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Yomix withdrew his deposits from 2 forums on which they were advertised (Exploit and another), and literally a few days after that, on another large hacker forum XSS, a user provided evidence that yomix stole 2 BTC from him (at the time of filing the complaint, yomix had on this forum there was a deposit of 1 BTC which was frozen). I won’t go into detail, but now their account is blocked and marked as a scammer.
Less than a few days later, on the same forum, another user reported the theft of 0.5 BTC. Some reputable users began an investigation and came to the conclusion that yomix and several well-known mixers belong to the same group of people.
Is there any reason why you include their BTT ann link? Considering mixers are no longer allowed there, I don't think it is really helpful for most people.
BitMixList (https://bitmixlist.org/) this will give you the list of all the best, reliable and privacy sites Bitcoin mixers with additional information like the history of Bitcoin mixers and others
Nice and clean list, but maybe you should also add list of archived and closed mixers (no need to add all details for them).
I would also add Joinmarket, and controversial wallets with Coinjoin (Samourai and Wasabi).
Are all listed mixers support only Bitcoin or there are some with support for other altcoins?
I plan to add these three mixers to the list, but they are quite unknown to me.[/size]
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I am not sure that it is important to mention mixers from the past, as well as possibly scam mixers or phishing sites. Simply, if they are not on the recommended list, then they should not be considered.
[/size]Trezor can't do any coinjoin on their own, only in cooperation with Wasabi zkSnacks.
I could also add wallets with the Coinjoin function. Does the Trezor belong there, as far as I know, it also offers a similar possibility.
I have never tried any of this mixers, so it's hard to really write a good review of any of them at the moment, but then, I hope to try unijoin mixer soon, since it's also a mandatory thing for me to do as one of their signature ad campaign participant.Read and write carefully.
34. Promoting or linking to mixer services is prohibited.[11][/size]
35. Promoting or linking to DDoS services is prohibited.[12]
Other forums don't necessarily have a large total number of daily visitors because the aim of this mixer campaign is to increase mixer users, and if other forums still accept mixer campaigns, you have to pay attention to how much traffic they get and how many people visit the mixer website. Bitcointalk is the biggest Bitcoin forum, so Theymos doesn't want to damage the forum's image just because of a mixer.I have never tried any of this mixers, so it's hard to really write a good review of any of them at the moment, but then, I hope to try unijoin mixer soon, since it's also a mandatory thing for me to do as one of their signature ad campaign participant.Read and write carefully.
You are wearing mixer signature, and I think campaign rules are that you should try and review Unijon ;)
Do you know any other forum or place that is advertising mixers right now except Altcoinstalks?
After mixer exodus happened there are two new rules added in bitcointalk forum today, and now mixers with ddos services are officially prohibited and not allowed there.34. Promoting or linking to mixer services is prohibited.[11][/size]
35. Promoting or linking to DDoS services is prohibited.[12]
Other forums don't necessarily have a large total number of daily visitors because the aim of this mixer campaign is to increase mixer users, and if other forums still accept mixer campaigns, you have to pay attention to how much traffic they get and how many people visit the mixer website. Bitcointalk is the biggest Bitcoin forum, so Theymos doesn't want to damage the forum's image just because of a mixer.
I found this thread helpful though I am not using this services right now but maybe in the future if I need to. Hopefully this forum won't ban them as well just like Bitcointalk did. And yeah this is my very first time giving karma here on this forum. 😅AltcoinsTalks is a friendly crypto forum, here we do not ban any good projects. Each project has its own solution, its own target users and its own role in this market.
reserved pixelsLet's start a mega discussion about mixers.
I will try to keep all the information up to date, but any suggestion is welcome
Personally, I agree with joniboini. I would not include bitcointalk links are users might find outdated information thereOP can add prefix OLD ann topic, so everyone can go back in history and see specific mixer activity, something like archive for each service.
It would be best if those services create official accounts in altscointalks forum to answer questions directly here, like it was in bitcointalk forum.
Tumbler.io and few other mixers don't even have ann topic here yet.
It would be best if those services create official accounts in altscointalks forum to answer questions directly here, like it was in bitcointalk forum.
Tumbler.io and few other mixers don't even have ann topic here yet.
I agree with you.
Mixers must move their ANN from bitcointalk to altcoinstalk so community can get their support here. Public places for discussions with service representative is a must for this kind of services.
This is a quite helpful thread for those people who want to learn about Bitcoin mixers. I'm happy to see that you have listed most of the mixers that are available. This is going to be the main thread for the ones who want to find details about the mixers. Just keep it updated as soon as needed! +Karma for the thread.Yes we certainly don't know about many mixers and we also don't know which mixers have fees, maximum and minimum amount of bitcoins that can be mixed. Through this topic we got to know a lot about mixer and we can also know about what kind of announcement this mixer will make in the future through this thread. Thanks to OP who created this important useful topic.
They could blacklist any address they want and sending anything from that address to exchange would trigger automatic alert on their system, that could freeze your account.
I think Unijoin is smarter with addresses than other banned mixer you mentioned and they wont get connected with notorious hackers group.
Looking at the whole thing about Sinbad, didn't they turn out to be quite wiseWise how? :o
Remember Chipmixer, who had a huge amount of Bitcoins, servers, and data seized...Yes I remember.
Yes we certainly don't know about many mixers and we also don't know which mixers have fees, maximum and minimum amount of bitcoins that can be mixed. Through this topic we got to know a lot about mixer and we can also know about what kind of announcement this mixer will make in the future through this thread. Thanks to OP who created this important useful topic.Yes, through this thread we can get all information about the mixers and I'm happy to see that members are already gaining some benefits by reading this thread. I would love to visit this thread time after time so I can gain updated information about the mixers.
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I found this thread helpful though I am not using this services right now but maybe in the future if I need to. Hopefully this forum won't ban them as well just like Bitcointalk did. And yeah this is my very first time giving karma here on this forum. 😅AltcoinsTalks is a friendly crypto forum, here we do not ban any good projects. Each project has its own solution, its own target users and its own role in this market.
I believe that Crypto Mixer is one of the important parts to protect user anonymity, and not everyone who uses these services is a bad person with bad intentions. Many organizations and individuals do not want their investments to be traced 8)
-RESERVED-CryptoMixer.io is also not working at the moment. I tried that using a VPN but same issue. It was working fine a few days ago so I don't know what is the reason now. maybe another mixer fall into the govt's hand or something else. or could be just a temporary server down.
This is definitely not the final version of this post, there are a few more mixers that I know of, but I can't access some of them right now because of DDoS attacks, and I'm a bit tired right now.
I found this thread helpful though I am not using this services right now but maybe in the future if I need to. Hopefully this forum won't ban them as well just like Bitcointalk did. And yeah this is my very first time giving karma here on this forum. 😅I don't think this forum will ban mixers anytime soon. unless it is pressurized by some big govt entity or something like that. which I don't think would happen. because Mixers generally are not illegal. it's just that they are used for illegal activities which brings them into trouble.
Do you know any other forum or place that is advertising mixers right now except Altcoinstalks?
Personally, I don't see a big problem with mixers as I don't see eye to eye with the governments and in this age where data can be a treasure it is time that we secure our data and not be shared to anyone without our permission. Using the best mixer in the market according to one's preferences is one option one can use to evade intrusion into a person's privacy.
CryptoMixer.io is also not working at the moment. I tried that using a VPN but same issue. It was working fine a few days ago so I don't know what is the reason now. maybe another mixer fall into the govt's hand or something else. or could be just a temporary server down.
CryptoMixer.io is also not working at the moment. I tried that using a VPN but same issue. It was working fine a few days ago so I don't know what is the reason now. maybe another mixer fall into the govt's hand or something else. or could be just a temporary server down.
I believe it was temporary because I just tried accessing the site from my end and it worked fine, I might go back after some few hours to see if I’ll get any error while accessing it.
- Updated the first post and added Tengricrypto.com
- I'm still not sure if Bitcointalk links are necessary, given the existing restrictions there
Yap, always need to check the Tor site in order to confirm that some of the mixer services are offline. We know from earlier that mixers can ignore clearnet sites, probably due to the greater use of Tor sites, and clearnet sites are more susceptible to ddos attacks.I think it is normal that some Mixer sites no longer have support on the Tor platform because, as you know, in America there are policy problems with Mixer, so many site providers are careful and don't want to have problems with the government or police regarding everything. which smells like a cryptocurrency mixer.
I think it is normal that some Mixer sites no longer have support on the Tor platform because, as you know, in America there are policy problems with Mixer, so many site providers are careful and don't want to have problems with the government or police regarding everything. which smells like a cryptocurrency mixer.
3+ btc order. After almost 3 days still no money and no response to emails
Looks like I can't send PMs. Meanwhile there is still no answer from Tengri
Hello, sorry for the delay, I am investigating the case.
User @yummie deleted his posts, i.e. the content from them, unfortunately. It would be good if he also confirmed here and shared his experience with the Tengri mixer. It would certainly be significant for some future users.
Well, we cannot add more information, the user has requested maximum privacy. We respect the privacy of each user, finally the incident has been resolved via support. Thank you ladies and gentlemen for your interest. And thanks for reporting this matter.
How do you feel about this kind of transparency?I feel great thanks for asking ;D
Can someone add stats information for all listed mixer websites, so that we can see who is better ranked and who is having more visits from customers?
Maybe we cant get very precise information and I dont think this is possible for onion links, but it can still be useful for some people.
It appears that Yomix has inherited Sinbad's clients. Maybe it will bring profit in the short term, but in the long term, it can bring problems with the authorities I would be careful here and pay attention.I think cross-chain bridges are more problematic here than mixers, and they are much easier to shut down.
I'm not sure how "clean" the Bitcoins are now from their network.
It appears that Yomix has inherited Sinbad's clients. Maybe it will bring profit in the short term, but in the long term, it can bring problems with the authorities I would be careful here and pay attention.
I'm not sure how "clean" the Bitcoins are now from their network.
https://cryptopotato.com/chainalysis-yomix-emerges-as-top-bitcoin-mixer-after-tornado-cash-sinbad-shutdowns/
I wonder what is the probability of it having the same owner as Sinbad.
That would make more sense if it is true. Otherwise there is at least 10 more mixers that these guys aren't touching.
I saw you removed Yomix from your list, I'm still waiting for some serious confirmation of the scam from them.
I saw you removed Yomix from your list, I'm still waiting for some serious confirmation of the scam from them.
Yomix and Cryptomixer.io. icopress tipped me on the potentially illicit use of these mixers.
Also, why doesn't Tumbler.io have an ANN thread? I am sick of creating support tickets on their site and losing the private links.
Also, why doesn't Tumbler.io have an ANN thread? I am sick of creating support tickets on their site and losing the private links.You expect to receive answer from them in forum? ;D
Also, why doesn't Tumbler.io have an ANN thread? I am sick of creating support tickets on their site and losing the private links.
Either the Lazarus group is expanding significantly in the cryptocurrency, or it has become an excuse for governments to close any mixer. In general, with the tightening of the laws, I think it is a matter of time before all mixers are banned.
Following the current trend, all other mixers may be close to closing, it's enough for this Lazarus group to send their Bitcoins and screw up their business.
I saw you removed Yomix from your list, I'm still waiting for some serious confirmation of the scam from them.
Either the Lazarus group is expanding significantly in the cryptocurrency, or it has become an excuse for governments to close any mixer. In general, with the tightening of the laws, I think it is a matter of time before all mixers are banned.
Following the current trend, all other mixers may be close to closing, it's enough for this Lazarus group to send their Bitcoins and screw up their business.
I saw you removed Yomix from your list, I'm still waiting for some serious confirmation of the scam from them.
What case are you talking about and is it serious or similar to what happened with UNIJOIN?
What case are you talking about and is it serious or similar to what happened with UNIJOIN?
Looks like yomix stolen more than 200.000 few weeks ago. Some discussions here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477452.msg63795943#msg63795943
I wonder how everything would look like if there was no mixer ban on Bitcointalk.
I agree, bitcointalk really added community support to those services.I think we are missing this in AltcoinsTalks forum, and I don't understand why they don't create accounts here after they got banned in bitcointalk forum.
We have só many boards here. Maybe admin could make a mixing/coinjoin board in bitcoin section?I don't think this would change much.
We have só many boards here. Maybe admin could make a mixing/coinjoin board in bitcoin section?
Looks like yomix stolen more than 200.000 few weeks ago. Some discussions hereI couldn't find any confirmation on Google.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477452.msg63795943#msg63795943
Less than a few days later, on the same forum, another user reported the theft of 0.5 BTC. Some reputable users began an investigation and came to the conclusion that yomix and several well-known mixers belong to the same group of people.Lazarus Group has been mentioned several times and has been linked to Tornado Cash[1], Blender.io[2] Chipmixer[3] and Sinbad[4] All of these mixers mixed millions of dollars, and no case of losing money was reported, so it was surprising that this happened with YoMix, especially since they showed that they had no financial problem, and the amount was 2.5 bitcoins, compared to what was paid in the signature campaign only.
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Why dont you post some link with more information about this and other suspected mixers?
It doesnt have to be written in English language, everyone here knows to use translators, and I am sure this would be interesting reading material.
They are dark-net forums, and some of them are not available for public registration (I tried to register in some of them, but it seems that registration is closed), so mentioning links will not help in anything. The best you will get is a screenshot, but I will choose to trust what icopress says.I dont need to register on them to read what is written, and links or screenshots can be posted as proof.
I dont need to register on them to read what is written, and links or screenshots can be posted as proof.This seems logical. I hope that Icopress will provide any evidence here or send it to you in private and let us hear your evaluation of these allegations
Without confirming some evidence I am not going to trust words and rumors of anyone, but you can do it if you want.
Nobody can guarantee that some group wont use any other available mixers.
Yomix withdrew his deposits from 2 forums on which they were advertised (Exploit and another), and literally a few days after that, on another large hacker forum XSS, a user provided evidence that yomix stole 2 BTC from him (at the time of filing the complaint, yomix had on this forum there was a deposit of 1 BTC which was frozen). I won’t go into detail, but now their account is blocked and marked as a scammer.That does not sound good. Do you have evidences to support your claims. I agree here with notblox1. Without having a concreate evidence it's not usual to believe the words considering the amount of money they spent in advertising on Bitcointalk forum.
Less than a few days later, on the same forum, another user reported the theft of 0.5 BTC. Some reputable users began an investigation and came to the conclusion that yomix and several well-known mixers belong to the same group of people.
That does not sound good. Do you have evidences to support your claims. I agree here with notblox1. Without having a concreate evidence it's not usual to believe the words considering the amount of money they spent in advertising on Bitcointalk forum.
I partially agree. However , as this information comes from icopress which has a lot more information than us about those services, I certainly wouldn't use that mixer. Specially when there are other more reliable optionsI think we're talking about handling the mixer more than the user experience. I'll ask @NotATether for more details, he already has a list and recently deleted these mixers from it.
I partially agree. However , as this information comes from icopress which has a lot more information than us about those services, I certainly wouldn't use that mixer. Specially when there are other more reliable optionsI am still looking forward to a source to read and verify the news by myself. It's strange that there are no public information available to read. The latest news I found online about yomix is to emerges the top bitcoin mixer. (https://cryptopotato.com/chainalysis-yomix-emerges-as-top-bitcoin-mixer-after-tornado-cash-sinbad-shutdowns/) For a mixer, 2 or 5 BTC is just a small amount.
I think we're talking about handling the mixer more than the user experience. I'll ask @NotATether for more details, he already has a list and recently deleted these mixers from it.bitmixlist.org does not have it now. @NotATether, can we have your source at least?
I think we're talking about handling the mixer more than the user experience. I'll ask @NotATether for more details, he already has a list and recently deleted these mixers from it.I think it's better to create some kind of red (orange, yellow) list of shady mixers and still keep them for informational purposes, than to totally ignore them.
I think we're talking about handling the mixer more than the user experience. I'll ask @NotATether for more details, he already has a list and recently deleted these mixers from it.I think it's better to create some kind of red (orange, yellow) list of shady mixers and still keep them for informational purposes, than to totally ignore them.
It can be challenging to know what mixers are good and what bad, but I think this can be achieved with community help and posting regular news and updates.
This is just my 2 sats, but it's his list so he can do whatever he wants.
I think it's better to create some kind of red (orange, yellow) list of shady mixers and still keep them for informational purposes, than to totally ignore them.
It can be challenging to know what mixers are good and what bad, but I think this can be achieved with community help and posting regular news and updates.
This is just my 2 sats, but it's his list so he can do whatever he wants.
Yeah, we really need some kind of trust system in this forum.I was not talking about trust system in forum in my previous post, this was strictly related to mixer warnings with colors.
I added an orange warning next to Yomix in the table from the first post. Referred to the quoted icopress post about it.Icopress posted some screenshots with more information about Yomix in bitcointalk forum, so you should check that out:
Orange, because still not confirmed with proof, even though I don't doubt the icopress words.
Red-coloured warnings would mean that the service is officially recognized as a scam or dysfunctional.
Icopress posted some screenshots with more information about Yomix in bitcointalk forum, so you should check that out:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477452.msg63892572#msg63892572 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477452.msg63892572#msg63892572)
The color can be converted to red and Yomix can not be trusted.
Сan you sort by the year the mixer was created? Users will see how long ago this or that Bitcoin mixer has been providing its services to users.
what happened:
I need to mix bitcoins, so I tried to use yomix (https://[banned mixer]/).
because I trust yomix, I did not check step by step the amount of bitcoins sent to me after each mixing, nor did I check one by one through the blockchain explorer whether I received it Mix Bitcoin (because the yomix website prompts that the sending was successful).
Finally I was surprised to find that the order showed that it was sent successfully, but no Bitcoin was sent to my wallet address (the success deceived my eyes, because at first I thought yomix would not lie to me, but the fact is, after the transaction was completed, the order told me The mix succeeds, the send succeeds, but I don't receive any bitcoins at all).
So I tried submitting multiple tickets to contact order support. It has been 7 days and no one has contacted me and my ticket has not been answered.
The current loss is about US$30,000-40,000.
So, please stay away from this scam site (at least so far my order bitcoins have not been sent to my wallet).
I also hope that yomix can send the funds that originally belong to me after seeing my message, because this is very important to me.
While we don't have a privacy/mixer board, we can discuss bitcoin privacy here.We have only few pages are written in this topic so I am not sure if enough members is interested in doing this, but creating a pool could tell us more.
I just changed to a red warning next to the Yomix name, I also removed the links to their website.
Although the user did not provide clear evidence, this is yet another accusation coming against them. Given that this is already the second known accusation, this is only in the form of prevention.
Are those bitcointalk link useful? I think those account are basically all inactive....
Most of them doesn't post since 2023.
btw. Jambler was kicked out of Bitcointalk because it was marked as a mixer, but still, it doesn't belong on this list. ???
NotATether added it to https://Bitmixlist.orgBut Jambler is not a mixer and you can't use it directly for mixing, so it makes no sense to add it in mixer list.
Jambler should still be safe on Bitcointalk or others if they keep the word about "mixer" under wraps. Some time ago the signature used in Bitcointlak explained that there was an indication of a Mixer, so that is what ultimately led to Jambler being said to be a mixer until finally the signature campaign on Bitcointalk had to be stopped.NotATether added it to https://Bitmixlist.orgBut Jambler is not a mixer and you can't use it directly for mixing, so it makes no sense to add it in mixer list.
Only way Jambler could be added if jambler note would be added next to the currently listed mixers that are partners with Jambler.
Or maybe add a new section that is separate from other mixers, since Jambler is still a good privacy tool.
btw. Jambler was kicked out of Bitcointalk because it was marked as a mixer, but still, it doesn't belong on this list. ???
I couldn't find anything.btw. Jambler was kicked out of Bitcointalk because it was marked as a mixer, but still, it doesn't belong on this list. ???
I would add jambler to that list.
They have been kickout from bitcointalk. They should be welcomed here.
NotATether added it to https://Bitmixlist.org (https://Bitmixlist.org)
QuoteNotATether added it to https://Bitmixlist.org (https://Bitmixlist.org)I couldn't find anything.
Does it mean we only need theymos validity to know what is a mixer or not. Assuming jambler wasn't kicked out of BTT, they wouldn't have appeared here and now they are kicked out, it is a confirmation that Jambler is a mixer. Lolbtw. Jambler was kicked out of Bitcointalk because it was marked as a mixer, but still, it doesn't belong on this list. ???
I would add jambler to that list.
They have been kickout from bitcointalk. They should be welcomed here.
NotATether added it to https://Bitmixlist.org
Does it mean we only need theymos validity to know what is a mixer or not. Assuming jambler wasn't kicked out of BTT, they wouldn't have appeared here and now they are kicked out, it is a confirmation that Jambler is a mixer. LolWith your crazy logic every new service that that comes here and creates a topic in this forum from bitcointalk is a mixer ::)
Hi bitcoiners,https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494019.0
I have been using Yo!Mix from the 2022 and everything was great until this time I sent them 2.10 BTC and i have letter og gaurantee, still I didint receive any portion of my order and I tried to open ticket with them no answer and response from them.
Does anyone know if YoMix still in business or they just start to scam people?
Note:
Yes I have proof and transactions history
Unfortunately, another complaint about Yomix, it's obviously an exit scam.
Unfortunately, another complaint about Yomix, it's obviously an exit scam.I think someone should finally give them negative feedback in bitcointalk forum for scamming people.
Well, we have three mixers that have been offline for some time and we don't have any information from them. I'll wait another day in case it's maintenance before I remove them from the list.It is very unfortunate that we have some mixers that suddenly become offline.
tumbler.io
unijoin.io
cryptomixer.io
Well, we have three mixers that have been offline for some time and we don't have any information from them. I'll wait another day in case it's maintenance before I remove them from the list.
tumbler.io
unijoin.io
cryptomixer.io
It is very unfortunate that we have some mixers that suddenly become offline.
TBH, I'm very curious about this, is this caused by the news of Wasabi and ZkSnack shut down coinjoin service?
Well, I just hope it is just temporary offline. Then, you will add again Tumbler.io and Unijoin.io on the list. :'(
With these services shutting down, it might disrupt their business until they can find another source of liquidity to mix with or they change their process to not be dependent on third parties. It could also be that they got spooked by the recent arrests and decided to shut down before the same happened to them.
I completely agree, as long as they don't provide a solution for the case of your money still being stuck on their site then it can be called a scam, whatever amount of money is still stuck in your account you should be able to make a withdrawal. It's a shame that the name of such a big mixer is ruined because it doesn't give you your money. Hopefully the developer will immediately activate your account and be able to make withdrawals from your affiliate results.With these services shutting down, it might disrupt their business until they can find another source of liquidity to mix with or they change their process to not be dependent on third parties. It could also be that they got spooked by the recent arrests and decided to shut down before the same happened to them.
Shutting down without making users and affiliates whole is called an exit scam. It has happened before with the likes of Bitblender.
In the case of users, we don't know if anyone sent coins that have not finished mixing when the sites were brought down.
At least Unijoin was well-ran enough to automatically open affiliate accounts upon creation so that I could withdraw my commission from there, but from both a privacy and business perspective I am definitely not looking at this with enthusiasm.
At least Unijoin was well-ran enough to automatically open affiliate accounts upon creation so that I could withdraw my commission from there, but from both a privacy and business perspective I am definitely not looking at this with enthusiasm.Something is happening with them, I am not sure if they are coming back online or not, but I saw their reddit page r/UniJoin is being active again and making new posts.
After consideration. Tengri has decided to close. Thank you for being with us on this short journey.
Something is happening with them, I am not sure if they are coming back online or not, but I saw their reddit page r/UniJoin is being active again and making new posts.
Few minutes ago they made a post talking if mixers are traceable:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UniJoin/comments/1cqwcgu/are_bitcoin_mixers_traceable/
Five days ago they made another post, and at this time their official website was already not working:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UniJoin/comments/1cn1tao/ever_wondered_about_chainalysis_lets_unpack_it/
It is unclear to me who actually controls Unijoin reddit account.
Unfortunately, one more mixer is out of business. They may have been the youngest and have not yet acquired a user base, but they are certainly entering a negative trend of decreasing privacy service options.Why do you still have Tumbler and Unijoin listed when they are not available for some time?
It could be someone's (ie the operator's) personal account or something?I don't know but it's stranger that someone continued to post, unless this is just AI generated content.
Why do you still have Tumbler and Unijoin listed when they are not available for some time?I sincerely hoped that it would still appear and that the interruption was due to maintenance or something similar. Since there was no possibility of fraud, I did not consider that removal was urgently needed.
Unijoin.io [CLOSED]
Tumbler.io [CLOSED]
Tengricrypto.com [CLOSED]
Yomix.io [SCAM ALERT]
However, in order for the list to be reliable, I made an update and deleted mixers that are no longer functional, as well as Yomix, which is obviously high-risk.It looks better now, and inactive old mixers could be added separately without images, maybe in different post for historic purposes.
I saw today in bitcointalk forum one accusation for another service Cryptomixer.io, but I didn't see any evidence and that guy didn't even download letter of guarantee ::)I'm not sure, but icopress mentioned another mixer (in addition to Yomix) for which there are scam accusations on other networks. It may be cryptomixer.io, but I haven't found anything specific about it.
It looks better now, and inactive old mixers could be added separately without images, maybe in different post for historic purposes.I was thinking earlier, that I'll probably add in a second post some kind of log for the mixers that were removed from the list with a short explanation.
At least Unijoin was well-ran enough to automatically open affiliate accounts upon creation so that I could withdraw my commission from there, but from both a privacy and business perspective I am definitely not looking at this with enthusiasm.
Unfortunately, one more mixer is out of business. They may have been the youngest and have not yet acquired a user base, but they are certainly entering a negative trend of decreasing privacy service options.is there any specific reason now why mixers are shutting down? is it about the government running against them or its the people who is preventing from using mixing services ?
After consideration. Tengri has decided to close. Thank you for being with us on this short journey.
Obviously, I have to update the list.
is there any specific reason now why mixers are shutting down? is it about the government running against them or its the people who is preventing from using mixing services ?
it looks like there are more and more of them that shutting down each year so wondering that in the coming years there will be no mixing that available for the users.
is there any specific reason now why mixers are shutting down? is it about the government running against them or its the people who is preventing from using mixing services ?
it looks like there are more and more of them that shutting down each year so wondering that in the coming years there will be no mixing that available for the users.
Because the developers of services that deal with increasing privacy and anonymity going to be arrested. The authorities have decided to label the developers as money launderers, although they are aware that this is pure nonsense so by arresting them they are trying to discourage the further development of this segment.
Unijoin, Tengri, and Tumbler are examples of the method working.
I figure that the only way you are going to get something in this space through is by developing it under a pseudonym, like how Satoshi did with Bitcoin.
I find it quite odd that more mixers aren't jumping in to fill the void left by their predecessors, though.Maybe they are released but we didn't hear about them yet, and it takes time to built something that actually works for mixing and privacy.
I figure that the only way you are going to get something in this space through is by developing it under a pseudonym, like how Satoshi did with Bitcoin.It sure is getting very risky developing anything related with privacy these days, if your identity is known to public than you can expect someone knocking on your door soon.
I find it quite odd that more mixers aren't jumping in to fill the void left by their predecessors, though.Maybe they are released but we didn't hear about them yet, and it takes time to built something that actually works for mixing and privacy.
They must be much better protected now if they want to survive attacks and seizure from regulators, and this is going to be even more intense in future.I figure that the only way you are going to get something in this space through is by developing it under a pseudonym, like how Satoshi did with Bitcoin.It sure is getting very risky developing anything related with privacy these days, if your identity is known to public than you can expect someone knocking on your door soon.
It is also complicated to work with 2 github accounts, etc..
It is also complicated to work with 2 github accounts, etc..
Yeah, I know. I use a separate github account for the BitMixList repository and pushing commits to a branch becomes very tricky from the command line due to authentication issues. You have to put the token in your URL and not use SSH keys, and so on.
[includeIf "gitdir:~/bitmover/"]
path = ~/bitmover/.gitconfig
[core]
autocrlf = false
fileMode = false
filemode = false
#Default GitHub
Host github.com
HostName github.com
User git
IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa
#bitmover GitHub
Host github.com-bitmover
HostName github.com
User git
IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa_bitmover
[user]
email = [email protected]
name = bitmover-studio
Warrant Canary
We confirm that we take full control of our infrastructure. It has never been compromised or suffered a data breach. We have not disclosed any information of our users, and we have not been forced to modify our system to allow access or data leakage to a third party of any kind.
As of May 28, 2024 we state the following:
We have NOT received any National Security letters;
We have NOT received any gag orders;
We have NOT received any warrants from any government organization.
We are 100% committed to our zero-logs policy — we never log the activities of our users to ensure their ultimate privacy and security.
Something was certainly happening with cryptomixer.io, because on 28.05 they wrote a statement on the site. I searched a bit, but I didn't find anything from the recent past that was related to them.
Hi examplens, please could you update the Anonymixer entry?
Service Fee is 1-2%, not 1-3%
Altcoinstalks ANN URL:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=321809.0
Thanks in advance
Unfortunately, one more mixer is out of business. They may have been the youngest and have not yet acquired a user base, but they are certainly entering a negative trend of decreasing privacy service options.Is that an exit-scam? Or are they closing down their activities due to peeking regulation by law enforcement agencies? Who has any thoughts on this? In fact, because the regulation is on the nose. ::)
Is that an exit-scam? Or are they closing down their activities due to peeking regulation by law enforcement agencies? Who has any thoughts on this? In fact, because the regulation is on the nose. ::)
P.S. It is very strange when a campaign actively invests in development/promotion on forums, etc. and then immediately closes down. Most likely, there are significant reasons for this. And they're clearly not related to the scam and tc.
@examplens,Yes, I know about Royalmixer. I think that the service should have at least some user experience before adding it to the list. The idea with this thread and the list of mixers is a bit more complicated and the plan is for each mixer to go through testing and a review that would help users in future use.
Maybe you can add RoyalMix.io in your list?
Here is the ANN thread for your reference: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322103.0
Royalmix is currently offline, it seems that the development is still not completely finished, even though there were a lot of suggestions for corrections here.@examplens,Yes, I know about Royalmixer. I think that the service should have at least some user experience before adding it to the list. The idea with this thread and the list of mixers is a bit more complicated and the plan is for each mixer to go through testing and a review that would help users in future use.
Maybe you can add RoyalMix.io in your list?
Here is the ANN thread for your reference: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322103.0
Royalmix is currently offline, it seems that the development is still not completely finished, even though there were a lot of suggestions for corrections here.All legitimate mixer services are always under attack, I think all of them experienced similar problems more than once.
Things like this are the reason why we have to wait before adding any brand-new service to a list
http://jhwuz36mkc2uwxcrdjes6jyo3zxm3qw7a6s2fjcffrpax4c3prfd3qid.onion/
All legitimate mixer services are always under attack, I think all of them experienced similar problems more than once.How a mixer (or any other service) handles an attack or any other issue, qualifies it as reliable and safe or vice versa. I'm just saying that it takes a little time to recognize what and in what way Royalmix offers us.
It is true that Royalmix is currently offline and not working in normal browsers
We will not glorify them blindly because they have a signature campaign here, but they should get a chance to prove themselves.I didnt glorify anything and you can do anything you want with your list ;D
With dozens of comparison services out there, most of them have not tested the strength of mixing or how untraceable transactions are, so if there was an addition like this it would be useful.
From Monday I will have more time, so I will certainly examine all the mixers and, if necessary, correct some of the information.
My idea was for all mixers to be tested and for the basis of the review to be the mixing process itself and the result they offer at the end. The high fee slowed me down in the beginning, but then some other obligations came, in the meantime some more users appeared who created a kind of monitoring page about mixers.
With dozens of comparison services out there, most of them have not tested the strength of mixing or how untraceable transactions are, so if there was an addition like this it would be useful.
examplens can you add some textual information on top of your list as a warning to users how to protect from becoming a a victim to phishing scam with fake mixing domain websites?I still don't have the right idea of how to do it, while making it as simple as possible and without the possibility of misunderstanding.
This should be adopted by all websites and help spreading this information.
I still don't have the right idea of how to do it, while making it as simple as possible and without the possibility of misunderstanding.Just add simple and short information to watch out for phishing attacks and to always make sure you are using the real website address.
For example, the list of all known fake and scam mixer sites is quite long and requires daily updating. I don't think it's the most efficient way.
I still don't have the right idea of how to do it, while making it as simple as possible and without the possibility of misunderstanding.Just add simple and short information to watch out for phishing attacks and to always make sure you are using the real website address.
For example, the list of all known fake and scam mixer sites is quite long and requires daily updating. I don't think it's the most efficient way.
Adding one link with more information would be much better than adding a big list of all scam mixer websites.
Agree with your statement and also the spelling of the characters should also be informed further because there are already sites that have almost the same characters, the font used by the fraudster looks almost the same as the original. So we must remain careful when we want to visit a site that uses our money to make transactions there.I still don't have the right idea of how to do it, while making it as simple as possible and without the possibility of misunderstanding.Just add simple and short information to watch out for phishing attacks and to always make sure you are using the real website address.
For example, the list of all known fake and scam mixer sites is quite long and requires daily updating. I don't think it's the most efficient way.
Adding one link with more information would be much better than adding a big list of all scam mixer websites.
A new mixer has been announced on the ANN board known as swamplizard. You can add it to the list of Bitcoin mixers, here is the link to the thread of the mixer. https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=323178.0Thanks for informing me, I was selectively present so I missed the appearance of a new player.
There is also a jokermix that I didn't overlook, but I just want to give a period of adaptation and getting to know each other. I have seen many times that some service does not last longer than a month or two.
You think you'd add Jokermix to your list now?I will do it these days, and update the list.
They just sent me a PM saying that maintenance is finished, so now might be a good time for you to check it out if you want.
I mean, it's been like, what? Almost a month or something since they launched? So I don't think you don't have to worry about that anymore. There should be no danger of them disappearing.
You think you'd add Jokermix to your list now?Have you become a Jokemixer supporter and promoter now? ;)
The things that are currently happening with Royalmix are the very reason why newcomers have to go through a period of adaptation. I hope that it is only maintenance, the situation is certainly not great.You think you'd add Jokermix to your list now?Have you become a Jokemixer supporter and promoter now? ;)
Someone said they could be connected with one new exchange with similar Joke name/design, and based on what I saw so far I would be reserved with using this service.
If Jokemixer is going to be added in examplens list, than I think that SwampLizard.io should also be listed if possible.
You think you'd add Jokermix to your list now?Have you become a Jokemixer supporter and promoter now? ;)
Someone said they could be connected with one new exchange with similar Joke name/design, and based on what I saw so far I would be reserved with using this service.
If Jokemixer is going to be added in examplens list, than I think that SwampLizard.io should also be listed if possible.
Also, bitmover's proposal was imported and a blue neutral "new" badge was added along with the new mixers.This is a good idea, but I think word NEW should be a bit more larger maybe and more visible.
Showing on going scam accusation is goodAlso, bitmover's proposal was imported and a blue neutral "new" badge was added along with the new mixers.This is a good idea, but I think word NEW should be a bit more larger maybe and more visible.
Every new service should be considered more risky like we saw recently with Royalmix, and we could also create separate list of mixers with scam accusations and proven scam mixers.
It's really annoying that Royalmix would just exit scam like that,Well, it is a bit of a strange situation. It's a bit strange to me if it's scammers and everything is planned, why are they offline? Many do not know about these scam accusations, they could have been operational for a long time, and there would surely be another victim (more money for them). For example, Yomix is still online.
I'm not sure if it was a good idea to remove RoyalMix guarantee verification from my site though, what do you guys think?Colour them in red with a warning. Although their sites are offline, it is almost impossible for a new scam to happen from that side
Showing on going scam accusation is goodThis is a good idea but I think it adds a lot of complications, and genuine scam accusations are not happening that often, or when they happen they are confirmed quickly.
Another option could add a **scam accusation ** when there is still doubt on that service, with the link to it.
I'm not sure if it was a good idea to remove RoyalMix guarantee verification from my site though, what do you guys think?I think it's fine.
What about mixtum.io?If the mixer is still functional, there is no reason to remove it from the list. We cannot judge a service by its signature campaign, in the end, some other trusted mixers do not have any campaign here, not even representatives.
I see it is still in all lists of mixers
They ended/paused the campaign, but the mixer is currently active. Maybe the result was not as good as they expected?
What about mixtum.io?This is not the list of active forum campaigns, and you can find other mixers that never even started signature campaigns in this forum ;)
I see it is still in all lists of mixers
They ended/paused the campaign, but the mixer is currently active. Maybe the result was not as good as they expected?
Active Bitcoin Mixer & Tumbler websites
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Jokermix >>NEW<<
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/08/21/7hB5j.jpeg) (https://jokermix.to/)
- Service fees 2% + 15 Sats
- Network fee: Variable withdrawal fee
- Minimum deposit 0.001 BTC max 1 BTC
- Minimum deposit 1 Dash max 20 Dash
- Support BTC and DASH
- Clearnet site (https://jokermix.to/)
- Tor site (http://ssw25okonfrvgv423u5n54khg2ojjeuzl65lta5bjkbjeh2ju7nu7zid.onion/)
- Support form: NO
- email support ([email protected])
- Altcoinstalks ANN (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322767.0)
- Bitcointalk
- Launched 2024
- Referral program: NO
- Telegram Bot : NO
Small adjustment ✍🏻 :Updated. Thanks for the info.
Service fee 2% + 60 Sats > Variable withdrawal fee.
Maximum deposit 1 BTC.
For Dash, Minimum deposit 1 Dash / Maximum 20 Dash.
Hey guys, regarding The Bot is no longer available, I honestly don't think it's necessary. It was just an extra. What do you think?
Active Bitcoin Mixer & Tumbler websites
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Jokermix >>NEW<<
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/08/21/7hB5j.jpeg) (https://jokermix.to/)
- Service fees 2% + 15 Sats
- Network fee: Variable withdrawal fee
- Minimum deposit 0.001 BTC max 1 BTC
- Minimum deposit 1 Dash max 20 Dash
- Support BTC and DASH
- Clearnet site (https://jokermix.to/)
- Tor site (http://ssw25okonfrvgv423u5n54khg2ojjeuzl65lta5bjkbjeh2ju7nu7zid.onion/)
- Support form: NO
- email support ([email protected])
- Altcoinstalks ANN (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322767.0)
- Bitcointalk
- Launched 2024
- Referral program: NO
- Telegram Bot : NO
Small adjustment ✍🏻
Jokermix has been in maintenance mode for a long time, I guess I should remove him from the list, but I'll give them some more time.
Rombomix didn't even make it to the list, it's already offline. :o
BitMixList (https://bitmixlist.org/) this will give you the list of all the best, reliable and privacy sites Bitcoin mixers with additional information like the history of Bitcoin mixers and others
Quite unfortunately. They added that 2 btc discount fee and disappeared...I didn't even get a chance to properly examine this rAmbomix scam, but watch out if they try to use this coins to create another spin scam with different name/design :P
Trusted Bitcoin mixer aggregators:
(https://talkimg.com/images/2025/01/11/O4i2l.png)
The image you used is too small. Can you please use a different size, like this:Updated.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/01/17/WHJ9C.png)
An update was made in the first postHow did Jokermix changed their fee rate exactly, was it increased by 15 sats?
Changes to Jokermix
- new fee rate (2% + 15 sats)
I don't care about telegram support much, but they should have some alternative to email support, maybe SimpleX chat or something else.
Shouldn't Jambler.io be included?
Or maybe some label on the mixers that uses Jambler, as it is certainly a positive aspect of the service, making it more reliable (in my opinion)
Suggestion to you, once you have time, create one page with marketing material for your site. In that way, would you simplify the sharing of your site on other media.
An update was made in the first postHow did Jokermix changed their fee rate exactly, was it increased by 15 sats?
Changes to Jokermix
- new fee rate (2% + 15 sats)
I noticed they still have Telegram support option written in their help page, but icon was removed from the bottom, so they need to make correction.
I don't care about telegram support much, but they should have some alternative to email support, maybe SimpleX chat or something else.
(https://i.ibb.co/7Q6fm31/pic1291.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qCPSQHr)
https://jokermix.to/help-center
Quite unfortunately. They added that 2 btc discount fee and disappeared...I didn't even get a chance to properly examine this rAmbomix scam, but watch out if they try to use this coins to create another spin scam with different name/design :P
I said many times that any new mixers that appear should be considered high risk and they should be examined and investigated before sending any coins to them.
Shouldn't Jambler.io be included?I am of the opinion that Jambler is not a mixer, but a provider. You cannot mix Bitcoin on the Jambler site.
Or maybe some label on the mixers that uses Jambler, as it is certainly a positive aspect of the service, making it more reliable (in my opinion)
Maybe I can simply place all the marketing material on the Bitcointalk ANN (or the Altcoinstalks ANN), given that it's not much anyway, and there's way too many mirrors I'd have to update if I were to place it on a different page on the site.OK, that's something too.
Maybe I can simply place all the marketing material on the Bitcointalk ANN (or the Altcoinstalks ANN), given that it's not much anyway, and there's way too many mirrors I'd have to update if I were to place it on a different page on the site.OK, that's something too.
Is there really a need for such a large number of mirrors?
Originally, I was getting DDoS'ed pretty hard, so the mirrors would allow people to access stuff even if the main site succumbed to the intense traffic. Also I was getting dropped from hosting providers for this.
Nowadays though, everything seems to have calmed down. A lot of mirrors hosted on 'free sites' have been suspended for various reasons, so what's left is a couple of Git mirrors and then whatever sites are configured to build the page from that codebase.
Originally, I was getting DDoS'ed pretty hard, so the mirrors would allow people to access stuff even if the main site succumbed to the intense traffic. Also I was getting dropped from hosting providers for this.Dropped due to a DDoS attack?
Thanks for reporting it, we made a small correction :). If there are other spelling mistakes, we would be happy to have some help with spelling mistakes or omissions on the English, Russian and French pages.No problem, I will check if there are any more mistakes for English version and report it in your topic.
DDOS are expensive to keep up, so they will stop eventually...They are expensive, unless you are the one ''printing'' money, digitally or physically and you don't care about it 8)
Did you hear how Trump earned billions from his toke crap, and said it's ''Peanuts''?If he found himself in front of the Biden administration, he would certainly receive a bunch of lawsuits due to conflicts of interest, but for now, he can be arrogant.
If he found himself in front of the Biden administration, he would certainly receive a bunch of lawsuits due to conflicts of interest, but for now, he can be arrogant.But he was honest his time, billions of dollars are just peanuts for them.
btw:
"Nearly 570,000 wallets have incurred losses on TRUMP tokens, prompting speculation about potential lawsuits from disgruntled investors."
https://365crypto.org/blog/2025/01/23/trump-meme-coins-face-legal-battles-whats-next/
They are expensive, unless you are the one ''printing'' money, digitally or physically and you don't care about it 8)
Did you hear how Trump earned billions from his toke crap, and said it's ''Peanuts''?
Well, in this case the money printing was the blockchain, not a fiat currency.On blockchain only for a few minutes maybe, than they sold those crap tokens for fiat dollars and dumped on everyone else.
It is sad to see what people are doing with satoshi technology , all those useless memecoins. .
Well, in this case the money printing was the blockchain, not a fiat currency.
It is sad to see what people are doing with satoshi technology , all those useless memecoins. .
Well, in this case the money printing was the blockchain, not a fiat currency.
It is sad to see what people are doing with satoshi technology , all those useless memecoins. .
It couldn't be any other way. The worst of all, and as I imagined, is that everything ends in a "hahaha", nothing else matters to them. There are no awkward questions, there is no one raising their voice about how Trump has used his status to enrich himself with his meme and his wife's meme. They are the worst influence and the worst image that Bitcoin and this industry can have.
Well, in this case the money printing was the blockchain, not a fiat currency.
It is sad to see what people are doing with satoshi technology , all those useless memecoins. .
It couldn't be any other way. The worst of all, and as I imagined, is that everything ends in a "hahaha", nothing else matters to them. There are no awkward questions, there is no one raising their voice about how Trump has used his status to enrich himself with his meme and his wife's meme. They are the worst influence and the worst image that Bitcoin and this industry can have.
I think we ware witnessing a 'memeification of crypto'. Where everyone just makes coins out of stupid stuff in hopes that a bunch of suckers aiming for 10x buy it.
These days it's not even random newbies buying it, it's trading bots that are hoping to scalp or snipe the coin's price in hopes that they can beat the rugpull, which hardly works in practice.
At least since 2017 when i joined this cryptocurrency world, it has always been like that...
I remember the ICO crazy when shitcoins with zero fundamentals were worth billions dollars.
The only difference now is that those coins have a meme logo and name, but the fundamentals are the same ... people just want quick money
Can we now please drop all this meme coin stalk and get back on the subject of BITCOIN mixers and tumbler services?+1
Are there any important news about mixing services that we missed in past few weeks of this craziness? Maybe something new to added or remove??These days it's a very current phishing thing with the Unijoin.org mixer. As far as I have seen, it is still active and there have been deposits in the previous days.
These days it's a very current phishing thing with the Unijoin.org mixer. As far as I have seen, it is still active and there have been deposits in the previous days.
I'm open to creating a blacklist that would contain all phishing and scam mixer sites. To speed things up and make it as relevant as possible, I would be grateful for all the information about known phishing mixer domains and possible lists that I would combine here into one more complete one.
Domain: unijoin.me
Registered On: 2024-11-26
Expires On: 2025-11-26
Just a year and a half ago, it seemed that the mixer industry was one of the strongest in crypto. Now I look, judging by the altcoinstalks forum, which remained as a backup for the promotion of mixers, there are only a few mixers left that actively participate in the maintenance of the business. Coinomize and Mixero as the most active and possibly Jokermix, which occasionally appears here even though it has not yet taken a stable place in this industry.
What is the cause of this?
Just a year and a half ago, it seemed that the mixer industry was one of the strongest in crypto. Now I look, judging by the altcoinstalks forum, which remained as a backup for the promotion of mixers, there are only a few mixers left that actively participate in the maintenance of the business. Coinomize and Mixero as the most active and possibly Jokermix, which occasionally appears here even though it has not yet taken a stable place in this industry.
What is the cause of this?
Actually, the mixer industry is still quite strong, but most of them have moved to darknet forums.
I have seen this for myself.
Many mixers will not waste time promoting on a small forum like Altcoinstalks, but they'd rather advertise on forums like Exploit, XSS where most of their customers are.
~snip~
Many mixers will not waste time promoting on a small forum like Altcoinstalks, but they'd rather advertise on forums like Exploit, XSS where most of their customers are.
What is the cause of this?I think Tornado cash still exists and Samurai also lives on with forked Ashigaru wallet.
Greater integration of mandatory KYC, so mixers complicate proving the origin of Bitcoin or quite aggressive hunting of owners of related services (CM, Samurai, Tornado, Sinbad)?
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Looks like we have a new mixer on the forum.
Looks like we have a new mixer on the forum.
Yes, it seems there is a new player on the field. But after seeing the website it seems strange to me that they do not have an .onion link and that the service is only available on clearnet.
Although taking into account that they are in the early stages and that they are looking for a graphic designer, it is possible that when they update the website again the Tor version will already be available.
What caught my attention is that they use coinjoin, they do not use jambler as many mixers we are used to.They announce a very competitive mixing fee rate
Let's see how it goes. We have 4 active campaigns right now, and looks like more are coming in. Maybe we will see a rate increase soon , as the competition is moving to the forum :)
What caught my attention is that they use coinjoin, they do not use jambler as many mixers we are used to.
Let's see how it goes. We have 4 active campaigns right now, and looks like more are coming in. Maybe we will see a rate increase soon , as the competition is moving to the forum :)
What caught my attention is that they use coinjoin, they do not use jambler as many mixers we are used to.They announce a very competitive mixing fee rate
Let's see how it goes. We have 4 active campaigns right now, and looks like more are coming in. Maybe we will see a rate increase soon , as the competition is moving to the forum :)
Service Fee: 0.7% up to 437% and Network Fee: 0.0003 BTC where is minimum 0.0015 BTC
They have to prove themselves and earn trust. Healthy competition is always a good thing for users.
Very good rate.I still can't understand the fixed network fee for almost all mixers. These days, the mempool is very unloaded, and the network fee is usually 1-5 vb/sat. I think that there is really no need to add this kind of cost to the mixing process, especially with the currently quite high price of BTC.
Personally, I always find most mixers very expensive and most rates abusive... When you compare to services like exch.cx which also enhance your privacy (as you can BTC > XMR > BTC for example), it is much better just to use exch which has like 1/5 - 1/10 of the fees of most mixers. This new mixer has a very competitive fee.
Overall it is good to see the forum attracting new projects at their beginning stage.A few months ago, we saw several new mixers, or at least those that tried to be. Obviously, it is already well known that Altt is the place for their announcement because I haven't seen new mixers on Btt even by mistake. Unfortunately, most of them were short-lived, so of the newly created and still active ones, we only have Jokermix and Swamplizard.
What caught my attention is that they use coinjoin, they do not use jambler as many mixers we are used to.They are only claiming to use CoinjJoin but I doubt they are actually using actual CoinJoin, they are just naming coinmixing that way, and they are not the first one doing that.
Original CoinJoin protocol is decentralized and there is no need to use centralized mixers for that.
I wouild also be very careful with any newly released mixers.
Isn't it a good idea to add such wallets, examplens?Honestly, at some point, new Samurai fork wallets and coordinators suddenly started to appear, so I thought to wait for a certain period for reliable solutions to crystallize. Maybe I could add them to the list in the future.
Some coinjoins are not 100% decentralized, as some of them have centralized coordinators (such as wasabi).There are not ''some'' coinjoins, it's just one coinjoin, and that is decentralized... that is not related with coordinators.
Honestly, at some point, new Samurai fork wallets and coordinators suddenly started to appear, so I thought to wait for a certain period for reliable solutions to crystallize. Maybe I could add them to the list in the future.Samurai didn't have same coordinators like Wasabi or Ginger wallet, since they used different implementation of Coinjoin - Whirlpool.
Some coinjoins are not 100% decentralized, as some of them have centralized coordinators (such as wasabi).There are not ''some'' coinjoins, it's just one coinjoin, and that is decentralized... that is not related with coordinators.
The idea can also be used more casually. When you want to make a payment, find someone else who also wants to make a payment and make a joint payment together. Doing so doesn't increase privacy much, but it actually makes your transaction smaller and thus easier on the network (and lower in fees); the extra privacy is a perk.
Such a transaction is externally indistinguishable from a transaction created through conventional use. Because of this, if these transactions become widespread they improve the privacy even of people who do not use them, because no longer will input co-joining be strong evidence of common control.
There are many variations of this idea possible, and all can coexist because the idea requires no changes to the Bitcoin system. Let a thousand flowers bloom: we can have diversity in ways of accomplishing this and learn the best.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.0
It was initially proposed by gmaxwell in BTT back in 2013, and is simple to mix the UTXO with other coinjoin participants. He also says there are many possible variations of the method.Yes I know but we saw only two variations in real life, that is Wasabi and Samourai, and they often acted hostile to each other.
There are too many new wallets, and not all of them are trustworthy.
You can point to https://bitmixlist.org/ because there is a lot of material about Bitcoin mixers, from how everything works to the interpretation of regulations and the legality of mixer services.There are too many new wallets, and not all of them are trustworthy.
I think your are not following the discussion, it is actually about Bitcoin mixers, and not wallets. To have a better knowledge of mixers, there are many platforms to learn about mixers and you can obtain some lessons on Google search.
Hey everyone,Glad everything is ok. I hope you didn't get your coins too late.
I used Anonymixer’s services today, and they sent me a transaction with a very low fee of 2 sat/byte. Now it’s unclear when I’ll actually receive it, but I needed the money today. I emailed them, but no response so far—maybe they’ll see this here.
UPDATE I got money
i found now this amazing pageYes, it seems that navigation on this forum is more complicated than what we are used to. You can see this in your forum award contest, where the voting thread is almost invisible. :(
We have a new mixer around, Genesis mixer.Do you have any links for this mixer?
After rombomix exit scam, I advice you to be careful before adding new mixers to your list examplens. Wait for a few days before adding it.
They have started a small review campaign, lets see if they will have another rounds
We have a new mixer around, Genesis mixer.For now, it seems the team behind genesismix is well acquainted with how the forum works.
After rombomix exit scam, I advice you to be careful before adding new mixers to your list examplens. Wait for a few days before adding it.
They have started a small review campaign, lets see if they will have another rounds
Do you have any links for this mixer?website is: https://genesismix.cx/
I didn't saw this campaign, but I totally agree with you that everyone should be careful with this and all other new mixers, we don't know how genuine they are.
Review campaigns are fine, but they are not guarantee that some service will be good in future.
website is: https://genesismix.cx/
Their ANN: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328313.0
Review campaign 1: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328455.0
Review campaign 2: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328524.0
I am confused about this review 1. I missed it.As far as I understand, the first review campaign was designed to encourage users to write about their experience with this mixer, and the team would reward the best feedback. It is open to all genesismix users, including those outside the forum.
Do you need to create reviews randomly, and then one will get selected by Royse777?
What about the other topic reviews, will they also compete with the ones from the other topic? Confused.;...
website is: https://genesismix.cx/Thank you.
Their ANN: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328313.0
Review campaign 1: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328455.0
Review campaign 2: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328524.0
cryptomixer.ioThis seems strange. Are you sure you set the Time delay and Percentage distribution correctly?
I sent 4 BTC to this mixer but only received 0.1 BTC. What should I do? I sent them an email but no response
cryptomixer.ioDo you have Letter of Guarantee saved as a proof? And are you 100% you used correct cryptomixer website and not some phishing website?
I sent 4 BTC to this mixer but only received 0.1 BTC. What should I do? I sent them an email but no response
cryptomixer.ioThere was another complaint about this mixer but on another forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5534634.0
I sent 4 BTC to this mixer but only received 0.1 BTC. What should I do? I sent them an email but no response
Moreover, the customer service did not reply to an email for half a month. I was very anxious and could not contact them.Unfortunately, banning mixers from Btt has significantly disrupted user communication with many mixers. CryptoMixer is one of those who stopped all communication and now it was hard to get any reaction from them.
Unfortunately, banning mixers from Btt has significantly disrupted user communication with many mixers. CryptoMixer is one of those who stopped all communication and now it was hard to get any reaction from them.I don't know if this is true but I heard some mixer representative can still send and receive personal messages in Bitcointalk forum using their accounts.
Unfortunately, banning mixers from Btt has significantly disrupted user communication with many mixers. CryptoMixer is one of those who stopped all communication and now it was hard to get any reaction from them.I don't know if this is true but I heard some mixer representative can still send and receive personal messages in Bitcointalk forum using their accounts.
However, I think in current situation it is better to communicate directly with mixers or talking about them here in AltcoinsTalk forum.
Mixers to be Banned (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476162.0)
* Existing accounts will be banned from posting, but will be allowed to continue sending/receiving PMs for at least a few months so they can settle any business.
† Existing threads will be locked and archived.
They were allowed to send for a few months, I’m not sure if Theymos later made it permanent.I completely overlooked that the possibility of sending a PM is time-limited. Maybe that's the reason why I didn't get any answers.
Here a quote from Theymos’ post.Quote from: theymosMixers to be Banned (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476162.0)
* Existing accounts will be banned from posting, but will be allowed to continue sending/receiving PMs for at least a few months so they can settle any business.
† Existing threads will be locked and archived.
Along with some accusations for Cryptomixer that we have seen here, they are currently also on the list made by Bybit in its fight against Lazarus. This probably raises them to high risk.LOL look at Wasabi wallet on the top of their black list :o
At least that's how it was before, the mixers connected to the Lazarus group will soon be seized.
Bybit are trying to destroy all privacy services in their quest to get back their lost money (for which they are at fault for botching a transaction that large. I mean what were they thinking? Just click "Sign" and "Broadcast"?). They deserve nothing but ridicule for that, as we have already seen from previous episodes that exchanges will behave like wolves if trusted with consumer funds.I think many big centralized exchanges are created like this with weak security on purpose, or they are created by a bunch of amateurs.
We have adjusted, you can update:Updated.
Minimum deposit 0.002 max 3 BTC
Minimum deposit 3 Dash max 100 Dash
We have also changed the fees to be cheaper, you can also remove the 15 sats.
Service fee 1.80% - Round Fee Not Included.
JokerMix.
Whois Record for YoMix.io
How does this work?
Domain Profile
Registrar TLD Registrar Solutions Ltd.
IANA ID: 1564
URL: http://www.tldregistrarsolutions.com
Whois Server: whois.tldregistrarsolutions.com
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Registrar Status clientTransferProhibited
Dates 967 days old
Created on 2022-08-23
Expires on 2026-08-23
Updated on 2025-03-26
Name Servers NS1.PARKINGCREW.NET (has 1,010,454 domains)
NS2.PARKINGCREW.NET (has 1,010,454 domains)
https://whois.domaintools.com/yomix.io
Let me post an update here as well. Yomix.io seems to have gone down in history. The site is unavailable and it seems that the domain is currently owned by the registry (Godaddy) and can be bought by bidding
Although the fraud cases have been ongoing since last year, some archived screenshots show that the service was working last month (I remember being unable to access the site in 2024 and thinking the service had stopped).In the bottom right corner of the page (seen on the screenshot I uploaded earlier) is a link "buy this domain". The link leads to information about the domain broker, which is controlled by GoDaddy.
https://web.archive.org/web/20250307224236/https://yomix.io/en (https://web.archive.org/web/20250307224236/https://yomix.io/en)
onion link: yomixio76f7bnurcrqrhoud5moeu4bvlgukkylixgh2teqllg3mjrqyd DOT onion
So I think they may be back soon.
Although Bitcoin doesn't appear on the list of coins we can use the service with, I think there's a new player in the field.I remember when this account appeared, but we haven't heard much from it. Not about the service or anything, so it's hard to have any opinion. I'm not sure why it's been so silent until now.
https://zeusmix.to
Regarding Yomix, can anyone else try Google search and "yomix" as input?I am getting warning with Metamask that website might be harmful, so website can't be opened, but I did saw several different domains.
It is necessary to have already installed the Metamask extension in the browser.