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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2025, 10:33:22 AM »
Well, we have different outcomes in trading. In my experience, instinct sometimes profits but mostly loses. When I analyze the market, I gain more profit than losing except for the counts of wins and losses because I have a longer losing streak than winnings in the trade. The only difference is that I gain more profit than losing due to risk management strategy.
I do not like to trade based solely on instinct because it is a gamble; instead, you should learn to analyse.

Think of the market like the hunter - you can't be reckless with it, otherwise, it will shoot you (your depo) down. One should be cautious, and responsible, and utilize the knowledge to not get lured into the trap of gut feelings.

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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2025, 10:33:22 AM »

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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2025, 12:22:08 PM »
Have you ever experienced an incident that did not even match expectations, where when many people always campaign that trading must use analysis, while what happens is sometimes far different from reality

- When trading using analysis, we actually lose
- When trading using instinct, we actually profit

I want to hear your experiences in trading, especially those who have been able to generate regular income from trading, do you use technical analysis, fundamentals or just use instinct or feeling?

I think instinct without analysis is equal to gambling. If a market that you want to enter with proper analysis, and instinct of going along side with the analysis comes, then the market can be in favor.
Instinct is not really most time favourable in trading, it might get in favor, but not the best to rely on.
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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2025, 12:22:08 PM »

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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2025, 11:13:53 PM »
I think instinct without analysis is equal to gambling. If a market that you want to enter with proper analysis, and instinct of going along side with the analysis comes, then the market can be in favor.
Instinct is not really most time favourable in trading, it might get in favor, but not the best to rely on.
You're right. When someone trades without any analysis, they do it carelessly and mostly like relying on the luck. This is the same as gambling, the chance to succeed is rather small. In many cases, people who do trading with their instinct to end up with losing big money. So, it is not recommended to trade with instinct, it should be based on the analysis (knowledge). Professional traders never trade with instinct, they use their knowledge.


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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2025, 08:24:25 PM »
Have you ever experienced an incident that did not even match expectations, where when many people always campaign that trading must use analysis, while what happens is sometimes far different from reality

- When trading using analysis, we actually lose
- When trading using instinct, we actually profit

I want to hear your experiences in trading, especially those who have been able to generate regular income from trading, do you use technical analysis, fundamentals or just use instinct or feeling?

I think instinct without analysis is equal to gambling. If a market that you want to enter with proper analysis, and instinct of going along side with the analysis comes, then the market can be in favor.
Instinct is not really most time favourable in trading, it might get in favor, but not the best to rely on.
Instinct is something that will be considered as gambling because it will really be that totally opposite on what you have anlayzed because usually intuition will really be having that different on which you will be having that kind of second thoughts on basing up into your analysis on which it will be that still considered gambling yet it do really opposes on what you had made out. When it comes to trading then there are really those times or moments that you will having those second thoughts and thats why its really that important that you should be having that kind of back up plans on whatever the things that you will be able to encounter. Every decisions will be having that possible outcomes and thats why you should be that prepared on that one.

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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2025, 03:36:16 AM »
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I want to hear your experiences in trading, especially those who have been able to generate regular income from trading, do you use technical analysis, fundamentals or just use instinct or feeling?
When you trade using your gut feelings, you will lose most of the time.
When you trade using technical analysis, you will make more money than using your feelings, but still, you can lose.
I haven't tried trading using fundamental analysis though.

Whatever you will use in the three of them, there's always a chance that you will lose, and your analysis might become useless in the end. Like others here, I also think that trading using your feelings is essentially gambling. I've tried using it already, and it hasn't been resulted me anything good. Always, always use technical analysis to increase your chances of winning.

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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2025, 01:00:44 PM »
I think instinct without analysis is equal to gambling. If a market that you want to enter with proper analysis, and instinct of going along side with the analysis comes, then the market can be in favor.
Instinct is not really most time favourable in trading, it might get in favor, but not the best to rely on.
You're right. When someone trades without any analysis, they do it carelessly and mostly like relying on the luck. This is the same as gambling, the chance to succeed is rather small. In many cases, people who do trading with their instinct to end up with losing big money. So, it is not recommended to trade with instinct, it should be based on the analysis (knowledge). Professional traders never trade with instinct, they use their knowledge.

Instincts are there to notify you of something.
But the final decision should be made based on facts, first and foremost.
That's my view on it.
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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2025, 04:14:23 PM »
Have you ever experienced an incident that did not even match expectations, where when many people always campaign that trading must use analysis, while what happens is sometimes far different from reality

- When trading using analysis, we actually lose
- When trading using instinct, we actually profit

I want to hear your experiences in trading, especially those who have been able to generate regular income from trading, do you use technical analysis, fundamentals or just use instinct or feeling?
Instict is you guessing or gambling that is not trading but when you are using technical analysis you know why you enter a trade although out of 10 trades 3 can be loss which is actually still a good profitability rate compared to just instinct

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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2025, 09:28:15 PM »
I will say this that we should always trade by how convinced we are to doing it, but not because others are doing it and we also want to give a try, things might not work in for us as it did on others, trading is what needs more patience, time and knowledge as well as the risk being involved to trade either to win or lose, while we all know as it is commonly said that to lose is more easier than to win, but we can change the narrative by ourself in making it right through our own personal and developed pattern of trading.

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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2025, 10:35:47 PM »
The larger part paid off by working instinctively. I also do an analysis according to which I got just as good profit, it didn't even matter on which of the popular exchanges such trading was achieved.
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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2025, 10:03:50 PM »
I will say this that we should always trade by how convinced we are to doing it, but not because others are doing it and we also want to give a try, things might not work in for us as it did on others, trading is what needs more patience, time and knowledge as well as the risk being involved to trade either to win or lose, while we all know as it is commonly said that to lose is more easier than to win, but we can change the narrative by ourself in making it right through our own personal and developed pattern of trading.
In trading we must be confident in our own abilities, not because of other people. But sometimes other people become our motivation to be able to trade better and more skillfully.
In doing research, making analysis and developing strategies we must do it ourselves so that if there is a mistake we can correct it.

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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2025, 11:55:22 PM »
I think instinct without analysis is equal to gambling. If a market that you want to enter with proper analysis, and instinct of going along side with the analysis comes, then the market can be in favor.
Instinct is not really most time favourable in trading, it might get in favor, but not the best to rely on.
Indeed, this tends to be more like gambling. Although for example with analysis does not guarantee 100 percent of the possibility of profits, but at least these efforts are one of the ways to manage the risk and minimize the possibility of loss. because usually with analysis, then there are also tactics and strategies prepared to reduce the risk of loss. However, if only with instinct and no risk management, the level of possibility of loss will be much higher. It is better to be careful when trading, don't just rely on instinct.

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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2025, 04:56:05 AM »
However, if only with instinct and no risk management, the level of possibility of loss will be much higher. It is better to be careful when trading, don't just rely on instinct.
failing to prepare is preparing to fail

if you decide to only rely on instincts with no proper analysis trust that you will be humbled really quick i do not even think the chances of loss will be higher i think there will be no chances of profit at all because it would be comparable to walking around in the dark not knowing what to do or where to go next

with proper analysis and tools you will be guided and you will have better chances in making sure you execute your plans well and you make significant profits

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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2025, 05:58:27 AM »
I will say this that we should always trade by how convinced we are to doing it, but not because others are doing it and we also want to give a try, things might not work in for us as it did on others,
Trading with high confidence will certainly raise high hopes, while trading with instinct usually will not raise any hopes... that's what makes our mind burden heavier or lighter...

Some people may realize that there is also a luck factor in trading, where everyone who is lucky will definitely win and get money, while not everyone who does careful analysis and accurate calculations gets lucky,... it could be that everything that is done mathematically is not realized because of the luck factor....

Maybe the next level that needs to be fixed is our expectations of our decisions... hope is what makes us very hurt and can also make us very happy... trading must involve happiness too in order to be able to persist in learning longer.

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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2025, 09:03:42 AM »
trading must involve happiness too in order to be able to persist in learning longer.
Happiness for most people is profit though, so it's really hard to get motivated if that's your only concern. Unless you're a whale and you have a ton of money so you're looking for the thrill of making the correct leverage call. But I do agree that people need a strong personality, discipline, patience, and so on if they want to improve their trading skills. Demo trading might help to train your instinct as long as you try to replicate it real-time with controlled capital/risk scenario.

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Re: Trading by analysis or by instinct?
« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2025, 10:40:01 AM »
trading must involve happiness too in order to be able to persist in learning longer.
Happiness for most people is profit though, so it's really hard to get motivated if that's your only concern. Unless you're a whale and you have a ton of money so you're looking for the thrill of making the correct leverage call. But I do agree that people need a strong personality, discipline, patience, and so on if they want to improve their trading skills. Demo trading might help to train your instinct as long as you try to replicate it real-time with controlled capital/risk scenario.

If you manage risks, even if you are not a whale, you won't get lost on the market easily, most of your depo, no matter the size, would be secured.
It's just a matter of knowledge and discipline that you mentioned.
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