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RUSSIA and the west
« on: October 09, 2018, 07:30:42 AM »
The English and some few European countries have accused Russia of poisoning an ex agent of Russia. Tension has built between Russia and England with England set to impose sanctions on Russia. Do you think England can impose sanctions on Russia and will go unaffected?

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Re: RUSSIA and the west
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2019, 08:04:28 PM »
The United Kingdom is one of the few countries that has quite toughly responded to the unraveled Russian aggression on the world stage and really imposed a number of significant sanctions against Russia. On the one hand, Western Europe introduces its sanctions against Russia, on the other hand, it tries to flirt with it and therefore they are not as effective as they expected when they were adopted.
In fact, by his actions, the Putin regime put the world on the brink of a third world war. Even if this does not happen, such a policy for Russia is completely dead-end and should lead to a drop in its overall potential and a decrease in its influence on the world stage.

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Re: RUSSIA and the west
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2019, 10:52:03 AM »
England nevertheless introduced its sanctions against Russia because of the poisoning of her father and daughter Skripale by the special services of Russia. In addition, after a while she even strengthened them because of Russia's non-recognition of her guilt. In addition, international sanctions are periodically imposed on Russia due to the incessant aggression against Ukraine. Russia itself is driving itself to a dead end and is moving towards international isolation.

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Re: RUSSIA and the west
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2019, 07:19:10 PM »
England nevertheless introduced its sanctions against Russia because of the poisoning of her father and daughter Skripale by the special services of Russia. In addition, after a while she even strengthened them because of Russia's non-recognition of her guilt. In addition, international sanctions are periodically imposed on Russia due to the incessant aggression against Ukraine. Russia itself is driving itself to a dead end and is moving towards international isolation.
Apparently for Europe there are other values, not human values, because I do not see any real sanctions against Russia.  You see what the reaction of the international community after the mh17 Civilian was shot down?  And now look at how the heads of state reacted to this, who were supposed to impose stronger sanctions.

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Re: RUSSIA and the west
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2019, 07:16:22 PM »
England nevertheless introduced its sanctions against Russia because of the poisoning of her father and daughter Skripale by the special services of Russia. In addition, after a while she even strengthened them because of Russia's non-recognition of her guilt. In addition, international sanctions are periodically imposed on Russia due to the incessant aggression against Ukraine. Russia itself is driving itself to a dead end and is moving towards international isolation.
Apparently for Europe there are other values, not human values, because I do not see any real sanctions against Russia.  You see what the reaction of the international community after the mh17 Civilian was shot down?  And now look at how the heads of state reacted to this, who were supposed to impose stronger sanctions.
I agree that Europe should have responded more severely to Russia's illegal actions in the international arena, including on a civilian plane shot down by Russian military from Ukraine. Now the Netherlands is conducting an additional investigation with regard to Ukraine why it did not then close its skies over its territory. For the invading Russian military, whose task was to destabilize the situation in Ukraine, it would not matter whether the Ukrainian authorities closed the sky at that time or not. In addition, Europe, even after this, for a long time did not recognize the invasion of Russian armed forces on the territory of Ukraine.

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Re: RUSSIA and the west
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2020, 10:05:16 PM »
England, as promised, quickly and decisively imposed sanctions against Russia in connection with this incident. Moreover, in connection with an improper response to them from Russia, they have repeatedly expanded.

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Re: RUSSIA and the west
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2020, 08:03:17 PM »
Now, it seems, the same  Novichok, which is a chemical warfare agent, which stands alongside such chemical agents of the previous two world wars as sarin and soman, recently poisoned the leader of the opposition Navalny. Putin seems to have neither intelligence nor imagination. Now, for this, Europe is going to impose sanctions against Russia.
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Re: RUSSIA and the west
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2020, 07:17:25 PM »
England, as promised, quickly and decisively imposed sanctions against Russia in connection with this incident. Moreover, in connection with an improper response to them from Russia, they have repeatedly expanded.
We have to appreciate what a country has done to quickly react to all these incidents, but in the end everything returns to the country's own politics, because after all politics is difficult to predict because the principle of interest takes precedence. we will see the continuation in the future hopefully consistent.
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Re: RUSSIA and the west
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2020, 07:15:48 AM »
First of all, I specify that I am neither English nor Russian. Throughout history, these two great states have colonized many countries. because they are great states and they have a right to do anything. Even if I come to this subject, I cannot say this is guilty, this is not guilty This war of giants will necessarily kill intelligence and agents, secret wars, intelligence wars will continue. Because the most important thing today is access to information, which is even more important than money.

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Re: RUSSIA and the west
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2020, 11:11:33 AM »
First of all, I specify that I am neither English nor Russian. Throughout history, these two great states have colonized many countries. because they are great states and they have a right to do anything. Even if I come to this subject, I cannot say this is guilty, this is not guilty This war of giants will necessarily kill intelligence and agents, secret wars, intelligence wars will continue. Because the most important thing today is access to information, which is even more important than money.


It must be admitted that the two countries are indeed very strong in a very adequate and recognized weaponry. but it is true that you said the role of agent and intelligence is also very much needed, maybe until now. although the roles are much different, now it is more about trade and economic wars. so that the need for access to information is very much a benchmark.
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Re: RUSSIA and the west
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2022, 08:05:26 PM »
The English and some few European countries have accused Russia of poisoning an ex agent of Russia. Tension has built between Russia and England with England set to impose sanctions on Russia. Do you think England can impose sanctions on Russia and will go unaffected?
In connection with Russia's military aggression against Ukraine, England has now imposed various economic sanctions on Russia, and is also actively helping Ukraine with the supply of various weapons. The Russian economy is weakening very quickly. England has nothing to fear, since the entire civilized world has united against the aggressor country, and about 40 states provide military assistance to Ukraine.

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Re: RUSSIA and the west
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2024, 10:49:43 PM »
“Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky and British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak signed a bilateral security agreement on Friday, January 12, 2024.

The document entitled “Agreement on Security Cooperation between Ukraine and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland” was signed by the leaders of the two countries after negotiations at the Mariinsky Palace in Kyiv.

This agreement was the first among security treaties to implement the agreements agreed upon during the Vilnius NATO summit between Ukraine, members of the Group of Seven and the states that joined them.

The UK's obligations under this document will remain in force until Ukraine joins NATO, President Vladimir Zelensky said after signing."

This is a great step to revive the international security system. As you know, after the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine was the third country in terms of nuclear weapons, and voluntarily renounced its possession in exchange for an international treaty ensuring its security and integrity, which was called the “Budapest Memorandum.” It was signed by four countries: Ukraine, Russia, Great Britain and the USA. What happened in 2014 - you all know very well - one of the signatories grossly, and not for the first time, violated its international obligations. In the end, it turned out that this document turned out to be a simple piece of paper that did not provide anything... And after 2022, the world realized that a new concept and systems of counterbalances and deterrence were needed. This is what we are seeing now!

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Re: RUSSIA and the west
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2024, 10:22:19 PM »
The English and some few European countries have accused Russia of poisoning an ex agent of Russia. Tension has built between Russia and England with England set to impose sanctions on Russia. Do you think England can impose sanctions on Russia and will go unaffected?
All these are allegations that can not be substantiated by the hater's of Russia all what is happening is interest between Russia and the united kingdom so one needs to be careful when analyzing these kind of matters as the two countries involved here are world super powers so there's little that they can do to each other as the two countries here have there supporters all over the world. There's no sanctions today that you will give to Russia that will have significant effect on the country because countries like Russia are almost self sufficient and They  don't really depends on foreign import to survive. Russia is one nation that is on the part of claiming the world power so all these going up and down accusing each other is geared towards the silent war going on between them

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Re: RUSSIA and the west
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2024, 07:05:52 PM »

How many sanctions did the west placed on Russia that will affect it's economy?

They can't stop Russia from rising up because they have resources to be economic power due to their fuel supply. And they have BRICS that the West can't isolate anymore. It's not possible to make unlike before.

But what does England have that Russia would need?

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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2024, 07:47:21 PM »
It is quite funny to hear about “self-sufficiency” of Russia, if you are interested in facts instead of reading propaganda :)
After the sanctions imposed after Russia's full-scale terrorist aggression against Ukraine, we have easily verifiable facts:
1. The “Second Army of the World” - not only failed to fulfill its tasks, but also lost part of the territory of Russia (Kursk People's Republic).
2. The “most powerful economy” and the military-industrial complex of Russia is unable to provide its terrorist army, neither quantitatively nor technologically - begging from rogue countries like Iran (UAVs, missiles, etc.), North Korea (shells, mines, manpower), ....
3. the myth of “unparalleled armaments” burst like a soap bubble - C300/C400, Armata tank, Su-57 - all these proved incapable of countering Western weapons of the 1970s.
4. Population decline has reached previously unprecedented levels, causing huge problems in the labor market. The demographic problem became almost the number 1 problem.
5. “War economy” destroys the financial system and leads to mass impoverishment of people. Here I will pay special attention - study what “war economy” is and why the GDP of “war economy” is a “hollow sound”
6. Ministry of Economy raises the interest rate “to the sky”.
7.  Gazprom is on the verge of bankruptcy, and for the second year is claiming previously unseen losses....
8.  According to the results of the first half of 2024, 4363 legal entities were recognized bankrupt in the Russian Federation. This is 40% more than in the same period of 2023.
9.   Most key indicators of the economy - classified and no longer published in open sources.
10. “High-tech” Russian companies, left without Western components and technologies, are trying by all unthinkable means to import at least some equipment into the country, since Russia itself does not produce even 1% of the necessary high-tech elements. For example, Skolkovo (the “flagship of technology”) filed a bankruptcy suit in the Arbitration Court of Moscow. The pathetic parody of processors “Baikal” did not pass the state commission, and most (even state companies) refused to realize anything significant on it.....
You can go on listing “successes of the Russian economy” for a long time :)
And all this as a consequence of the attack on small Ukraine - a small (compared to Russia) country, without nuclear weapons, a huge army, and “the strongest economy”, without 40% of the world's natural resources.

And as a result, even yesterday the country that had potential and importance on the world stage is today a criminal country, a pariah country, and.... a raw material, submissive, appendage of China and India, actually giving them oil for free :)
For general education - the louder the propaganda screams that “everything is fine”, the worse the situation really is, learn history :) And IM question to finish - if sanctions do not bring any noticeable damage to Russia - why Putin (international criminal) and all his entourage, at the first opportunity nags to cancel sanctions ? If there is no harm from them ? :)
PS I'll warn you right away - my relatives live in Russia, I know about the real situation firsthand, from people living there. The city is not Moscow, but it is one of the largest cities in Russia.


 

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