How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?

[DYING_S0UL]

Through KYC obviously, duh!

If I say I'm president Donald Trump, would anyone believe me? Would anyone trust me based on my words? Of course not. It's the same with ensuring whether a person is a minor or adult. No one can ensure that in an online platform. You may say you are 18 or above, but there is no way to know that. And that's where KYC comes. A person may lie to register to certain platforms, violate their ToS but at the end of the day, they must the follow their policy when withdrawing their winnings. A policy where KYC is a mandatory thing.

[MUGNIA]

They don't ensure but its the honesty of the users that they trust. If they say they are above 18 when they register then that's it. But if they find out a user is actually below 18 then that user just violated their TOS.

But before they are going to check to find out whether a user has violated their terms, this user has to win big first and will try to withdraw and that's when the casino ask for KYC.

If you only get a small win, usually the casino doesn't care about age limits, but if you get a big win, that's when the casino will find out the customer's age limit, usually underage people use a substitute bank platform to be able to make withdrawals.

[joniboini]

A policy where KYC is a mandatory thing.

You made me recall a "no KYC casino" where one of its ToS is that users have to undergo KYC if they bet past a certain limit. I think it got changed a few times and the owner assured users that for low-volume withdrawal or betting they won't force any KYC, unless absolutely necessary (for things like multi-account abuse, et). It sounds nice at first glance but users have no control and can't verify whether the accusation is justifiable or just a way for them to withhold withdrawal.

[Cryptsafe]

Casino's can never be able to filter or detect under age registered members hence their requirements includes KYC so as to be on the safe side if there is any issues along the lines. We know very well that the government frowns at such and the casino too would take measures to protect their interest when issues of such nature emanates.

[bitbit97]

I think online casinos are not very interested in trying to figure out their clients age, as there is not mechanism they could use to get true information. If they force to pass kyc during registration, they will close their business pretty much soon. Also no one will be surprised and confused to see if windows with «Are you 18? YES/NO buttons» pop-up. Even if a person clicks on NO and page tab closes, he will re-enter and choose YES next time.

In theory, casino could cooperate with banks and get list of card numbers or algorithm of how they are issues. Underaged do get bank cards, and if they try to deposit with them, at that moment they can be «caught». Bank cards have 16 numbers. Maybe one of the numbers might tell that the card was issued for underaged customer. That is just my assumption.

[Kemarit]

Casino's can never be able to filter or detect under age registered members hence their requirements includes KYC so as to be on the safe side if there is any issues along the lines. We know very well that the government frowns at such and the casino too would take measures to protect their interest when issues of such nature emanates.

They can't, the only way to do it is thru verification, like KYC. And they will ask for everything just to verify that the other person is not below the age requirement. So it's really very hard for casinos, it's not that they are not doing their job, but maybe there will be instances that some underage can still play and pass. Casino will really need to do everything to check every gamblers, even if they say that they are above 18 years old. Monitoring is one, they can used even AI to detect specially those who want to bypass verification.

[bisdak40]

I’m curious how online casinos ensure that players are actually over 18 years old. How do they verify this information? For gambling sites with a KYC process, they can easily check this detail, but what about casinos for 18 year olds that offer easy registration and withdrawals? How do they make sure players aren’t minors?
I know that With the rise of streamlined and quick registration processes, maintaining proper age verification can be challenging. Many casinos implement additional measures, such as geolocation tracking or random ID checks, to ensure compliance with age restrictions.

I believe that KYC is the best verification process to ensure that users of gambling platforms are 18 years old and above. However, the downside of KYC is that many users avoid online casinos with this verification process due to the perceived hassle it creates.

[robelneo]

There is no other way but to do KYC, KYC is to know the full details of their clients. If this client is the right people to use their platform, the platform is to blame if they do not ask for it and many of its players are minors.
Its hard to guess the age and the status of its client without asking for KYC, so KYC is the only way.

[Cryptsafe]

Casino's can never be able to filter or detect under age registered members hence their requirements includes KYC so as to be on the safe side if there is any issues along the lines. We know very well that the government frowns at such and the casino too would take measures to protect their interest when issues of such nature emanates.

They can't, the only way to do it is thru verification, like KYC. And they will ask for everything just to verify that the other person is not below the age requirement. So it's really very hard for casinos, it's not that they are not doing their job, but maybe there will be instances that some underage can still play and pass. Casino will really need to do everything to check every gamblers, even if they say that they are above 18 years old. Monitoring is one, they can used even AI to detect specially those who want to bypass verification.

We are still on the same page; we know the government frowns at underage gambling, and the casinos know this and would do anything possible to fish out the underage gamblers from their platform so they do not have issues with the government. At first, they put it out there for gamblers to see the government's age limit for gambling, which is the first and the second is the kyc to make sure they are on the safe side of it all.

[ajiz138]

We are still on the same page; we know the government frowns at underage gambling, and the casinos know this and would do anything possible to fish out the underage gamblers from their platform so they do not have issues with the government. At first, they put it out there for gamblers to see the government's age limit for gambling, which is the first and the second is the kyc to make sure they are on the safe side of it all.

Without mandatory KYC, the underage gambling rule is just a rule on paper, or in other words they do it to avoid problems with the government as you said.

But when they change their internal rules by implementing KYC rules, then it becomes something that will allow underage children to not be able to play. But that also does not guarantee it actually, because we don't know the child's efforts to continue gambling.

[bitterguy28]

But when they change their internal rules by implementing KYC rules, then it becomes something that will allow underage children to not be able to play.

i do not think that there are a lot of casinos that easily change their rules regarding kyc because it will be quite complicated and even that is an understatement

if they did not have kyc before, their clients who used their services benefitting from the non kyc rules would now be forced to do kyc which would not be appreciated

But that also does not guarantee it actually, because we don't know the child's efforts to continue gambling.

that is true especially kids nowadays are the ones who are the most tech savvy and they know so much methods to trick so many websites

[bitbit97]

I think online casinos does not bother about gamblers age at all. That is the internet, everyone are used to giving and receiving false information. There is no use even trying to prevent gambling because how can authorities also check if underaged or an adult has gambled. And if something goes wrong during session or an issue appears, what could underaged gambler do? Try to sue the casino? The case will be lost in 1 minute in court, plus underaged parents will probably get a fine or a warning for bad parenting.

Casinos allow underaged to gamble, because they are not as experienced as adults in gambling, they will lose faster, and even if they win, with their small deposits, withdrawals not going to bankrupt casino. But if they win jackpot, KYC will save casino from paying.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

A reputable casino should from the first place not allow for gamblers underaged to register, so its something i except them to do right at the point of registration by asking for their age and anyone found under the category of being underaged, they should be prevented from gambling, once this is set and applicable for any one under the same category, they have then acted their won part and left for the gambler to be sincere about it and proof same.

[ajiz138]

But when they change their internal rules by implementing KYC rules, then it becomes something that will allow underage children to not be able to play.

i do not think that there are a lot of casinos that easily change their rules regarding kyc because it will be quite complicated and even that is an understatement

if they did not have kyc before, their clients who used their services benefitting from the non kyc rules would now be forced to do kyc which would not be appreciated

I think it can be done, as long as they don't change it right away. They can give a certain amount of time after they take the rule.

I think recently there have been many casinos that have implemented it, for example I mentioned stake which changed their rules at the beginning of this year by requiring it, after previously without KYC users could still make deposits, play and withdraw. However, they also don't just implement it, but they routinely provide information about KYC every day.

[Cryptsafe]

We are still on the same page; we know the government frowns at underage gambling, and the casinos know this and would do anything possible to fish out the underage gamblers from their platform so they do not have issues with the government. At first, they put it out there for gamblers to see the government's age limit for gambling, which is the first and the second is the kyc to make sure they are on the safe side of it all.

Without mandatory KYC, the underage gambling rule is just a rule on paper, or in other words they do it to avoid problems with the government as you said.

But when they change their internal rules by implementing KYC rules, then it becomes something that will allow underage children to not be able to play. But that also does not guarantee it actually, because we don't know the child's efforts to continue gambling.

Normally, every casino wouldn't want to get entangled with the government as it relates to underage gambling because it is against the law, so every necessary step would be put in place to make sure all registered members are thoroughly checked so they do not make any mistake. But even then, they still can not guarantee that all registered members are above the age of 18, but since they have conducted a kyc on each account, it is assumed that all registered members are above the age of 18.