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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #60 on: February 01, 2025, 07:27:01 AM »
Now is more better, because things have obviously advanced well to where they were now in gambling, we should not only get focused on the bad side, instead we should look around to discover above how gambling have made some required changes in human lives to where we are in it today, there is no doubt that we are going to missed the past, but however, we are still appreciating the present developments we have with gambling this present generation.
Well, change can always happen in different fields and matters interesting many people. What is present today cannot be compared to what was present in the past and the changes which take place have many effects felt by those in the society. There is nothing wrong with seeing things from other perspectives especially when it concerns issues that have reached a certain stage in life. Acknowledging the fact that something is good does not entail erasing or negating what has happened in the past but rather learning to embrace change that is now a reality. That which has advanced today of course offers a different encounter to the many hence that is something that is still vigorously interesting to observe.

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Re: Now and then which is better?
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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2025, 07:53:33 AM »
Cast your mind back to when sports betting was not as rampant as it is now. There was less addiction and people worked hard for their money. But unfortunately sports betting is now the order of the day accross the world. Teenagers who have access to the internet have turned gamblers. I personally feel that the world would have been a better place without gambling. There would have been less regrets and wailing. There  also  would have been more believe in the dignity of labour.
The world was not completely better; people still had problems with addiction as a challenge. Gambling is not the cause of all the problems being faced currently by many individuals. If you have and hold that opinion towards gambling, I say it is formed from prejudice towards it.
Gambling is not the cause of all the problems, I agree but that doesn't mean we should jettison the challenges acosted  by gambling. We have order issues like drug addiction but you cannot deny the evil gambling is doing to youths

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Re: Now and then which is better?
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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2025, 12:45:05 PM »
Sometimes we have to take such steps and try to stay away from something that will cause us a problem. Not because we want to make the relationship between us bad, but there is no other choice if everything can't be discussed.
Actually we also don't want to do something like this, but the circumstances force us so we have to do it.
And besides, I think that these decisions will not only benefit me, but also the public that is there will refrain from gambling if they were not borrowing from some other people.
And the wisest advice I can give is that it is better not to do these related money transactions between friends because in the end, the friendship is not the same anymore.
Yes you are right, we should avoid transactions between friends, because it can be something that will damage the good relationship between us. Even in urgent situations and it is not for gambling, if there is something that can be done other than borrowing, then it is better to do something else first.

I once heard something on social media, if they are hungry then come, I will give them anything to eat, even when I don't give it then it is better to be hungry together, but never borrow money.

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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2025, 07:36:37 PM »
Yes you are right, we should avoid transactions between friends, because it can be something that will damage the good relationship between us. Even in urgent situations and it is not for gambling, if there is something that can be done other than borrowing, then it is better to do something else first.

I once heard something on social media, if they are hungry then come, I will give them anything to eat, even when I don't give it then it is better to be hungry together, but never borrow money.
As the saying goes, A man is known by the company he keeps, I think it is better to not lend money to friends who borrow money from us for gambling, even if they do not remain friends.
Because at some point, it may happen that seeing them repeatedly gambling with this loan, I mean, their addiction may also lead to our addiction, which is very scary. So I think that without those friends, nothing will happen. But we will definitely try to support our friends in the right emergency situation, whether financially or mentally.

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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2025, 02:42:01 PM »
Yes you are right, we should avoid transactions between friends, because it can be something that will damage the good relationship between us. Even in urgent situations and it is not for gambling, if there is something that can be done other than borrowing, then it is better to do something else first.

I once heard something on social media, if they are hungry then come, I will give them anything to eat, even when I don't give it then it is better to be hungry together, but never borrow money.
As the saying goes, A man is known by the company he keeps, I think it is better to not lend money to friends who borrow money from us for gambling, even if they do not remain friends.
Because at some point, it may happen that seeing them repeatedly gambling with this loan, I mean, their addiction may also lead to our addiction, which is very scary. So I think that without those friends, nothing will happen. But we will definitely try to support our friends in the right emergency situation, whether financially or mentally.
Yes, of course we will help them when the situation is very urgent, but for gambling, it is not an emergency situation at all and it can even cause an emergency.

Indirectly, when we do not give them loans, then at that time we are like helping them to avoid gambling, at least they will not gamble until they really have money. We can help in any way, including the way I said.

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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2025, 10:57:04 PM »
Yes, of course we will help them when the situation is very urgent, but for gambling, it is not an emergency situation at all and it can even cause an emergency.

Indirectly, when we do not give them loans, then at that time we are like helping them to avoid gambling, at least they will not gamble until they really have money. We can help in any way, including the way I said.
I agree with you because if we help them in their emergency, then that is truly helping.
But if they ask us to lend them money to gamble and we lend them that money, then we are doing them more harm than good. In this case, it would be helpful if they were not loaned money. Because borrowing and gambling never gets rid of debt, but rather that person gets trapped in the net of more debt.

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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #66 on: February 06, 2025, 01:34:57 PM »
Yes, of course we will help them when the situation is very urgent, but for gambling, it is not an emergency situation at all and it can even cause an emergency.

Indirectly, when we do not give them loans, then at that time we are like helping them to avoid gambling, at least they will not gamble until they really have money. We can help in any way, including the way I said.
I agree with you because if we help them in their emergency, then that is truly helping.
But if they ask us to lend them money to gamble and we lend them that money, then we are doing them more harm than good. In this case, it would be helpful if they were not loaned money. Because borrowing and gambling never gets rid of debt, but rather that person gets trapped in the net of more debt.
Well that's the point, sometimes they think of borrowing money to gamble and if they win they can pay off all their debts, that's a thought that I think doesn't make sense at all, because how can we hope for something that depends so much on luck.

Instead of being able to pay off their debts, they actually have to experience new problems which are likely to increase their debts.

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Re: Now and then which is better?
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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2025, 06:06:17 PM »
Well that's the point, sometimes they think of borrowing money to gamble and if they win they can pay off all their debts, that's a thought that I think doesn't make sense at all, because how can we hope for something that depends so much on luck.

Instead of being able to pay off their debts, they actually have to experience new problems which are likely to increase their debts.
To be honest if it is something where profit doesn't depend on only luck and also based on some skill then I could have no issues with giving money on a loan.
Like my friends want to borrow from me to make an start up then I would have no issues but if they ask for gambling this is likely not going to work from me specifically on this current situation and as well the futures.

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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2025, 06:19:18 PM »
To be honest if it is something where profit doesn't depend on only luck and also based on some skill then I could have no issues with giving money on a loan.
Like my friends want to borrow from me to make an start up then I would have no issues but if they ask for gambling this is likely not going to work from me specifically on this current situation and as well the futures.

Even if your friend wants to borrow money for gambling purposes, they will not tell you that the money will be used for gambling because it is not even reasonable to borrow money for gambling, and being bold enough to say that you want money for gambling demonstrates how irresponsible the individual is.

However, if a friend asks me for money to gamble, I will give him the money as long as he is creditworthy. Who knows, the money he borrowed may help him win. Since nobody can predict when a gambler will win, it would be hard for such a friend to forgive you if the game played but he didn't stake because I didn't borrow him the money.

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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2025, 07:08:12 PM »
However, if a friend asks me for money to gamble, I will give him the money as long as he is creditworthy. Who knows, the money he borrowed may help him win. Since nobody can predict when a gambler will win, it would be hard for such a friend to forgive you if the game played but he didn't stake because I didn't borrow him the money.

What happens is that we see it from a very different point of view, we know that lending money is to help someone who needs it, but sometimes a friendship can be broken because of this problem, because the person who lends the money if he is irresponsible will not pay, and that person will then get angry with the person who lent him because he will see that it is wrong to charge him, I really preferred to risk a friendship with a friend maybe falling in love with her and having something with her, because many times lending money to a friend that friendship can be broken very easily.
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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2025, 08:00:13 PM »
The advancement of technology has made what was not really rampant before to be rampant, that anyone can stay in the comfort of their home to engage in gambling at any time of the day.

Gambling years back and gambling today are not really the same. There are many differences in the sense that we have a high rise in gambling addictions compared to before. Today, we can find underage gambling; years back, you can't find underage near a gambling house.

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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #71 on: February 07, 2025, 10:50:22 PM »
Yes, of course we will help them when the situation is very urgent, but for gambling, it is not an emergency situation at all and it can even cause an emergency.

Indirectly, when we do not give them loans, then at that time we are like helping them to avoid gambling, at least they will not gamble until they really have money. We can help in any way, including the way I said.
I agree with you because if we help them in their emergency, then that is truly helping.
But if they ask us to lend them money to gamble and we lend them that money, then we are doing them more harm than good. In this case, it would be helpful if they were not loaned money. Because borrowing and gambling never gets rid of debt, but rather that person gets trapped in the net of more debt.

How would you know the money they intend borrowing from you will be used for gambling? Some friends are very good when it comes to cooking up stories and appealing to the conscience of their friend. They can even tell you They are in the police just for you to loan them money

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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #72 on: February 08, 2025, 06:04:18 AM »

Unlike now where people sit at home doing nothing but believing that they can win 100m with hundred naira.

That's part of progress and advancement of technology, but the advantage outweighs the negative impact because communication becomes instant and we have access to much information because of the web. All industries innovate and advance, and gambling is one of the industries that benefited a lot from this technology. The past is good but now its better Many benefited from this technology and this is good.

Significantly so, despite the adverse effects of technology, technology no doubt has a lot of negative effects but the positive outcomes of technology outweighs heavily it's negativites. We live in the 21st century and I think it's a privilege to be part of the world at this time of technological advancement

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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #73 on: February 08, 2025, 08:36:35 AM »
How would you know the money they intend borrowing from you will be used for gambling? Some friends are very good when it comes to cooking up stories and appealing to the conscience of their friend. They can even tell you They are in the police just for you to loan them money
You didn't actually say anything wrong because similar incidents have almost happened to me that they took a loan at a time of need and later I found out that they didn't actually borrow money from me for any need, they just gambled with the money and lost that money. However, we mostly know the nature of our friends or people close to us whether they gamble or to what extent they are addicted to gambling. Based on this, I have currently put myself in such a position that I will never lend money to such people.

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Re: Now and then which is better?
« Reply #74 on: February 08, 2025, 02:40:24 PM »
Well that's the point, sometimes they think of borrowing money to gamble and if they win they can pay off all their debts, that's a thought that I think doesn't make sense at all, because how can we hope for something that depends so much on luck.

Instead of being able to pay off their debts, they actually have to experience new problems which are likely to increase their debts.
To be honest if it is something where profit doesn't depend on only luck and also based on some skill then I could have no issues with giving money on a loan.
Like my friends want to borrow from me to make an start up then I would have no issues but if they ask for gambling this is likely not going to work from me specifically on this current situation and as well the futures.
Those are 2 different things, building a business and gambling, I would also do the same thing, that I might consider and give them a loan if the money is used for business capital.

Even I also often lend money to friends who want to start working, I can understand that and indeed after they get their first salary they will immediately pay.

 

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