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PAL NETWORK SCAM SO BE CAREFUL
« on: November 15, 2018, 05:31:09 PM »
Pal Network ICO is a scam, even though they do have a credential from previous ventures in simplifying insurance. I went to their pitch from Ethereum Singapore. After obersering this ICO's developments and hoping that they are not a scam, i cannot sit by anymore and not educate the public about experience with Pal Network and why it is a scam.


1) The CEO Val Yap has no idea what is the difference between a private chain and a public chain.

2) The Tech team does not know what the PYPL tokens are for, they refer to its use case as staking in a public chain they would build in future BUT event validation (insurance events) signing can only be done by trusted partners. The constant switching between their positions for their tokens tells me this is an attempt at raising capital for their current business ventures, not for building a truly public blockchain

3) The consensus mechanism for their supposedly PoS chain is not announced, and I assume it is to do with their setup being trusted (aka dPoS). I have no idea what consensus they are intending to use: Ouroboros/Casper/Algorand. No technical details on how they plan to initiate consensus among nodes were given.

4) Upon pressing them on how they plan to implement the first phase of their chain, they gave the answer that they plan to setup a Plasma child chain on the Ethereum mainnet, which does not give me confidence considering Plasma chain like OmiseGO which has the resources and talents have yet launch their testnet (only MVP).

5) The team has no experience in working with public chain networks, only in private chains using Quorum and Hyperledger SDK.

6) Upon pressing on how privacy features will be adopted or in the roadmap, they have no idea what privacy mechanisms like zkSNARKs, zkSTARKs and ring signatures are. This is extremely important because in order for you to put a policy on the public chain, you will need a privacy feature! Whether, you are storing your policies offchain does NOT matter as the event trigger are on the blockchain!

7) Upon asking all these hard technical questions politely on telegram, I was dismissed with the constant "The team will get back to you" even though their token sale is just 2 weeks away. This is a red alert.

8) The last polite message I posted on their telegram to warn them the gravity of their situation triggered the deleting of all my posted messages to wipe the hard questions and a ban.

I have not touched on the non-technical parts of this project that makes this extremely shady like triggering FOMO among the telegram by flooding it with bounty hunters (telegram went from 1k to 10k in a week), website setup in panama and etc.

I am extremely disappointed as a Singaporean to see that a MAS Sandbox Graduate would carry out a scam in the crypto scene. This is a bad mark for the crypto project developments in Singapore
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Re: PAL NETWORK SCAM SO BE CAREFUL
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2018, 03:48:04 PM »
Are they aware that pal network has shared resources with policypal, which is a totally different entity? The dual usage of team members including CEOs in crypto and MAS insurance broker firms is terrible. This is an conflict of interest. And lack of focus as well. Sharing of resources is not clear. Data integrity is uncertain. Did MAS allow?

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Re: PAL NETWORK SCAM SO BE CAREFUL
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2018, 04:04:39 PM »
Financials is scary with PAL. PAL had claimed to raise 23,809 when ETH is around $1k. Current ETH price is $200. With Val travelling, sponsoring and spending without any products out. PAL is out of money very soon. Dumping?

Exchange listing are all expensive. Lets see.
i) kucoin.. should be $500k
ii) coinbene.. another $500k
iii) bittrex is a major exchange. We could be looking at $1 mil or more
and they have multiple exchanges at least $100k each
PolicyPay is regularly sponsors and have events, assuming each costs $20k.
They dun have a lot of money left.

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Re: PAL NETWORK SCAM SO BE CAREFUL
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2018, 04:14:34 PM »
Richardson you will be amazed that a wallet that sells huge lots of tokens obtained from the address of the project contract ...Even Telegram admins are banned for asking about this situation. I think they are well aware of what is happening.

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Re: PAL NETWORK SCAM SO BE CAREFUL
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2018, 05:39:17 PM »
Check this out too

newbie deactivated link:http://www.ktvn.com/story/39549166/fintech-industry-advocates-for-prudence-and-transparency-in-singapore-cryptocurrency-marketplace [nonactive]

newbie deactivated link:http://markets.ask.com/ask/news/read/37357150 [nonactive]


newbie deactivated link:http://archive.is/7OuUv?ico=policypal-scam-MAS [nonactive]

Mentioned Policypal abused their MAS sandbox startup, which they totally ignored.

 

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