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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2025, 11:14:48 AM »
Your ideas are valuable but i think it is possible to get rid of scam or to get a scam money from the law of a country. Suppose if you are a victim of scamming by a different country scammer then how can i get the money back? There are many country do not have crypto legal in so the government of that country may not help you.
The best way is to be aware of ourselves and not to pay money for anyone who believes in this crypto online. Moreover, identifying fraudulent emails, phishing, social engineering, and disguise and protect yourself from everything. Of course avoid activities that are at risk of your funds.

Being aware is the best thing out there to be done in order to avoid being scammed.
All the rest comes naturally through it. There is no cheese in traps.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2025, 11:14:48 AM »

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2025, 10:53:13 AM »
Your ideas are valuable but i think it is possible to get rid of scam or to get a scam money from the law of a country. Suppose if you are a victim of scamming by a different country scammer then how can i get the money back? There are many country do not have crypto legal in so the government of that country may not help you.
The best way is to be aware of ourselves and not to pay money for anyone who believes in this crypto online. Moreover, identifying fraudulent emails, phishing, social engineering, and disguise and protect yourself from everything. Of course avoid activities that are at risk of your funds.

Being aware is the best thing out there to be done in order to avoid being scammed.
All the rest comes naturally through it. There is no cheese in traps.

Most people suffer from scamming in crypto because of greed because scammer gives us greed for many things. Scammer usually follows different ways to give you greed and is significant inside it is done through by twitter, facebook, telegram. Usually those who are new to crypto are more stuck in such traps. However, those who stay in crypto long and have some ideas, then there not victims of scamming.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2025, 10:53:13 AM »

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2025, 11:18:59 AM »
Most people suffer from scamming in crypto because of greed because scammer gives us greed for many things. Scammer usually follows different ways to give you greed and is significant inside it is done through by twitter, facebook, telegram. Usually those who are new to crypto are more stuck in such traps. However, those who stay in crypto long and have some ideas, then there not victims of scamming.

Agreed!
There is nothing new to that, because such scams occur daily in any sphere, it's just that the flock of newbies is one of the biggest in the crypto in general. And that's why so many people get into such ordinary traps  >:(

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2025, 03:27:47 PM »
Ok guys so you know all those fake websites that pop around making people send transactions to the addresses in those sites and then lose their money?

I just thought of a way to stop those kind of things.

First you have to go through every registered domain and see which ones resolved from there you need to see which ones match heuristics that determine if it's one of those "fake websites" or phishing sites or not. Probably using an AI tool.

Then you need to get a database of exploits to use against those websites, hack them, and replace the scammers' address with a brand new address from a wallet you make. It works because most scammers buy very vulnerable site templates.

Then you'd form a company, perhaps in the USA, that specifically is for returning people's lost money. Make partnerships with regulators and all the blockchain investigators including ZachXBT so that victims who ask them for help are put in contact with you.

Then you can refund their stolen crypto like that. Perhaps keep a 5% commission in order to continue to finance scammed funds recovery. The scammers are left out of pocket (because they paid for websites), and will go out of business.

So? What do you guys think? Admitting it's hard, but a determined person can create such a setup.

     -       To be frank, what you are saying op is very technical, which on my part I am not yet familiar with, but I will get it in the end for sure because from what I see,
it is good for the crypto community to do that so that they do not fall victim to scammers.

though as for the other way of scammers, I have an idea at least to avoid their activities in some other way around so that they can fall victim in the end.
But anyway thanks op.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2025, 08:12:48 PM »
Like mentioned above it has legal complications depends on where you want to operate, in my country dealing scams with another scam technique is considered as crime too but governments should update their cyber laws that should encourage these kind of acts.

My final question is are we expecting people to have that high moral?
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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2025, 10:36:09 PM »
Ok guys so you know all those fake websites that pop around making people send transactions to the addresses in those sites and then lose their money?

I just thought of a way to stop those kind of things.

First you have to go through every registered domain and see which ones resolved from there you need to see which ones match heuristics that determine if it's one of those "fake websites" or phishing sites or not. Probably using an AI tool.

Then you need to get a database of exploits to use against those websites, hack them, and replace the scammers' address with a brand new address from a wallet you make. It works because most scammers buy very vulnerable site templates.

Then you'd form a company, perhaps in the USA, that specifically is for returning people's lost money. Make partnerships with regulators and all the blockchain investigators including ZachXBT so that victims who ask them for help are put in contact with you.

Then you can refund their stolen crypto like that. Perhaps keep a 5% commission in order to continue to finance scammed funds recovery. The scammers are left out of pocket (because they paid for websites), and will go out of business.

So? What do you guys think? Admitting it's hard, but a determined person can create such a setup.

     -       To be frank, what you are saying op is very technical, which on my part I am not yet familiar with, but I will get it in the end for sure because from what I see,
it is good for the crypto community to do that so that they do not fall victim to scammers.

though as for the other way of scammers, I have an idea at least to avoid their activities in some other way around so that they can fall victim in the end.
But anyway thanks op.
All of us has our unique way of reacting to the progress in the sphere of the crypto world and that is quite natural. In this kind of environment it is always advisable to be very careful not to be entangled in things that are unbeneficial. This established the framework that every action that shall been taken will be of great value provided that it is well planned and executed. To my delight, it can be stated that there are many things in the world that may appear new but that is not to say that they cannot be learned. This shows that the greater the amount of information available to us then the better shall be our decisions when it comes to the future. Something can be learned from all experiences one obtains from first hand information or that which is relayed to one from other sources. Thus, special attention and constant search for information should be focused to keep security in each of the steps taken in the crypto world.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2025, 10:44:57 PM »
Then you need to get a database of exploits to use against those websites, hack them, and replace the scammers' address with a brand new address from a wallet you make. It works because most scammers buy very vulnerable site templates.


This is probably ilegal. And you will become also a criminal in the eyes of the law. Making your situation more complicated. Only government agencies can legally do that to websites.
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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2025, 11:08:45 PM »
Your ideas are valuable but i think it is possible to get rid of scam or to get a scam money from the law of a country. Suppose if you are a victim of scamming by a different country scammer then how can i get the money back? There are many country do not have crypto legal in so the government of that country may not help you.
The best way is to be aware of ourselves and not to pay money for anyone who believes in this crypto online. Moreover, identifying fraudulent emails, phishing, social engineering, and disguise and protect yourself from everything. Of course avoid activities that are at risk of your funds.

Being aware is the best thing out there to be done in order to avoid being scammed.
All the rest comes naturally through it. There is no cheese in traps.
This is the most reasonable thing in my opinion. It will be very difficult for us to stop scams, because of several things:
- It will appear again and again by different scammers
- They may be a very organized unit
- They are usually anonymous and difficult to track
- They are a very professional cyber crimes network, maybe.

At least, when we can't stop the scammers, we must be able to limit ourselves so as not to fall into the scammers' trap. Because even if they act and we are aware and can anticipate the scam, then their efforts will be in vain for us and we can avoid the scam.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2025, 11:37:29 PM »
Your ideas are valuable but i think it is possible to get rid of scam or to get a scam money from the law of a country. Suppose if you are a victim of scamming by a different country scammer then how can i get the money back? There are many country do not have crypto legal in so the government of that country may not help you.
The best way is to be aware of ourselves and not to pay money for anyone who believes in this crypto online. Moreover, identifying fraudulent emails, phishing, social engineering, and disguise and protect yourself from everything. Of course avoid activities that are at risk of your funds.

Being aware is the best thing out there to be done in order to avoid being scammed.
All the rest comes naturally through it. There is no cheese in traps.
This is the most reasonable thing in my opinion. It will be very difficult for us to stop scams, because of several things:
- It will appear again and again by different scammers
- They may be a very organized unit
- They are usually anonymous and difficult to track
- They are a very professional cyber crimes network, maybe.

At least, when we can't stop the scammers, we must be able to limit ourselves so as not to fall into the scammers' trap. Because even if they act and we are aware and can anticipate the scam, then their efforts will be in vain for us and we can avoid the scam.
scammers will always be there and we can't stop them. They have a team and always have new tricks to trap their victims. We must be careful and increase our knowledge and experience so as not to become victims of these scammers.
Especially newbies who lack knowledge and experience, will be easy targets for scammers.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2025, 06:35:53 AM »
- They are a very professional cyber crimes network, maybe.
That'a true. A case where they made a mistake is rare. Even though chain analysis company collects their addresses for the government, it usually takes very long to return the money to the victims. There's a high chance the government will take their money because it comes from "unknown sources" or something similar. It's safer to assume our money is lost if we fall for scams hence why learning how to spot one is so important.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2025, 06:55:52 AM »
Ok guys so you know all those fake websites that pop around making people send transactions to the addresses in those sites and then lose their money?
Phishing can't be a solid link like Bitcointalk.org. you must verify link as solid and verify http. then definitely you can avoid scam and protect yourself from phishing attack.

Phishing attacks are done by making various tempting offers. When someone is greedy and enters those links without verifying them. Then his device, passwords and important documents are taken into their control. so don't get panic for anything first verify validity carefully
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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2025, 07:12:39 AM »
Phishing attacks are done by making various tempting offers. When someone is greedy and enters those links without verifying them. Then his device, passwords and important documents are taken into their control. so don't get panic for anything first verify validity carefully
there doesn't even have to be some crazy offers for someone to click on these links. Sometimes people search for a link that they need and then they are directed to the wrong one. not exactly greed driven because they are just needing to do something but definitely ignorant and foolish to not verify a link especially if they are going to use it for important things

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2025, 12:51:29 PM »
Phishing can't be a solid link like Bitcointalk.org. you must verify link as solid and verify http. then definitely you can avoid scam and protect yourself from phishing attack.

Phishing attacks are done by making various tempting offers. When someone is greedy and enters those links without verifying them. Then his device, passwords and important documents are taken into their control. so don't get panic for anything first verify validity carefully

Yep. I get lots of mail saying that there is debt I need to repay or that my family is in trouble and I need to click on the link or transfer funds / BTC to them, so the main tool to avoid disaster is just.. stay focused and aware.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2025, 11:05:41 PM »
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It will not entirely end scams because scammers will always find a way around it. The bad thing about scams is that for people who are not under guard and not properly informed, if they do not fall victim to a particular scam technique, they are still in danger of falling victim to another method because scammers are consistent in attempts and creativity.
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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2025, 11:19:00 PM »
Then you need to get a database of exploits to use against those websites, hack them, and replace the scammers' address with a brand new address from a wallet you make. It works because most scammers buy very vulnerable site templates.


This is probably ilegal. And you will become also a criminal in the eyes of the law. Making your situation more complicated. Only government agencies can legally do that to websites.
Yes, this is quite complicated, if we are not an authorized institution, then it will be considered illegal too. unless we report it to the ebrewang institution and they finally do it. but that is also limited to certain areas in the country only. and this will be more difficult to do. because this happens globally.

the most important thing is to always educate about the dangers of scams and the possibility of scams around us, as much as possible we always emphasize to ourselves about awareness of scams. and if necessary, we inform the closest people about the dangers of scams that are very rampant.
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