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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2025, 10:12:09 PM »

This is the situation that we find ourselves in the country as Nigerians it's a terrible situation because one thing that I have found out from this country is that the political class doesn't want people to speak up and anyone who dears to talk is  termed as an energy of progress and is someone who wants to put sand in the food that they are eating, the orientation system that our leaders have here is terrible and needs to change because it is not a civilized way  because in sane societies there is room for political leaders who are elected to office by the the citizens to criticizes there leaders constructively and openly telling them their faults and areas where they are not doing well, but in Nigeria that is not the case because after talking you have to be prepared and ready to face the consequences of what your talk is going to bring to you because as far as am concerned there's no freedom of speech in the country
     During the militarian era; the people weren’t allowed to speak up. There was a kind of bondage they kept us in.It makes me wonder if our constitution says we follow a presidential system of government but the government act by the militarian book.Sincerely speaking , there is a cause for the revolution of our government and Nigeria itself.This needs to be put to a halt.

Though I was not yet born in the military era, but the lives of the citizens where of value, unlike now. Then in the military regime, the people are the major agenda as at then. No matter what, feeding was a necessity then. Discipline and moral were made forceful to all citizens, stealing within the military sector was hidden, and anything that is done which is not right, is strictly followed up. Yes, the people never had the right to talk to the military leaders, but the military leaders know what the people need, and made it available. Except maybe to some region of the country. Cause, I do listen to past history of my people.

Now that we say we are in the democratic leadership, where the people/masses have the right to freedom of speech, but after the speech, that is when you'll know that your details can easily be found without delays. Since then, till now, nothing has been done. If not for the people/lawyers who volunteered to join her on the meeting set up by the NYSC administrators, who knows what would have happen to her. Getting there, people who called for meeting were nowhere to be found.
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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2025, 07:19:47 AM »
The most recent one again, happenned at Asaba in a nursing gathering/party when the students there denied Senator Tinubu as their mother which is obviously true and now the school is currently trying to punish the student who published the video - if truly we are free to observe our human right what business would the school have with a video of students saying that a senator isn’t their mother?
Exactly my brother. They know the truth but they refuse to act on it. This is the main problem, our leaders are aware of the challenges that the Nigerians are facing and they know the right steps to take to address these issues but they turn deaf ear.

 It is stated in Nigeria constitution that everyone has freedom of speech, yet this right is being violated, which is not fear. Anyone that try to rises their voice will be punished, that makes it  obvious that government doesn't prioritize this rights. The leaders are using their powers to get what they want. But what can I say?

it is ultimately our fault (the poors), our greediness and selfishness will not allow us to unite and stand up for ourselves and for the growth and development of the country. If people come together to plan something that will benefit them without the approval of the leaders, you will not know the hypocrite that pass or leak the information to the leaders. Only God knows the kind of threat the copper will face now. And trust me, the leaders won't confront the copper directly, instead they will use a poor man's children to threaten her, it's unbelievable that those who are supposed to protect her are the ones doing this. Nigeria is something else.
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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2025, 05:19:07 AM »
The most recent one again, happenned at Asaba in a nursing gathering/party when the students there denied Senator Tinubu as their mother which is obviously true and now the school is currently trying to punish the student who published the video - if truly we are free to observe our human right what business would the school have with a video of students saying that a senator isn’t their mother?
Exactly my brother. They know the truth but they refuse to act on it. This is the main problem, our leaders are aware of the challenges that the Nigerians are facing and they know the right steps to take to address these issues but they turn deaf ear.

 It is stated in Nigeria constitution that everyone has freedom of speech, yet this right is being violated, which is not fear. Anyone that try to rises their voice will be punished, that makes it  obvious that government doesn't prioritize this rights. The leaders are using their powers to get what they want. But what can I say?

it is ultimately our fault (the poors), our greediness and selfishness will not allow us to unite and stand up for ourselves and for the growth and development of the country. If people come together to plan something that will benefit them without the approval of the leaders, you will not know the hypocrite that pass or leak the information to the leaders. Only God knows the kind of threat the copper will face now. And trust me, the leaders won't confront the copper directly, instead they will use a poor man's children to threaten her, it's unbelievable that those who are supposed to protect her are the ones doing this. Nigeria is something else.
What is said about this socio-political scenario presents a strong feeling of disgust considering the leaders who do not care for the population. Whenever people are deprived of their rights or the opportunity to freely express themselves especially on instances of injustice they certainly will feel like outcasts. However, the issue that arises most commonly is that it is challenging to come to a common ground, and fight. People’s hatred has been fueled by powerful elites who use this to their advantage and consolidating the power in their hands and as a result the movement for change and improvement is very hard. This is employment discrimination in that some persons are denied the limelight, this is a form of structural injustice that will only persist if the ice cannot be broken.
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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2025, 01:54:48 PM »
The most recent one again, happenned at Asaba in a nursing gathering/party when the students there denied Senator Tinubu as their mother which is obviously true and now the school is currently trying to punish the student who published the video - if truly we are free to observe our human right what business would the school have with a video of students saying that a senator isn’t their mother?
Exactly my brother. They know the truth but they refuse to act on it. This is the main problem, our leaders are aware of the challenges that the Nigerians are facing and they know the right steps to take to address these issues but they turn deaf ear.

They know the right path to take in solving the issue or improving the living conditions of the citizens of the country but they usually the shortest route which usually involves buying a few thousand bags of rice and this act usually shuts the mouth of majority of those complaining.

It’s actually sad to see that a country that’s supposed to be democratic is now living as if it’s being governed by a dictator. It’s very sad to see.
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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2025, 09:18:13 PM »
Just be careful with how vocal you are with your opinions especially when you are just a common man with no connections. Many times they have shown us that some certain individuals are above the law, while the law sits on the head of others and in some other cases new laws can be made or old laws twisted against an individual. Real democracy is not practiced in Nigeria.

Before the elections, "all animals are equal," but after the elections, " some animals are more equal than others." The words of Napoleon, this is the situation of our dear country today. It is quite unfortunate that there is freedom of speech, but the freedom after the speech is not guaranteed. We just ought to be very careful so we do not suffer in the course of voicing our opinions at the wrong time.
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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2025, 09:38:13 PM »
This video went very viral and was the talk of the town for sometime before everything lied low again. In the video which she claimed the government of this administration is very terrible took offence and had to go in the girl to penalize her. But thanks to some concerned Nigerians in high position from the opposition parties who stood beside the girl. If people will be dealt with like this by speaking out their voice, then we won’t call this a democratically system of government but a dictatorship.

The condition in the country is not appealing to the eye and when you want to speak out, you’ll be shut down of your words and asked to manage through. It is very disheartening but we hope and pray for a better Nigeria. No one seem to impress me for a chance for the president anymore, I just believe we will get the best leader someday that will lead the nation well. We as a country are not suppose to by now still be in the developing countries cadre but a developed country by now.

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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2025, 05:57:02 PM »
Some have make use of the freedom they have and their mouth got them into trouble, because they couldn't control it as at when to talk and when to run for their soul, some things are better done when we are applying wisdom than just behaving as if we are not exposed, this will make us realized as at when to talk or not, how to present our perception and to whom, I've seen a lot of people through which after what they said in public put them into trouble and they are sentenced while some were death at the cause.

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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2025, 06:11:22 PM »
I don't usually follow up these social medias. We all know how our government have silenced so many freedom speakers in the country. Yea we have so many rights as a Nigerian but how many of them have we been able to experience. We can't have a protest without the government killing people, we can't say out our mind without the fear of the unknown. Everything just not as how they are meant to be. We lost our rights when some Nigerians decided to vote the wrong person after been offered a small amount that won't be enough to feed them in a day.

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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2025, 08:43:33 PM »
This video went very viral and was the talk of the town for sometime before everything lied low again. In the video which she claimed the government of this administration is very terrible took offence and had to go in the girl to penalize her. But thanks to some concerned Nigerians in high position from the opposition parties who stood beside the girl. If people will be dealt with like this by speaking out their voice, then we won’t call this a democratically system of government but a dictatorship.

If they really examine the whole thing very well the sudden kick starting of the 77k NYSC was from that video because with the anger a lot of persons felt about it and how they made the video go more viral than the person that send it the first time because the upset of people about it wasn't even because of the money again it was because of how somebody cannot longer expresses themselves on this country, so it became I high time people to socially make it open to the government that law is not against somebody who is speaking their mind about how they are treated.

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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2025, 09:34:38 PM »
I don't usually follow up these social medias. We all know how our government have silenced so many freedom speakers in the country. Yea we have so many rights as a Nigerian but how many of them have we been able to experience. We can't have a protest without the government killing people, we can't say out our mind without the fear of the unknown. Everything just not as how they are meant to be. We lost our rights when some Nigerians decided to vote the wrong person after been offered a small amount that won't be enough to feed them in a day.

This is where the problem lies. The youths are easily brainwashed because of some false and fake promises made to them at their election campaigns, and when they are given weapons to carry out their unsafe assignment, after it all, they don't return the weapons, and the government continues to pay them to carry out their dirty works. If I am not mistaken, almost all leaders of the country have their thugs that they call on when they have some dirty things to do.
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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2025, 07:03:01 PM »
Some have make use of the freedom they have and their mouth got them into trouble, because they couldn't control it as at when to talk and when to run for their soul, some things are better done when we are applying wisdom than just behaving as if we are not exposed, this will make us realized as at when to talk or not, how to present our perception and to whom, I've seen a lot of people through which after what they said in public put them into trouble and they are sentenced while some were death at the cause.

I have come to realise that not everybody knows how to talk; some people are good orators, while some are not. It is high time people take cognisance of this behavior of theirs as to knowing when to talk and talking the right thing, because this has led people to be in trouble, while some have lost their jobs, etc. Sometimes it's not everything one needs to talk and there are some things better kept quiet than saying it because it's just a keg of gunpowder waiting to explode.  I have also been able to imbibe that culture of keeping silent sometimes, and it has been helping me a lot, as not everything is worth saying or talking about. To some point, there are some kinds of conversations that you might find yourself in, but when it starts taking a different tone, just excuse yourself and run away because you just might not know what the outcome of that discussion will be, and it is better you take your heels than to remain there. This is not the talk of being bold and daring, do not get yourself in trouble when you have no idea the intentions of the people you are discussing with.
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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2025, 09:19:03 PM »
This is where the problem lies. The youths are easily brainwashed because of some false and fake promises made to them at their election campaigns, and when they are given weapons to carry out their unsafe assignment, after it all, they don't return the weapons, and the government continues to pay them to carry out their dirty works. If I am not mistaken, almost all leaders of the country have their thugs that they call on when they have some dirty things to do.

That's why problems of insecurity is becoming an endemic to some parts of the country, some people are no longer controllable because of the dangerous thing they possessed, if not for all this things I actually love the way our country is in terms of not tolerating any form of weapons but because of political power they began to make it very relevant to people so that they could win their election without considering that they might not retrieve those weapons from them after the election, so in very aspects of problems in the country politics has a hand in them.

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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2025, 06:48:22 PM »
This is where the problem lies. The youths are easily brainwashed because of some false and fake promises made to them at their election campaigns, and when they are given weapons to carry out their unsafe assignment, after it all, they don't return the weapons, and the government continues to pay them to carry out their dirty works. If I am not mistaken, almost all leaders of the country have their thugs that they call on when they have some dirty things to do.

That's why problems of insecurity is becoming an endemic to some parts of the country, some people are no longer controllable because of the dangerous thing they possessed, if not for all this things I actually love the way our country is in terms of not tolerating any form of weapons but because of political power they began to make it very relevant to people so that they could win their election without considering that they might not retrieve those weapons from them after the election, so in very aspects of problems in the country politics has a hand in them.
It's the work of the leaders to ensure peace and harmony in a country. If the leaders are selfish, they wouldn't want peace so that the voice of the people wouldn't be one. This is the main reason why they empower the foolish youths with ammunitions to cause trouble and oppress them. They know this and that's why they don't care of creating jobs so that they can control the jobless and use them as their tools for power.

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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2025, 11:47:36 PM »
It's the work of the leaders to ensure peace and harmony in a country. If the leaders are selfish, they wouldn't want peace so that the voice of the people wouldn't be one. This is the main reason why they empower the foolish youths with ammunitions to cause trouble and oppress them. They know this and that's why they don't care of creating jobs so that they can control the jobless and use them as their tools for power.

A leader that is hunger driven for power isn’t going to do anything once they get to power and that’s what happening in our country we all knew right from the onset that the president won’t do anything because of the way he did is campaign and if he could take such measures just to see himself in power what else do you think he won’t do to remain in power or silence those who would try to speak against him?

The reason why you still see some activist talk opening about the government and question his motives is because of the public if they were not known or didn’t have influence they won’t have had an opportunity to speak for the second time because they’ll go missing after the first period. Just like what was supposed to happen to that NYSC Corper.
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Re: Freedom of Speech VS Freedom After Speech
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2025, 09:38:35 PM »
This is where the problem lies. The youths are easily brainwashed because of some false and fake promises made to them at their election campaigns, and when they are given weapons to carry out their unsafe assignment, after it all, they don't return the weapons, and the government continues to pay them to carry out their dirty works. If I am not mistaken, almost all leaders of the country have their thugs that they call on when they have some dirty things to do.

That's why problems of insecurity is becoming an endemic to some parts of the country, some people are no longer controllable because of the dangerous thing they possessed, if not for all this things I actually love the way our country is in terms of not tolerating any form of weapons but because of political power they began to make it very relevant to people so that they could win their election without considering that they might not retrieve those weapons from them after the election, so in very aspects of problems in the country politics has a hand in them.
It's the work of the leaders to ensure peace and harmony in a country. If the leaders are selfish, they wouldn't want peace so that the voice of the people wouldn't be one. This is the main reason why they empower the foolish youths with ammunitions to cause trouble and oppress them. They know this and that's why they don't care of creating jobs so that they can control the jobless and use them as their tools for power.
It's true that our leaders are meant to be the initiator of peace and harmony in the nation, but they are simply doing the opposite. I mean no disrespect, but their actions have only attracted restlessness and unrest amongst the citizens. One funny things about this whole saga is that the citizens who are supposed to be hell bent on ensuring that they are united against any kind of political corruption. Some of the citizens are however the supporters of even some of the negative actions of our leaders, actually they don't even perceive the actions of our leaders as negative.
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