An idea from Findingnemo about new threads

[Faisal2202]

I don't think the admin will change the Karma system, unless it's part of the "big change or update" he said a few days ago. But it is possible that campaign managers, at some point, take into account users' Karma to accept them in campaigns. I think it's a matter of numbers, the more users who request to participate, the more conditions will have to be met, but those are just my assumptions.

So he said recently! Well, if he said then there remain no questions, he won't be bringing such a system soon and I almost had the idea that he won't because the current system is good and needs just a little more time, maybe more traffic, then we might not even need a new system.

You made a good point about a number of users of ALTT, if they increase then managers have to take more factors into account, and number of Karma can be one of them too.

[bitterguy28]

I don't think the admin will change the Karma system, unless it's part of the "big change or update" he said a few days ago. But it is possible that campaign managers, at some point, take into account users' Karma to accept them in campaigns. I think it's a matter of numbers, the more users who request to participate, the more conditions will have to be met, but those are just my assumptions.

yes of course if there are more people wanting to join a particular campaign the manager would have to be a lot pickier especially if there are only limited slots and this is also to control the quality of work each members brings in to the campaign

this is actually already common in the other forum which is why it has become extremely difficult to join campaigns there because only ones with huge merits can join and sometimes even with quality posts not many people are given the appropriate amount of merits which is unfortunate

so i think positive karmas can be a basis but should not be based entirely alone on that

[Freemind]

I don't think the admin will change the Karma system, unless it's part of the "big change or update" he said a few days ago. But it is possible that campaign managers, at some point, take into account users' Karma to accept them in campaigns. I think it's a matter of numbers, the more users who request to participate, the more conditions will have to be met, but those are just my assumptions.

So he said recently! Well, if he said then there remain no questions, he won't be bringing such a system soon and I almost had the idea that he won't because the current system is good and needs just a little more time, maybe more traffic, then we might not even need a new system.

You made a good point about a number of users of ALTT, if they increase then managers have to take more factors into account, and number of Karma can be one of them too.

The admin also recently said there would be a forum "update" or something, but didn't elaborate further, so we'll have to wait.

yes of course if there are more people wanting to join a particular campaign the manager would have to be a lot pickier especially if there are only limited slots and this is also to control the quality of work each members brings in to the campaign

this is actually already common in the other forum which is why it has become extremely difficult to join campaigns there because only ones with huge merits can join and sometimes even with quality posts not many people are given the appropriate amount of merits which is unfortunate

so i think positive karmas can be a basis but should not be based entirely alone on that

Well, the BTT thing would give rise to very long, or almost eternal discussions, but it's something I'm not going to get into, although the truth is that I agree with you, some users I know from there sometimes comment on what you just said.

It's not about making Karma the central pillar of a user's account, but as I've said several times, it's something that could happen. Each manager has their own rules for campaigns.

[dragononcrypto]

I don't think the admin will change the Karma system, unless it's part of the "big change or update" he said a few days ago. But it is possible that campaign managers, at some point, take into account users' Karma to accept them in campaigns. I think it's a matter of numbers, the more users who request to participate, the more conditions will have to be met, but those are just my assumptions.

So he said recently! Well, if he said then there remain no questions, he won't be bringing such a system soon and I almost had the idea that he won't because the current system is good and needs just a little more time, maybe more traffic, then we might not even need a new system.

As an update to this discussion, the senate has passed a proposal (near unamiously) to pass karma restrictions for future ranking. No demotions, but a difficulty increase basically.

Hopefully this can be achieved this month if the implementation isn't too complicated, otherwise it might take longer.

See forum updates here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=325998.0

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I don't think the admin will change the Karma system, unless it's part of the "big change or update" he said a few days ago. But it is possible that campaign managers, at some point, take into account users' Karma to accept them in campaigns. I think it's a matter of numbers, the more users who request to participate, the more conditions will have to be met, but those are just my assumptions.

So he said recently! Well, if he said then there remain no questions, he won't be bringing such a system soon and I almost had the idea that he won't because the current system is good and needs just a little more time, maybe more traffic, then we might not even need a new system.

You made a good point about a number of users of ALTT, if they increase then managers have to take more factors into account, and number of Karma can be one of them too.

Yeah, we definitely will get to that stage where number of karma a user own it have accumulated over a period of time will play a vital roll in them getting accepted into a good paying signature campaign, the forum itself might not be young but I believe we all know that it only started getting noticed not quite long ago, so, what ever suggestions we are making or bringing will definitely take some time before it gets implemented most especially when the suggestion already have a version that works as expected here.

The karma system right now works fine, and if admin said there won't be any changes anytime soon, it's very understandable because mainly considering facts, there are other parts of the forum that need urgent attention much faster and better than the Karma system, guess those are the areas the admin is focusing on at the moment.

[Freemind]

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The karma system right now works fine, and if admin said there won't be any changes anytime soon, it's very understandable because mainly considering facts, there are other parts of the forum that need urgent attention much faster and better than the Karma system, guess those are the areas the admin is focusing on at the moment.

The Karma system won't change, but the way we access new ranks will. The admin is working on it, So, starting this month (the exact day is yet to be determined), certain amounts of Karma will be required to reach new ranks.

More information at this link: Forum updates.

[Hatchy]

The Karma system won't change, but the way we access new ranks will. The admin is working on it, So, starting this month (the exact day is yet to be determined), certain amounts of Karma will be required to reach new ranks.

More information at this link: Forum updates.

I think that will be fine, the karma system doesn't have to change. I didn't know the karma wasn't yet implemented as a requirement to certain rank. I taught some ranks from the higher ups required the karma to be archived.

[dragononcrypto]

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Is this initiate active yet? With new karma requirements for ranks it'll be a great way to incentivize karma earning for those who seek it, and new topics have always been a major problem on this forum since forever. If there's a chance of improving that with karma bonuses, then should definitely be tested if possible. The initiative for d team has been going very well, so more of the same would be good 

[Faisal2202]

The karma system right now works fine, and if admin said there won't be any changes anytime soon, it's very understandable because mainly considering facts, there are other parts of the forum that need urgent attention much faster and better than the Karma system, guess those are the areas the admin is focusing on at the moment.

You are right, karma system seems to be working fine, but it is very not good looking if I said it right, as someone is legendary and have less than 50 karma, This mean, that person made lot of posts but the quality was not good that he/she could receive karma so that is not good.

Therefore if a person is getting ranked they should focus on getting karma too buy creating good posts. I don't want merit system here, I like this one more, because if we have something new, why we all wants to change into the one we are using already, at BTT, I really don't want it, because I can give karma to anyone, I like the most, but on BTT I have to gain merit first.

[Faisal2202]

As an update to this discussion, the senate has passed a proposal (near unamiously) to pass karma restrictions for future ranking. No demotions, but a difficulty increase basically.

Hopefully this can be achieved this month if the implementation isn't too complicated, otherwise it might take longer.

See forum updates here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=325998.0

I was unaware of that thread, thanks for mentioning it, and it looks like I missed many updates too. Well, I read the karma-related post. It was difficult to understand, as I only read your post yet, but maybe after reading the whole thread, I will understand it.

Actually, there were some columns I did not understand. I will give you some time until then. I am happy that this forum is making progress.

[Freemind]

Is this initiate active yet? With new karma requirements for ranks it'll be a great way to incentivize karma earning for those who seek it, and new topics have always been a major problem on this forum since forever. If there's a chance of improving that with karma bonuses, then should definitely be tested if possible. The initiative for d team has been going very well, so more of the same would be good 

Yes, the initiative is still active, but I still need to refine some details. The most important thing is to find those new threads that can be rewarded, as the first post in this thread indicates.

Although most users don't take karma into account, the truth is that when the administrator implements the new system for achieving new ranks, it will be necessary, and all the available options for earning extra karma on the forum (D.Team, staking a Bitcoin address...) will be much more accepted and utilized.

[dragononcrypto]

Is this initiate active yet? With new karma requirements for ranks it'll be a great way to incentivize karma earning for those who seek it, and new topics have always been a major problem on this forum since forever. If there's a chance of improving that with karma bonuses, then should definitely be tested if possible. The initiative for d team has been going very well, so more of the same would be good 

Yes, the initiative is still active, but I still need to refine some details. The most important thing is to find those new threads that can be rewarded, as the first post in this thread indicates.

Although most users don't take karma into account, the truth is that when the administrator implements the new system for achieving new ranks, it will be necessary, and all the available options for earning extra karma on the forum (D.Team, staking a Bitcoin address...) will be much more accepted and utilized.

Will add it to the forum updates topic as was missing this thread. Ideally we'd have an automated system whereby users receive +3 if there are X number of replies to the posts, ie along the lines of your proposal. But I realise implementation would likely be tricky, and there would be a lot of abuse, so it's best done manually.

Also do we have a new topics feed to monitor this, or would it require posting new topics to this thread? Apologies if already been discussed, I've missed a few pages of discussion...

[Freemind]

Will add it to the forum updates topic as was missing this thread. Ideally we'd have an automated system whereby users receive +3 if there are X number of replies to the posts, ie along the lines of your proposal. But I realise implementation would likely be tricky, and there would be a lot of abuse, so it's best done manually.

Also do we have a new topics feed to monitor this, or would it require posting new topics to this thread? Apologies if already been discussed, I've missed a few pages of discussion...

There's no feed, so tracking would have to be done manually, with all the work that entails. But having to do it manually doesn't worry me. The difficult part, as I said, is finding good threads.

I guess that with the implementation of the new rank system, many users will try to earn additional karma with this initiative, in addition to those I already mentioned, so searching for threads might be easier.

Many things will change (especially the posting habits of some users) with the new implementations. I hope this will improve the overall quality of the forum.

[dragononcrypto]

Will add it to the forum updates topic as was missing this thread. Ideally we'd have an automated system whereby users receive +3 if there are X number of replies to the posts, ie along the lines of your proposal. But I realise implementation would likely be tricky, and there would be a lot of abuse, so it's best done manually.

Also do we have a new topics feed to monitor this, or would it require posting new topics to this thread? Apologies if already been discussed, I've missed a few pages of discussion...

There's no feed, so tracking would have to be done manually, with all the work that entails. But having to do it manually doesn't worry me. The difficult part, as I said, is finding good threads.

I guess that with the implementation of the new rank system, many users will try to earn additional karma with this initiative, in addition to those I already mentioned, so searching for threads might be easier.

Many things will change (especially the posting habits of some users) with the new implementations. I hope this will improve the overall quality of the forum.

Understood. In that case maybe a thread similar to btt where users can post their new topics, and other users can post topics that they believe deserve more than +1, as a sort of "New topics that deserve +karma" for example. It'd also help to get users more than +3 if others agree the OP deserves more karma for their contributions. Should probably also have some sort of 1 week or 1 month minimum age restriction, so that older topics that have already likely received +karma won't be included.

Sometimes I wonder if this sort of topic would work though in practice. I assume that most users who post new topics are aware this is where a considerable (likely most) of their karma comes from (often more than +3 per topic for high quality), but on the flipside those who don't create many topics probably don't realise this, so it's good to encourage it nonetheless. At least a topic with a central point of karma giving would be a good start here, as I'd certain participate even if just to add another +1.

[Freemind]

Understood. In that case maybe a thread similar to btt where users can post their new topics, and other users can post topics that they believe deserve more than +1, as a sort of "New topics that deserve +karma" for example. It'd also help to get users more than +3 if others agree the OP deserves more karma for their contributions. Should probably also have some sort of 1 week or 1 month minimum age restriction, so that older topics that have already likely received +karma won't be included.

Sometimes I wonder if this sort of topic would work though in practice. I assume that most users who post new topics are aware this is where a considerable (likely most) of their karma comes from (often more than +3 per topic for high quality), but on the flipside those who don't create many topics probably don't realise this, so it's good to encourage it nonetheless. At least a topic with a central point of karma giving would be a good start here, as I'd certain participate even if just to add another +1.

I think it would be a good idea to create a "central" thread with links to new threads that could be included in this initiative. This would make it much easier for all users to find organized information so they could weigh in on which threads deserve additional Karma.

I have thought that, for example, the thread with the most posts each month could also receive some forum tokens (the admin sent me a batch of tokens a few weeks ago), and it would be interesting to be able to distribute them on things like this. There are still quite a few details left to discuss, but I like how the idea is taking shape.