Low Quality Posts & LQP Penalties: How to deal with shitposters

[ALT Legendary]

I have seen a lot of post in this forum with meaningless point just for rank up this will be consider it because they are newbie into crypto world.

I did notice the same however I strongly believe the mods are doing their job and they are scanning the forum with their sharp eyes. Rest assure, we need to make sure we are engaging and helping the forum members.

[claudio2]

I have seen a lot of post in this forum with meaningless point just for rank up this will be consider it because they are newbie into crypto world.

I have seen a lot of post in this forum with meaningless point just for rank up this will be consider it because they are newbie into crypto world.

I did notice the same however I strongly believe the mods are doing their job and they are scanning the forum with their sharp eyes. Rest assure, we need to make sure we are engaging and helping the forum members.

If you see these posts, just click on "Report to moderator" link and moderation will analyze them.

[ALT Legendary]

Good thinking. I'd also like to recommend that there be a minimum karma level at some point soon to rank up. Although there is no real benefit to ranking up, it'd be nice to have an incentive to become a Sr member and above, rather than just by posting a lot. Starting with the idea of having Jr Members requiring neutral karma (which is similar to idea of for airdrops/withdrawals requiring 0 karma anyway) followed by Sr and above requiring a small amount of karma. For me, someone isn't a Jr Member if they have negative karma, they are more likely a spammer. This is so that someone Sr has at least contributed something worthwhile (rather than just a lot of posts), while Hero and above needing to contribute "enough" for said rank.

For example:
Jr Member: 0 karma
Sr Member: 1 karma
Hero Member: X karma
Legendary Member: X karma.

I realise this might be a controversial proposal to some, as BTT has the Merit system, but please remember that the main failure of this system is the bar is set so high (100 for full member for example). I'd therefore suggest a very low karma minimum requirement level, as an experiment.
It'd be nice to hear people's thoughts on this issue.

Let's forget about karma for a minute. If I am not wrong it's similar like merit in BTT.

Take my example in count... I will be a Full Member after making two posts (including this). I registered 2 days ago. The forum is lucky that I do not have any intention to misuse it. I am not even spamming at all. But it's the luck and you can not rely on luck.

If someone register two days ago and after two days if he/she become a Full member and the way I am posting on the forum I bet I will become Sr. Member in the next 7 or so days... You think it's ok to feel for those who are with the forum from long time? Someone with bad intention can run a bot and can post 100s of posts every day and can become a Legend in 10 days (I got this information that you need 1000 posts to become Legend). You think it's fair?

What I am suggesting is, bring something like activity count in BTT. I would like your feedback on it if possible then from the admin.

[EmoneyABC]

Good thinking. I'd also like to recommend that there be a minimum karma level at some point soon to rank up. Although there is no real benefit to ranking up, it'd be nice to have an incentive to become a Sr member and above, rather than just by posting a lot. Starting with the idea of having Jr Members requiring neutral karma (which is similar to idea of for airdrops/withdrawals requiring 0 karma anyway) followed by Sr and above requiring a small amount of karma. For me, someone isn't a Jr Member if they have negative karma, they are more likely a spammer. This is so that someone Sr has at least contributed something worthwhile (rather than just a lot of posts), while Hero and above needing to contribute "enough" for said rank.

For example:
Jr Member: 0 karma
Sr Member: 1 karma
Hero Member: X karma
Legendary Member: X karma.

I realise this might be a controversial proposal to some, as BTT has the Merit system, but please remember that the main failure of this system is the bar is set so high (100 for full member for example). I'd therefore suggest a very low karma minimum requirement level, as an experiment.
It'd be nice to hear people's thoughts on this issue.

Let's forget about karma for a minute. If I am not wrong it's similar like merit in BTT.

Take my example in count... I will be a Full Member after making two posts (including this). I registered 2 days ago. The forum is lucky that I do not have any intention to misuse it. I am not even spamming at all. But it's the luck and you can not rely on luck.

If someone register two days ago and after two days if he/she become a Full member and the way I am posting on the forum I bet I will become Sr. Member in the next 7 or so days... You think it's ok to feel for those who are with the forum from long time? Someone with bad intention can run a bot and can post 100s of posts every day and can become a Legend in 10 days (I got this information that you need 1000 posts to become Legend). You think it's fair?

What I am suggesting is, bring something like activity count in BTT. I would like your feedback on it if possible then from the admin.

Admin is aware of this for sure but AltcoinsTalks is still young forum and we need new members. If there will be problem in the future with ranking abuse for sure Admin will implement new requirement like activity or something similar.

[ALT Legendary]

Let's forget about karma for a minute. If I am not wrong it's similar like merit in BTT.

Take my example in count... I will be a Full Member after making two posts (including this). I registered 2 days ago. The forum is lucky that I do not have any intention to misuse it. I am not even spamming at all. But it's the luck and you can not rely on luck.

If someone register two days ago and after two days if he/she become a Full member and the way I am posting on the forum I bet I will become Sr. Member in the next 7 or so days... You think it's ok to feel for those who are with the forum from long time? Someone with bad intention can run a bot and can post 100s of posts every day and can become a Legend in 10 days (I got this information that you need 1000 posts to become Legend). You think it's fair?

What I am suggesting is, bring something like activity count in BTT. I would like your feedback on it if possible then from the admin.

Admin is aware of this for sure but AltcoinsTalks is still young forum and we need new members. If there will be problem in the future with ranking abuse for sure Admin will implement new requirement like activity or something similar.

I kind of agree with not having many members. I hope once we will have enough member then the admin will bring something that stops easy ranking using bot and stuffs. We need more human than robots.

For example, i have came accross many account that reply by 1 or 2 words, just to increase the post count. Even one account was replying "this is great" for practically everything ...

We can not let this pass by, that's why i am introducing the low quality penalty.

If you find such a member, please pm me, or send him a link to this post.

The penalty will be the reduction of posts count, thus loss or reduce in rank.

Anyone posting low quality replies very frequently or bumping threads with duplicated content or quoting of previous text, will suffer from this penalty.
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update:
quick replies and posts with few words are no longer counted.

Can we use Punish button for such posters? i.e: this post. A topic with a word "Why?" Seriously?

I already reported though but not sure If you press the punish button for this post.

[EmoneyABC]

No, not punish for spam only report and if you want show to spammer link to low quality penalty post from Admin. I already asked this question sooner and I get this answer from Admin. Of course you can report using "report" button and put there all you know about this account. That his is a spammer and low quality poster and should be punished with low quality penalty. 

Now I started to think and i'm not so sure about this second part with reporting.

Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that  moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?

[ped123]

Using karma to increase rank, most likely, a premature idea. As for the shitposting, it's necessary that the moderators simply delete such meaningless messages.

I agree with this idea. No one will grow if they continue this kind of attitude by posting foul words or any unnecessary words which are not related to the topic.

[ALT Legendary]

Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that  moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?

It create double punishment, isn't it? Reporting the post is the minor one than pressing the punish button.

[claudio2]

Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that  moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?

You can do either one. When you report a spam or a low quality post, we always check post historic from user. If he/she is a frequent spammer or shitposter we pass the case to Admin.

[EmoneyABC]

Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that  moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?

You can do either one. When you report a spam or a low quality post, we always check post historic from user. If he/she is a frequent spammer or shitposter we pass the case to Admin.

Thanks for this explanation Claudio2. I'll have to wait for report button to appear again to continue my Crusade against spam. This is so annoying to read  two words answers 70% of the time. Low quality penalty should be enforced with full confidence and determination if spammer has been detected.

[admin]

Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that  moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?

You can do either one. When you report a spam or a low quality post, we always check post historic from user. If he/she is a frequent spammer or shitposter we pass the case to Admin.

Thanks for this explanation Claudio2. I'll have to wait for report button to appear again to continue my Crusade against spam. This is so annoying to read  two words answers 70% of the time. Low quality penalty should be enforced with full confidence and determination if spammer has been detected.

don't report the 2 word replies, as they no longer count in post count, and just generate false urgency

[ALT Legendary]

don't report the 2 word replies, as they no longer count in post count, and just generate false urgency

Thanks for the feedback.
How about this...

It create double punishment, isn't it? Reporting the post is the minor one than pressing the punish button.

[EmoneyABC]

Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that  moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?

You can do either one. When you report a spam or a low quality post, we always check post historic from user. If he/she is a frequent spammer or shitposter we pass the case to Admin.

Thanks for this explanation Claudio2. I'll have to wait for report button to appear again to continue my Crusade against spam. This is so annoying to read  two words answers 70% of the time. Low quality penalty should be enforced with full confidence and determination if spammer has been detected.

don't report the 2 word replies, as they no longer count in post count, and just generate false urgency

What will happen with all this spammy two words posts? If we don't report them there is a big chance that they won't be deleted because moderators don't find them.

[admin]

Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that  moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?

You can do either one. When you report a spam or a low quality post, we always check post historic from user. If he/she is a frequent spammer or shitposter we pass the case to Admin.

Thanks for this explanation Claudio2. I'll have to wait for report button to appear again to continue my Crusade against spam. This is so annoying to read  two words answers 70% of the time. Low quality penalty should be enforced with full confidence and determination if spammer has been detected.

don't report the 2 word replies, as they no longer count in post count, and just generate false urgency

What will happen with all this spammy two words posts? If we don't report them there is a big chance that they won't be deleted because moderators don't find them.

time is the most valuable thing,
i do not want to waste the time of moderators just to hunt down comments with little value.
1- it is unfriendly
2- it's a waste of time
3- it takes time from more important tasks

[altcoingamer]

I think you will have to gait the rank up system at some point and the built-in karma system is a great idea, just don't cap it too quickly or make the cliff too steep to climb.  Maybe 1/4 as tough as bct by the end of 2018, and maybe half as tough by the end of 2019.. or maybe even less than that.