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Re: 68 posts in one day, user Doovla should be warned
« Reply #660 on: April 15, 2024, 11:16:29 PM »
From any of your posts (or any other user's posts) you can access the Master Badge List, just look at the bottom of any post on the left side of the user's profile. You can find it at: Total Badges: 15 Badges: (View All). Simply click on View All and it will take you to the list of badges the user earned and you will see a link to the full list.

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There are not so many of them, but all those badges are neutral.
When you see someone with 5000 Posts or SuperActive badge it is not clear if they are quality user or spammer.

I like Topic Starter badge, that is useful for people who asked for adding of OP letters like in bitcoin talk forum.
Just tell admin to make this badge sticky in profile of member who created topic.

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Re: 68 posts in one day, user Doovla should be warned
« Reply #660 on: April 15, 2024, 11:16:29 PM »

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Re: 68 posts in one day, user Doovla should be warned
« Reply #661 on: April 16, 2024, 07:13:00 PM »
There are not so many of them, but all those badges are neutral.
When you see someone with 5000 Posts or SuperActive badge it is not clear if they are quality user or spammer.

I like Topic Starter badge, that is useful for people who asked for adding of OP letters like in bitcoin talk forum.
Just tell admin to make this badge sticky in profile of member who created topic.

Keep in mind that a spammer would not have had time to write more than 5,000 posts, his account would previously be full of negative badges and probably the most striking of them, L.Q.P., additionally, that user would also be in the "Under Review" group. They are neutral because they are badges that are obtained as achievements unlocked on the forum. Think that the "super active" badge can be for a specific activity, we cannot write 25, or 50 posts every day, but sometimes it is possible. A suggestion can be made to the administrator about what you say about the list.
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Re: 68 posts in one day, user Doovla should be warned
« Reply #662 on: April 16, 2024, 08:54:06 PM »
Keep in mind that a spammer would not have had time to write more than 5,000 posts, his account would previously be full of negative badges and probably the most striking of them, L.Q.P., additionally, that user would also be in the "Under Review" group. They are neutral because they are badges that are obtained as achievements unlocked on the forum. Think that the "super active" badge can be for a specific activity, we cannot write 25, or 50 posts every day, but sometimes it is possible.
I know that mister president  ;D
5000 posts was just an example, but I see some members posting only news article all the time, so it is not impossible to happen.
I like the badges here and they can be improved, maybe added few more.

A suggestion can be made to the administrator about what you say about the list.
Should I write this as separate suggestion, or president will inform admin, he has more power I think ;)
 

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Re: 68 posts in one day, user Doovla should be warned
« Reply #663 on: April 18, 2024, 06:54:05 PM »

I know that mister president  ;D
5000 posts was just an example, but I see some members posting only news article all the time, so it is not impossible to happen.
I like the badges here and they can be improved, maybe added few more.

Should I write this as separate suggestion, or president will inform admin, he has more power I think ;)

I can assure you that I have much less “power” than you imagine, and even if I did I wouldn't care, I'm just another user.

To propose new things, I think it is always better to make a suggestion in the corresponding subforum, so other users can contribute other ideas related to the suggestion and a new debate is also created, which is always interesting.
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Re: Report Spammers
« Reply #664 on: May 25, 2024, 02:11:02 PM »
I see that most of the moderators are present here, so I will not open a new topic.
Also, I don't want to ruin anyone's job or the possibility of earning something here. There is always talk here about signature campaigns, why there aren't more of them, better payment rates and the like, and when someone gets the privilege to be part of the campaign, they do it hastily. Then we look at the sad posts, why someone closed the campaign and why it has no effect.

This is a pure example of burst posting

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In addition to the fact that they are mostly useless comments, today he wrote 15 posts in a period of 10:46:39 AM up to 11:46:14 AM. Most often, the posts were written in an interval of only 2 or 3 minutes, I am pretty sure that it is not possible to provide such many quality posts in such a short time.
Thus, in an hour he "finished" half of the weekly quota required for payment in the campaign. I see that he is in the Coinomize campaign, so I will also mention the manager julerz12, I believe that at least a warning would be necessary here.
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Re: Report Spammers
« Reply #665 on: May 25, 2024, 07:49:23 PM »
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After reading your post, I would like to say a few things...

The first thing is that I totally agree with you. We can't "complain" about payments when things like this happen. The second thing is that in this case the moderators cannot do anything, since although it is true that he has written 15 posts in a very short time, he has not broken any rules of the forum.

I think that in this case it is the manager who should take action, and possibly those measures could be a rule in which users must publish their weekly quota throughout the week, and for example expand the minimum of 100 characters per post. By expanding the number of characters in each post, managers will ensure that users develop and express their ideas and opinions better, or at least I think so.

About a week ago I saw this on Telegram:



That user only received payment for 9 posts, I seem to remember.

I think it is possibly the quickest and most effective solution for users who are trying to abuse to realize that they are doing things wrong.

I'll say something else, although some call me an iron fist again... When users do that and nothing happens, the overall campaign can degrade. Getting that user to change their behavior is one solution, and if that doesn't work, another solution would be to remove the user from the campaign so that someone else can do an acceptable and adequate job.

Edit: I will try to talk to the affected user.
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Re: Report Spammers
« Reply #666 on: May 25, 2024, 09:06:59 PM »
Edit: I will try to talk to the affected user.

The idea is to warn the user and draw the attention of the manager. As I said, it is not my intention to exclude someone from the possibility of earning some money.

I think it is important that spam is not rewarded through signature rewards, that would be a waste of money for both the campaign owner and the forum.

Thanks Freemind for your engagement here.
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Re: Report Spammers
« Reply #666 on: May 25, 2024, 09:06:59 PM »


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Re: Report Spammers
« Reply #667 on: May 25, 2024, 11:48:02 PM »
Edit: I will try to talk to the affected user.

The idea is to warn the user and draw the attention of the manager. As I said, it is not my intention to exclude someone from the possibility of earning some money.

I think it is important that spam is not rewarded through signature rewards, that would be a waste of money for both the campaign owner and the forum.

Thanks Freemind for your engagement here.

I agree with this.

I think the community is too aggressive is bitcointalk. People are very intolerant and harsh and a person can be easily red tagged... I don't agree with many red tags I have seen there
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Re: Report Spammers
« Reply #668 on: May 26, 2024, 08:34:27 AM »
The idea is to warn the user and draw the attention of the manager. As I said, it is not my intention to exclude someone from the possibility of earning some money.

I think it is important that spam is not rewarded through signature rewards, that would be a waste of money for both the campaign owner and the forum.

Thanks Freemind for your engagement here.

Don't worry, I know that your intention is not to go against the user, and it is not my intention either, that is why I have sent a PM to the user so that he can read these posts and be aware of what is happening.

I agree with this.

I think the community is too aggressive is bitcointalk. People are very intolerant and harsh and a person can be easily red tagged... I don't agree with many red tags I have seen there

I know, unfortunately I know how aggressive the BTT community is sometimes. That's why we do things differently here.

Thanks to both of you, @examplens and @bitmover, for your interest in improving the forum.

+2 for each of you.
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Re: Report Spammers
« Reply #669 on: May 26, 2024, 01:24:09 PM »
I agree with this.

I think the community is too aggressive is bitcointalk. People are very intolerant and harsh and a person can be easily red tagged... I don't agree with many red tags I have seen there

I know, unfortunately I know how aggressive the BTT community is sometimes. That's why we do things differently here.

Thanks to both of you, @examplens and @bitmover, for your interest in improving the forum.

+2 for each of you.

Yes, Bitcointalk users can be very aggressive with very little tolerance.
We have had a large number of campaigns there for years, and there is a lot of competition when applying, following the rules of the campaign has become very important because it is very easy to lose a place. This is what is missing from this forum, I hope that some new campaigns will bring such an upgrade.

There is an obvious pattern of behaviour, and I have the impression that the natives of this forum and the campaign signatures experience it as some kind of bounty whose results nobody cares about.
So for example (see the post time)


It is very easy to recognize this kind of behaviour.
What do these three users have in common? Burstposting, participants (of the same) campaign, zoom 1 membership, non-teleported.

The manager should pay attention to such things, and possibly give some warnings to such users with an explanation of what they are doing wrong. Without raising the quality, there will be no new campaigns or forum growth.

I will put a link to this discussion in the campaign thread to draw the manager's attention to this.
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Re: Report Spammers
« Reply #670 on: May 26, 2024, 03:10:01 PM »
It is very easy to recognize this kind of behaviour.
What do these three users have in common? Burstposting, participants (of the same) campaign, zoom 1 membership, non-teleported.
+1 , Since this falls under "this user contributes mostly to none crypto topics or very superficial contribution." It is within quality3[1]



But even Zoom 1 membership is no longer a meaningful classification because no penalties have been taken.


@Freemind I hope to send a message to all Zoom 1 members { if they do not change their posting style within 10 days, their signatures will be deleted (they can wear signatures after 3 months if their posting style changes), thus we have guaranteed healthy discussions.}

[1] https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319457.0
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Re: Report Spammers
« Reply #671 on: May 26, 2024, 05:14:56 PM »
I will put a link to this discussion in the campaign thread to draw the manager's attention to this.

In addition to the aggressiveness of some BTT users and the ease with which a user can lose a spot in a signature campaign, unfortunately it is also easy to get banned.

The users shown in the screenshot you posted were added to my list as of this morning, with the intention of sending them a private message. By the way, @legend45 replied to me and told me that he had read the message I sent him. I hope it helps in some way. I will help as much as possible in the campaign thread with the post you write. A link to this conversation would also be interesting, so that users can value what they have and use it correctly.

Once again @examplens, thank you for your dedication and interest in improving the forum.

+1 , Since this falls under "this user contributes mostly to none crypto topics or very superficial contribution." It is within quality3[1]



But even Zoom 1 membership is no longer a meaningful classification because no penalties have been taken.


@Freemind I hope to send a message to all Zoom 1 members { if they do not change their posting style within 10 days, their signatures will be deleted (they can wear signatures after 3 months if their posting style changes), thus we have guaranteed healthy discussions.}

[1] https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319457.0

Zoom group is still useful for classifying, but it is true that the administrator should possibly allow more moderators to work with that group, since he has other tasks to do.

I agree with you that sending a message to everyone in the zoom group is a good idea, but I think it's the campaign manager who can (and should) push harder on that.
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Re: Report Spammers
« Reply #672 on: May 29, 2024, 08:21:41 AM »
I agree with you that sending a message to everyone in the zoom group is a good idea, but I think it's the campaign manager who can (and should) push harder on that.
In the beginning, there was talk about some restrictions, but I hope that they will not be implemented soon, or at least that users will be warned before implementing them.



the quality bar will have some features and limitations
more on this soon


for example red dots > will no longer be able to have signatures
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Re: Report Spammers
« Reply #673 on: May 29, 2024, 09:34:10 PM »
In the beginning, there was talk about some restrictions, but I hope that they will not be implemented soon, or at least that users will be warned before implementing them.



the quality bar will have some features and limitations
more on this soon


for example red dots > will no longer be able to have signatures

Correct. I guess the admin still needs to make some changes from what we read in that post. And also the managers (in case there are any who don't know) will have to do something to fill the free spots when these new rules start to work. Although in theory these users should not have been accepted in the signature campaigns, although not all managers may think the same. What would be a complete disaster is for some managers to accept users who are within the zoom group and other managers to do the opposite. A consensus is needed to clarify things.
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Re: 68 posts in one day, user Doovla should be warned
« Reply #674 on: June 01, 2024, 01:59:26 PM »
Obviously, he decided to change this but in a rather wrong way. Yesterday (8 April) he wrote a total of 68 posts, with short breaks, usually one post every 2-5 minutes. (Post history https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36763;area=showposts;start=0 )
It reminds me the day on WO thread LOL
When Bitcoin price is breaking a ATH or moving up after a long sideways then we used to go crazy. You make a posts in a few minutes there are several more posts then you reply them. It used to continue for hours 😂

Keep in mind that a spammer would not have had time to write more than 5,000 posts, his account would previously be full of negative badges and probably the most striking of them, L.Q.P., additionally, that user would also be in the "Under Review" group. They are neutral because they are badges that are obtained as achievements unlocked on the forum. Think that the "super active" badge can be for a specific activity, we cannot write 25, or 50 posts every day, but sometimes it is possible.
I know that mister president  ;D
5000 posts was just an example, but I see some members posting only news article all the time, so it is not impossible to happen.
I like the badges here and they can be improved, maybe added few more.

A suggestion can be made to the administrator about what you say about the list.
Should I write this as separate suggestion, or president will inform admin, he has more power I think ;)
Excuse my illiteracy, where do I find the reputation board or a similar board like reputation that we have in Bitcointalk. You two need to see each others there LOL
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