the signature campaign would be acceptable, but if it would be 1-2 pages of posts coming from different users with regards to a single problem isn't because like you said, it would create a mess towards the whole thread.

However, the campaign manager could do things to prevent it:
1. Make it self-moderated. I don't see any reason for the campaign managers to delete application, but in deleting some posts that would clog the overall thread is.
2. The campaign manager themselves will say to not interact on that thread anymore. Making a post with regards to this one will take a minute or 2 for the campaign manager, and for sure, all will stop after that.

With regards to what happened with Betfury signature thread campaign, well I also shared my opinion with regards to one concern, but that's it. At the end of the day, the manager will make their own rules, and we will follow it like what most are  saying.