For users with a red dot

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Who can see my IP address? Is it the President and Admin?
For me, I can't find my own IP Address here after I made a post.

AFAIK, yes both of them can see your IP address. They have the entire log.
Your IP address is right beside the "Report to moderators" button (only for logged in user, not guest).
Look carefully bud! You see that red marking? Your address should be there.
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I also don't see my IP address, only the L mark, without what is visible to me in other members' posts (Logged link). Maybe it has to do with which browser we use, because it doesn't really make sense for the IP address to be shown if you're using Tor.

I am not using Tor, I am using Samsung browser to access the forum from my phone with a normal internet service provided by my Sim card network, I also can not see my ip address in the area it's said to be, what I see there is only an L mark with a logged link, I clicked the link to see whats there and got a screen informing me that my ip address is only visible to me and the admin of the forum, and not to anyone else, and so also am I not able to view other people's ip addresses too..

One thing I want to actually say is this, I don't think it's right if ip addresses are the only means through which the forum admin and the president judge who is multi accounting and who's not, there is always the possibility that a friend could come around and decide to use your hotspot to access his account on this forum, can this be said also that one is operating multiple account here?

[DYING_S0UL]

One thing I want to actually say is this, I don't think it's right if ip addresses are the only means through which the forum admin and the president judge who is multi accounting and who's not, there is always the possibility that a friend could come around and decide to use your hotspot to access his account on this forum, can this be said also that one is operating multiple account here?

IP address alone cannot be used to identify multiple accounts. I am sure the administrators look at other connections, such as wallet link, posting patterns  or habits etc!

The scenario you mentioned is possible, and now that you've brought it up, I have been cornered with the same question. Because I have been using VPN service to access the forum as far as I can remember, also pretty much everything. So theoretically speaking, what if my address matches with someone else using the same VPN provider? So yeah, it alone cannot determine whether a user is using multi accounts.

[dragononcrypto]

One thing I want to actually say is this, I don't think it's right if ip addresses are the only means through which the forum admin and the president judge who is multi accounting and who's not, there is always the possibility that a friend could come around and decide to use your hotspot to access his account on this forum, can this be said also that one is operating multiple account here?

The scenario you mentioned is possible, and now that you've brought it up, I have been cornered with the same question. Because I have been using VPN service to access the forum as far as I can remember, also pretty much everything. So theoretically speaking, what if my address matches with someone else using the same VPN provider? So yeah, it alone cannot determine whether a user is using multi accounts.

VPN based IP addresses are not considered for exactly this reason. It's easy to check if IP address are proxy, hotspot, static, etc, and frequency of usage also comes into this. It's otherwise been stated for a long-time that if you regularly share a connection with another user then you need to declare this to admin, otherwise you risk being labeled a multi-account.

The reality is most of the IP sharing is multi-accounts, mainly small farms, only a very few cases of users knowing each other IRL etc.

[ABCbits]

VPN based IP addresses are not considered for exactly this reason. It's easy to check if IP address are proxy, hotspot, static, etc, and frequency of usage also comes into this. It's otherwise been stated for a long-time that if you regularly share a connection with another user then you need to declare this to admin, otherwise you risk being labeled a multi-account.

Does it also apply for VPN service that claim it's VPN is undetectable or keep adding new server/IP address for it's customer?

The reality is most of the IP sharing is multi-accounts, mainly small farms, only a very few cases of users knowing each other IRL etc.

And here i thought those people would bother use VPN or proxy, since you could get one for free these days (usually at expense of privacy).

[dragononcrypto]

The reality is most of the IP sharing is multi-accounts, mainly small farms, only a very few cases of users knowing each other IRL etc.

And here i thought those people would bother use VPN or proxy, since you could get one for free these days (usually at expense of privacy).

I meant of those that are caught not using VPN. There could be many more hiding behind one as you'd expect tbh.

[Lucius]

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When I click on my address I get this message below! Try visiting this link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=helpadmin;help=see_member_ip

It's the same message I see when I click on a link in any message - but I don't see any IP address. I don't know how familiar you are with how it works on BTT, but there you can see all your IP addresses for the past 30 days - but there is also something called Limit IP retention which is in some ways a good thing when it comes to privacy, but can be a complicating factor if you lose your account and want to get it back.

[DYING_S0UL]

It's the same message I see when I click on a link in any message - but I don't see any IP address. I don't know how familiar you are with how it works on BTT, but there you can see all your IP addresses for the past 30 days - but there is also something called Limit IP retention which is in some ways a good thing when it comes to privacy, but can be a complicating factor if you lose your account and want to get it back.

Message clearly says a user can see his/hers own IP address but here we are, you and many other can't see their IP address. Lol, there should be some sorts of explanations...anyway, I don't think it's very important for us users! It would only be helpful to the admin and mods when analyzing a users case!

Yes I am familiar with the feature you are referring to. Although i never used it.

[Stompix]

The scenario you mentioned is possible, and now that you've brought it up, I have been cornered with the same question. Because I have been using VPN service to access the forum as far as I can remember, also pretty much everything. So theoretically speaking, what if my address matches with someone else using the same VPN provider? So yeah, it alone cannot determine whether a user is using multi accounts.

What are the chances of someone using the exact same VPN on this forum and having selected the exact same server and using the same IP as you?
Also, I would be far more intrigued by someone that has been using the same VPN based IP in its entire history on a forum or was website as this thing it close to impossible, I will give it a zero chance of not at least once when connecting your favorite server woundn't be 100% full and you would be switched to another one.

Sorry but with like 1 million VPN IPs out there and like what, 1 thousand signature participants here on the forum, two persons using the same - one all the time! - it would be too much of a coincidence.

[dragononcrypto]

The scenario you mentioned is possible, and now that you've brought it up, I have been cornered with the same question. Because I have been using VPN service to access the forum as far as I can remember, also pretty much everything. So theoretically speaking, what if my address matches with someone else using the same VPN provider? So yeah, it alone cannot determine whether a user is using multi accounts.

What are the chances of someone using the exact same VPN on this forum and having selected the exact same server and using the same IP as you?
Also, I would be far more intrigued by someone that has been using the same VPN based IP in its entire history on a forum or was website as this thing it close to impossible, I will give it a zero chance of not at least once when connecting your favorite server woundn't be 100% full and you would be switched to another one.

Sorry but with like 1 million VPN IPs out there and like what, 1 thousand signature participants here on the forum, two persons using the same - one all the time! - it would be too much of a coincidence.

You'd be surprised. A few years ago now there were plenty of users using the most popular brands, and the IP ranges were often overlapped. I don't imagine much has changed since then, whether it be genuine users or more alt farms, as is not easy to tell when many users use the same server location options already. Personally, I used to be in the same range as a handful of users most of the time...

[kai]

Who can see my IP address? Is it the President and Admin?
For me, I can't find my own IP Address here after I made a post.

AFAIK, yes both of them can see your IP address. They have the entire log.
Your IP address is right beside the "Report to moderators" button (only for logged in user, not guest).
Look carefully bud! You see that red marking? Your address should be there.

Note that a user can see only his own IP address. As for other users, it is hidden!

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Do you mean the section like the screenshot below:



Where is the IP Address?
I can't find the IP Address for the post I made. 

This is reference for my post --> https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329838.msg1759273#msg1759273

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Then for the connected wallet, it's not just a bitcoin wallet, but there are several other types of wallets that have been used. Maybe you can see some cases that have been exposed and try to do research too, then you will understand what a connected wallet is like.
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FYI :

In addition, I use the wallet to receive rewards from the Admin for ALTT token prizes:

https://bscscan.com/address/0x1d43459557DFE5E2BbfB266Ad001D406F86B02d5#tokentxns

This is my reference --> https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=327310.msg1719381#msg1719381

According to the statement you mentioned above, I have a question for you:
-If I don't have GAS to send the ALTT token (to be sold), then can I borrow GAS from you?
Or I borrow GAS from the Admin or President to send my ALTT token.

[Stompix]

You'd be surprised. A few years ago now there were plenty of users using the most popular brands, and the IP ranges were often overlapped.

There is a slight difference between using the exact same IP and IPs that overlap randomly

Let's say we have 3 users and they use
Monday
User A: 2.7.232.198
User B:179.184.16.236
User C:198.53.253.236
Tuesday
User A: 179.184.16.236
User B:198.53.253.236
User C:83.174.54.56
Wednesday
User A: 198.53.253.236
User B:158.158.7.213
User C:97.169.204.15
well you get the idea, I would not think of this as highly suspicious, suspicious a bit yes, but not alarming.

Then you have the same users
Monday
User A: 2.7.232.198
User B:2.7.232.198
User C:2.7.232.198
Tuesday
User A: 179.184.16.236
User B:179.184.16.236
User C:179.184.16.236
and so on the entire week.
common, I would bet my house on those accounts being run by the same guy.

I'm using a paid VPN and because some website I use is run by complete idiots so I need to actually use the same servers with close IP *.*.*.x when I log in, you can't imagine how hard is to find them available every time and under 90% usage and those are premium servers, not free.

[Findingnemo]

I don't use VPN, even though I know the significance of privacy, I can't tolerate the loading pages, I expect things to be sleek and snappy, and those free VPN has pros and cons and it is not the tool for one who seeks privacy only to bypass if their ISP is restricting. admin have more access to the data and with the help of some investigation those multi accounts are exposed. I am still curious about the list...

[Lucius]

What are the chances of someone using the exact same VPN on this forum and having selected the exact same server and using the same IP as you?
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I don't know if this is just happening to me (I don't think so), but since I use Tor exclusively on this forum, I sometimes get a message saying that I can't post because someone did it from my IP address within 25 seconds, which really doesn't make sense considering that it's often my first post on the forum that day.

There have been some discussions about it in the past, but I don't know what the final conclusion is. I know that this error occurs from time to time, but it's not something you can't live with.

[KingsDen]

There is a slight difference between using the exact same IP and IPs that overlap randomly

Let's say we have 3 users and they use
Monday
User A: 2.7.232.198
User B:179.184.16.236
User C:198.53.253.236
Tuesday
User A: 179.184.16.236
User B:198.53.253.236
User C:83.174.54.56
Wednesday
User A: 198.53.253.236
User B:158.158.7.213
User C:97.169.204.15
well you get the idea, I would not think of this as highly suspicious, suspicious a bit yes, but not alarming.

Then you have the same users
Monday
User A: 2.7.232.198
User B:2.7.232.198
User C:2.7.232.198
Tuesday
User A: 179.184.16.236
User B:179.184.16.236
User C:179.184.16.236
and so on the entire week.
common, I would bet my house on those accounts being run by the same guy.

+1, An excellent analysis. I believe this is the strategy that the admin uses plus other unmentioned strategies.

For the second example, it is certain that when IP repeats in such a manner, it's definitely one guy using them.

But please don't bet your house 
Some dudes in same apartment do contribute money to have a mega unlimited subscription. I have seen it several times. But an average bitcoiner who cares about privacy and security would avoid such shared IP since you don't know what the other guy is doing in his end.

[NotATether]

That is a good idea, but where will the users declare their accounts? In this thread?

And how will you compel the users to declare their accounts, whether it's by using bans or some other punishment?