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Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« on: April 18, 2025, 03:10:00 PM »
Its very clear that speculators are integral part the Bitcoin market makers/takers, and the reason for the up or downward price movements over times. For some times, many schools of thought (analysis)believe that speculators are responsible for the market dumps, while other believe that short term/middle term holders are to blame for Btc dumps. Some analyst also thought that short term holders are panic sellers who could actually be these speculators, unfortunately, this argument continues to linger.
Now, just want to be curious, who do you think are to be blame for btc dumps?

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Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2025, 03:34:41 PM »
If the market truly works with the principles of demands and supplies, taking calculated steps in trading and investing will not be too difficult, except with the influence of economic development or decline, as it won't be difficult to articulate the direction of the market. Speculators yes, have their part to take from the blame on why Bitcoin is on a dump, yet whales also have their own effect on the price dump on Bitcoin as well. With an overview, there will always be speculators as we will always have some big whales, very rich and wealthy people, who when they speak, their influence goes across the world and the stock/crypto market.

There are numerous factors that are all together that causes the dump in the price of Bitcoin.
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2025, 03:47:35 PM »
Now, just want to be curious, who do you think are to be blame for btc dumps?
Which dump again? No dump recently. When bitcoin fall from $100000 to $75000 which occur not long ago? Everybody know that it has something to do with Trump trade war. The tariff he imposed on other countries at the time caused it.

He paused the tariffs for 90 days and the price went up immediately after the news. Bitcoin is still always above $83000 now which as been a strong support since.

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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2025, 05:08:25 PM »
Which dump again? No dump recently. When bitcoin fall from $100000 to $75000 which occur not long ago? Everybody know that it has something to do with Trump trade war. The tariff he imposed on other countries at the time caused it.
He paused the tariffs for 90 days and the price went up immediately after the news. Bitcoin is still always above $83000 now which as been a strong support since.
What I see is trump playing with the crypto market. The number of sudden fluctuations and movement in price ever since trump became president of the United States is just way too much. The market ranges trump does something and then price falls drastically.

The next moment something else happens and then price retraces back up super fast. We seem to be growing in price gradually who knows what will happen next?
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2025, 05:58:11 PM »
Its very clear that speculators are integral part the Bitcoin market makers/takers, and the reason for the up or downward price movements over times. For some times, many schools of thought (analysis)believe that speculators are responsible for the market dumps, while other believe that short term/middle term holders are to blame for Btc dumps. Some analyst also thought that short term holders are panic sellers who could actually be these speculators, unfortunately, this argument continues to linger.
Now, just want to be curious, who do you think are to be blame for btc dumps?

Actually, the majority of dumps happen because of the circulation of different kinds of news, and as of the current time frame, the current dump reason was tariffs, and those whom you are calling short-term holders are becoming prey to FOMO, and they sold their holdings. In this way, it also affects the market holdings. In the Bitcoin, FOMO plays a big role in washing short-term holder portfolios, and in this way, those who are long-term holders get another opportunity to fill their bags again in the dips.

I personally believe that short-term holders have a large amount of money, which means they are also big holders, and their exit from the market due to the circulating news affects the market condition. What do you think? CMIIW!
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2025, 07:14:58 PM »
Just talking about this recent downward price movement, from 109k to 78k
I believe that the biggest influences on the price were the exchanges, especially after the Bybit hack, and the big investors via ETFs

I could see a lot of selling of ETFs, and after Bybit was hacked there was a lot of suspicious movement to liquidate longs and then shorts on the market
But it's hard to prove, since exchanges can't do anything with the information they have on leveraged positions
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2025, 09:02:28 PM »
Its very clear that speculators are integral part the Bitcoin market makers/takers, and the reason for the up or downward price movements over times. For some times, many schools of thought (analysis)believe that speculators are responsible for the market dumps, while other believe that short term/middle term holders are to blame for Btc dumps. Some analyst also thought that short term holders are panic sellers who could actually be these speculators, unfortunately, this argument continues to linger.
Now, just want to be curious, who do you think are to be blame for btc dumps?
I don't think so because everytime I hear massive market movement Big players are involved so maybe some kind of market manipulation rather than just speculators and short term holders. Market is what big players battleground is.

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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2025, 10:21:46 PM »
Its very clear that speculators are integral part the Bitcoin market makers/takers, and the reason for the up or downward price movements over times. For some times, many schools of thought (analysis)believe that speculators are responsible for the market dumps, while other believe that short term/middle term holders are to blame for Btc dumps. Some analyst also thought that short term holders are panic sellers who could actually be these speculators, unfortunately, this argument continues to linger.
Now, just want to be curious, who do you think are to be blame for btc dumps?
Speculators? I thought we were all blaming Trump for the price fall.
Well, a lot has happened recently that has affected Bitcoin's price in one way or the other, ranging from high expectations from Trump, the Bybit hack, tariffs, the forces of demand and supply, and even speculations. We cannot blame only the speculators; a lot has happened during this period.
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2025, 10:41:30 PM »
;D Just blame everyone who buys and sells BTC because everyone speculates on where the market is going. The timing just differs for everyone. Even the guys who seem to be believers/hodlers now will someday sell at a point where they speculate that it's the peak price.

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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2025, 02:31:24 AM »
Its very clear that speculators are integral part the Bitcoin market makers/takers, and the reason for the up or downward price movements over times. For some times, many schools of thought (analysis)believe that speculators are responsible for the market dumps, while other believe that short term/middle term holders are to blame for Btc dumps. Some analyst also thought that short term holders are panic sellers who could actually be these speculators, unfortunately, this argument continues to linger.
Now, just want to be curious, who do you think are to be blame for btc dumps?
Bitcoin is an asset not a company so the supply and demand specifically driven by the holders so yeah speculators are the sole responsibility for price trends but is that wrong in any way?

Or, are we talking about whales here?

Who dump and bump the prices whenever they intend to bag money but it's not even wrong they're taking risk by liquidating their billions.
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2025, 09:46:11 AM »
Its very clear that speculators are integral part the Bitcoin market makers/takers, and the reason for the up or downward price movements over times. For some times, many schools of thought (analysis)believe that speculators are responsible for the market dumps, while other believe that short term/middle term holders are to blame for Btc dumps. Some analyst also thought that short term holders are panic sellers who could actually be these speculators, unfortunately, this argument continues to linger.
Now, just want to be curious, who do you think are to be blame for btc dumps?

I think speculators are just part of dumping the price of cryptocurrency, and then it depends on the speculators if they are influential people, for example Trump is a very influential person and has connections, he can give a cause no matter how to dump the price of bitcoin.

Elon Musk has quite a strong influence to give a rally to the price of a cryptocurrency especially when he posts meme coins even if it's just a name, for sure many communities will sell or buy the price of whatever meme coins it is.
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2025, 10:00:47 AM »
Now, just want to be curious, who do you think are to be blame for btc dumps?
Which dump again? No dump recently. When bitcoin fall from $100000 to $75000 which occur not long ago? Everybody know that it has something to do with Trump trade war. The tariff he imposed on other countries at the time caused it.

He paused the tariffs for 90 days and the price went up immediately after the news. Bitcoin is still always above $83000 now which as been a strong support since.

Not current dumps but who could be responsible for the Btc   past and present dumps. Put your thought on this immediate past to alliened with everyone.
Again, President Trump economic policies does affected the markets and cause Bitcoin dumps, there are other reasons that could cause market dumps at intervals. Speculators, whales, short/term holders, bad news, wars/remor of wars, etc has been some of the reasons why Bitcoin will experience dumps.

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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2025, 10:21:01 AM »
Its very clear that speculators are integral part the Bitcoin market makers/takers, and the reason for the up or downward price movements over times. For some times, many schools of thought (analysis)believe that speculators are responsible for the market dumps, while other believe that short term/middle term holders are to blame for Btc dumps. Some analyst also thought that short term holders are panic sellers who could actually be these speculators, unfortunately, this argument continues to linger.
Now, just want to be curious, who do you think are to be blame for btc dumps?
Big whales are to be blame for BTC dumps because these speculators are small they don't have enough money to pump or dump the BTC but these whales have big impact. Although mostly say, we can't dump and pump BTC price but whales can easily do that.

They don't do that directly but with the help of social media and news all that, they share some bad news and spread the heat and these small speculators buy that and with the whales money combined with these small speculators money market dumps.
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2025, 11:37:19 AM »


Getting into the blame game is not actually something people should NOT focus on...instead we have to concentrate on how to make money when the market is up and when the market is down. Nobody can stop speculators...and I don't think the market will be the same if we delete these people from the scene. Of course, nobody can stop speculators because this is already a free market where all may try to influence the market in the direction one may wish to happen. Maybe we should instead discuss if there is a possibility that speculators can be removed from the market and what would happen if they would be gone.

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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2025, 02:10:17 PM »


Getting into the blame game is not actually something people should NOT focus on...instead we have to concentrate on how to make money when the market is up and when the market is down. Nobody can stop speculators...and I don't think the market will be the same if we delete these people from the scene. Of course, nobody can stop speculators because this is already a free market where all may try to influence the market in the direction one may wish to happen. Maybe we should instead discuss if there is a possibility that speculators can be removed from the market and what would happen if they would be gone.

It will be difficult to remove speculators from the market, a free market just like you said, and speculation is also a free market options for every traders/ investors, others. There are certain things which can never be removed because Btc is a decentralized ecosystem, not controlled by any body and the only means to identify everyone that are involved from its activities is through transactions addresses, unfortunately, some addresses may be dormant for long periods. Again, if everyone can influence the market, then it is obvious that speculation could be some traders/investors trading strategies and is part of crypto business. This is my view.

 

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