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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2024, 10:23:08 PM »
How do you know people tend to lose money than to gain money in trading? Did you hold a research? Or you get the data from a valid source? Kindly enclose the link of the source if you get the data from somewhere.

I think it is quite difficult to determine most people get profits or get losses in trading. I even think we should have a bigger chance for profits because we have so many sources to learn about trading nowadays. We can watch YT videos and read articles from many valid sources. If we have many sources to improve our knowledge and skills in trading, ideally it raises the chance of gaining profits, right? However, I admit that it all depends on the capability of the traders itself.


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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2024, 02:37:29 PM »
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.

Many people going into trading were doing that out of passion and they lack the right understanding to how they should first started, trading is never a big deal to do, but some of us may not really have the idea of running the perfect trading pattern that will make us get it right, its more better not to have started than starting what we don't know about and be on losses at the end of the day.
When we are still a noob then we do really that having that high hopes that we can do trading in easy way on which we do really think that we can be able to do the same stuff on what those other traders been able to do on which at the time that you will be doing up some trading then this is where you do make out these kind of realizations that it was never been easy. Its normal for us to have those loses because we do know that there's no such thing about perfect traders or investors on which the market is that unpredictable and there's no way that you can be able to predict on where it would be going. The best thing on here is that you do really know on what you are doing and made out some adjustments accordingly.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2024, 03:36:27 PM »
Some people trade because they think they are capable of making a profit from it, and some people participate, and some people try to trade to experience the feeling of making an actual trade either buy or sell.

Now, all I mentioned is that the majority are stressed because they are not able to obtain passive income from the trading activity they are doing, despite the fact that they have enough knowledge about trading and yet they still make zero profit in the end. And probably, that's because the analysis they are doing is always wrong.
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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2024, 08:09:22 PM »
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
I can't agree more with you because these points you have discussed are definitely coming from experience, of which I suppose you have a lot. Because as a trader I most lose due to greed and fear of missing out, and TBH I am still fearing to miss out on the profit I am making from my trades in alts because I fear the alts will bleed again.

Besides self-analysis, there are many shows on YT which we should watch to see what coins they are trading and what coins they think will perform well. I won't name any show or person, as it's just an idea to get idea for ourselfs and to get a second opinion on our trades as well to see if we are on the right track otherwise market will show us the right one the hard way hehe.
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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2024, 09:32:08 PM »
Some people trade because they think they are capable of making a profit from it, and some people participate, and some people try to trade to experience the feeling of making an actual trade either buy or sell.

Now, all I mentioned is that the majority are stressed because they are not able to obtain passive income from the trading activity they are doing, despite the fact that they have enough knowledge about trading and yet they still make zero profit in the end. And probably, that's because the analysis they are doing is always wrong.
Many have been trading for a long time but their ability to make analysis is not right and that is what makes them unable to get passive income.
I am not so focused on trading, I only do it sometimes in my free time.
So trading for me is a way to get additional income, because I also have a business in the real world.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2024, 10:08:46 PM »
Some people trade because they think they are capable of making a profit from it, and some people participate, and some people try to trade to experience the feeling of making an actual trade either buy or sell.

Now, all I mentioned is that the majority are stressed because they are not able to obtain passive income from the trading activity they are doing, despite the fact that they have enough knowledge about trading and yet they still make zero profit in the end. And probably, that's because the analysis they are doing is always wrong.
Many have been trading for a long time but their ability to make analysis is not right and that is what makes them unable to get passive income.
I am not so focused on trading, I only do it sometimes in my free time.
So trading for me is a way to get additional income, because I also have a business in the real world.

crypto market is difficult to predict than the regulated stock and Forex market. the crypto market although almost regulated the whales are still manipulating the market while the government is also playing its part in manipulating is fundamental news.

can't just say they are not knowledgeable in what they do. if they are just relying on technical analysis, these traders might just be as successful in making its passive income. yet its not that simple. just look at what Elon can do with just one tweet.

All will be hyped when BTC goes really high up to $200 but once Trump does something else contrary to his first stance, this will take a dive.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2024, 10:42:11 PM »
Some people trade because they think they are capable of making a profit from it, and some people participate, and some people try to trade to experience the feeling of making an actual trade either buy or sell.

Now, all I mentioned is that the majority are stressed because they are not able to obtain passive income from the trading activity they are doing, despite the fact that they have enough knowledge about trading and yet they still make zero profit in the end. And probably, that's because the analysis they are doing is always wrong.
And many beginners do crypto trading because of their desire to get profits quickly through trading, as obtained by professional traders so far. In fact, their capacity is very different, pro traders are very reasonable when they can get higher gains than the loss. But beginners? when they don't really understand about trading and are only carried away by FOMO to join in crypto trading, the results will be mediocre, even if they carelessly use leverage, it can really damage the condition and make losing money much easier. That is why if we are really going to trade cryptocurrency, we must ensure that we are really ready with all preparations needed, not only about the money as the caputal for traidng, but also knowledge and the readiness of our mental and emotional management.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2024, 10:58:21 PM »
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Because those who come to trade are not professional traders, not everyone who comes to trade understands the psychology of this market, cannot do market analysis, and many have neither fundamental knowledge nor technical knowledge. And since their number is several times higher than professional traders in the trading world, it is natural that most people will suffer losses most of the time while trading.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2024, 11:05:18 PM »
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.

You pay fees on trades.

so more trades cost more to do. So trading often gambling on leverage all cost money,to,do.

Even when you pick,right,you,pay,more fees.
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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2024, 10:27:44 AM »
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Many traders lack patience and focus solely on making huge profits. This eagerness and willingness to succeed lead them to make impulsive decisions without carefully considering the consequences. Ultimately, they often lose significant amounts of money without understanding the causes of their failures.
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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2024, 03:56:40 PM »
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Many traders lack patience and focus solely on making huge profits. This eagerness and willingness to succeed lead them to make impulsive decisions without carefully considering the consequences. Ultimately, they often lose significant amounts of money without understanding the causes of their failures.
Many times, trading success is born out of experience since one takes iterative and deliberate actions. In any decision that one has to make there is so much merit in sitting down and be able to go through all the possibilities of the results that may be expected. When we let patience into the equation, the mind is able to get out of the autopilot and focus more, meaning that every move made is purposeful and part of a plan. Adopting a standard practice also enables us to transform the brain by establishing ways in which one can be protected from change or shock. In general, defeats can be viewed as a source of purely positive factors that can positively help to comprehend the further actions of competitors and transform the material received into capital. In this way, success appears to be more effective and realistic as an endless cycle continues.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2024, 07:21:31 AM »
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.

Well, i am writing based on your topic. I doubt if there are substantial evidence to show that traders on all trading options loses more than gaining. A loss on sport trading options are not yet a loss except a trader closes his position during a down trends movements for fear of losing all if the market dumps. A spot trader who is patience, not emotional can hit a good profit once the market bounces back.
Now, other trading options may loss more than gain because of some reason, for example, future and margin traders are open to loses especially when they over leverages their funds. I think this is the area you might be referring when you talked about people losing more than gaining. For instance, some experts published a report few days ago that about $1.2b were liquidated on both the long and short positions on the future) margin markets. A similar situation also occurred last week were many long positions on the future trading options were also liquidated

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2024, 07:44:05 AM »
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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
I believe there are many reasons, but here are the 3 that comes to my mind.
1. Risk Management - no stop-loss, always overleveraging and many more. These are just some of the proofs that the trader has poor risk management and because of this, the chances of him losing would be higher.
2. Lack of knowledge - I guess there's no need for me to explain on this one. The lesser your knowledge is, the higher the chance of you losing your money.
3. Lack of Discipline - don't let your emotions trade for you because there's a huge chance that you will lose your money if that happens. Always, always stick to your strategy, and be disciplined enough to follow your strategy.

There are many reasons why traders are losing more than gaining. At the end of the day, experience will still be the key towards our success in trading.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2024, 07:57:23 AM »
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
We need patience in trading, but this is not what we only need to be survive and become profitable. We should have a trading plan and back test it before we enter with a real account. If we can make profit in demo, we can also make it with real account. However, we should consider our emotion when we trade because normally it happens when money is involve. If we are so emotional because of losses or any circumstances we should have to avoid trading and come back when you're okay.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2024, 11:19:39 PM »
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Losing is normal in trading, but when you lose more than you are gaining, it shows that there is an error and that the amount of knowledge you have is not yet sufficient to keep you at a sustainable level where you are consistently making profits. You should gain more than you lose in trading, and you can achieve that with proper knowledge of risk management and taking time to observe the other weaknesses you have so you can strengthen them.
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