Do you still believe in Presales?

[JISAN]

I cant advise for going into presales offers any longer because most of the ones we have done in the past are not pleasing for making any profits, instead they are just taking advantage on us from what we have invested with them, if it were to be as before, when you invest on a presale, you will most likely be profitable in your investment because the market will always be profitable at it has been launched, many other investors will be coming in and the value increases as a result, but some will go opposite direction and fall after they are launched.

Yes, it is obviously not the best idea or decision this days to invest on ICOs or IDO projects this days because it has become a total waste of time and money. The worst you are most are likely to get this days is a dump project after investing, project developers will list token below presale prices and they never continue with further development of the project, insincerety is just their characteristic.
In fact, I lost confidence in presale token, it has turned a punzi scheme in my opinion.

Every legit project wants their project to succeed and their tokens to take to a good state. But due to some of their mistakes and lack of investors, they cannot do anything good. And in this case, those who participate in the pre-sale have to lose. Therefore, to invest, you have to be an expert and you have to know about different types of analysis so that you can find those projects that will definitely succeed. Then in that case, participating in the presale can be a great benefit for you. But it is not for everyone.

[yohananaomi]

I cant advise for going into presales offers any longer because most of the ones we have done in the past are not pleasing for making any profits, instead they are just taking advantage on us from what we have invested with them, if it were to be as before, when you invest on a presale, you will most likely be profitable in your investment because the market will always be profitable at it has been launched, many other investors will be coming in and the value increases as a result, but some will go opposite direction and fall after they are launched.

Yes, it is obviously not the best idea or decision this days to invest on ICOs or IDO projects this days because it has become a total waste of time and money. The worst you are most are likely to get this days is a dump project after investing, project developers will list token below presale prices and they never continue with further development of the project, insincerety is just their characteristic.
In fact, I lost confidence in presale token, it has turned a punzi scheme in my opinion.

Every legit project wants their project to succeed and their tokens to take to a good state. But due to some of their mistakes and lack of investors, they cannot do anything good. And in this case, those who participate in the pre-sale have to lose. Therefore, to invest, you have to be an expert and you have to know about different types of analysis so that you can find those projects that will definitely succeed. Then in that case, participating in the presale can be a great benefit for you. But it is not for everyone.

But now what you say is very difficult to find and, usually, at this time, they always cover whatever happens as closely as possible, so that we sometimes cannot know whether the project is run successfully or not and the transparency is difficult to know.
So it is not surprising that there are currently many projects that run into investors' lack of burden, because many are hesitant to make investments where many eventually only provide bad news and do not pay for sure.

[Blaze]

Every legit project wants their project to succeed and their tokens to take to a good state. But due to some of their mistakes and lack of investors, they cannot do anything good. And in this case, those who participate in the pre-sale have to lose. Therefore, to invest, you have to be an expert and you have to know about different types of analysis so that you can find those projects that will definitely succeed. Then in that case, participating in the presale can be a great benefit for you. But it is not for everyone.

Of course, many of the cryptocurrencies’ development begin with good ideas, but that is where the favourable conditions end. Even minor avoidable errors, inadequate capital or a bad company plan are known to slow down the project and the pre-sale investors end up suffering most. In order to cope with such situation, and even gain some benefits from it, one does have to be a person with highly developed analytical thinking. But, apart from being an expert, I believe that patience and the capacity to handle risk is also extremely essential as well. In some cases, despite the fact that all the parameters seems to be set for the success at the start, problems may occur and lead to failure.

[sampoerna]

Of course, many of the cryptocurrencies’ development begin with good ideas, but that is where the favourable conditions end. Even minor avoidable errors, inadequate capital or a bad company plan are known to slow down the project and the pre-sale investors end up suffering most. In order to cope with such situation, and even gain some benefits from it, one does have to be a person with highly developed analytical thinking. But, apart from being an expert, I believe that patience and the capacity to handle risk is also extremely essential as well. In some cases, despite the fact that all the parameters seems to be set for the success at the start, problems may occur and lead to failure.

true what you said. there are many projects with various good ideas, but the realization will not be that smooth they need funds to develop their projects, especially promotion and not all of them have it that good. promotion is one of the most important things for new projects known to xalon investors, how they make their projects hype and build a large community.

Plus for listing coins on top exchanges, they also need a lot of funds. so they can build greater trust from their investors when listed in top exchanges. and what is also important is how each of them is also in the progress of their development. sometimes there are projects that are too good to be true so that they are quite difficult to realize too.

[albon]

This I would say that it's as a result of many developers overrating and over pricing their token during presales, and most of this developers are more focused on raising money much more than they are interested in building an actual product that will give the token a good value..

Avoid presales, it's not profitable based on my own personal experiences, I've invested in several presales and not has been profitable..

Of course, a project can run away with fraud at any time after the pre sale is complete. It is true that not everyone benefited from the pre sale and many lost a lot of money through it. Actually, the crypto world moves with new trends so we should follow the right trend at the right time. During the ico hype there was a lot of hype in the pre sale market, which is now marked as a scam tag instead of time. So currently the pre sale is a scam and no one is investing here, so there is no need for any research on pre sale. A few days ago, people suffered losses from the pre sale of the drop coin project. This project has no development activities and those who invested in the pre sale scheme were cheated.

[Themepen]

true what you said. there are many projects with various good ideas, but the realization will not be that smooth they need funds to develop their projects, especially promotion and not all of them have it that good. promotion is one of the most important things for new projects known to xalon investors, how they make their projects hype and build a large community.

Plus for listing coins on top exchanges, they also need a lot of funds. so they can build greater trust from their investors when listed in top exchanges. and what is also important is how each of them is also in the progress of their development. sometimes there are projects that are too good to be true so that they are quite difficult to realize too.

That is right if there is good idea so it  is not enough because if want to happen so it can be really tough because they need money. You are especially right about how important it is to have money for promotion. In this busy world of crypto if project and have big community so it is key to getting investors interested.

Also it costs much money because big exchanges ask money to list coin. But remain on those exchanges is really important because it makes investors trust project more. It shows that project has been checked out and that more people are using it. On top of all that it is important to see how project is actually developing.

[BestFx]

To some extent, but though the listing price is not always far from the listed price—but recently I made over a 60% trading SIGN on pre-sale

[Bobcrypto]

So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?

imo, I don't think it's healthy to participate in every presale. Before the market became filled with too many scam projects, the chances of getting your investment back was probably 50/50, but at this point, I don't even think it's upto 30/70. I advice you stick to something else, except you have the money to waste.

I have also considered presale as a complete waste of time and resources, even as I had written before, presales this days has almost turned a pumps and dump scheme. Imagine a presale that was successfully completed on schedule, unfortunately they listed token below the presale price, with the thought that the market forces of the demand/supply rules will enhance the price growth as time progresses but it completely a wishful thinking.
Without marketing, promotions, project developments and upgrades, there is absolutely no way for many of these tokens presale token to grow.

[enwi]

true what you said. there are many projects with various good ideas, but the realization will not be that smooth they need funds to develop their projects, especially promotion and not all of them have it that good. promotion is one of the most important things for new projects known to xalon investors, how they make their projects hype and build a large community.

Plus for listing coins on top exchanges, they also need a lot of funds. so they can build greater trust from their investors when listed in top exchanges. and what is also important is how each of them is also in the progress of their development. sometimes there are projects that are too good to be true so that they are quite difficult to realize too.

That is right if there is good idea so it  is not enough because if want to happen so it can be really tough because they need money. You are especially right about how important it is to have money for promotion. In this busy world of crypto if project and have big community so it is key to getting investors interested.

Also it costs much money because big exchanges ask money to list coin. But remain on those exchanges is really important because it makes investors trust project more. It shows that project has been checked out and that more people are using it. On top of all that it is important to see how project is actually developing.

You are absolutely right stating that money is the main driver that makes projects into popular cryptocurrencies as much as possible. But that does not warrant those with money to automatically be the winners. Some of the biggest project failures that have been witnessed in the past are attributed to the fact that the main issue of honesty in building value was overlooked. The public can always be bought with regards to attention, but trust cannot be bought in the long run. When a project has core team and active comunity that is not being forced, it already have good start in my opinion. It is quite true that acquiring big exchanges helps in the enhancement of the image of the investments, nonetheless, what gross investors look at is the eventual advancement of the product and whether or not the product is being used, if it is possible to derive some benefits there from, or not, and if the team behind the product remains active, even when the market is dull. It has been correctly pointed out that it is easier to start something and make it popular than to sustain it.

[milewilda]

So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?

imo, I don't think it's healthy to participate in every presale. Before the market became filled with too many scam projects, the chances of getting your investment back was probably 50/50, but at this point, I don't even think it's upto 30/70. I advice you stick to something else, except you have the money to waste.

I have also considered presale as a complete waste of time and resources, even as I had written before, presales this days has almost turned a pumps and dump scheme. Imagine a presale that was successfully completed on schedule, unfortunately they listed token below the presale price, with the thought that the market forces of the demand/supply rules will enhance the price growth as time progresses but it completely a wishful thinking.
Without marketing, promotions, project developments and upgrades, there is absolutely no way for many of these tokens presale token to grow.

Remembering pinksale on this one when it comes into presales on which basing up into previous experiences on which it turned out to be a disaster. Gone are the days with those ICO's that
brings out that good multiplier profits into your investment but now this stuff isnt that worthy anymore on which the initial token price is expensive but on the time that it do get listed on exchangers then its price goes to the floor on which leaving out those seed or presale investors losing up their 90% of their invested money. I have seen tons of similar situation on which it is just that sad into its investors and thats why i dont have any plans on trying out to invest into presales yet its never been worth now.

[doc]

So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?

imo, I don't think it's healthy to participate in every presale. Before the market became filled with too many scam projects, the chances of getting your investment back was probably 50/50, but at this point, I don't even think it's upto 30/70. I advice you stick to something else, except you have the money to waste.

I have also considered presale as a complete waste of time and resources, even as I had written before, presales this days has almost turned a pumps and dump scheme. Imagine a presale that was successfully completed on schedule, unfortunately they listed token below the presale price, with the thought that the market forces of the demand/supply rules will enhance the price growth as time progresses but it completely a wishful thinking.
Without marketing, promotions, project developments and upgrades, there is absolutely no way for many of these tokens presale token to grow.

Participating in presale is indeed high risk because we do not know whether the project will succeed or not? And we also do not know whether the demand will increase and many people are interested when it is launched. So do research and make the right analysis so that we do not lose. I myself rarely invest in presale

[Blaze]

Participating in presale is indeed high risk because we do not know whether the project will succeed or not? And we also do not know whether the demand will increase and many people are interested when it is launched. So do research and make the right analysis so that we do not lose. I myself rarely invest in presale

Indeed, it could be acknowledged that presale is one of the most risky kinds of investment since we have no idea how the project is going to evolve after its start. In fact, this risk is manageable so long as a person is well informed. To some extent, presale can actually provide big profits to the people who make a proper and profound research of the chosen projects. If you are squeamish about the risk, you can fully understand that. But by learning from experience alone and even passing that experience on to others, it is possible that one may be able to come up with a safer way of investing and yet not completely eliminates the practise.

[bayu7adi]

Indeed, it could be acknowledged that presale is one of the most risky kinds of investment since we have no idea how the project is going to evolve after its start. In fact, this risk is manageable so long as a person is well informed. To some extent, presale can actually provide big profits to the people who make a proper and profound research of the chosen projects. If you are squeamish about the risk, you can fully understand that. But by learning from experience alone and even passing that experience on to others, it is possible that one may be able to come up with a safer way of investing and yet not completely eliminates the practise.

The risk is commensurate with the potential results obtained... at the presale stage everything seems very scary because we don't know what will happen in the future with the related project... if it becomes something big, then the early investors are the happiest investors... while if there is a setback to the invested project, then the early investors are also the investors who lose the most because of the time and money they sacrifice....

The younger the age of a project, the harder it is to predict the future, and the riskier the project is to invest in.

[yohananaomi]

So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?

imo, I don't think it's healthy to participate in every presale. Before the market became filled with too many scam projects, the chances of getting your investment back was probably 50/50, but at this point, I don't even think it's upto 30/70. I advice you stick to something else, except you have the money to waste.

I have also considered presale as a complete waste of time and resources, even as I had written before, presales this days has almost turned a pumps and dump scheme. Imagine a presale that was successfully completed on schedule, unfortunately they listed token below the presale price, with the thought that the market forces of the demand/supply rules will enhance the price growth as time progresses but it completely a wishful thinking.
Without marketing, promotions, project developments and upgrades, there is absolutely no way for many of these tokens presale token to grow.

Participating in presale is indeed high risk because we do not know whether the project will succeed or not? And we also do not know whether the demand will increase and many people are interested when it is launched. So do research and make the right analysis so that we do not lose. I myself rarely invest in presale

If you analyze it wrong, then participating in the presale you can not know whether the project we are participating in will succeed or not and, as you said that it will indeed experience high risk. But at this time, it must be admitted that all new projects not can succeed because the market situation is not on the side of every new project, therefore if possible avoid every new project that you will participate in, and it is certain that it will not work well.

[bayu7adi]

If you analyze it wrong, then participating in the presale you can not know whether the project we are participating in will succeed or not and, as you said that it will indeed experience high risk. But at this time, it must be admitted that all new projects not can succeed because the market situation is not on the side of every new project, therefore if possible avoid every new project that you will participate in, and it is certain that it will not work well.

Actually, all successful projects, started from "new projects" when they were just launched... and as usual, that the presale period or when the project has just been launched, it will have a high risk... the possibility of success is smaller because we ourselves see that there are so many projects that even fail completely when they finish selling tokens...

The point is, the younger a project is, the greater the risk that must be prepared to face... sometimes even though we have analyzed the project we want to invest in well, it still ends in failure, because there are so many possibilities that occur when a new project is first launched... it is natural for developer planning not to go according to the roadmap, because sometimes we see sudden changes in plans because there are certain obstacles...