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Title: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: robelneo on June 14, 2024, 02:39:42 PM
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After the delay of their undisputed light-heavyweight fight because of Beterbiev's injury, they have rescheduled their fight to October 12, 2024. Hopefully, the fight will happen so we can finally see who is the best and greatest light-heavyweight Champion in this generation.

Artur Beterbiev is set to square off against Dmitry Bivol on Saturday, October 12th, 2024, at Kingdom Arena, Riyadh.

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The fight is scheduled for 12 rounds in the Light Heavyweight division, which means the weight limit will be 175 pounds (12.5 stone or 79.4 kg).

This contest is for the undisputed light heavyweight championship of the world, with the The Ring, WBC, IBF, and WBO belts on the line.

https://box.live/fights/bivol-vs-beterbiev/


Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: bisdak40 on June 17, 2024, 01:30:50 PM

After the delay of their undisputed light-heavyweight fight because of Beterbiev's injury, they have rescheduled their fight to October 12, 2024. Hopefully, the fight will happen so we can finally see who is the best and greatest light-heavyweight Champion in this generation.

Yeah, the boxing community is really looking forward to this fight as to know who really is the greatest in the Light Heavyweight category. Personally, it is very hard to predict on who will win this fight, is it the younger champion or the older but the heavy-handed one? Those questions will be answered come October and i'm hoping that there will be no more postponement as Beterbiev is getting older be the day.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: pawel7777 on June 17, 2024, 07:35:01 PM
That's a good news. Hopefully this means the Beterbiev's knee injury was not a very serious one.
The initial odds were almost even 50/50, but now, after Bivol's KO on Zinad and Beterbiev recovering from an injury, Bivol should be a favourite.
Can't wait. It could be better than the Usyk Vs Fury 2.

Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: 0t3p0t on June 18, 2024, 10:02:48 PM
That's a good news. Hopefully this means the Beterbiev's knee injury was not a very serious one.
The initial odds were almost even 50/50, but now, after Bivol's KO on Zinad and Beterbiev recovering from an injury, Bivol should be a favourite.
Can't wait. It could be better than the Usyk Vs Fury 2.
The only thing that is a disadvantage for Bivol is his defense which is open while Beterbiev is his age and injury as we all know they are both having the same goal to win the fight and both are power puncher and knockout artist so this fight would be very exciting. These two Russians are monsters when it comes to boxing especially on their division based on what I saw on their previous matches but with Bivol he is having a hard time knocking out Canelo and only win on unanimous decision very interesting.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Baofeng on June 19, 2024, 12:32:46 AM
That's a good news. Hopefully this means the Beterbiev's knee injury was not a very serious one.
The initial odds were almost even 50/50, but now, after Bivol's KO on Zinad and Beterbiev recovering from an injury, Bivol should be a favourite.
Can't wait. It could be better than the Usyk Vs Fury 2.

I think it could be serious as it will take months before the re-scheduled fight. Nevertheless, it will not be on October if Beterbiev is not healthy, 100% free from that knee injuries. Yes, good point, that what might be the odds maker did see, and now they are slightly favorite Bivol as he is the more active and had a win against Zinad while Bivol is coming for a long lay-off.

Potentially, if it live up to the hype, it could be better that Usyk vs Fury or even if it can be fight of the year. And what we like about this boxers is that there will be no excuses, no non-sense fighter that will just go out and try to get the head of each other, so to speak.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: LogitechMouse on June 19, 2024, 03:02:00 AM
I hope Beterbiev will be fully recovered by the time they will face each other in the boxing ring.
Since the Crawford-Spence and the Fury-Wilder fights, this is the one that I'm waiting for quite a while.

It's a battle of speed and power. Beterbiev as we all know has a 100% Knock Out rate, and that's what makes him dangerous because that record alone is enough proof that he has a very powerful punch. As per his highlights on YouTube, he isn't throwing that many punches but when he throws, it has a lot of power. On the other hand, Bivol is quicker than him, and... that's it. I can't say anything with regards to him because Beterbiev for me is better in most of the aspects.

If this will happen with no injuries hindering whatsoever, this fight can be a candidate for the "Fight of the Year" alongside the Fury-Usyk 1 & 2. :D As per my predictions, I will go with Beterbiev with this one, but this might be the time where his 100% Knockout rate will become 96% because I doubt that he can knock Bivol down. Beterbiev by decision.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: robelneo on June 19, 2024, 07:46:33 PM
That's a good news. Hopefully this means the Beterbiev's knee injury was not a very serious one.
The initial odds were almost even 50/50, but now, after Bivol's KO on Zinad and Beterbiev recovering from an injury, Bivol should be a favourite.
Can't wait. It could be better than the Usyk Vs Fury 2.

I think it could be serious as it will take months before the re-scheduled fight. Nevertheless, it will not be on October if Beterbiev is not healthy, 100% free from that knee injuries. Yes, good point, that what might be the odds maker did see, and now they are slightly favorite Bivol as he is the more active and had a win against Zinad while Bivol is coming for a long lay-off.

Potentially, if it live up to the hype, it could be better that Usyk vs Fury or even if it can be fight of the year. And what we like about this boxers is that there will be no excuses, no non-sense fighter that will just go out and try to get the head of each other, so to speak.

Beterbiev's doctors are the ones who gave the timeline of the healing of his injury, so we expect it to happen in October, but of course, there's a possibility of the fight being moved again; based on the circumstances, Bivol is the favorite to win the fight because he is well conditioned and fresh between the two, but it will depend on Beterbiev's training and recovery of his injury.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: 0t3p0t on June 19, 2024, 08:29:25 PM
That's a good news. Hopefully this means the Beterbiev's knee injury was not a very serious one.
The initial odds were almost even 50/50, but now, after Bivol's KO on Zinad and Beterbiev recovering from an injury, Bivol should be a favourite.
Can't wait. It could be better than the Usyk Vs Fury 2.

I think it could be serious as it will take months before the re-scheduled fight. Nevertheless, it will not be on October if Beterbiev is not healthy, 100% free from that knee injuries. Yes, good point, that what might be the odds maker did see, and now they are slightly favorite Bivol as he is the more active and had a win against Zinad while Bivol is coming for a long lay-off.

Potentially, if it live up to the hype, it could be better that Usyk vs Fury or even if it can be fight of the year. And what we like about this boxers is that there will be no excuses, no non-sense fighter that will just go out and try to get the head of each other, so to speak.

Beterbiev's doctors are the ones who gave the timeline of the healing of his injury, so we expect it to happen in October, but of course, there's a possibility of the fight being moved again; based on the circumstances, Bivol is the favorite to win the fight because he is well conditioned and fresh between the two, but it will depend on Beterbiev's training and recovery of his injury.
Yeah Bivol really has the advantage given that Beterbiev has force to stop training  because of his knee injury and the timeline of the healing process of his injury and operation really depends on him and his doctor that is why things will I think getting delayed for a while and I don't think Beterbiev's team will allow him to fight in an unprepared or in not a good shape it is a suicide given that his opponent is also a knock out artist.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Baofeng on June 22, 2024, 12:07:12 AM
That's a good news. Hopefully this means the Beterbiev's knee injury was not a very serious one.
The initial odds were almost even 50/50, but now, after Bivol's KO on Zinad and Beterbiev recovering from an injury, Bivol should be a favourite.
Can't wait. It could be better than the Usyk Vs Fury 2.

I think it could be serious as it will take months before the re-scheduled fight. Nevertheless, it will not be on October if Beterbiev is not healthy, 100% free from that knee injuries. Yes, good point, that what might be the odds maker did see, and now they are slightly favorite Bivol as he is the more active and had a win against Zinad while Bivol is coming for a long lay-off.

Potentially, if it live up to the hype, it could be better that Usyk vs Fury or even if it can be fight of the year. And what we like about this boxers is that there will be no excuses, no non-sense fighter that will just go out and try to get the head of each other, so to speak.

Beterbiev's doctors are the ones who gave the timeline of the healing of his injury, so we expect it to happen in October, but of course, there's a possibility of the fight being moved again; based on the circumstances, Bivol is the favorite to win the fight because he is well conditioned and fresh between the two, but it will depend on Beterbiev's training and recovery of his injury.
Yeah Bivol really has the advantage given that Beterbiev has force to stop training  because of his knee injury and the timeline of the healing process of his injury and operation really depends on him and his doctor that is why things will I think getting delayed for a while and I don't think Beterbiev's team will allow him to fight in an unprepared or in not a good shape it is a suicide given that his opponent is also a knock out artist.

Yeah, Bivol could be the favorite in this fight in October as the long layoff plus the age of Beterbiev might be a big factor in this fight. We all know that as we grow old for boxers, they might take the toll and probably this what happen to Beterbiev as he try to push himself in training but then his body responded differently.

But in any case, still a good fight and fans are waiting for it. We haven't seen for a long time a unification fight in LHW. And then we have David Benavidez who says that he wants to challenge the winner here.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: pawel7777 on June 22, 2024, 12:37:22 AM
Does anyone here believe that Beterbiev could win by judges' decision, or is it more of a "KO or nothing" kind of thing?
I can't imagine a scenario when he fails to knock out Bivol and still wins if the fight goes to distance. Bivol is just too technical for that to happen.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Kemarit on June 22, 2024, 01:14:39 AM
Does anyone here believe that Beterbiev could win by judges' decision, or is it more of a "KO or nothing" kind of thing?
I can't imagine a scenario when he fails to knock out Bivol and still wins if the fight goes to distance. Bivol is just too technical for that to happen.

I do agree, maybe this will be the first time that Beterbiev will not score a TKO/KO win against his opponent. Bivol is too big as well and has the reach advantage and throws a bunch of punches in volume that might throw off Beterbiev and can't counter with his power. And that is the secret of Bivol when he beat Canelo, he did throw a lot of hands on Alvarez and before Canelo can counter Bivol is already out of range.

And Beterbiev has a history of starting slow in his fight and then try to catch up in the latter rounds and solely depend on his power. But we will see how he will do if he can't connect to Bivol and then Bivol using his ring IQ and technical skills to outmanuevered Beterbiev and the fight going into the judges score card.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: robelneo on June 22, 2024, 01:05:43 PM
Does anyone here believe that Beterbiev could win by judges' decision, or is it more of a "KO or nothing" kind of thing?
I can't imagine a scenario when he fails to knock out Bivol and still wins if the fight goes to distance. Bivol is just too technical for that to happen.
He has a 100% knock out win. For a boxer with that record, their mind is more interested in a knockout than pacing themselves to gain points, so Bivol will try to earn points in the early rounds to force Beterbiev to be aggressive and go for knockout in the latter rounds.
That has been a Beterbiev thing throughout the fight, and if Bivol can maintain his gas and not avoid Beterbiev's round rally, he will likely win by decision.
So in this fight, if its a knockout, it's going to be Beterbiev, but if it's a decision, Bivol will take the decision.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: bisdak40 on June 23, 2024, 02:49:23 AM
He has a 100% knock out win. For a boxer with that record, their mind is more interested in a knockout than pacing themselves to gain points, so Bivol will try to earn points in the early rounds to force Beterbiev to be aggressive and go for knockout in the latter rounds.
That has been a Beterbiev thing throughout the fight, and if Bivol can maintain his gas and not avoid Beterbiev's round rally, he will likely win by decision.
So in this fight, if its a knockout, it's going to be Beterbiev, but if it's a decision, Bivol will take the decision.

Good point, if this fight ends in a knockout then most probably its a win for Beterbiev as he will go for a knockout as always. That's the exciting part of this match as we never knows who will win in this fight but i'm more inclined to bet for Bivol in this fight because he is the younger of the two.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Baofeng on June 23, 2024, 04:24:51 AM
He has a 100% knock out win. For a boxer with that record, their mind is more interested in a knockout than pacing themselves to gain points, so Bivol will try to earn points in the early rounds to force Beterbiev to be aggressive and go for knockout in the latter rounds.
That has been a Beterbiev thing throughout the fight, and if Bivol can maintain his gas and not avoid Beterbiev's round rally, he will likely win by decision.
So in this fight, if its a knockout, it's going to be Beterbiev, but if it's a decision, Bivol will take the decision.

Good point, if this fight ends in a knockout then most probably its a win for Beterbiev as he will go for a knockout as always. That's the exciting part of this match as we never knows who will win in this fight but i'm more inclined to bet for Bivol in this fight because he is the younger of the two.

Beterbiev is a knockout artist and so yeah, if there will be a winner that will score a knockout, it will be him. But I do agree that Bivol is going to be the favorite or is already the favorite as of this day.

He looks fresh and ready to go and he is impressive in his last fight and still the Bivol that we know that defeated Canelo already. Plus the age, it could be a big factor as well in this fight.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: LogitechMouse on June 23, 2024, 05:14:17 AM
He has a 100% knock out win. For a boxer with that record, their mind is more interested in a knockout than pacing themselves to gain points, so Bivol will try to earn points in the early rounds to force Beterbiev to be aggressive and go for knockout in the latter rounds.
That has been a Beterbiev thing throughout the fight, and if Bivol can maintain his gas and not avoid Beterbiev's round rally, he will likely win by decision.
So in this fight, if its a knockout, it's going to be Beterbiev, but if it's a decision, Bivol will take the decision.

Good point, if this fight ends in a knockout then most probably its a win for Beterbiev as he will go for a knockout as always. That's the exciting part of this match as we never knows who will win in this fight but i'm more inclined to bet for Bivol in this fight because he is the younger of the two.

Beterbiev is a knockout artist and so yeah, if there will be a winner that will score a knockout, it will be him. But I do agree that Bivol is going to be the favorite or is already the favorite as of this day.

He looks fresh and ready to go and he is impressive in his last fight and still the Bivol that we know that defeated Canelo already. Plus the age, it could be a big factor as well in this fight.
I've watched some predictions coming from different fighters, and analysts in YouTube, and it's pretty much even.
I mean some are rooting for Beterbiev, and some are rooting for Bivol.

This is one of those fights that you will not know who the winner will be just by looking at their past fights and records alone. It's hard to know who the winner on will be this one. One fighter is one of the best when it comes to power punches while the other is one of the best in defensive tactics, and jabs as well. Like what you said though, Bivol is as fresh as we saw against Zinad and Beterbiev's age is coping up as he gets more injured (just like what happened that cause postponement).

Either way, I consider this fight a "fight of the year" candidate already.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: robelneo on June 26, 2024, 07:03:53 PM
He has a 100% knock out win. For a boxer with that record, their mind is more interested in a knockout than pacing themselves to gain points, so Bivol will try to earn points in the early rounds to force Beterbiev to be aggressive and go for knockout in the latter rounds.
That has been a Beterbiev thing throughout the fight, and if Bivol can maintain his gas and not avoid Beterbiev's round rally, he will likely win by decision.
So in this fight, if its a knockout, it's going to be Beterbiev, but if it's a decision, Bivol will take the decision.

Good point, if this fight ends in a knockout then most probably its a win for Beterbiev as he will go for a knockout as always. That's the exciting part of this match as we never knows who will win in this fight but i'm more inclined to bet for Bivol in this fight because he is the younger of the two.

Beterbiev is a knockout artist and so yeah, if there will be a winner that will score a knockout, it will be him. But I do agree that Bivol is going to be the favorite or is already the favorite as of this day.

He looks fresh and ready to go and he is impressive in his last fight and still the Bivol that we know that defeated Canelo already. Plus the age, it could be a big factor as well in this fight.
I've watched some predictions coming from different fighters, and analysts in YouTube, and it's pretty much even.
I mean some are rooting for Beterbiev, and some are rooting for Bivol.

This is one of those fights that you will not know who the winner will be just by looking at their past fights and records alone. It's hard to know who the winner on will be this one. One fighter is one of the best when it comes to power punches while the other is one of the best in defensive tactics, and jabs as well. Like what you said though, Bivol is as fresh as we saw against Zinad and Beterbiev's age is coping up as he gets more injured (just like what happened that cause postponement).

Either way, I consider this fight a "fight of the year" candidate already.

If Beterbiev is fully healed and has trained properly then this could become the fight of the year as both men are equal in strength, it's hard to score this fight just hope it will not become another Crawford - Spence where both are champions and undefeated but Crawford overwhelmed Spence nobody expects an easy fight on that fight but it happened .
We hope its different on this fight and we get to see an exciting fight worthy of fight of the year.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: bisdak40 on June 27, 2024, 02:53:05 AM
If Beterbiev is fully healed and has trained properly then this could become the fight of the year as both men are equal in strength, it's hard to score this fight just hope it will not become another Crawford - Spence where both are champions and undefeated but Crawford overwhelmed Spence nobody expects an easy fight on that fight but it happened .
We hope its different on this fight and we get to see an exciting fight worthy of fight of the year.

With the fight postponed to October, i think that is a lot of time for Beterbiev to recover from his injuries and be healthy as this fight is one of those anticipated by the hard core fans of this sweet science. Hope this will not be like the Manny vs Money fight where Manny has a problem with his shoulder and only reveal that after the fight. I agree, this one is a candidate for the fight of the year.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Kemarit on June 27, 2024, 03:43:17 AM
If Beterbiev is fully healed and has trained properly then this could become the fight of the year as both men are equal in strength, it's hard to score this fight just hope it will not become another Crawford - Spence where both are champions and undefeated but Crawford overwhelmed Spence nobody expects an easy fight on that fight but it happened .
We hope its different on this fight and we get to see an exciting fight worthy of fight of the year.

With the fight postponed to October, i think that is a lot of time for Beterbiev to recover from his injuries and be healthy as this fight is one of those anticipated by the hard core fans of this sweet science. Hope this will not be like the Manny vs Money fight where Manny has a problem with his shoulder and only reveal that after the fight. I agree, this one is a candidate for the fight of the year.

With the long postponement, for sure Beterbiev will be healthy that time and there should be no excuses from him if he lost. Same with Bivol, he has waited for this fight for so long, and when the fight was rescheduled, he did take on a get busy and tune up fight and we see him as ready as hell, 100% to go against Beterbiev.

You're right, most anticipated fight and hopefully it can live up to the hype and it so back and forth between the two Russians, it could be a candidate for Fight-of-the-Year.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Baofeng on July 24, 2024, 02:15:53 PM
If Beterbiev is fully healed and has trained properly then this could become the fight of the year as both men are equal in strength, it's hard to score this fight just hope it will not become another Crawford - Spence where both are champions and undefeated but Crawford overwhelmed Spence nobody expects an easy fight on that fight but it happened .
We hope its different on this fight and we get to see an exciting fight worthy of fight of the year.

With the fight postponed to October, i think that is a lot of time for Beterbiev to recover from his injuries and be healthy as this fight is one of those anticipated by the hard core fans of this sweet science. Hope this will not be like the Manny vs Money fight where Manny has a problem with his shoulder and only reveal that after the fight. I agree, this one is a candidate for the fight of the year.

With the long postponement, for sure Beterbiev will be healthy that time and there should be no excuses from him if he lost. Same with Bivol, he has waited for this fight for so long, and when the fight was rescheduled, he did take on a get busy and tune up fight and we see him as ready as hell, 100% to go against Beterbiev.

You're right, most anticipated fight and hopefully it can live up to the hype and it so back and forth between the two Russians, it could be a candidate for Fight-of-the-Year.

Fighters are good based on their last fight, and so far these two are still on top, although Beterbiev is coming from a injury But yeah, if it heals right then he will see him as if nothing has change. Same with Bivol who had his get busy fight and won and so he is the freshier of the two but the power department, Bivol has the advantage.

And what makes this figh interesting is that David Benavidez is waiting on the wings and will challenge the winner. He can't wait for Canelo Alvarez as he has Berlanga this September. So another great fighti in the horizon for the light heavyweight and maybe next year it will happen ,winner vs Benavidez.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: pawel7777 on July 24, 2024, 11:44:37 PM
I can't wait, I think, from a pure sports perspective, this fight could be better than the Fury Vs Usyk one.

With the long postponement, for sure Beterbiev will be healthy that time and there should be no excuses from him if he lost. Same with Bivol, he has waited for this fight for so long, and when the fight was rescheduled, he did take on a get busy and tune up fight and we see him as ready as hell, 100% to go against Beterbiev.

The postponement definitely worked better for Bivol. He stayed healthy and active and managed to score a KO against a lower-ranked but undefeated opponent, which will boost his confidence. Even if Betrbiev recovers to 100%, he will still be behind in terms of preparation. Unless he spent that time thoroughly analysing every aspect of Bivol's game and playing out the fight in his head - then who knows...
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Jating on August 13, 2024, 05:03:30 AM
If Beterbiev is fully healed and has trained properly then this could become the fight of the year as both men are equal in strength, it's hard to score this fight just hope it will not become another Crawford - Spence where both are champions and undefeated but Crawford overwhelmed Spence nobody expects an easy fight on that fight but it happened .
We hope its different on this fight and we get to see an exciting fight worthy of fight of the year.

With the fight postponed to October, i think that is a lot of time for Beterbiev to recover from his injuries and be healthy as this fight is one of those anticipated by the hard core fans of this sweet science. Hope this will not be like the Manny vs Money fight where Manny has a problem with his shoulder and only reveal that after the fight. I agree, this one is a candidate for the fight of the year.

Yes, I think he was really given a good amount of time to recover so that he is 100% and there could be no excuses from both camp on whoever losses in this big fight. Although as what the crypto based sports betting site put, Bivol is now a clear favorite unlike when the fight was announce and base on the original fight date, it's almost 50-50. So for boxing fans, a ML bet is already that much appealing, and I don't see any knockout going to occur here as Bivol has also a good chin and knows how to play defense.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: bisdak40 on August 13, 2024, 07:07:22 AM
If Beterbiev is fully healed and has trained properly then this could become the fight of the year as both men are equal in strength, it's hard to score this fight just hope it will not become another Crawford - Spence where both are champions and undefeated but Crawford overwhelmed Spence nobody expects an easy fight on that fight but it happened .
We hope its different on this fight and we get to see an exciting fight worthy of fight of the year.

With the fight postponed to October, i think that is a lot of time for Beterbiev to recover from his injuries and be healthy as this fight is one of those anticipated by the hard core fans of this sweet science. Hope this will not be like the Manny vs Money fight where Manny has a problem with his shoulder and only reveal that after the fight. I agree, this one is a candidate for the fight of the year.

Yes, I think he was really given a good amount of time to recover so that he is 100% and there could be no excuses from both camp on whoever losses in this big fight. Although as what the crypto based sports betting site put, Bivol is now a clear favorite unlike when the fight was announce and base on the original fight date, it's almost 50-50. So for boxing fans, a ML bet is already that much appealing, and I don't see any knockout going to occur here as Bivol has also a good chin and knows how to play defense.

What makes this fight interesting is that we really don't know who has the clear advantage over the other. Though Beterbiev have KOed all his opponents but Bivol in this fight we got to see on how Bivol will play his defense strategy to avoid those power punches of Beterbiev while engaging and trying to hurt the latter with his own arsenal as well.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Baofeng on August 13, 2024, 12:02:11 PM
If Beterbiev is fully healed and has trained properly then this could become the fight of the year as both men are equal in strength, it's hard to score this fight just hope it will not become another Crawford - Spence where both are champions and undefeated but Crawford overwhelmed Spence nobody expects an easy fight on that fight but it happened .
We hope its different on this fight and we get to see an exciting fight worthy of fight of the year.

With the fight postponed to October, i think that is a lot of time for Beterbiev to recover from his injuries and be healthy as this fight is one of those anticipated by the hard core fans of this sweet science. Hope this will not be like the Manny vs Money fight where Manny has a problem with his shoulder and only reveal that after the fight. I agree, this one is a candidate for the fight of the year.

Yes, I think he was really given a good amount of time to recover so that he is 100% and there could be no excuses from both camp on whoever losses in this big fight. Although as what the crypto based sports betting site put, Bivol is now a clear favorite unlike when the fight was announce and base on the original fight date, it's almost 50-50. So for boxing fans, a ML bet is already that much appealing, and I don't see any knockout going to occur here as Bivol has also a good chin and knows how to play defense.

What makes this fight interesting is that we really don't know who has the clear advantage over the other. Though Beterbiev have KOed all his opponents but Bivol in this fight we got to see on how Bivol will play his defense strategy to avoid those power punches of Beterbiev while engaging and trying to hurt the latter with his own arsenal as well.

This is still very much a 50/50 fight in my opinion. Beterbiev has the advantage on power, but it seems that age might have catch up with him, and he will be coming from a long layoff and from injuries so that might play a factor in this big fight.

On the other hand, Bivol is fresh from his last fight as he dominated it, and then we won't forget how he beat Canelo, with volume and accuracy and footwork. So it will show here against Beterbiev and going to be hard for Beterbiev to hit that moving target if Bivol shows his speed and boxing IQ.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Baofeng on September 26, 2024, 02:36:12 PM
I have to dig deeper to find this topic, Lol,

(https://img.youtube.com/vi/dxypNPkc_SU/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxypNPkc_SU)

I have posted it in the other community, but for sure it might caught your attention because I haven't seen this kind of promotions. Do you guys get pump up seeing this one and wanted to see the fight right away?

That is the same feeling when I watch this promotion..  ;D
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: bisdak40 on September 27, 2024, 03:23:00 AM
I have to dig deeper to find this topic, Lol,

~snip~

I have posted it in the other community, but for sure it might caught your attention because I haven't seen this kind of promotions. Do you guys get pump up seeing this one and wanted to see the fight right away?

That is the same feeling when I watch this promotion..  ;D

Very good promotion and they deserve this trailer as if they are both actors in real life. Damn, if only this is a movie, i would watch this even if this would last four hours hehe.

Meanwhile, the odds are shifting and Bivol is now the slight favorite to win this match-up.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Jating on September 27, 2024, 02:43:41 PM
I have to dig deeper to find this topic, Lol,

~snip~

I have posted it in the other community, but for sure it might caught your attention because I haven't seen this kind of promotions. Do you guys get pump up seeing this one and wanted to see the fight right away?

That is the same feeling when I watch this promotion..  ;D

Very good promotion and they deserve this trailer as if they are both actors in real life. Damn, if only this is a movie, i would watch this even if this would last four hours hehe.

Meanwhile, the odds are shifting and Bivol is now the slight favorite to win this match-up.

Yes, and you know that they really take the time to make this trailer for us fans, so we should be appreciating this kind of promotion and it is being said that they have raise the standards as far as promoting a fight moving forward.

And so we have to thank HE Turki Alalshikh, and true to his words, he is going to make great fights and he will be the biggest influence in boxing in the next 10 years. As he is now a visionary and change the beloved sports that we love.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: robelneo on September 28, 2024, 01:03:17 PM
I have to dig deeper to find this topic, Lol,

~snip~

I have posted it in the other community, but for sure it might caught your attention because I haven't seen this kind of promotions. Do you guys get pump up seeing this one and wanted to see the fight right away?

That is the same feeling when I watch this promotion..  ;D

Very good promotion and they deserve this trailer as if they are both actors in real life. Damn, if only this is a movie, i would watch this even if this would last four hours hehe.

Meanwhile, the odds are shifting and Bivol is now the slight favorite to win this match-up.

Yes, and you know that they really take the time to make this trailer for us fans, so we should be appreciating this kind of promotion and it is being said that they have raise the standards as far as promoting a fight moving forward.

And so we have to thank HE Turki Alalshikh, and true to his words, he is going to make great fights and he will be the biggest influence in boxing in the next 10 years. As he is now a visionary and change the beloved sports that we love.

The trailer is great I'm sure the opening and introduction will be better, They deserve to have this kind of trailer and introduction because they have bragging rights as great champions.

If they put up a fight that people will expect them to be, we have the making of the fight of the year, Its too early to tell about a rematch, but I'm anticipated that they will have a rematch and a possible trilogy
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Kemarit on September 29, 2024, 07:53:41 AM
^^ That was the grand plan of HE Turki Alalshikh. He had a lot of great fights in the pipeline, whether the fight is going to be held in Saudi or in the US. And it's not just boxing, I even see a trailer similar to this in tennis, wherein the best 6 top players are going to play against each other.

Whether we like what he is doing, we really can't take it away as they have a lot of money at this disposal. So as boxing fans, we could only imagine great fights that they are going to do in the future.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: bisdak40 on October 01, 2024, 10:27:41 AM
I came across a post on another forum mentioning that Dmitry Bivol and his wife are experiencing a challenging divorce. It was also stated that Bivol’s wife is suing him for physical and verbal abuse.

Do you think this situation will mentally affect his preparation for his fight against Beterbiev?

Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Baofeng on October 02, 2024, 01:20:44 PM
I came across a post on another forum mentioning that Dmitry Bivol and his wife are experiencing a challenging divorce. It was also stated that Bivol’s wife is suing him for physical and verbal abuse.

Do you think this situation will mentally affect his preparation for his fight against Beterbiev?

Nah, I do not think that it will be a hindrance for Bivol, this are elite athletes and they know how to shutdown all the noises from behind and still perform at their best performance.

So for me, it doesn't matter, on the other hand, Bivol might vent all his frustrations against Beterbiev here. Ryan also went on a nasty divorce when he fought Haney, and even the mother was in cancer if I'm not mistaken and Ryan still win the fight.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: bisdak40 on October 03, 2024, 04:17:43 AM
I came across a post on another forum mentioning that Dmitry Bivol and his wife are experiencing a challenging divorce. It was also stated that Bivol’s wife is suing him for physical and verbal abuse.

Do you think this situation will mentally affect his preparation for his fight against Beterbiev?

Nah, I do not think that it will be a hindrance for Bivol, this are elite athletes and they know how to shutdown all the noises from behind and still perform at their best performance.

So for me, it doesn't matter, on the other hand, Bivol might vent all his frustrations against Beterbiev here. Ryan also went on a nasty divorce when he fought Haney, and even the mother was in cancer if I'm not mistaken and Ryan still win the fight.

I agree with you, mate. I believe this issue won’t impact Bivol’s training. As an elite boxer, he’s professional enough to handle the situation. You’re right; there have been fighters who faced similar challenges and still managed to overcome them and win their fights.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: target on October 03, 2024, 07:13:19 AM


Bivol doesn't look like he has greater KO power but he won against Canelo which I guess he can also take the strikes from Beterbiev. This fight would probably be won by Bivol by UD.

I have not followed the status of these Russian fighters but most likely Beterbiev has slowdown already being 40 and has come out of injury.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Baofeng on October 03, 2024, 11:49:50 AM
I came across a post on another forum mentioning that Dmitry Bivol and his wife are experiencing a challenging divorce. It was also stated that Bivol’s wife is suing him for physical and verbal abuse.

Do you think this situation will mentally affect his preparation for his fight against Beterbiev?

Nah, I do not think that it will be a hindrance for Bivol, this are elite athletes and they know how to shutdown all the noises from behind and still perform at their best performance.

So for me, it doesn't matter, on the other hand, Bivol might vent all his frustrations against Beterbiev here. Ryan also went on a nasty divorce when he fought Haney, and even the mother was in cancer if I'm not mistaken and Ryan still win the fight.

I agree with you, mate. I believe this issue won’t impact Bivol’s training. As an elite boxer, he’s professional enough to handle the situation. You’re right; there have been fighters who faced similar challenges and still managed to overcome them and win their fights.

Yes, mate, he is professional and I do not see anything standing between him and the unified belt, except Beterbiev. So he is zone in this fight and I will take him to win by UD based on his previous fights and the way he bet Canelo.

Not unless he was caught by Beterbiev and his glass chin was exposed. However, we have seen him protecting his chin against Canelo and even if he gets him, he absorb it and then throw even more.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Jating on October 03, 2024, 01:33:42 PM


Bivol doesn't look like he has greater KO power but he won against Canelo which I guess he can also take the strikes from Beterbiev. This fight would probably be won by Bivol by UD.

As per boxrec, https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/703924, his KO is 52.17%. While Beterbiev, 20 out of 20 KO, and so 100%. However, he should be coming from a injury and that is why Bivol is now the favorite here. And base on his ko, decent power, but against Canelo, he average 59 punches per round, landing 13. So that is a decent numbers in terms of punches throw and connects.

And that is why some bettors are going for him based on that stat and could be winning by a majority decision in this fight. As you have said as well, Beterbiev is 40 years old and this could be the first fight that we might have seen him being affected by this age as he might have a hard time trying to counter Bivol.

Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: robelneo on October 03, 2024, 05:50:35 PM

As per boxrec, https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/703924, his KO is 52.17%. While Beterbiev, 20 out of 20 KO, and so 100%. However, he should be coming from a injury and that is why Bivol is now the favorite here. And base on his ko, decent power, but against Canelo, he average 59 punches per round, landing 13. So that is a decent numbers in terms of punches throw and connects.

And that is why some bettors are going for him based on that stat and could be winning by a majority decision in this fight. As you have said as well, Beterbiev is 40 years old and this could be the first fight that we might have seen him being affected by this age as he might have a hard time trying to counter Bivol.
If Beterbiev is still young and does not come from injury, its easy to judge who will win this fight, but a long-lay off and injury will somewhat have an effect on his training, and if he is fighting an average fighter and not someone who like him is an undefeated champion, it will be a walk in the park for Beterbiev.

So I see this fight, as more challenging than Bivol, who is also facing a divorce issue that he can easily shrug off.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: bisdak40 on October 09, 2024, 07:03:05 AM


Bivol doesn't look like he has greater KO power but he won against Canelo which I guess he can also take the strikes from Beterbiev. This fight would probably be won by Bivol by UD.

As per boxrec, https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/703924, his KO is 52.17%. While Beterbiev, 20 out of 20 KO, and so 100%. However, he should be coming from a injury and that is why Bivol is now the favorite here. And base on his ko, decent power, but against Canelo, he average 59 punches per round, landing 13. So that is a decent numbers in terms of punches throw and connects.

And that is why some bettors are going for him based on that stat and could be winning by a majority decision in this fight. As you have said as well, Beterbiev is 40 years old and this could be the first fight that we might have seen him being affected by this age as he might have a hard time trying to counter Bivol.

I believe age will significantly impact Beterbiev in this fight, so I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol. Bivol seems to have an advantage in terms of volume punching, as evidenced by his fight with Canelo. On the other hand, Beterbiev has never gone the distance, with all his fights ending in knockouts.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: robelneo on October 09, 2024, 06:58:06 PM

I believe age will significantly impact Beterbiev in this fight, so I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol. Bivol seems to have an advantage in terms of volume punching, as evidenced by his fight with Canelo. On the other hand, Beterbiev has never gone the distance, with all his fights ending in knockouts.
I have not seen Beterbiev show signs of aging prior to suffering from injury, but if you came from injury and your body is aging, it will have an impact on your conditioning and fight if it goes the distance, I see Beterbiev looking for a quick knockout while Bivol will try to extend the fight and make his move in the latter rounds, if it goes to the championship rounds like rounds 10 to 12, I have Bivol winning by decision.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: bisdak40 on October 10, 2024, 08:32:24 AM

I believe age will significantly impact Beterbiev in this fight, so I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol. Bivol seems to have an advantage in terms of volume punching, as evidenced by his fight with Canelo. On the other hand, Beterbiev has never gone the distance, with all his fights ending in knockouts.
I have not seen Beterbiev show signs of aging prior to suffering from injury, but if you came from injury and your body is aging, it will have an impact on your conditioning and fight if it goes the distance, I see Beterbiev looking for a quick knockout while Bivol will try to extend the fight and make his move in the latter rounds, if it goes to the championship rounds like rounds 10 to 12, I have Bivol winning by decision.

I agree that the longer the fight goes on, the more it favors Bivol. Therefore, you’re right that Beterbiev will likely try to hurt or knock out Bivol early. However, the question remains whether he can hurt the resilient Bivol. Bookmakers are suggesting that this fight might go the distance, as reflected in the odds they’ve released. So, if you’re a Bivol fan, it might be wise to wait for the odds on Bivol winning by decision, as they haven’t been released yet.

Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 10, 2024, 10:14:29 AM


Bivol doesn't look like he has greater KO power but he won against Canelo which I guess he can also take the strikes from Beterbiev. This fight would probably be won by Bivol by UD.

I have not followed the status of these Russian fighters but most likely Beterbiev has slowdown already being 40 and has come out of injury.
He doesn't need to Knock out his opponents in order to win. What he needs is points and he's good at it. He's good at throwing jabs, he's athletic, he's also one of the best in defense, and we've seen how he toyed Canelo when they fought.

I'm not saying that he can do it against Beterbiev though, but we will see Bivol moving here and there waiting for that counter punch because he doesn't want to go head to head with a boxer that has a 100% KO success rate. As for the injury, this is also the reason why I'm rooting on Bivol right now to win. Also add the age as a factor on this one as well. Whatever happens, this fight has a high chance that it will end up as a decision. In some gambling sites, Beterbiev is the underdog just for context.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Jating on October 10, 2024, 02:13:27 PM


Bivol doesn't look like he has greater KO power but he won against Canelo which I guess he can also take the strikes from Beterbiev. This fight would probably be won by Bivol by UD.

As per boxrec, https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/703924, his KO is 52.17%. While Beterbiev, 20 out of 20 KO, and so 100%. However, he should be coming from a injury and that is why Bivol is now the favorite here. And base on his ko, decent power, but against Canelo, he average 59 punches per round, landing 13. So that is a decent numbers in terms of punches throw and connects.

And that is why some bettors are going for him based on that stat and could be winning by a majority decision in this fight. As you have said as well, Beterbiev is 40 years old and this could be the first fight that we might have seen him being affected by this age as he might have a hard time trying to counter Bivol.

I believe age will significantly impact Beterbiev in this fight, so I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol. Bivol seems to have an advantage in terms of volume punching, as evidenced by his fight with Canelo. On the other hand, Beterbiev has never gone the distance, with all his fights ending in knockouts.

Yes, and this is the first time that we have heard Beterbiev having a injury going into a fight. And so with that, it's a sign that he is really aging and this could be a very important fight. What if his winning streak ended here? And Bivol is the younger and I think he is bigger and taller than Beterbiev and so this is a very significant advantage as well for him. I'm also favoring Bivol based on that, but I haven't bet yet, maybe in the fight date itself I might pull the trigger.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: bisdak40 on October 11, 2024, 05:02:07 AM


Bivol doesn't look like he has greater KO power but he won against Canelo which I guess he can also take the strikes from Beterbiev. This fight would probably be won by Bivol by UD.

As per boxrec, https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/703924, his KO is 52.17%. While Beterbiev, 20 out of 20 KO, and so 100%. However, he should be coming from a injury and that is why Bivol is now the favorite here. And base on his ko, decent power, but against Canelo, he average 59 punches per round, landing 13. So that is a decent numbers in terms of punches throw and connects.

And that is why some bettors are going for him based on that stat and could be winning by a majority decision in this fight. As you have said as well, Beterbiev is 40 years old and this could be the first fight that we might have seen him being affected by this age as he might have a hard time trying to counter Bivol.

I believe age will significantly impact Beterbiev in this fight, so I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol. Bivol seems to have an advantage in terms of volume punching, as evidenced by his fight with Canelo. On the other hand, Beterbiev has never gone the distance, with all his fights ending in knockouts.

Yes, and this is the first time that we have heard Beterbiev having a injury going into a fight. And so with that, it's a sign that he is really aging and this could be a very important fight. What if his winning streak ended here? And Bivol is the younger and I think he is bigger and taller than Beterbiev and so this is a very significant advantage as well for him. I'm also favoring Bivol based on that, but I haven't bet yet, maybe in the fight date itself I might pull the trigger.

I’m having a hard time deciding who to bet on, but I’m leaning towards Bivol. He’s younger and has excellent leg movement. On the other hand, I think Beterbiev might be less mobile in this fight due to a knee surgery he underwent after sustaining an injury in training.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Baofeng on October 11, 2024, 11:09:50 AM
^^ Yes, when everything seems to be equal, just go on age and pick the younger one. In the final press conference, both are ready, although I think Bivol has the mental advantage as Beterbiev is somewhat affected by Eddie Hearn telling that he is arrogant.

So it's two fold, whether the psyche war is affecting him, or he will used it to motivate itself.

For me Bivol has a good power, not that he can knockout anyone, decent that it can really affect Beterbiev if Bivol is going to throw volumes in every round and not let Beterbiev be comfortable in setting his traps.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Jating on October 11, 2024, 12:19:00 PM

As per boxrec, https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/703924, his KO is 52.17%. While Beterbiev, 20 out of 20 KO, and so 100%. However, he should be coming from a injury and that is why Bivol is now the favorite here. And base on his ko, decent power, but against Canelo, he average 59 punches per round, landing 13. So that is a decent numbers in terms of punches throw and connects.

And that is why some bettors are going for him based on that stat and could be winning by a majority decision in this fight. As you have said as well, Beterbiev is 40 years old and this could be the first fight that we might have seen him being affected by this age as he might have a hard time trying to counter Bivol.
If Beterbiev is still young and does not come from injury, its easy to judge who will win this fight, but a long-lay off and injury will somewhat have an effect on his training, and if he is fighting an average fighter and not someone who like him is an undefeated champion, it will be a walk in the park for Beterbiev.

Yes, if Beterbiev is not that old in this fight, maybe he will be the favorite. But he is like 39 years old and he is coming from a injury. And he has been out for a long time and so that will be a big factor as well as there will be ring rust on him and the moment he has adjusted, it might be too late as Bivol is already leading in the judges scorecard.

So I see this fight, as more challenging than Bivol, who is also facing a divorce issue that he can easily shrug off.

Hopefully, Bivol will not be affected by the divorce issue he is undergoing and focusing on this biggest fight of his career. Winner here will cemented his legacy, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: pawel7777 on October 12, 2024, 12:15:26 AM
Hopefully, Bivol will not be affected by the divorce issue he is undergoing and focusing on this biggest fight of his career. Winner here will cemented his legacy, in my opinion.

I understand the divorce is not that fresh thing, as apparently it was finalised over a year ago.
Anyhow, Bivol looked really sharp and focussed during the press conference and the weight-ins.
I'm fairly confident he will show up prepared and deliver a good show.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Baofeng on October 12, 2024, 05:59:42 AM
Hopefully, Bivol will not be affected by the divorce issue he is undergoing and focusing on this biggest fight of his career. Winner here will cemented his legacy, in my opinion.

I understand the divorce is not that fresh thing, as apparently it was finalised over a year ago.
Anyhow, Bivol looked really sharp and focussed during the press conference and the weight-ins.
I'm fairly confident he will show up prepared and deliver a good show.

Yeah, in the weigh in, Bivol is as focused as ever, because this is the first time that we will see a unification fight in the four belt era. Same with Beterbiev, looks calm but it could be deceiving.

However, I already put my money on Bivol by decision in a hard 12 grueling rounds to win @2.13.

Good luck to all bettors here, and we could only assume that this fight is going to live up to the hype!.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Baofeng on October 13, 2024, 02:09:56 AM
And Beterbiev won the fight, in a split decision, unifying all the belts at Light Heavyweight, scores were 116-112 (Pawel Kardyni), 115-113 (Glenn Feldman) and 114-114 (Manuel Oliver Palomo).

But for me it could have gone either way, I do not see Beterbiev getting Bivol in trouble. So this fight ends in a controversial win by Beterbiev.

Not sure how you guys see this fight, it could also be a draw, in my opinion. Although I have Bivol winning here, and I have heard in some boxing forum that Bivol was robbed here.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: pawel7777 on October 13, 2024, 09:52:02 AM
I mentioned some time ago that betting on Beterbiev winning by decision could be a good idea, as the odds were something around 7.0 (iirc), I wish I followed up with making such bet, but oh well...

Anyhow, I'm not going to pretend I'm good at round scoring, so will withhold from judging if the decision was fair or not, but I thought Bivol did enough to have his hand raised.
Frank Warren agrees and Eddie Hearne was absolutely fuming calling the scoring a joke:


But it is what it is and I think we most likely will see an immediate rematch, as I can't think of any better option for either of them.

Fight highlights for those who missed the fight:

Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 13, 2024, 02:30:20 PM
I mentioned some time ago that betting on Beterbiev winning by decision could be a good idea, as the odds were something around 7.0 (iirc), I wish I followed up with making such bet, but oh well...

Anyhow, I'm not going to pretend I'm good at round scoring, so will withhold from judging if the decision was fair or not, but I thought Bivol did enough to have his hand raised.
Frank Warren agrees and Eddie Hearne was absolutely fuming calling the scoring a joke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJySfnNPbW4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJySfnNPbW4)

But it is what it is and I think we most likely will see an immediate rematch, as I can't think of any better option for either of them.
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I want to put my bet on Bivol, but on the final minute before I sleep, I put my bet on Beterbiev and also, putting my bet that it will last above 10.5 rounds which is obviously the case.

TBH, it's very risky to put a bet on Beterbiev winning by decision knowing that anybody can win on this fight. Well, most of those who had time to watch the full fight is saying that Bivol got robbed which might be the case. What's joke to me is the 116-112 score on one of the judges, and TBH, I thought for a second that this will end up in a split draw but nevertheless, Beterbiev still deserves that win and because of this, a trilogy might be born. :D

Immediate rematch will happen next year, and for sure, many fans are waiting for it. Well, it's a history in the making for Beterbiev as he's the first boxer to unify the 4 belts on Light Heavyweight division.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Zed0X on October 13, 2024, 11:14:26 PM
And Beterbiev won the fight, in a split decision, unifying all the belts at Light Heavyweight, scores were 116-112 (Pawel Kardyni), 115-113 (Glenn Feldman) and 114-114 (Manuel Oliver Palomo).
Isn't that a majority decision, not split?

I didn't watch the fight or made a bet but I've read a lot of discussion about the result on social media. One of which is the fact that even though he lost, Bivol has broken Beterbiev's streak of winning by KO/TKO. Some even suggests that Beterbiev didn't KO Bivol intentionally because he doesn't want to destroy the next king of the division.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: robelneo on October 14, 2024, 07:23:27 PM

I didn't watch the fight or made a bet but I've read a lot of discussion about the result on social media. One of which is the fact that even though he lost, Bivol has broken Beterbiev's streak of winning by KO/TKO. Some even suggests that Beterbiev didn't KO Bivol intentionally because he doesn't want to destroy the next king of the division.
Based on my observation, Bivol won the fight by two rounds but the judges have it differently the boxing community are in agreement that there should be a rematch because Bivol won the fight, which is why His Highness Turki is planning a rematch because he honestly believe that Bivol won the fight by two rounds, so now we will wait for the official announcement of The rematch
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Baofeng on October 15, 2024, 04:00:06 AM
And Beterbiev won the fight, in a split decision, unifying all the belts at Light Heavyweight, scores were 116-112 (Pawel Kardyni), 115-113 (Glenn Feldman) and 114-114 (Manuel Oliver Palomo).
Isn't that a majority decision, not split?

Yes, sorry, I was emotional when I posted that results, Lol, as I have a bet on Bivol to win.

I didn't watch the fight or made a bet but I've read a lot of discussion about the result on social media. One of which is the fact that even though he lost, Bivol has broken Beterbiev's streak of winning by KO/TKO. Some even suggests that Beterbiev didn't KO Bivol intentionally because he doesn't want to destroy the next king of the division.

Nah, I do not think that he intentionally not wanting to knock Bivol out, it's that he can't. And as you can see even up to this day, many are still disgusted of the results, specially that one judges who had Beterbiev winning by 4 points.

And so there are clamour for this judges to be ban from scoring this kind of big fights.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Jating on October 15, 2024, 04:33:43 AM
I think a rematch is deem to happen, the result is very much controversial, the boxing community is still divided as to who wins this fight. There are fans who see Bivol doing enough to win, and on the other hand, Beterbiev won the championship rounds that's why his hands was raised. However, one referee might be watching a different fight,  ;D as the score doesn't look fair. So hopefully, Turki will mandated that this two fighters go at it together again for another dance to settle once and for all who is really the undisputed champion in the LHW division.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: bisdak40 on October 15, 2024, 09:28:59 AM
I think a rematch is deem to happen, the result is very much controversial, the boxing community is still divided as to who wins this fight. There are fans who see Bivol doing enough to win, and on the other hand, Beterbiev won the championship rounds that's why his hands was raised. However, one referee might be watching a different fight,  ;D as the score doesn't look fair. So hopefully, Turki will mandated that this two fighters go at it together again for another dance to settle once and for all who is really the undisputed champion in the LHW division.

I saw a post on social media claiming that HE Turki is unhappy with the result (though I’m not sure if the post is legitimate). It mentioned that he is prepared to arrange a rematch between the two fighters. Considering the fight was well-viewed on PPV and likely profitable for HE Turki, organizing a rematch to settle the controversy might be a good idea.

Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: robelneo on October 15, 2024, 03:19:11 PM
I think a rematch is deem to happen, the result is very much controversial, the boxing community is still divided as to who wins this fight. There are fans who see Bivol doing enough to win, and on the other hand, Beterbiev won the championship rounds that's why his hands was raised. However, one referee might be watching a different fight,  ;D as the score doesn't look fair. So hopefully, Turki will mandated that this two fighters go at it together again for another dance to settle once and for all who is really the undisputed champion in the LHW division.

I saw a post on social media claiming that HE Turki is unhappy with the result (though I’m not sure if the post is legitimate). It mentioned that he is prepared to arrange a rematch between the two fighters. Considering the fight was well-viewed on PPV and likely profitable for HE Turki, organizing a rematch to settle the controversy might be a good idea.
Either way, a rematch is likely to happen if Bivol win the fight There's still going to be a rematch and possibly a trilogy if both fighter have it even on their second match, the match is great and worthy of an encore I'm sure the organizations will choose better judges for this fight because the way many have seen the fight there's lack of fairness in scoring.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: pawel7777 on October 15, 2024, 11:26:40 PM
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Here are the statistics of the total punches thrown and landed for each of them. These seem to be the most quoted ones, so hopefully the most accurate, but I've seen some post-fight video analysis quoting significantly different figures, so who knows.

Either way, it looks like Artur managed to convince judges with the volume alone rather than accuracy. I believe good defence should have been counted in Bivol's favour but it doesn't look like that was the case in this fight.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Zed0X on October 15, 2024, 11:56:35 PM
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Either way, it looks like Artur managed to convince judges with the volume alone rather than accuracy. I believe good defence should have been counted in Bivol's favour but it doesn't look like that was the case in this fight.
It could be. I think it's tough to see if the punches lands on the gloves (when blocked) even for the judges who are near the ring. With the above stats, the decision looks more justified to me now. There seems to be at least two or three rounds that could have gone either way.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: bisdak40 on October 16, 2024, 08:03:33 AM
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Either way, it looks like Artur managed to convince judges with the volume alone rather than accuracy. I believe good defence should have been counted in Bivol's favour but it doesn't look like that was the case in this fight.
It could be. I think it's tough to see if the punches lands on the gloves (when blocked) even for the judges who are near the ring. With the above stats, the decision looks more justified to me now. There seems to be at least two or three rounds that could have gone either way.

The fight could go either way based on Compubox stats; it’s too close to call, making the judges’ job incredibly difficult. However, I don’t understand why the third judge scored the bout 116-112. To settle this controversial fight, a rematch is necessary, and I hope HE Turki will once again make it happen.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Jating on October 16, 2024, 11:42:54 AM
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Either way, it looks like Artur managed to convince judges with the volume alone rather than accuracy. I believe good defence should have been counted in Bivol's favour but it doesn't look like that was the case in this fight.
It could be. I think it's tough to see if the punches lands on the gloves (when blocked) even for the judges who are near the ring. With the above stats, the decision looks more justified to me now. There seems to be at least two or three rounds that could have gone either way.

The fight could go either way based on Compubox stats; it’s too close to call, making the judges’ job incredibly difficult. However, I don’t understand why the third judge scored the bout 116-112. To settle this controversial fight, a rematch is necessary, and I hope HE Turki will once again make it happen.

I do agree, the best is that it should be at least a draw, but that judges favor Beterbiev by 4 points so it looks like very fish to me. But the defense argument, yes, it's really hard to score and it's how the judges see the fight. However, even for a untrained eye, it's easy to see who is going to win every round here. WE all know that judges job are very hard, but sometimes, they shouldn't make things complicated on them. Just watch the fight without bias and they can see who is the rightful winner or it could be just a draw as there are not clear winner as the fight is very close.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: pawel7777 on October 16, 2024, 11:40:02 PM
Eddie Hearn did not hold back in his complaints about how unfair the decision was, but Bivol impressed me a lot by refusing to make any excuses and fully accepting the loss. A similar could be said about Beterbiev, who openly expressed his disappointment with his own performance and with how the fight went down. That's a true sportsmanship.

Both have already said they'd be willing to fight an immediate rematch and frankly, that's the only sensible option in terms of both, the sport challenge and the money.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: robelneo on October 17, 2024, 06:17:39 PM
Eddie Hearn did not hold back in his complaints about how unfair the decision was, but Bivol impressed me a lot by refusing to make any excuses and fully accepting the loss. A similar could be said about Beterbiev, who openly expressed his disappointment with his own performance and with how the fight went down. That's a true sportsmanship.

Both have already said they'd be willing to fight an immediate rematch and frankly, that's the only sensible option in terms of both, the sport challenge and the money.

Eddie Hearn is always been like that, so many of his wards are losing All he wants is to complain, although on this one he had a valid complaint, These two fighters are real fighters they will say no to the boxing community, I wish all boxers are like that so we can excited matches like this.
Honestly, after the Beterbiev win, I like to see him fight Canelo but the call for a rematch is strong and his highness Turki already made an announcement that he wants a rematch so we will have a rematch.
And I believe it will be better than the first one.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: pawel7777 on October 17, 2024, 08:34:49 PM
Regarding the rematch:
- Bivol wants it
- Beterbiev wants it
- Turki Alalshikh wants it and has already said he'll do it if both fighters agree
- none of them will get more money by fighting any other boxer.

BUT, fresh news came out that: Artur Beterbiev has been ordered to defend his undisputed titles against lesser-known IBF mandatory challenger Michael Eifert (https://talksport.com/boxing/2175966/artur-beterbiev-dmitry-bivol-rematch-ibf-michael-eifert/)

I don't know if this is some weird decision by IBF to try to extort some money out of Beterbiev's team or the Saudis, or will they change their stance under the pressure of boxing fans. Alternatively Beterbiev could just drop the IBF belt and maybe try to win it back later.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Baofeng on October 18, 2024, 04:13:47 AM
Regarding the rematch:
- Bivol wants it
- Beterbiev wants it
- Turki Alalshikh wants it and has already said he'll do it if both fighters agree
- none of them will get more money by fighting any other boxer.

And we fans wanted it, and so it can be done by Turki Alalshikh as he is the most powerful broker, he can talk to multiple promoters and they respect him. So I wouldn't be surprised that we will get a positive feedback from him and put a rematch.

BUT, fresh news came out that: Artur Beterbiev has been ordered to defend his undisputed titles against lesser-known IBF mandatory challenger Michael Eifert (https://talksport.com/boxing/2175966/artur-beterbiev-dmitry-bivol-rematch-ibf-michael-eifert/)

I don't know if this is some weird decision by IBF to try to extort some money out of Beterbiev's team or the Saudis, or will they change their stance under the pressure of boxing fans. Alternatively Beterbiev could just drop the IBF belt and maybe try to win it back later.

IBF is a kill joy, Lol, but yes, most likely Beterbiev will likely turn down a fight with a lesser opponent and maybe pay the fine to the IBF. Or maybe his manager will pay forward as it doesn't make sense for him to fight Michael Eifert who is not known to boxing fans.
Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: bisdak40 on October 18, 2024, 04:24:05 AM
I don't know if this is some weird decision by IBF to try to extort some money out of Beterbiev's team or the Saudis, or will they change their stance under the pressure of boxing fans. Alternatively Beterbiev could just drop the IBF belt and maybe try to win it back later.

Given the magnitude of this fight, I believe the IBF will change its stance and allow the rematch between Bivol and Beterbiev to happen, albeit with a smaller purse, as these boxing organizations often capitalize on any opportunity to make money. Fortunately, HE Turki is willing to stage the rematch. In my opinion, he is the only person capable of paying both boxers a substantial amount to face each other.

Title: Re: Bivol - Beterbiev Undisputed Light Heavyweight OCT 12 2024 RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
Post by: Jating on October 18, 2024, 12:20:46 PM
I don't know if this is some weird decision by IBF to try to extort some money out of Beterbiev's team or the Saudis, or will they change their stance under the pressure of boxing fans. Alternatively Beterbiev could just drop the IBF belt and maybe try to win it back later.

Given the magnitude of this fight, I believe the IBF will change its stance and allow the rematch between Bivol and Beterbiev to happen, albeit with a smaller purse, as these boxing organizations often capitalize on any opportunity to make money. Fortunately, HE Turki is willing to stage the rematch. In my opinion, he is the only person capable of paying both boxers a substantial amount to face each other.

Doesn't matter, if they want to strip him then good for Beterbiev. It doesn't matter to him though as he wanted to get the rematch and to show to the world that his win is not a fluke. But if IBF says you better give us some money to step aside our mandatory, then maybe HE Turki will have to pay for that fine. The most important thing for us know is to see the rematch between this two. I will not be surprised that HE Turki might be talking to them already on how to make the fight happen again.