₿ 💯 🛡️ GenesisMix.cx High Profile Private Bitcoin Mixer|Low Fees: Only 0.7% ✅

[KingsDen]

We have now an additional review campaign for GenesisMix.cx

[OPEN] 📝 ⭐ Review GenesisMix.cx Additional | $100 per user | Application thread

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Yea, it's good to be happy and it's good to have a listening manager. Cheers!

[rby]

Longer delay time, better privacy is understandable by me, but I don’t understand why higher fee, better privacy.

[TryNinja]

Longer delay time, better privacy is understandable by me, but I don’t understand why higher fee, better privacy.

Output is much more different than the input -> might be harder to track.

For example, I send 1 BTC from address X and receive 0.999 BTC on address Y, one could say it's my deposit tx minus fees.

If you use a higher fee, automatic tools might think both txs aren't related (since people usually pay as little as possible).

[rby]

Longer delay time, better privacy is understandable by me, but I don’t understand why higher fee, better privacy.

Output is much more different than the input -> might be harder to track.

For example, I send 1 BTC from address X and receive 0.999 BTC on address Y, one could say it's my deposit tx minus fees.

If you use a higher fee, automatic tools might think both txs aren't related (since people usually pay as little as possible).

+1
Nice explanation TryNinja.
In a nutshell, the essence of higher fee is to make one transaction appear like two, as automatic tools could mistake a higher fee for a whole transaction. But the higher fee is not from the bitcoin network side, rather from the mixer fee side. Does it still correspond?

[bitmover]

I was testing the mixer and found some similarities with jambler mixers.

Does genesis use jambler to mix coins?

[examplens]

Well, I can't access genesismix.ch.
Checked on Chrome and Firefox, and after some loading time, I got the message "502 - Bad Gateway . That’s an error."

Anyone else with a similar problem?

I was testing the mixer and found some similarities with jambler mixers.

Does genesis use jambler to mix coins?

If you have access to the genesismix site, check their PGP fingerprint. All Jambler partners use the same:

Code: [Select]

B8A5 CFCA F63F F2D8 384A 6B12 D3B2 8095 6F0E 7CAF

[AB de Royse777]

Well, I can't access genesismix.cx

It's .cx, ftfy :-D

However seems the server issue is still exists. I checked the onion address and it's working good.

I was testing the mixer and found some similarities with jambler mixers.

Does genesis use jambler to mix coins?

They does not have any affiliation with Jambler.

[genesismix.cx]

Earlier we faced a DDoS attack. The site is working now. Sorry for the interruption.

[examplens]

Well, I can't access genesismix.cx

It's .cx, ftfy :-D

I wrote .ch in the post by mistake. Testing was on a real .cx domain.
As far as I can see, there is still a somewhat long loading check, but the site ^clearnet opens at the end.

[hugeblack]

If you use a higher fee, automatic tools might think both txs aren't related (since people usually pay as little as possible).

If the coins could be split into multiple outputs and sent with different time delays, there would be no need for higher fees (or in fact, random fees). In addition, fees have a range, so even if you used a 10% fee, it would be like a 1% or 3% fee, and you could determine that it came from a mixer based on the range of fees.

[NotATether]

Welcome! It is belated on my site but it's better now than never.

Useful information, Please do not ignore:
   🛡️ Our domain extension is .cx, please visit: https://genesismix.cx/

This gives me an idea. Why don't I make a matrix of all the mixers' domains, and then color them green or red to denote whether it's legit or phishing?

It was a hobby project of mine for some time but for crypto sites in general. I reckon I could have it up in about a week with the help of Grok (which by the way is seriously good at coding - highly recommend it if you're a developer).

[TryNinja]

If the coins could be split into multiple outputs and sent with different time delays, there would be no need for higher fees (or in fact, random fees). In addition, fees have a range, so even if you used a 10% fee, it would be like a 1% or 3% fee, and you could determine that it came from a mixer based on the range of fees.

More noise is always better, of course sometimes it's not worth paying 2x more fees for a small 5% increase in privacy and a small chance of having your tx passing as a totally unrelated tx... but some people might still want that if they really don't want to get tracked on chain.

This gives me an idea. Why don't I make a matrix of all the mixers' domains, and then color them green or red to denote whether it's legit or phishing?

I guess you would have some kind of regex to detect matching parts of the site that are from the legit page? i.e if the real GenesisMix.cx has a header with the name "GenesisMix" and a paragraph with the text XXX, your extension will find the similarity and assume it's a phishing page? Because otherwise you would need to constantly track all new fake websites which could be an endless task (i.e genesismixx[at].cx, genessmix[at].cx, genesismiix[at]com, and thousands of variations...).

[examplens]

This gives me an idea. Why don't I make a matrix of all the mixers' domains, and then color them green or red to denote whether it's legit or phishing?

It was a hobby project of mine for some time but for crypto sites in general. I reckon I could have it up in about a week with the help of Grok (which by the way is seriously good at coding - highly recommend it if you're a developer).

Given that there are not too many active, operational mixers, I don't think doing something similar should be a big challenge. Since you have already listed all the mixers on the site, you can create a "tool" where the visitor can enter the domain and validate whether it really belongs to a regular mixer.
So, "green true" if the domain is in your database, while "red false" is for all others.

[NotATether]

Given that there are not too many active, operational mixers, I don't think doing something similar should be a big challenge. Since you have already listed all the mixers on the site, you can create a "tool" where the visitor can enter the domain and validate whether it really belongs to a regular mixer.
So, "green true" if the domain is in your database, while "red false" is for all others.

It its not just mixers that benefit from this my friend, a lot, lot of industries will also benefit from this.

- Exchangers
- Casinos
- Marketplaces
- Wallets
- CEX
- Mining pools (if you do that sort of thing)

the list goes on and on.

I think this will solve one of the major problems in the cryptocurrency industry. For a few users to start, but for this solution to be widespread, promotion and advertisement is required.

I guess you would have some kind of regex to detect matching parts of the site that are from the legit page? i.e if the real GenesisMix.cx has a header with the name "GenesisMix" and a paragraph with the text XXX, your extension will find the similarity and assume it's a phishing page? Because otherwise you would need to constantly track all new fake websites which could be an endless task (i.e genesismixx[at].cx, genessmix[at].cx, genesismiix[at]com, and thousands of variations...).

Nope, no regexes required here. Because we already can obtain the domains of all trusted sites very quickly, so all people have to do is report fake versions of those sites, and after erifying that those domains exist, they're added to the phishing database.

[TryNinja]

For the additional review campaign, can I start my review now that KingsDen has posted his? Or do I wait for Royse's confirmation?

Nope, no regexes required here. Because we already can obtain the domains of all trusted sites very quickly, so all people have to do is report fake versions of those sites, and after erifying that those domains exist, they're added to the phishing database.

Right, but then it's a rat and mouse game. Someone gets a phishing market as fake -> they create yet another domain -> wait until someone reports -> they create another. If you need to wait until someone reports it, chances are that they will only do that *after* they are phished and scammed.