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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2025, 09:27:14 PM »
Trump can create hype in the market, but he can't control the market; he is not the only influencer, and the whales, with or without Trump, will continue to make the market better over the years.
Unless its a war or another pandemic, I don't see the price crashing down to $40k; the market has gone a long way to go back to that price.

I'm curious to know more because he is one of the reason why Bitcoin is trading at where it's right now. If he doesn't like Bitcoin the next day, he can say what he likes and Bitcoin can nuke to as low as we think, he did control the stock market by using tarrif war on everyone and it work like they want and after some days again, he made the market comes back.

Similarly, he can do that to Bitcoin but what does he going to gain, Bitcoin is for everyone and not for politicians like them. If he do that, no politician will say anything about Bitcoin and has the support of the Bitcoin community because the trust is gone.
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Re: Trump controls the market
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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2025, 11:39:05 PM »
Trump can create hype in the market, but he can't control the market; he is not the only influencer, and the whales, with or without Trump, will continue to make the market better over the years.
Unless its a war or another pandemic, I don't see the price crashing down to $40k; the market has gone a long way to go back to that price.

I'm curious to know more because he is one of the reason why Bitcoin is trading at where it's right now. If he doesn't like Bitcoin the next day, he can say what he likes and Bitcoin can nuke to as low as we think, he did control the stock market by using tarrif war on everyone and it work like they want and after some days again, he made the market comes back.

Similarly, he can do that to Bitcoin but what does he going to gain, Bitcoin is for everyone and not for politicians like them. If he do that, no politician will say anything about Bitcoin and has the support of the Bitcoin community because the trust is gone.
Famous people like trump indeed what he says will affect the crypto market, but I think it's only temporary because the market will play its role again after that. As we see almost all investors are waiting for what trump will do as US president, the tariff war made the crypto market red. and after being postponed, the crypto market is back green but has not approached the previous ATH.
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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2025, 06:24:49 AM »
Not really, although it seems that Trump considers himself king of the entire world, not just of crypto. He acts as if he is the sole king of this world, and everyone must submit to his control. However, we cannot deny his significant positive impact on crypto in general, through the decisions he has made in favor of crypto.

As for Bitcoin, I don't believe it will ever fall to $40,000. This is unlikely. Although we have seen some declines due to the negative impact on the global economy due to tariffs, it quickly recovered and has remained relatively stable so far. I expect it will rise due to increased confidence in Bitcoin as a safe haven during crises.

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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2025, 06:55:38 AM »
Famous people like trump indeed what he says will affect the crypto market, but I think it's only temporary because the market will play its role again after that. As we see almost all investors are waiting for what trump will do as US president, the tariff war made the crypto market red. and after being postponed, the crypto market is back green but has not approached the previous ATH.
LOL... even at a time like this you still have time to talk about a new ATH, you doubt Trump but you expect ATH, that's a stark contrast... at least the previous ATH had Trump's name contributing there, but until now when Trump really took office as president, other strategic policies have not been realized perfectly, the point is if Trump succeeds in influencing other countries to adopt BTC, then that's where Trump really influences the world and a new ATH will be formed.... seeing the current conditions where Trump is still focused on the tariff war, I assume the crypto world will not reach ATH as long as this Tariff war problem is not over.

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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2025, 11:05:01 AM »
Is it actually safe to say 'Trump is now the king of the market' because with what we have seen so far for days now he has actually shown that he is in charge and anyone trying to go against him will have himself to be blamed, i hope he settles the issue between him and the chinese president because it is affecting the market badly, if it continues, do you think we may see BTC at 40k?
Well, in as much as the price of bitcoin is hard to predict, that is, predicting accurately is as good as impossible, I would still say that we can never again see the price of Bitcoin at $40k no matter how hard and long the trade war with US government and the Chinese government last, the only reason why the price of bitcoin will go down to $40k and even below is if a major bad event occurs which caused everyone to panic sell.

So, if it's about the trade war alone, I see the price of Bitcoin being more stable with minor ups and downs from time to time, there can never be a major fall to $40k levels as a result of trade wars alone.
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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2025, 01:42:14 PM »
if it continues, do you think we may see BTC at 40k?
I do not think bitcoin will get to $40000 for now. If bitcoin will still get to $40000, that will not be because of Trump influence on bitcoin but just the effect of bear market as it would have happened without Trump. And this will make some people that thought bitcoin price is high to see bitcoin price to be cheap and buy.

Yes, you are very correct, you see, some people are just trying to build certain beliefs or image around President Donald Trump which is unnecessary and may be going beyond who he his.
Like you said, if Bitcoin drop below $40k, it is absolutely not because of Donald Trump's influence but can be because  the bear has entered the market. And as usual, there is bull/bear markets, definitely both will always play out at certain points, it is a normal market conditions irrespective of Donald Trump's impact based on the recent tariff war.

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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2025, 09:34:32 PM »
Trump doesn't controls the market and i will say this over and over again, he may choose to control his own coin and its performance just as it has always been, but there is nothing that can serve a conviction to us that all because of the ongoing tariff plan saga and many other economic challenges all accumulates to determine the general crypto markets, there are many other factors affecting the market beyond just what a centralized entity could perform on it, am not saying its not possible to have it manipulated by Trump, but it may not be as effective as we think or consistent each time.

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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2025, 11:45:10 PM »
Is it actually safe to say 'Trump is now the king of the market' because with what we have seen so far for days now he has actually shown that he is in charge and anyone trying to go against him will have himself to be blamed, i hope he settles the issue between him and the chinese president because it is affecting the market badly, if it continues, do you think we may see BTC at 40k?

You went too low in this prediction, I don’t think we are going to see Bitcoin reach that price again. We have passed that and don’t see it going back there again unless we are in the bearish trend already which the market doesn’t seem to look so. The market may badly be performing now and all due to Trump tariffs, this was not what we were expecting but we just have to ride along with it because the market can’t be free and not be affected by this policies. If we see bitcoin below $50K before we see a bull run this year, many will lose hope and settle that the bearish market is already upon us, so $40K is already a price I think we should say Bitcoin is already in a full time bearish trend by then.

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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2025, 12:18:32 PM »
Yes, you are very correct, you see, some people are just trying to build certain beliefs or image around President Donald Trump which is unnecessary and may be going beyond who he his.
Like you said, if Bitcoin drop below $40k, it is absolutely not because of Donald Trump's influence but can be because  the bear has entered the market. And as usual, there is bull/bear markets, definitely both will always play out at certain points, it is a normal market conditions irrespective of Donald Trump's impact based on the recent tariff war.

Trump is there, and he influences the market for sure - but there are so many factors that also affect it, that we cannot say that he can engulf the market for a long time, he is a short-term enigma that can turn the tides, but not for long.

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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2025, 01:35:05 PM »
Is it actually safe to say 'Trump is now the king of the market'

Clown of the market! There, I fixed that for you.

Unless its a war or another pandemic, I don't see the price crashing down to $40k; the market has gone a long way to go back to that price.

The 2008 crisis happened without a war or a pandemic, it was worse than 2019 and 2022.
The 1929 great depression was worse for the US than WW1, and it could have also been more economically destructive if the world had been more interconnected at that time but 2/3 of the worldwas  underdeveloped some didn't feel that much a turn from poverty to more poverty.

An economic war can be worse than real war if we count out nukes.



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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2025, 01:48:19 PM »
Is it actually safe to say 'Trump is now the king of the market' because with what we have seen so far for days now he has actually shown that he is in charge and anyone trying to go against him will have himself to be blamed, i hope he settles the issue between him and the chinese president because it is affecting the market badly, if it continues, do you think we may see BTC at 40k?

You went too low in this prediction, I don’t think we are going to see Bitcoin reach that price again. We have passed that and don’t see it going back there again unless we are in the bearish trend already which the market doesn’t seem to look so. The market may badly be performing now and all due to Trump tariffs, this was not what we were expecting but we just have to ride along with it because the market can’t be free and not be affected by this policies. If we see bitcoin below $50K before we see a bull run this year, many will lose hope and settle that the bearish market is already upon us, so $40K is already a price I think we should say Bitcoin is already in a full time bearish trend by then.

I would say 60k or 50k is the biggest bottom we would see during this run - and clearly, we have the potential to reach a new ATH, if things are going play out correctly one after another (ideally).

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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2025, 04:19:57 PM »
Is it actually safe to say 'Trump is now the king of the market' because with what we have seen so far for days now he has actually shown that he is in charge and anyone trying to go against him will have himself to be blamed, i hope he settles the issue between him and the chinese president because it is affecting the market badly, if it continues, do you think we may see BTC at 40k?


He is a half measure of control.  Ie a great cooler of prices.  Is he good on the upside nope.

Remember the ath for btc was 5 hours before he was sworn in. Since he is in we have gone downhill.

So he can cool things down.

Until we reach 110k he will not have shown he is good for the upside.

I somehow think he may drop us under 60k
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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2025, 07:22:24 PM »
Is it actually safe to say 'Trump is now the king of the market' because with what we have seen so far for days now he has actually shown that he is in charge and anyone trying to go against him will have himself to be blamed, i hope he settles the issue between him and the chinese president because it is affecting the market badly, if it continues, do you think we may see BTC at 40k?


He is a half measure of control.  Ie a great cooler of prices.  Is he good on the upside nope.

Remember the ath for btc was 5 hours before he was sworn in. Since he is in we have gone downhill.

So he can cool things down.

Until we reach 110k he will not have shown he is good for the upside.

I somehow think he may drop us under 60k
It is sad if Bitcoin ends up falling to the $60k price area, when at first Trumpet was said to be a helper for Bitcoin but in the end it became the opposite, the price Dump after Trumpet was inaugurated and there has been no new ATH until now since he was inaugurated.

It only gives fundamentals that look real but will actually only make everything go down including the policy of some crazy import duty increases

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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2025, 08:53:39 PM »
It is sad if Bitcoin ends up falling to the $60k price area, when at first Trumpet was said to be a helper for Bitcoin but in the end it became the opposite, the price Dump after Trumpet was inaugurated and there has been no new ATH until now since he was inaugurated.

It only gives fundamentals that look real but will actually only make everything go down including the policy of some crazy import duty increases

But I don't really understand why we make it looks like Trump is trying to be the main man behind Bitcoin price. Remember that Bitcoin has always been a decentralized assets, no need for all these drama he has been creating, he has even try in my opinion even though he never did all he says he take it till he see no benefits from it on his election again.

What we should anticipate now is the continue adoption from other countries, time will come when Bitcoin will be global that people can't do without it, even now they can't really do without it but they don't just want to admit it.
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Re: Trump controls the market
« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2025, 09:39:36 PM »
Is it actually safe to say 'Trump is now the king of the market' because with what we have seen so far for days now he has actually shown that he is in charge and anyone trying to go against him will have himself to be blamed, i hope he settles the issue between him and the chinese president because it is affecting the market badly, if it continues, do you think we may see BTC at 40k?




I won't refer to him as the king of the market neither will I agree that he is outrightly in charge of the market, but I will rather state that the policies he has come up with has significant effect on bitcoin market trajectory. We saw bitcoin reach peak levels shortly after his re-election. Yes, his trade war is impacting negatively on the market also. His presidential directive to make bitcoin a national reserve asset in the US is currently boosting investors' confidence in the viability of bitcoin thereby driving many further into investing. All of these points to the influence his having over the market but not actually in control of it.

 

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