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Re: nearing election
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2025, 04:42:47 PM »
The media in Philippines today is comparing these politicians are like suitors who make promises and despite us getting disappointed every now and then same politicians we elect every election. I guess their strategy is very much effective that people are not realizing they are tricked over and over.
seems like people only vote for whoever they know election these days is a popularity contest people are too lazy to research what every candidate has actually done and instead only votes for those they know of
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a good politician will make sure his work is done and completed within 6 years and will remain beneficial to the country for longer a good politician has projects in which influences of it extend far beyond his time

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Re: nearing election
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2025, 05:06:59 PM »
The media in Philippines today is comparing these politicians are like suitors who make promises and despite us getting disappointed every now and then same politicians we elect every election. I guess their strategy is very much effective that people are not realizing they are tricked over and over.
seems like people only vote for whoever they know election these days is a popularity contest people are too lazy to research what every candidate has actually done and instead only votes for those they know of
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Right now politicians can't plan a project longer than 6 years because once they are not the sitting politician, their projects are going to be de-funded.
a good politician will make sure his work is done and completed within 6 years and will remain beneficial to the country for longer a good politician has projects in which influences of it extend far beyond his time

The only projects they find that will be over in less than 6 years are fixing roads that ain't broken. Sometimes they just create a bridge even when bridge is not really needed.

Most projects like the Ynares covered court. Just a project for a small village consisting of 500 houses. Or adding classrooms to a Pamantasan school which these kind of projects are designed to put their names on top of the building like they own it.

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Re: nearing election
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2025, 05:27:52 PM »
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Re: nearing election
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2025, 11:25:05 PM »
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People has lost the moral right to vote for the right candidate because over time it has become a culture for politicians to bribe their way to public office so it is now a tradition for people to only vote politicians with the biggest bag of money so the basis on which election is won is who spends the highest and this too has contributed towards the citizens not been able to hold our politicians accountable
Yeah, majority of the so called politicians who says they are going to fight corruption are corrupted as well. You hear all allegations from each side of the fence during campaign period but 'hidden' in the shadows are their men doing the dirty work.

Once in a while you get to see rare politicians that's really for the good for their country. Unfortunately, they also encounter many politicians that hinders their job.

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Re: nearing election
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2025, 06:09:59 PM »
I guess their strategy is very much effective that people are not realizing they are tricked over and over.
As I already said in my previous post, those politicians are masters of manipulation and that's why for them it's not hard to manipulate public again and again. The public wants to get their own demands fulfilled and that's why they support those politicians but those politicians just play with emotions of public and do nothing good in most countries.
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Re: nearing election
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2025, 06:29:02 PM »
As I already said in my previous post, those politicians are masters of manipulation and that's why for them it's not hard to manipulate public again and again. The public wants to get their own demands fulfilled and that's why they support those politicians but those politicians just play with emotions of public and do nothing good in most countries.
Well yeah sad reality. If only the masses will learn every single mistake they did during elections there maybe an improvement as time passes by but the problem is they take election as a source of free money and that is where things becomes ugly because that will happen over and over again generations by generations because they normalize it.

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Re: nearing election
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2025, 03:58:19 PM »
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People has lost the moral right to vote for the right candidate because over time it has become a culture for politicians to bribe their way to public office so it is now a tradition for people to only vote politicians with the biggest bag of money so the basis on which election is won is who spends the highest and this too has contributed towards the citizens not been able to hold our politicians accountable
Yeah, hopefully, people will start voting wisely and choose leaders based on what they can actually do, not just who gives out the most money. Change has to start somewhere.


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Re: nearing election
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2025, 10:59:08 AM »
Yeah, hopefully, people will start voting wisely and choose leaders based on what they can actually do, not just who gives out the most money. Change has to start somewhere.
citizens especially from third world countries who are poor enough would only care about short and immediate results if they are promised of money immediately that is who they will vote for and they wouldn’t even care if that person is corrupt or wouldn’t do well in the long run

vote buying has become so popular due to many struggling people

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Re: nearing election
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2025, 08:20:54 PM »
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People has lost the moral right to vote for the right candidate because over time it has become a culture for politicians to bribe their way to public office so it is now a tradition for people to only vote politicians with the biggest bag of money so the basis on which election is won is who spends the highest and this too has contributed towards the citizens not been able to hold our politicians accountable
Yeah, hopefully, people will start voting wisely and choose leaders based on what they can actually do, not just who gives out the most money. Change has to start somewhere.
voting for the right candidate is difficult because there are two ways about it because one in the part of the citizens due to poverty they are compelled to collect bribe and vote for the wrong choice even though they know that the candidate that they are voting for is not the right candidate, secondly in the part of the politicians corruption and bribery in the  electoral process  has made the entire election a fraud  so any one that the political class has projected to win will definitely win because wether you vote for your candidate or not the anointed candidate of the political class will definitely win because of corruption so the citizens has no option of getting a good representation

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Re: nearing election
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2025, 10:46:17 PM »
Just another thing to add to the discussion is that elections could be so polarizing that even long time friends and family members fight among themselves just to defend their chose politicians. Do not follow this path because most of these politicians do not really hate each other on a personal level. After election is over, you see them all smiles at different social gatherings and hugging each other (they could be allies in the next one). It's all business to them at the end of the day. Meanwhile, the friends and family who might have said something nasty to each other in the past makes it more difficult to reconcile.

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Re: nearing election
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2025, 01:40:11 PM »
Just another thing to add to the discussion is that elections could be so polarizing that even long time friends and family members fight among themselves just to defend their chose politicians. Do not follow this path because most of these politicians do not really hate each other on a personal level. After election is over, you see them all smiles at different social gatherings and hugging each other (they could be allies in the next one). It's all business to them at the end of the day. Meanwhile, the friends and family who might have said something nasty to each other in the past makes it more difficult to reconcile.
well even if these politicians are smiling and exchanging pleasantries, they most likely still do not like each other since they have very opposing views and opinions

when family members fight amongst themselves it is because politics affect our lives and when a politician is expressing hate towards a very specific group of people where you are included and your family member is supporting said politician it is almost like your family is supporting hatred towards you as well so politics can also be personal

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Re: nearing election
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2025, 10:40:33 PM »
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People has lost the moral right to vote for the right candidate because over time it has become a culture for politicians to bribe their way to public office so it is now a tradition for people to only vote politicians with the biggest bag of money so the basis on which election is won is who spends the highest and this too has contributed towards the citizens not been able to hold our politicians accountable
Yeah, majority of the so called politicians who says they are going to fight corruption are corrupted as well. You hear all allegations from each side of the fence during campaign period but 'hidden' in the shadows are their men doing the dirty work.

Once in a while you get to see rare politicians that's really for the good for their country. Unfortunately, they also encounter many politicians that hinders their job.
No politician that hasn't entangled himself with corrupt practices. It is mainly during election campaign periods that we learn about the bad deeds of each politician who wants to contest for electoral position. That's when their fellow politicians will prefer to air out the bad political records of their fellow politicians so that they will appear bad to the masses. That only can sabotage the political ambition of the politician from winning the so-called election they verge for.

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Re: nearing election
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2025, 09:41:01 PM »
for countries under democracy, our votes are the most valuable thing for politicians they need you to vote for them really badly so when the time nears for election we see politicians campaigning and doing all kinds of stuff to appeal to the masses and be voted into position

one thing i notice, outside campaigning are subtle things that politicians do in order to look like they have been helpful to the citizens is whenever the election is near they start fixing up roads that don’t need any fixing

it feels like they are doing this just to show that they have been doing or contributing something to the country or to the city when it’s all performative

what behaviors do you notice from politicians when election is near aside from the obvious campaigning?
The art of deception is the practice that most of our politicians today have perfected, especially before election they begin to put up behaviors that seems that they care or the citizens, but it is all a tactic to gain the approval and support of the masses. They are know ot sharing small bags of rice and garri, in some occasion, they share envelopes containing some amount of money. One funny thing about all this is that when they eventually enter into power the citizens will indirectly vommit and out all those money they collected due to persistent inflation and so on
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Re: nearing election
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2025, 06:49:12 AM »
for countries under democracy, our votes are the most valuable thing for politicians they need you to vote for them really badly so when the time nears for election we see politicians campaigning and doing all kinds of stuff to appeal to the masses and be voted into position

one thing i notice, outside campaigning are subtle things that politicians do in order to look like they have been helpful to the citizens is whenever the election is near they start fixing up roads that don’t need any fixing

it feels like they are doing this just to show that they have been doing or contributing something to the country or to the city when it’s all performative

what behaviors do you notice from politicians when election is near aside from the obvious campaigning?

The reason why these politicians succeed especially in Third World Countries is the fact that votes don't count. I can say confidently that the level of manipulation during election is such that a candidate may not campaign but can win election. In fact, campaign is just to create an awareness but really doesn't matter.

If votes can count rulers will do the right thing in order to remain in power. Sadly, these rulers understand that they control everything and so power cannot be taken from them. Even though we say that sovereignty belongs to the people but in reality and happenings, especially in Third world countries sovereignty belongs to the electoral bodies and the judiciary.

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Re: nearing election
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2025, 11:28:07 PM »
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well even if these politicians are smiling and exchanging pleasantries, they most likely still do not like each other since they have very opposing views and opinions
The funny thing is that these politicians who are supposed to have different views can easily jump ship to the same team because they think that will help them more in winning the next election. There's a popular saying that goes there are no permanent friends/enemies in politics, only permanent interest.

 

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