₿ 💯 🛡️ GenesisMix.cx High Profile Private Bitcoin Mixer|Low Fees: Only 0.7% ✅

[NotATether]

Nope, no regexes required here. Because we already can obtain the domains of all trusted sites very quickly, so all people have to do is report fake versions of those sites, and after erifying that those domains exist, they're added to the phishing database.

Right, but then it's a rat and mouse game. Someone gets a phishing market as fake -> they create yet another domain -> wait until someone reports -> they create another. If you need to wait until someone reports it, chances are that they will only do that *after* they are phished and scammed.

That is a good point, and one way to solve it would be to go to those sites that show you a list of recently registered domains, take a screenshot of each site, and doing a visual comparison with the real sites. Identical sites would mean fakes (even if they are simply mirrors - it can be fixed later), but I have no idea how one can visually compare two images with a program.

[examplens]

That is a good point, and one way to solve it would be to go to those sites that show you a list of recently registered domains, take a screenshot of each site, and doing a visual comparison with the real sites. Identical sites would mean fakes (even if they are simply mirrors - it can be fixed later), but I have no idea how one can visually compare two images with a program.

I assume that something like that would have to bypass the firewall protection that all mixers have at a slightly higher level than usual websites. Also, how doable is it with onion sites

[dkbit98]

I see a lot of people complaining about big centralized exchanges freezing their coins, so did anyone check rating from coins coming from GenesisMix?

I didn't test this new mixer myself but I plan to do it soon and see how it is working compared to other more established mixers.

Note for people coming from US that you agree with this terms:

Not a resident or living within the United States of America and its Jurisdiction

And this:

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone

https://genesismix.cx/terms

[NotATether]

I assume that something like that would have to bypass the firewall protection that all mixers have at a slightly higher level than usual websites. Also, how doable is it with onion sites

With onion sites it's less of a problem because most people will not put the legwork required to host a copycat onionsite.

That is not to say that scams to dot happen on onionsites, but your average tor user is 1) much more security-minded and 2) less likely to click on phishing links.

So I won't bother with them. Clearnet sites are a much bigger problem because there's a larger audience to fool.

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With onion sites it's less of a problem because most people will not put the legwork required to host a copycat onionsite.

That is not to say that scams to dot happen on onionsites, but your average tor user is 1) much more security-minded and 2) less likely to click on phishing links.

So I won't bother with them. Clearnet sites are a much bigger problem because there's a larger audience to fool.

You are right about this, although clearnet domains are easier for the human eye to read, and if you pay attention to that, the chances of a phishing scam are small. Unlike onioin addresses, which mostly look like a set of random characters, it is pretty difficult to compare the originality of the link.

[rby]

And this:

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone

https://genesismix.cx/terms

Is this before or after you have sent coin to the mixer. It is not elaborated in the terms of services.
In the case of maltreatment by a mixer, is there a regulatory body that could intercede? I doubt there is…

[Wiwo]

And this:

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone

https://genesismix.cx/terms

Is this before or after you have sent coin to the mixer. It is not elaborated in the terms of services.
In the case of maltreatment by a mixer, is there a regulatory body that could intercede? I doubt there is…

I have not read something like that as mixer services are treated as bad actors in most countries there is no regulatory body that monitors and formulates laws for mixers and this is why a lot of them get banned when there is excessive abuse of the freedom and maltreatment of their communities.

I don't know be in the future we will have a body that will be responsible for such cases.

[DYING_S0UL]

And this:

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone

https://genesismix.cx/terms

Is this before or after you have sent coin to the mixer. It is not elaborated in the terms of services.

AFAIK, if they believe that a user is trying to misuse/abuse the mixer or for any reasons at all (not specified), they can refuse their service to that user. And yes, it's after you send the coins to the mixer. In that case, they will not execute the mixing order nor send your funds to the mixing pool, rather they will  freeze your funds until you contact GenesisMix through their support. And after they collect the necessary informations (I don't know what kind of info), they will send back the funds to your refund address.

[rby]

And this:

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone

https://genesismix.cx/terms

Is this before or after you have sent coin to the mixer. It is not elaborated in the terms of services.

AFAIK, if they believe that a user is trying to misuse/abuse the mixer or for any reasons at all (not specified), they can refuse their service to that user. And yes, it's after you send the coins to the mixer. In that case, they will not execute the mixing order nor send your funds to the mixing pool, rather they will  freeze your funds until you contact GenesisMix through their support. And after they collect the necessary informations (I don't know what kind of info), they will send back the funds to your refund address.

Good explanation and in all you explained, it is just only the decision of the mixer. What happens in a situation the mixer refuses to refund, what then will happen? I guess the person will begin raise scam accusations in online forums and when no help comes, the victim will accept their fate.

[DYING_S0UL]

Good explanation and in all you explained, it is just only the decision of the mixer. What happens in a situation the mixer refuses to refund, what then will happen? I guess the person will begin raise scam accusations in online forums and when no help comes, the victim will accept their fate.

I don't think the mixer would refuse the refunding unless they themselves are also scammers or planning to scam. But that's a topic for another day and I don't think anyone can predict whether someone will scam or not, not until they actually does that. 

Anyway, as I said before, I don't know what kind of information they might ask if situation like thar arises. And IMO, no mixer would freeze funds without any good reasons. You get what I meant right? If strong evidence suggests that the funds were stolen/hacked they might do it (my assumption).

[rby]

Good explanation and in all you explained, it is just only the decision of the mixer. What happens in a situation the mixer refuses to refund, what then will happen? I guess the person will begin raise scam accusations in online forums and when no help comes, the victim will accept their fate.

I don't think the mixer would refuse the refunding unless they themselves are also scammers or planning to scam. But that's a topic for another day and I don't think anyone can predict whether someone will scam or not, not until they actually does that.

Anyway, as I said before, I don't know what kind of information they might ask if situation like thar arises. And IMO, no mixer would freeze funds without any good reasons. You get what I meant right? If strong evidence suggests that the funds were stolen/hacked they might do it (my assumption).

I understand you, the topic I am raising is actually a different one and needs a broader audience rather than on the genesismix thread. All your answers are logical, although based on assumptions. I sincerely appreciate your feedback.

[examplens]

Well, thanks TryNinja for pointing me to where is KingsDen's review. Although I think it would be better if the reviews were in this official ANN thread, since discussion is "allowed" here and does not require the transfer of quotes from another thread. I'll write my comment here, not in the review thread, it won't be moved to the trash from here.

Issues With This Fee Structure

• Unpredictability and variation between big and small mixes: The fee varies too much (0.7% – 4.7%). Users may feel uncomfortable not knowing exactly how much they will pay save they use the calculator.
  
• High Fixed Fee for Small Transactions: The 0.0003 BTC network fee is very high for users who want to mix small amounts (e.g., 0.001 BTC).
• Competitiveness: Most mixers charge between 1% – 3% with lower or dynamic network fees.

Fees Recommendations
To attract more users, Genesismix should consider:

• Reducing the maximum mixing fee (keep it between 0.7% – 2.5% for fairness).
  

Maybe you missed it, but when mixing on Genesismix, and I think it's common with all mixers, you can set the mixing fee yourself. In this particular case, it is between 0.7% and 4.7%. There is a slider



So it is not particularly important if the maximum mixing fee is 4.7% or 2.5%, because the user determines the percentage himself, starting from the minimum 0.7%
It appears that you used the default 2.7% selection set when creating the mix order.


Also, at the end of the order page, there is a very simple calculator that calculates how much Bitcoin the user gets after the mixing process, so there should be no surprises there.

[Freemind]

Does anyone know what happened to this mixer?. The website displays a 502 error and can't be accessed from any device. Neither "normal" browsers nor Tor (without using Onion links) allow access.

If anyone has more information, it would be nice to share it here so we know what's going on.

[examplens]

Does anyone know what happened to this mixer?. The website displays a 502 error and can't be accessed from any device. Neither "normal" browsers nor Tor (without using Onion links) allow access.

If anyone has more information, it would be nice to share it here so we know what's going on.

It works normally on my side, both, clearnet and onion site. It seems there's something wrong on your side.
We are talking about https://genesismix.cx/ web address, right?

[Freemind]

It works normally on my side, both, clearnet and onion site. It seems there's something wrong on your side.
We are talking about https://genesismix.cx/ web address, right?

It's now working fine on Tor and Clearnet, so I assume it was a one-time glitch. Since I tried to access it several times in the same hour, I thought there was some problem.  Yes, it's the same URL.

We already know how mixers are sometimes and the surprises they can throw at us.

Thanks for the confirmation.