Report Multiaccounts

[Husna QA]

I was relaxed in the forum to make a post but I saw that this 2 member got zoom 1, even though before I had not seen the case being faced by these 2 members.

Does anyone know why armanda90 and bounceback get Zoom 1 ??

Definitely for shit posting too many times and to help the community and campaign managers spot shit posters real quick. Surprised both accounts are still in a signature campaign with their shit posting attitudes. I haven't checked the campaign spreadsheet to confirm this but they're both wearing Coinimize signature and avatar.

I don't know zoom 1 for what cases. However, look at the both accounts' quality bar (red dot). In that case, I assume that the violation is not just because of shit posts but related to multiple accounts or account farms, as mentioned in the description of Quality bars as explained by the admin at the following link:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319457.0

Bad Quality

:
This user have a major issue that needs to be resolved. (this is like negative trust) . We advise the user to contact the admin to see if there is a solution to this issue.
(multiple accounts, account farms, ...)
We do not advise bounty managers to work with these users.

[Freemind]

armanda90 = https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97338
bounceback = https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97329

If my question is off-topic, please move to a more precise subforum.

I was relaxed in the forum to make a post but I saw that this 2 member got zoom 1, even though before I had not seen the case being faced by these 2 members.

Does anyone know why armanda90 and bounceback get Zoom 1 ??
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Multiple accounts, that's the reason. It's easy to understand if you read the information about the quality bar Husna QA (+3) refers to. The owner of these accounts has attempted to hide certain information from their accounts and has not logged into the forum for several days. A "trick" that hasn't worked at all.

In fact, as you've seen in this thread, and possibly others, when I say I need time, it's precisely for these things. I need to cross-reference a lot of data to try not to make mistakes.

[dragononcrypto]

I don't know zoom 1 for what cases. However, look at the both accounts' quality bar (red dot). In that case, I assume that the violation is not just because of shit posts but related to multiple accounts or account farms, as mentioned in the description of Quality bars as explained by the admin at the following link:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319457.0

Have updated that topic as no longer applies, which I was supposed to do a long-time ago but evidently forgot. Hope the below helps to clarify things.

Note: After community discussion this initiative is not currently active. (dragononcrypto update)

The red dot is instead referenced in topic below, based on information clarified by admin.

=> Multi-accounts, blocks signature changes

Thus reporting users that have a red dot already is unnecessary (unless connecting them to users without them etc), as they have already been tagged and punished.


Why they don't instead have the clone/cheater label is admin's business, and to also clarify, global mods do not have the privileges to apply the red dot or clone badge. However with such a red dot - that bounty managers are aware is a "bad dot", even if not always clear on why - multi-accounts won't get selected for signature campaigns, nor can they change their signature, so the system works as intended. Multi-accounts can otherwise continue discussions on the forum etc, but generally they won't as not able to cheat at bounties anymore.

[Legion]

~ when I say I need time, it's precisely for these things. I need to cross-reference a lot of data to try not to make mistakes.

Good job Mr. Freemind, I realize that your work is not only in this forum, but also in real life which is quite difficult. However, gaining the trust of the altcointalk admin to become president and carry out a very important mandate is not an easy task. I really appreciate the president's duties, stay healthy sir.

A little illustration that is Mr Freemind being worked on president with a small part of the problem here.

[admin]

the best way for users to have a good defence is to not use vpn nor use tor, this way if they do nothing wrong, they can get the full backing of the president and me ...
but i do use vpn, and i understand if many do as well, hence we can not blame anyone for using vpn or tor browser.

this said, investigating accounts is tough, and accusations are accusation till proven.

i only have one issue with the methodology.
I do not get the idea of an account being suspect for simply transferring to another user some funds, (i have sent a lot of funds to multiple users, once one of the forum main og asked for a few dollars loan, and nostoman (the godfather of farm accounts) sent it ).
the approach is flawed, it assumes that the accounts are linked even when they might not be.

Yes, we can imagine a scenario, where a user participates in same bounty with multiple accounts  and needs some funds to be able to transfer and sell, thus send himself the funds.
But, there are also many other alternative scenarios, i'll give you some:
- Hide origin (funds are eventually tracked to an individual if they came through a cex), thus asking for some funds from someone can be used to hide the origin, especially if you want to launch a token.
- You participated in a bounty and you have no funds to sell the token, you ask for a loan from someone.
- You are in a high position in the forum, and you are taking care of the local community, rewards , sending small funds to allow users to sell token (especially newbies), and sometimes have deals or even private token sales.
- You are taken advantage by a farm (opposite of previous point) that ask you for little fees on various account, and you do not know they are the same.
etc ...

[admin]

I will not meddle in this investigation, please refer to my previous post

however, if proven correct, it will be dealt with in an appropriate way, i reserve the right to grant immunity to any account (with the promise to abstain from the damaging activity, and appropriate action taken on duplicate accounts if proven)

This said, based on my previous post, i do not believe it is the case, as a president and a community leader, you will find yourself sending tokens here and there as i stated in my previous post.

[kai]

I was relaxed in the forum to make a post but I saw that this 2 member got zoom 1, even though before I had not seen the case being faced by these 2 members.

Does anyone know why armanda90 and bounceback get Zoom 1 ??

Definitely for shit posting too many times and to help the community and campaign managers spot shit posters real quick.
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Is it still an accusation of prejudice shit posting?
Or is there already a thread about their case?

Btw , I've searched for it in various subforums but I haven't found any reference why the two members armanda90 and bounceback got the red dot zoom1.
If you have any references as to why they both got the Red Dot, please send me the link because I would like to know the details about them both in this case. Thank you.

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This badges were announced late last year I guess and there's no dedicated report thread for it.

As far as I know, in real life and digital (including forums), if you give a statement or sign, it should be with valid evidence so that it is more accurate in every step to develop and advance a platform. Cmiiw

armanda90 = https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97338
bounceback = https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97329

If my question is off-topic, please move to a more precise subforum.

I was relaxed in the forum to make a post but I saw that this 2 member got zoom 1, even though before I had not seen the case being faced by these 2 members.

Does anyone know why armanda90 and bounceback get Zoom 1 ??
~snip~

Multiple accounts, that's the reason. It's easy to understand if you read the information about the quality bar Husna QA (+3) refers to. The owner of these accounts has attempted to hide certain information from their accounts and has not logged into the forum for several days. A "trick" that hasn't worked at all.

Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it and it seems to make sense to me personally at this point.

In fact, as you've seen in this thread, and possibly others, when I say I need time, it's precisely for these things. I need to cross-reference a lot of data to try not to make mistakes.

Yes, I believe you as the President of this altcoinstalks forum. I am sure your dedication is higher than other members and it certainly takes a lot of time to be able to organize every case that exists.
The best respect for you for continuing to provide positive things for altcoinstalks.

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this said, investigating accounts is tough, and accusations are accusation till proven.
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Thank you admin, for this statement I appreciate you as the owner of the altcoinstalks forum.
I'm sure a lot of time is wasted to provide the best service for all members in this altcoinstalks.

Take your time, don't be late for meals, and get enough rest. I'm sure the Admin and President have the perfect effort and dedication for every step in this altcoinstalks.

[kai]

FYI :

I found new information about Dot Red on this forum and both are in the Coinomize campaign. As usual I just check the campaign board for the latest updates but I found more than that.
For more details, please check the information below:

Number sheet -> 22 -> Agbe  -> https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97260
Number sheet -> 57 -> DragonF  -> https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97910

Coinomize Spreadsheet week 68 -> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15rs5KNc28FQyFVLCCIScPEI1LhzbBr3URvMnHS8IEa0/edit?gid=551277800#gid=551277800

I just checked on the Coinomize Spreadsheet on week 68 and in the notification on week 69 there were 2 empty slots. That means members Agbe and DragonF were removed from the campaign.

My question is, the ones who gave the Red Dot were Admin and President but I don't know directly what mistakes these two members have made?
I didn't find any specific thread or discussion about them both getting the Red Dot. Do any of you know anything about this case?

[Jokers]

My question is, the ones who gave the Red Dot were Admin and President but I don't know directly what mistakes these two members have made?
I didn't find any specific thread or discussion about them both getting the Red Dot. Do any of you know anything about this case?

Guys, please stop using report topics for discussions. These topics are to report violations that need to be moderated. All other posts are off topic.

Freemind recently opened a new topic about users with the red dot, you can try to ask there.

[dragononcrypto]

My question is, the ones who gave the Red Dot were Admin and President but I don't know directly what mistakes these two members have made?
I didn't find any specific thread or discussion about them both getting the Red Dot. Do any of you know anything about this case?

Guys, please stop using report topics for discussions.

What VP said. This has been referenced in the "bad groups" topic for sometime already as well:

=> Multi-accounts, blocks signature changes

[Legion]

Guys, ~ These topics are to report violations that need to be moderated. All other posts are off topic.

Freemind recently opened a new topic about users with the red dot, you can try to ask there.

Quite good development to you guys,

But Unfortunately my case is still not fully clear, Somehow some cases that are not posted here are handled very quickly. However, I am still waiting for the continuation of my case with a clear violation of abusing the authority of trust.

As for the transaction sent from Mbah to, I've sent a PM.

Also I did not get any further information or updates from this statement. I know maybe this cannot be published but at least there is a little announcement with what can be informed is good enough to be appreciated. Considering from the last user online.


Still waiting for updates, to expose the next case.

[kai]

He has the username Ottavio but he says he is Sasha
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=99928

She has the username Sascha but she says she is Sasha
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=99917

Ottavio https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=99928 , Created Account November 26, 2024, 04:10:20 PM
Sascha https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=99917 , Created Account November 26, 2024, 11:41:38 AM

I have a suspicion that these two accounts are related because they were created on the same day and there was a typo in making a post by calling herself Sasha but the username is Ottavio.

[enwi]

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Hi Kai, I really appreciate your enthusiasm and passion to investigate this, but before that there are some things you need to pay attention to, you can do a Post like this in the place that has been provided (Report Multiaccounts).

I hope you can delete the post in this section, then make it again with more complete evidence that is easy to read and understand, such as screenshot attachments etc. so that the judge can investigate and make further decisions.

[dragononcrypto]

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Hi Kai, I really appreciate your enthusiasm and passion to investigate this, but before that there are some things you need to pay attention to, you can do a Post like this in the place that has been provided (Report Multiaccounts).

I hope you can delete the post in this section, then make it again with more complete evidence that is easy to read and understand, such as screenshot attachments etc. so that the judge can investigate and make further decisions.

Jokers has split and merged this one now. I otherwise assume Freemind will take a look at this, but this is far from a good report as it's based on suspicion not evidence. What are the chances two users with a popular name like Sascha sign up to the forum 7 hours apart, one of them using the username at the same time? Totally possible imo. While the name isn't common the U.S., it still very common in Germany, Russia, and other Slavic nations, for reference sake.

@Jokers: when merging please tick the "change post subjects to original topic" option next time, or whatever it's called, so I'm not left in a permanent state of confusion 

[kai]

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Hi Kai, I really appreciate your enthusiasm and passion to investigate this, but before that there are some things you need to pay attention to, you can do a Post like this in the place that has been provided (Report Multiaccounts).

Okay, thanks for your attention and this notification, I will create or reply the correct topic in (Report Multiaccounts) section if I find the same case again.

I hope you can delete the post in this section, then make it again with more complete evidence that is easy to read and understand, such as screenshot attachments etc. so that the judge can investigate and make further decisions.

I think there is no need to Delete the reply to this topic because as far as I know the Moderator in this subforum can move or Merge to the actual topic. This is what I often hear when I discuss in the Indonesian subforum with Husna QA.