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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Topic started by: admin on September 16, 2024, 01:53:48 PM
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feel free to voice you disagreement with having the news ticker.
first let me defend it:
1- it has strategic importance, as the integration with 365 crypto allows us to get more investors type users and more technical users, both of which we need for our forum to thrive.
2- the ticker is small and is located only on main page, thus not really a big annoyance.
3- it will allow users to stay updated with what's happening.
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The news bar should be 1 line If you are seeing it like bullet points, please press Ctrl +F5 /Ctrl + Refresh/ close reload browser
(https://i.imgur.com/55FX8tf.png)
if it looks otherwise, please reply and show a screenshot
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The way it slides across the screen reminds me of the 1990s, it's annoyng, tacky and the pause button is far from a "stop forever" button which is frustrating. This would be better not moving for starters, followed by being merged side by side with chat where it'd fit well imo. Both the chat & news ticker are too wide, so there is an obvious solution here to split the width of both and have side by side for aesthetic purposes.
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It's a mess in mobile browsers it cover most of the page, as well as clicking the pause button the text remains where it stops and it looks more messier.
Instead of "Pause" button, how about a "Hide" and "Show" button? Give people an option to hide it since there is already "365Crypto a blog for Altt users" text ad in the top of the forum.
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It's a mess in mobile browsers it cover most of the page, as well as clicking the pause button the text remains where it stops and it looks more messier.
Instead of "Pause" button, how about a "Hide" and "Show" button? Give people an option to hide it since there is already "365Crypto a blog for Altt users" text ad in the top of the forum.
it seams it is not rendering correctly due to cache issues
it should look like:
(https://i.imgur.com/55FX8tf.png)
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It's a mess in mobile browsers it cover most of the page, as well as clicking the pause button the text remains where it stops and it looks more messier.
Instead of "Pause" button, how about a "Hide" and "Show" button? Give people an option to hide it since there is already "365Crypto a blog for Altt users" text ad in the top of the forum.
it seams it is not rendering correctly due to cache issues
it should look like:
(https://i.imgur.com/55FX8tf.png)
This makes more sense ;D
Using a chromium-based browser I just law a bullet-point list of around a dozen news topics moving across the screen taking up a lot of space!
If it were a single line moving across the page below the chat I wouldn't be as opposed...
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I don't know what the discussion is for if the decision is final.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/16/BqswN.png)
We recently discussed raising the quality of the forum, now we are getting something opposite. I don't know how others use the forum, but I often go back to the main page to go to another section. So, this function bothers me.
But as I said, your forum, your game. I'm not going to push myself into it any further.
btw. You've removed it now, but I believe most users didn't even see it, so you won't have a larger sample of opinions.
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I don't know what the discussion is for if the decision is final.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/16/BqswN.png)
We recently discussed raising the quality of the forum, now we are getting something opposite. I don't know how others use the forum, but I often go back to the main page to go to another section. So, this function bothers me.
But as I said, your forum, your game. I'm not going to push myself into it any further.
btw. You've removed it now, but I believe most users didn't even see it, so you won't have a larger sample of opinions.
it is coming back after fixing display issue
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I don't know what the discussion is for if the decision is final.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/16/BqswN.png)
We recently discussed raising the quality of the forum, now we are getting something opposite. I don't know how others use the forum, but I often go back to the main page to go to another section. So, this function bothers me.
But as I said, your forum, your game. I'm not going to push myself into it any further.
btw. You've removed it now, but I believe most users didn't even see it, so you won't have a larger sample of opinions.
what kind of display you got ?
a line with scrolling titles, or a bunch of bullet points scrolling at the same time ?
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what kind of display you got ?
a line with scrolling titles, or a bunch of bullet points scrolling at the same time ?
bunch of titles scrolling at the same time
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what kind of display you got ?
a line with scrolling titles, or a bunch of bullet points scrolling at the same time ?
I suggest to remove the scrolling (marquee effect), it's oldy kind of look of a website tbh and it broke the page. A static bullet points is enough and okay, and limit it to 10 titles only.
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check here : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=503.0
and refresh the page
ctrl + refresh
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what kind of display you got ?
a line with scrolling titles, or a bunch of bullet points scrolling at the same time ?
I suggest to remove the scrolling (marquee effect), it's oldy kind of look of a website tbh and it broke the page. A static bullet points is enough and okay, and limit it to 10 titles only.
it's not the scrolling, tested it a 100 times before deploying
it's cloudflare caching old css
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it's not the scrolling, tested it a 100 times before deploying
it's cloudflare caching old css
Renaming the .css file will probably fix that issue, as well as adding the file version.
check here : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=503.0
and refresh the page
ctrl + refresh
Now it looks fine, only the "Pause/Play" button color to make it relative to the forum's themes.
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it's not the scrolling, tested it a 100 times before deploying
it's cloudflare caching old css
Renaming the .css file will probably fix that issue.
i know, but don't want to go into this, checking if there's other options
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To be honest, I don't even like the way this looks, although maybe with some additional settings, it might be acceptable to the majority. My idea would be that if we already have a chat, we could use it to insert news from time to time - it would not be irritating in any case, and everyone could get access to the content from the blog.
Of course, I assume that in this way the links would not have strategic importance, but that's just an idea that came to my mind.
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purged cache, will see if issue solved before redeploy on main
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When i click "Pause" and then click "Play", all current text got removed and start showing again from right side. Is it the intended behavior?
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When i click "Pause" and then click "Play", all current text got removed and start showing again from right side. Is it the intended behavior?
Also, it would be good to add these things to the cache, so I don't have to pause/play after each new opening of the main page. The browser could remember the choice for subsequent visits/refresh.
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When i click "Pause" and then click "Play", all current text got removed and start showing again from right side. Is it the intended behavior?
Also, it would be good to add these things to the cache, so I don't have to pause/play after each new opening of the main page. The browser could remember the choice for subsequent visits/refresh.
is it displaying normally now or still bulk ?
and are you accessing site from pc or mobile ?
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Admin, in my opinion, the idea to link to your new blog is not bad.
However, the design is bad. Too long, too many information, and it doestn fit the page well.
I can't even read the posts you want to show, because they are moving!
Why don`t you make something discrete, which would cycle (only when reloaded) the main articles like this:
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/17/gUk6G.png)
Or jus add it to the news on the far right corner (there is already a "News"). I think you are trying to promote way too much information in the front page....
first let me defend it:
1- it has strategic importance, as the integration with 365 crypto allows us to get more investors type users and more technical users, both of which we need for our forum to thrive.
2- the ticker is small and is located only on main page, thus not really a big annoyance.
3- it will allow users to stay updated with what's happening.
I am sorry, I don't think that you will get the results you are expecting.
looking at the news, there isn't even one technical article. All of them are just other news that you can read elsewhere...
your forum achieved significant growth recently, mostly because BTT left mixers community "homeless".
I don't this is the time to be too bold and make radical changes. The mixers community that just joined the forum made many relevant suggestions, and AFAIK just a few were implemented.
I think it is time to be conservative about forum changes.
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is it displaying normally now or still bulk ?
and are you accessing site from pc or mobile ?
Scrolls in one line. On Chrome on PC and Safari on mobile.
I would agree with bitmover. Too many titles, everything goes too fast and it's quite tiring to follow. However, it is much more acceptable compared to the first version.
If it is possible to avoid scrolling at all, after each refresh there should be a different random article, or the most popular, the newest... For me, it is a completely useless option in this form.
Also, the info "...press Ctrl +F5 or Ctrl + Refresh..." could be more discreet. it is more dominant than scrolling text. Maybe you should put it in some form on-hover hint or something like that.
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your forum achieved significant growth recently, mostly because BTT left mixers community "homeless".
I don't this is the time to be too bold and make radical changes. The mixers community that just joined the forum made many relevant suggestions, and AFAIK just a few were implemented.
Currently, only three mixer signature campaigns are active, with very little activity from mixer owners. Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but doesn't look like forward progress.
I would think more about improving the quality of the forum than about the implementation of promoting a completely new platform. But that's just my opinion.
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I hear you,
but, it is needed to achieve growth
there are 600 million crypto holder, a tiny fraction of them are on btt, and a small fraction of btt users are on our forum
moving forward is not hiding in a shell, it is being bold.
i will later slow the scrolling a bit, and the text above the scroller will be removed in 1 week, when all the css cache would have been updated user side
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articles will improve with time
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Gotta say not a fan of the bright colour, and the text is moving too fast to read comfortably as bitmover said. The suggestion of having it in the top left corner cycling through article titles does sound better to me, but also aware since you've put your effort into making the news ticker that you're not going to change that now.
I think it is time to be conservative about forum changes.
Kind of agree here, we should be consolidating the current growth (as well as the forum itself) rather than trying to capitalise on it too aggressively.
The mixers community that just joined the forum made many relevant suggestions, and AFAIK just a few were implemented.
Where are the suggestions that weren't implemented? I agree it'd be worth implementing these rather than new ideas generally speaking.
Currently, only three mixer signature campaigns are active, with very little activity from mixer owners. Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but doesn't look like forward progress.
I mean it's definitely not backwards compared to previous years, but it's not continuing to grow either.
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i have been on this forum since 2017
i have seen multiple up and down activity cycles
i am convinced there is no magic bullet
most forums die, and usually stay dead, this one died a couple times and was revived, sometimes thanks to strategic decisions i made.
for example: when i allowed btt users to teleport, there was a huge disagreement in the forum, and it lingered a long time, but it did pay off with reviving the forum from death.
sometimes thanks to huge efforts done by our forum team (i specially point to mbah) who brought bounties and convinced bounty managers to launch here.
In general we are always at the mercy of some project giving money for users to be active.
My bet is to reach some of these 600 million users, and hopefully we'll have new blood joining, users that would stick around when bounties dry up.
I am open to feedback and criticism, but trust me on this one.
design issues, sure can be and will be improved: slower, other color sets
other forum modification are required and should be a priority . Yes i agree, but the difference between implementing a simple rss feed fetcher that does not interact and influence existing code, and implementing a system that require modifying existing code and database is big.
scroller took me a weekend to make it work properly, then 4-5 days to actually get it to work on the site.
For the simplest of the requested features, i will have to block a month, and might not even work.
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most forums die, and usually stay dead, this one died a couple times and was revived, sometimes thanks to strategic decisions i made.
for example: when i allowed btt users to teleport, there was a huge disagreement in the forum, and it lingered a long time, but it did pay off with reviving the forum from death.
That was really a very good decision, which made all of the current boom possible.
other forum modification are required and should be a priority . Yes i agree, but the difference between implementing a simple rss feed fetcher that does not interact and influence existing code, and implementing a system that require modifying existing code and database is big.
I think that this is not just about implementing a RSS feed. It is about adding 365crypto feed (which is a project that IMO is not fully function yet, as it lacks authors, community, etc).
You could simple add a feed for a consolidated feed, such as bitcoin magazine. However, I know this is not what you want.
BUt I have not seen true integrations between 365crypto and altcoinstalks. Why not wait for things to be ready? Like one account for both plataforms?
scroller took me a weekend to make it work properly, then 4-5 days to actually get it to work on the site.
For the simplest of the requested features, i will have to block a month, and might not even work.
I understand that this things takes time... as I do some web dev jobs too from time to time...
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I think that this is not just about implementing a RSS feed. It is about adding 365crypto feed (which is a project that IMO is not fully function yet, as it lacks authors, community, etc).
You could simple add a feed for a consolidated feed, such as bitcoin magazine. However, I know this is not what you want.
BUt I have not seen true integrations between 365crypto and altcoinstalks. Why not wait for things to be ready? Like one account for both plataforms?
integration is an objective, but as i said 365 has an objective to bring certain types of users, thus even without integration 365 is valuable as it already is.
no project starts by flying, it will take time to get the needed momentum.
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also for news part, it won't be that important to integrate, as the vast majority of users are probably not qualified to write news posts. And last thing you need is posts about some airdrops that you can get by following a referral link
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Many people has said how messy this appears on the mobile. I have also read the admin's submission on this. I therefore request that whatever things that are to be implemented in this forum, mobile users should be considered. Some things are messy already, adding to them will be annoying. I believe in improvement and here has been in improvement streak since after teleporting from BTT
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Personally, I don't have an issue with the addition of the news ticker. It looks fine on PC but I also don't like how it resets to the beginning when you press play after hitting the pause button. I was expecting it to continue from where I stopped.
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Many people has said how messy this appears on the mobile. I have also read the admin's submission on this. I therefore request that whatever things that are to be implemented in this forum, mobile users should be considered. Some things are messy already, adding to them will be annoying. I believe in improvement and here has been in improvement streak since after teleporting from BTT
the mess is related to css cached on the mobile device,
how does it look ? does it look like the photo i posted ?
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News ticker is interesting addition to forum and some people may like it, but I would like to see collapse/expand function working for this space, so I can hide news when I don't want to read them anymore.
If that is not possible for some reason right now, than I would like to see button STOP, along with PAUSE and PLAY, to permanently stop animation slide distraction.
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how does it look ? does it look like the photo i posted ?
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/18/gdOPN.jpeg)
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My opinion:
A news ticker layout with running text links reduces the design's aesthetics. It seems too forced to get the user's attention to the link.
To read and click on the links listed, you have to stop them first, and the position can be anywhere, such as the following:
(https://i.imgur.com/8UcSK2C.png)
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To read and click on the links listed, you have to stop them first, and the position can be anywhere, such as the following:
Did the refresh trick not work to fix this? I visited the forum without clearing any cache and it works properly. I agree that the moving animation is not really great for readability as of now. A static place such as under a forum post or the ads banner on top of the forum feels like a better place to put the link. Maybe only one or two so they need to cycle them, not sure if that's ideal for the goal that admin wanted to achieve though. Personally, I don't have a problem with this since I don't visit this forum on mobile at all.
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The way it slides across the screen reminds me of the 1990s
Exactly! You want the forum to look modern, or you would have stayed with bitcointalk lol.
I suggest a minimize button on the right, and a cookie to remember the state. This will allow you to impress new users with crypto info, while not annoying experienced users who don't need it.
Admin - keep in mind adding an animated anything to a page reduces the chances it will stay open when multi browsing.
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how does it look ? does it look like the photo i posted ?
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/18/gdOPN.jpeg)
refresh the page, close it open another, see how it should look like, not like this
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My opinion:
A news ticker layout with running text links reduces the design's aesthetics. It seems too forced to get the user's attention to the link.
To read and click on the links listed, you have to stop them first, and the position can be anywhere, such as the following:
(https://i.imgur.com/8UcSK2C.png)
that's the broken design, refresh the page, close the page/browser and visit it again
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Well I haven’t experienced any problems with the news ticker but each time I go to home page of this forum the part warning or instructing us what to do in case of any problems seems to be too big.
I don’t know if it’s just me, but I feel it would have been better if the font of that instruction was reduced a bit.
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Sometimes refreshing even doesn't resolve the issue of bullet points.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/18/gHsAI.png)
Closing the browser worked so if anyone is facing the issue even after the refreshing the page, I suggest you guys to relaunch the browser.
P.S I didn't clear the cache/cookies just closed and opened the browser.
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Closing the browser worked so if anyone is facing the issue even after the refreshing the page, I suggest you guys to relaunch the browser.
P.S I didn't clear the cache/cookies just closed and opened the browser.
That's a forced refresh - same as holding down CTRL and pressing reload
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Well I haven’t experienced any problems with the news ticker...
After Pausing then Play it again the news reset or go back instead of continuing where it stop/pause which i don't think it's a good idea.
I don’t know if it’s just me, but I feel it would have been better if the font of that instruction was reduced a bit.
Same, as well as the colors of text and buttons are not relative to the forum's theme.
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Well I haven’t experienced any problems with the news ticker but each time I go to home page of this forum the part warning or instructing us what to do in case of any problems seems to be too big.
yep it’s definitely too big that it is the first thing that catches my attention even before i actually read the news well anyway it still is in its early stages anyway and admin seems to be just trying it out so i am sure at some point they will solve that
anyway i actually have no issue with this news slider it seems like those headlines in news television except it’s at the top it makes learning about crypto news easier for me but that’s just me if i had any complaint it will just be nitpicking like the color of the font and such
overall i like the idea
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Can we create a setting for Legendary+ users to toggle the news reel to be paused at first, on page load? (disabled by default of course)
The main reason for me being that it uses up my phone's battery life if it's just running non-stop, and there's no reason for me to click on any of the links either given I can just go to 365crypto.org and read them there.
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Can we create a setting for Legendary+ users to toggle the news reel to be paused at first, on page load? (disabled by default of course)
The main reason for me being that it uses up my phone's battery life if it's just running non-stop, and there's no reason for me to click on any of the links either given I can just go to 365crypto.org and read them there.
no it does not use up battery life
the javascript is like many other scripts on the page loaded with the page, the scrolling is just css animation
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To read and click on the links listed, you have to stop them first, and the position can be anywhere, such as the following:
Did the refresh trick not work to fix this? I visited the forum without clearing any cache and it works properly. -snip-
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that's the broken design, refresh the page, close the page/browser and visit it again
I tried refreshing the page and reloading the browser, and I even tried logging out of the Altcoinstalks account, but the result was the same as in the previous screenshot.
The last method is to Clear temporary cached files and pages. Then, it works, and there is a difference in appearance.
(https://i.imgur.com/Cumxikw.png)
When I click the pause button and play again, the text repeats from the beginning on the right. My suggestion is that the running text continues from the position where it last stopped.
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The main reason for me being that it uses up my phone's battery life if it's just running non-stop, and there's no reason for me to click on any of the links either given I can just go to 365crypto.org and read them there.
Yeah I agree with this, little more control would be good to have.
Even if not on mobile device I dont want text with news sliding on my screen every time I open main page on AltcoinsTalks.
I tried hiding this with adblocker but I am getting good results so far.
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I think the instructions to clear cache using F5 can now be safely removed.
"The news bar should be 1 line "
Many time has passed and it is unlikely many new users will find it useful. .. design is already too heavy imo
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no it does not use up battery life
the javascript is like many other scripts on the page loaded with the page, the scrolling is just css animation
I hate to tell ya, but turning pixels on and off on a mobile screen does indeed take energy. :)
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I have a suggestion for this latest news.
It would be nice if the news would stop when the user hover the mouse over it. Makes it easier to read, without clicking the pause button.
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It would be nice if the news would stop when the user hover the mouse over it. Makes it easier to read, without clicking the pause button.
If you really want to stop the movement of news bar just don't go to the main form page, but if you really want to stop it on main page just disable javascript for Altcoinstalks.
There I said it, and it's not that hard to do with a simple click of a button ;)
Note that Chrome based browser are making big changes, so I am suggesting everyone to switch to something else like Tor, Firefox, LibreWolf or Mullvad browser.
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I have a suggestion for this latest news.
It would be nice if the news would stop when the user hover the mouse over it. Makes it easier to read, without clicking the pause button.
It would be enough to just slow down the scroll more significantly, then it would be possible to read it. This is currently tiring my eyes, so I'm not even trying to read.
I would also change the colour from blue to, for example, orange (like the 'home' button), it would seem more harmonious with the forum and certainly more pleasing to the eyes.
If you really want to stop the movement of news bar just don't go to the main form page, but if you really want to stop it on main page just disable javascript for Altcoinstalks.
This will probably impact other things, such as the signature and this animation, which most campaigns currently have.
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This will probably impact other things, such as the signature and this animation, which most campaigns currently have.
Signatures are not affected, they are shown normally with all their movement, like for example in ThorMixer signature.
Only important thing I noticed wont be available is collapse/expand bar on the top right corner, but that is a small price for ''fixed'' news ticker racing track.
You can always disable and enable script with a click of a button.
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This will probably impact other things, such as the signature and this animation, which most campaigns currently have.
Signatures are not affected, they are shown normally with all their movement, like for example in ThorMixer signature.
Only important thing I noticed wont be available is collapse/expand bar on the top right corner, but that is a small price for ''fixed'' news ticker racing track.
You can always disable and enable script with a click of a button.
i think also message notification might be affected, i am surprised chat isn't
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This will probably impact other things, such as the signature and this animation, which most campaigns currently have.
Signatures are not affected, they are shown normally with all their movement, like for example in ThorMixer signature.
Only important thing I noticed wont be available is collapse/expand bar on the top right corner, but that is a small price for ''fixed'' news ticker racing track.
You can always disable and enable script with a click of a button.
For me, so far I have not seen or noticed any issue of any sort with the forum or any part of it, I've tested the pause and play button for the news bar and it works really well, only two things I noticed which I wish can be adjusted by admin..
1. I think the speed at which the information in the news bar is running is too fast, admin can perhaps slow it down a bit.
2. When one click the pause button while the news is in the middle of the race, possibly to read up something, when you click the play button again, the news information will go back and start from the beginning - if it's pause and play, the news information should be able to continue running from where it was paused, not return and start from the beginning - this is Stop and play.
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1. I think the speed at which the information in the news bar is running is too fast, admin can perhaps slow it down a bit.
I got the impression that it works slower on mobile devices than on a desktop browser. Maybe the admin tested primarily on a mobile device, so it doesn't seem too fast.
btw. I would change the colour of the pause button as well as the links themselves, for example instead of the current blue, orange would be more suitable. Like the 'Home' button, and more in line with the design of the forum.
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i think also message notification might be affected, i am surprised chat isn't
Probably, I didn't test if anything else like chat is affected but scripts can be disabled only on main page, so notifications would still work on other pages.
There is also alternative option of using adblockers for hiding only news ticker, but it needs to be customized.
Admin you can also give us the option to STOP news ticker permanently if we want.