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Title: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Bobcrypto on November 02, 2024, 05:48:27 PM
It sounds like former US president, mr Donald Trump is certain about his bold promises about his cryptocurrency support. Through out his campaign rally, and many of his  speeches, he had assured the crypto community about his commitment to the developments especially making the US the center of crypto mining hub of the world, and that every American citizen has the right to self custody of their digital assets etc.
However, I think that politicians all over the world will always use fare speeches to lure voters.
But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!

Read more here: https://cointelegraph.com/news/trump-promises-crypto-election-usa
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Charles-Tim on November 02, 2024, 05:57:01 PM
Only what people can hope for is if he is elected that he should fulfill the promises. But whether he is going to fulfill his promises or not, we do not know. We are not capable to see the future. So nobody knows if he is going to fulfill his promises.

But this is not only about his promises, many people believe already that if Donald Trump becomes the next United States president, that the price of bitcoin will increase.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: electronicash on November 02, 2024, 06:25:28 PM

its not gonna be hard for Trump to established that Bitcoin strategic reserve if he got the lawmakers wanting to solve that $35T debt. who wouldn't want that to happen while dissolving debts from China?

i think its going to this direction even if Trump doesn't win. especially because USD is threatened by the multicurrency financial system by BRICS and if they couldn't settle to this new financial system off BRICS then they will all be choosing crypto.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Gposas on November 02, 2024, 07:02:10 PM
Propaganda is a strategy in politics to win the heart of the people to cast votes in favor of the candidate.
I see it as a pattern of Former US President Donald Trump to win much votes from the Crypto angle in this US election, seeing that his fellow contestant Kamala Harris is a non-crypto supporter.
I'm pretty sure that he would put in place most of his Crypto promises maybe not all. As of the mining aspect he may likely put it in place as the article says that it could be a way out of the $35Trillion National Debt.
But on the other hand, this will boost his vote counts because US citizens who are into Crypto will cast their votes in his favor.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: robelneo on November 02, 2024, 09:10:20 PM
However, I think that politicians all over the world will always use fare speeches to lure voters.
But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!

You know when a true blooded politician says stuff that's out of this world or out of his character, believing on what Trump says is like a gamble, we never know if he's true to what he is promising or he will eventually backtrack, but Trump is offering something we can hope for, the alternative is not good as Kamala will just carry Biden's policy of being strict on Cryptocurrency.
So why not take a chance on Trump? if he fulfills his promise, that will be good for the cryptocommunity.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: yhiaali3 on November 02, 2024, 09:27:57 PM
I have always been skeptical of Trump's promises, but I don't know, this time he seems to be honest in his words, although all these statements fall under the category of election propaganda, but let's hope that he fulfills all his promises.

Trump is an economist first and foremost, and I think he recently learned about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and found out their great positive impact on the economy, so perhaps this is the point that might make him fulfill his promises. As for decentralization and privacy, Trump will definitely be against cryptocurrencies.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Stompix on November 02, 2024, 09:36:26 PM
its not gonna be hard for Trump to established that Bitcoin strategic reserve if he got the lawmakers wanting to solve that $35T debt. who wouldn't want that to happen while dissolving debts from China?

What debt to China?
China owns only $749.0 billion in US bonds, which is peanuts, people really need to understand that that massive debt is a debt to themselves, 7 trillion of it so 10 times more than what China holds is simply intergovernmental debt, so to make it easier one state owns money to the fed and one city owns money to the state.
That's why nobody really cares about that debt other than tinfoil hatters and conspiracy lovers!

Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: KingsDen on November 02, 2024, 10:02:27 PM
I have always been skeptical of Trump's promises, but I don't know, this time he seems to be honest in his words, although all these statements fall under the category of election propaganda, but let's hope that he fulfills all his promises.

Trump is an economist first and foremost, and I think he recently learned about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and found out their great positive impact on the economy, so perhaps this is the point that might make him fulfill his promises. As for decentralization and privacy, Trump will definitely be against cryptocurrencies.
Trump's intentions are still very unclear. Even if he tries to keep to his campaign promises, several factors will force him to compromise once he is elected into office. All the opinions we have right now about his intentions are just assumptions. Trump has told us what we love to hear compared to his opponent, there is nothing we can do right now aside hoping for the best outcome after the elections.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Jating on November 02, 2024, 11:03:24 PM
I have always been skeptical of Trump's promises, but I don't know, this time he seems to be honest in his words, although all these statements fall under the category of election propaganda, but let's hope that he fulfills all his promises.

Trump is an economist first and foremost, and I think he recently learned about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and found out their great positive impact on the economy, so perhaps this is the point that might make him fulfill his promises. As for decentralization and privacy, Trump will definitely be against cryptocurrencies.
Trump's intentions are still very unclear. Even if he tries to keep to his campaign promises, several factors will force him to compromise once he is elected into office. All the opinions we have right now about his intentions are just assumptions. Trump has told us what we love to hear compared to his opponent, there is nothing we can do right now aside hoping for the best outcome after the elections.

As for crypto, we really don't know, maybe he is just riding on the popularity of it and uses it to his advantage. Remember that during his first term, I would say that he didn't do anything on the advantage of Bitcoin itself in the US. But now it's totally different as it is one of his agenda. So for now, if you are really a crypto enthusiast, you might be banking on what Trump is telling us, that he will be pro-Bitcoin and will make it prosper in the US. But we will see, we can only connect the dots after he got re-elected.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on November 03, 2024, 01:07:41 AM
I have always been skeptical of Trump's promises, but I don't know, this time he seems to be honest in his words, although all these statements fall under the category of election propaganda, but let's hope that he fulfills all his promises.

Trump is an economist first and foremost, and I think he recently learned about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and found out their great positive impact on the economy, so perhaps this is the point that might make him fulfill his promises. As for decentralization and privacy, Trump will definitely be against cryptocurrencies.
Trump's intentions are still very unclear. Even if he tries to keep to his campaign promises, several factors will force him to compromise once he is elected into office. All the opinions we have right now about his intentions are just assumptions. Trump has told us what we love to hear compared to his opponent, there is nothing we can do right now aside hoping for the best outcome after the elections.
In Africa and most part of the world, politicians are full with promises during campaigns and not fulfilling them at all when they eventually get elected into office, so for that, we should not celebrate any campaign promises and also not rate politicians based on they campaign promises, because there is far difference between campaign and governance in most cases.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: yhiaali3 on November 03, 2024, 05:37:06 AM
In Africa and most part of the world, politicians are full with promises during campaigns and not fulfilling them at all when they eventually get elected into office, so for that, we should not celebrate any campaign promises and also not rate politicians based on they campaign promises, because there is far difference between campaign and governance in most cases.
Of course this happens in all countries of the world, politicians make a lot of promises in their election campaigns but forget everything once they are elected.

There is only one case where they can fulfill their promises if it suits their political and economic interests, so in the case of Trump and Bitcoin, Trump may have begun to realize the importance of Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in the economy, so I think he will fulfill his promises in this regard.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: bitterguy28 on November 03, 2024, 06:16:51 AM
However, I think that politicians all over the world will always use fare speeches to lure voters.
of course it is really hard to believe trump is genuinely in support of crypto when just a few years ago he was against it quite outwardly so you can't blame someone who is a bit skeptical of trump who only started getting into crypto in time for the election we know that politicians will target certain population and now crypto enthusiasts are part of the targeted population
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But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!
whether or not he is genuine, we won't know until he actually wins (if he wins) and does as he say

Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: NERFEDARTIST on November 03, 2024, 10:52:54 AM
History suggests that they cannot be trusted, but the same history has proven that Trump does well with crypto. I don't know if this helps.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Charles-Tim on November 03, 2024, 03:10:58 PM
In Africa and most part of the world, politicians are full with promises during campaigns and not fulfilling them at all when they eventually get elected into office, so for that, we should not celebrate any campaign promises and also not rate politicians based on they campaign promises, because there is far difference between campaign and governance in most cases.
There are differences between promises during campaign and governance. I have seen many politicians that fulfill their promises but they have bad governance. Bad governance and incompetent leadership is common in Africa. That is the reason the economy as not been good. I wish the promises should include that the country will have good economy, but which they may not fulfill because they are out of clue in achieving good economy.

About Trump promises, I do not think it should be hard to achieve. But let us see what will happen. If other arms of the government like the legislative arm can support him, it is very possible he is going to fulfill his promises. Removing people like the present SEC governor will easily be fulfilled. Bit about bitcoin as a strategic reserve, it can also easily be fulfilled if no obstacle.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Stompix on November 03, 2024, 03:24:15 PM
Remember that during his first term, I would say that he didn't do anything on the advantage of Bitcoin itself in the US.

Quite the opposite, he did only bad things for Bitcoin!
He was the one who put taxes on gains from crypto, and he was also the one who imposed additional taxes for imported mining gear, so not only he didn't do anything good for crypto he actually stalled adoption and hurt mining.
If someone believes he will change after he gets his votes I can sell you a few bridges!
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: electronicash on November 03, 2024, 06:22:50 PM
its not gonna be hard for Trump to established that Bitcoin strategic reserve if he got the lawmakers wanting to solve that $35T debt. who wouldn't want that to happen while dissolving debts from China?

What debt to China?
China owns only $749.0 billion in US bonds, which is peanuts, people really need to understand that that massive debt is a debt to themselves, 7 trillion of it so 10 times more than what China holds is simply intergovernmental debt, so to make it easier one state owns money to the fed and one city owns money to the state.
That's why nobody really cares about that debt other than tinfoil hatters and conspiracy lovers!

of course they care. 35T national debt?  they even plan raise debt ceiling. money guys are always updated to this kind of news. remember that they are saying to the public that they are going to have a soft landing but seeing they are raising rates? that's obviously not the case if they raise rates for 4 years. more and more are becoming homeless while the government is sending trillions because they funding both sides in this unwinnable war. but we are not surprise.

trump is gonna stop this madness. i'm sure they can make a deal with China. maybe sell some regions to them as how its usually done since time.  ;D  its just forum chat brah no worries. only crypto users come here.

Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Z-tight on November 04, 2024, 10:14:55 PM
I cannot tell you whom to trust or believe, for me i do not believe most of what Trump has been saying in his campaigns concerning BTC, i think it is just a way to win over the BTC community to his side and i think he succeeded in doing that and i am sure a lot of bitcoiners will vote for him for this reason. The election is so close now, so maybe there is no need to debate anymore, just wait and see.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: LogitechMouse on November 05, 2024, 02:55:36 AM
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Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
For these politicians, the quote "Promises are made to be broken" is a perfect fit for them.
I really don't want to generalize all politicians because there are still politicians out there that are working pretty well without any corruption whatsoever. It's just that, we have this stigma where we don't want to think too much about their promises because most of them broke their promises as they won the election.

As for Trump, and these politicians, let's be happy if they will make promises with regards to cryptocurrency, but also don't think too much about it because there's a chance that they might not even fulfill their promises for various reasons. Believe them, but don't expect too much about it.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: TomPluz on November 05, 2024, 04:50:06 AM


Generally speaking, politicians can not and should not be 100% trusted with their plans and promises especially in the election season but because it is Trump who has a clearer stand and the first one to offer his vision on what he would be doing with the cryptocurrency industry once elected, he has more of an edge compared to Harris. Remember that Harris is the current VP of Biden, she is part and parcel of this administration which is not really so friendly with the crypto industry, as personified by SEC chair Gary Gensler. Now, this brings us to the next question: would you prefer a politician that has plans and promises or one who has nothing to say really good?
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: MrSpasybo on November 05, 2024, 05:28:30 PM
It sounds like former US president, mr Donald Trump is certain about his bold promises about his cryptocurrency support. Through out his campaign rally, and many of his  speeches, he had assured the crypto community about his commitment to the developments especially making the US the center of crypto mining hub of the world, and that every American citizen has the right to self custody of their digital assets etc.
However, I think that politicians all over the world will always use fare speeches to lure voters.
But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!
We have seen Trump issue NFTs and use BTC for payments, these are practical actions that make us believe that Trump understands crypto and supports crypto. Trump did not support BTC when he was in office but now he understands that BTC can help make America great again ^^

I cannot be sure what Trump will do after being elected, I just hope that he will fulfill his promises so as not to face a wave of criticism from the crypto community. Pressure from ourselves will push Trump to fulfill his promises during the campaign period.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: tvplus006 on November 05, 2024, 06:03:40 PM
...But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!

There is a belief that most people lie before the elections, after fishing and before sex. Politicians promise what people want to hear from him. So you should not hope that Trump will fulfill his campaign promises, and it is not a fact that he will win against Kamala Harris.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Stompix on November 05, 2024, 07:54:47 PM
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of course they care. 35T national debt?  they even plan raise debt ceiling. money guys are always updated to this kind of news. remember that they are saying to the public that they are going to have a soft landing but seeing they are raising rates? that's obviously not the case if they raise rates for 4 years. more and more are becoming homeless while the government is sending trillions because they funding both sides in this unwinnable war. but we are not surprise.

Lol, unwinnable war, straight from Russia's propaganda book!
And you talk about how bad the US economy is doing and how they are, what, raising the rates? The US just cut the rates, it's Russia who has raised them to 21%, that is 4 times bigger than the highest US rates were.  ;D ;D

And again you fail to understand the basics, the US government holds through intergovernmental debt 10 times more than China does! Educate yourself:
https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2024/08/the-federal-government-has-borrowed-trillions-but-who-owns-all-that-debt

 

Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Freemind on November 05, 2024, 08:27:43 PM
I don't know if the thread title is a joke, rhetoric or a serious question... I believe that the history of nations has taught us that no, we cannot trust politicians. They will do and say anything for the sole purpose of being elected. That Trump has promised to create a Bitcoin hub in the United States and that the remaining Bitcoins are mined there, only points to the million (approximately) voters and cryptocurrency users in the country. Also, as I said in another of my posts, Trump said not long ago that Bitcoin was nothing more than a scam and a threat to the dollar.

Trump knows absolutely nothing about cryptocurrencies, as demonstrated by the video in a bar where someone had to transfer Bitcoin since Trump did not know how to do it.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: electronicash on November 05, 2024, 08:51:00 PM
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of course they care. 35T national debt?  they even plan raise debt ceiling. money guys are always updated to this kind of news. remember that they are saying to the public that they are going to have a soft landing but seeing they are raising rates? that's obviously not the case if they raise rates for 4 years. more and more are becoming homeless while the government is sending trillions because they funding both sides in this unwinnable war. but we are not surprise.

Lol, unwinnable war, straight from Russia's propaganda book!
And you talk about how bad the US economy is doing and how they are, what, raising the rates? The US just cut the rates, it's Russia who has raised them to 21%, that is 4 times bigger than the highest US rates were.  ;D ;D

And again you fail to understand the basics, the US government holds through intergovernmental debt 10 times more than China does! Educate yourself:
https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2024/08/the-federal-government-has-borrowed-trillions-but-who-owns-all-that-debt
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lol  yep people who only watches mainstream media believe what their government told them. that Biden laptop was once laugh at when media says just Russian propaganda. but in the end off it all, its true. now they can't even tell the story anymore. yup educate lol

how many regions did zelensky took back and say he won it back?  that comedian is funny as that old biden.
yea i don't know economy. look at the US economy because i don't think even their leaders knew economy. now look at China. aren't they the one building infrastructures there in US? and they just cant show it to the media.  educate my ass.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Rruchi man on November 06, 2024, 10:50:06 PM
However, I think that politicians all over the world will always use fare speeches to lure voters.
But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!

This is another opportunity to find out if a politician can actually be different. It is one thing to say things, another thing to do.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Z-tight on November 07, 2024, 01:29:02 AM
Trump has won the U.S. election, now you can wait and see if politicians can be trusted with their promises. However, it is also important to understand what these promises are, i see that so many people are expecting the unrealistic, even when the president-elect never made some of those promises.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: NotATether on November 07, 2024, 10:20:19 AM
History suggests that they cannot be trusted, but the same history has proven that Trump does well with crypto. I don't know if this helps.

History has also shown that Trump cannot even keep the promises he wants to deliver on, so if you are going to base investment advice on his policies then proceed with caution.

Trump has won the U.S. election, now you can wait and see if politicians can be trusted with their promises. However, it is also important to understand what these promises are, i see that so many people are expecting the unrealistic, even when the president-elect never made some of those promises.

LOL. Trump won the presidency 8 years ago too. How many of those promises has he kept? Not a lot, to be honest. I am surprised that you guys are expecting something different this time.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Z-tight on November 07, 2024, 07:18:46 PM
LOL. Trump won the presidency 8 years ago too. How many of those promises has he kept? Not a lot, to be honest. I am surprised that you guys are expecting something different this time.
I never said i was expecting anything, i have always said i don't believe politicians can do much for the benefit of a decentralized network like BTC. However, some people tend to disagree, and nobody can deny them of their opinion, if they truly believe Trump will make a difference, they can only wait now.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Freemind on November 07, 2024, 08:54:28 PM
I never said i was expecting anything, i have always said i don't believe politicians can do much for the benefit of a decentralized network like BTC. However, some people tend to disagree, and nobody can deny them of their opinion, if they truly believe Trump will make a difference, they can only wait now.

In fact, politicians could do a lot for Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, if they really wanted to. They could allow the use of cryptocurrencies as payments in those establishments that wish to do so, they could allow a lower electricity bill for miners, they could lower the percentage of taxes that must be paid... There are many ideas that could be applied. But in reality nothing matters if politicians do not have a real will to do things to improve the lives of citizens.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Agbe on November 19, 2024, 05:32:47 PM

However, I think that politicians all over the world will always use fare speeches to lure voters.
But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!

Read more here: https://cointelegraph.com/news/trump-promises-crypto-election-usa
If there's any set of people who should not be trusted with their words is politicians because over time they have shown that they can't be trusted with their words and promise's because they only use them during campaigns to get their support and get their vote so they can win election but concerning trump and his promises to the American crypto community I think he is going to fulfill them because he mean what he promised and people should give him that benefits of doubt and wait for him to implement his promises to the people especially when it comes to crypto again we should know that the American society is an enlightened society so if trump don't do as he said during the campaigns he will be doing it at the risk of his party in the next election season that will come up after his second tenure
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: electronicash on November 19, 2024, 08:05:59 PM

However, I think that politicians all over the world will always use fare speeches to lure voters.
But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!

Read more here: https://cointelegraph.com/news/trump-promises-crypto-election-usa
If there's any set of people who should not be trusted with their words is politicians because over time they have shown that they can't be trusted with their words and promise's because they only use them during campaigns to get their support and get their vote so they can win election but concerning trump and his promises to the American crypto community I think he is going to fulfill them because he mean what he promised and people should give him that benefits of doubt and wait for him to implement his promises to the people especially when it comes to crypto again we should know that the American society is an enlightened society so if trump don't do as he said during the campaigns he will be doing it at the risk of his party in the next election season that will come up after his second tenure

maybe so. Trump surrounds himself with the people who invest in crypto. i'm sure there is substance to what he was saying back when he was campaigning. after learning, he and elon started department of government efficiency (DOGE) its quite a fun office and some are already entertaining the thought that Doge would be the official cryptocurrency of US lol

i know its not so much of a success yet for Trump admin but this is going to be  ride for crypto once this bull run continues its rise.


Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: _act_ on November 19, 2024, 09:15:15 PM
We cant be relying on what politicians are saying and this same reason makes it not to be more appropriate for us to include their effects on the way we are dealing or handling our crypto, in cryptocurrency, we know what to expect and what is at stake, while in politics, things remains unpredictable as well as the politicians involved, its better we don't work by their promises, because we will eventually ends being disappointed.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Asiska02 on November 19, 2024, 10:39:06 PM
Politicians making promises and not fulfilling it has been their thing and it won’t be a surprise if Donald Trump doesn’t deliver on his promises. He may have used that to lure people into voting for him and winning the election, but do you think if he doesn’t fulfill in his promises, he’ll get another chance to be trusted as the president even during his tenure now? Or when wanting to contest again? He made a very big promise and everyone around the world can’t forget that promise and will be looking forward to see him do as he said. They can’t be trusted but I feel some optimism in me that he’ll fulfill and deliver on his promises made about bitcoin.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: bitterguy28 on November 20, 2024, 02:50:10 AM
Politicians making promises and not fulfilling it has been their thing and it won’t be a surprise if Donald Trump doesn’t deliver on his promises. He may have used that to lure people into voting for him and winning the election, but do you think if he doesn’t fulfill in his promises, he’ll get another chance to be trusted as the president even during his tenure now? Or when wanting to contest again? He made a very big promise and everyone around the world can’t forget that promise and will be looking forward to see him do as he said. They can’t be trusted but I feel some optimism in me that he’ll fulfill and deliver on his promises made about bitcoin.
him being surrounded by people who are also probitcoin in the white house must mean something surely he will do his part and fulfill his promises i have seen people say that trump is someone who does not go backwards with his words but at the same time he is 78 after this presidency he will be 82 will he still run after that? can he really still lead the country at that age? and will anyone still be willing to vote for him at that age regardless of what he did considering issues and illnesses that come with that age?
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: KingsDen on November 20, 2024, 08:24:29 AM
In Africa and most part of the world, politicians are full with promises during campaigns and not fulfilling them at all when they eventually get elected into office, so for that, we should not celebrate any campaign promises and also not rate politicians based on they campaign promises, because there is far difference between campaign and governance in most cases.
This is not just limited to Africa, politicians generally often fail to deliver on the promises they made during their campaign. Your points about not celebrating just campaign promises are very correct, but we can still appreciate every positive impact see as a result of our preferred candidates' victory. Trump's victory has impacted the market positively  and it is worth celebrating, at least for now till we know his next moves. The current market condition gives us hope, let's just keep the hope alive.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: rachael9385 on November 22, 2024, 06:57:49 AM
Well as we all know that's a normal thing for politicians to make their promises get what they want and at last forget most of them again. And sometimes I think why they forget some of these there promises is because immediately you hold the position as the front man there are many pressures and alot of more bigger things to attend to there by from time to time they need to be reminded of their promises.
In the case of crypto currencies I don't see it that way because he used most of his campaign to make these promise so it is now a big one so it would be too big to forget, he would want to settle these promises.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on November 22, 2024, 09:01:25 AM
We know that all political candidates in all countries around the world do not fulfill their promises 100%; it seems like they are lucky that 20% of those promises are fulfilled. Usually, this changes once they are seated in the government position they ran for.

But maybe there are others who are also fulfilling their advocacy that they said during their election campaign, but only a few and only a few politicians
like this have a word of honor.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on November 25, 2024, 09:24:01 PM
It sounds like former US president, mr Donald Trump is certain about his bold promises about his cryptocurrency support. Through out his campaign rally, and many of his  speeches, he had assured the crypto community about his commitment to the developments especially making the US the center of crypto mining hub of the world, and that every American citizen has the right to self custody of their digital assets etc.
However, I think that politicians all over the world will always use fare speeches to lure voters.
But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!

Read more here: https://cointelegraph.com/news/trump-promises-crypto-election-usa

For us to be able to go and and not be disappointed in cryptocurrency, then we must be ready and able to focus on what we have learnt about the crypto networks and hold onto them, instead of believing on the vain promises from some of our political leaders, we cannot be disappointed in crypto but politics cannot be trusted, because they are people working under centralized authorities.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: JoyMarsha on November 25, 2024, 10:41:32 PM
We cant be relying on what politicians are saying and this same reason makes it not to be more appropriate for us to include their effects on the way we are dealing or handling our crypto, in cryptocurrency, we know what to expect and what is at stake, while in politics, things remains unpredictable as well as the politicians involved, its better we don't work by their promises, because we will eventually ends being disappointed.
Exactly. We shouldn't work on their promises, to have ourselves disappointed in the end because when less hope is placed on politicians, whatever manner of attitude they intend to display won't be surprising to us because we have at first removed our minds and high hopes on them, not to be fully get attached to their sugar coating promises that they use to decisive the masses to win their hearts to vote for them.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: robelneo on November 28, 2024, 10:23:57 PM
We cant be relying on what politicians are saying and this same reason makes it not to be more appropriate for us to include their effects on the way we are dealing or handling our crypto, in cryptocurrency, we know what to expect and what is at stake, while in politics, things remains unpredictable as well as the politicians involved, its better we don't work by their promises, because we will eventually ends being disappointed.
Exactly. We shouldn't work on their promises, to have ourselves disappointed in the end because when less hope is placed on politicians, whatever manner of attitude they intend to display won't be surprising to us because we have at first removed our minds and high hopes on them, not to be fully get attached to their sugar coating promises that they use to decisive the masses to win their hearts to vote for them.

Here in our country, I take down notes on the promises of politicians I voted for. So in case they do not fulfill their promises, and if ever they run again, I campaign against them. The worst criticism politicians can receive is not fulfilling what they promised; if other voters know that they are the kind that do not fullfill their promises, that will ruin their chances to win.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Themepen on November 29, 2024, 04:16:55 AM
Donald Trump has made big promises about supporting cryptocurrency but it is natural to wonder if he will actually follow. During his campaign he told crypto community that he wants to make US hub for crypto mining and support people ability to control their own digital assets.Some of his specific promises include creating special reserve of Bitcoin making sure all future Bitcoin is mined in US and supporting laws that are friendly to crypto.

He is also said he will fire head of SEC Gary Gensler( which is done)  and create special group to advise him on crypto. While these promises sound great we have to remember that Trump has made big promises before that did not actually happen.As you said it is easier to make promises than to keep them and only time will tell if Trump will actually follow through on his cryptocurrency promises.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: LogitechMouse on November 29, 2024, 04:35:49 AM
Here in our country, I take down notes on the promises of politicians I voted for. So in case they do not fulfill their promises, and if ever they run again, I campaign against them. The worst criticism politicians can receive is not fulfilling what they promised; if other voters know that they are the kind that do not fullfill their promises, that will ruin their chances to win.
Election in our country is happening in around 6 months more or less, and here in our place, there's many politicians that are already giving away relief goods with their name on it as a way for them to introduce themselves. I'm living on a place where typhoon struck us 4 times hence, we're seeing packs of relief goods here and there coming from different politicians. :D

I think I'll do the same as what you're doing. I'll list down their promises or maybe have some record on it so that I can compare all of them. I guess their past performance would help us decide on whether this politician can be trusted a bit or not. I've seen politicians here and there that are not fulfilling their promises, and there's nothing we can do about it because we got fooled by their "FLOWERY" words during the campaign period. :D
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Z-tight on November 29, 2024, 10:37:51 PM
He is also said he will fire head of SEC Gary Gensler( which is done)
He did not fire Gary Gensler, he is resigning of his own will, i don't think the president has the constitutional powers to fire the sec chair, but it makes sense that he is stepping aside, so the new administration can pick a person of their choice to chair the sec.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Stompix on November 30, 2024, 07:08:26 PM
Donald Trump has made big promises about supporting cryptocurrency but it is natural to wonder if he will actually follow. During his campaign he told crypto community that he wants to make US hub for crypto mining and support people ability to control their own digital assets.Some of his specific promises include creating special reserve of Bitcoin making sure all future Bitcoin is mined in US and supporting laws that are friendly to crypto.

His first promise and more important to his voters is also a new tax, on top of his previous tax on imports from China, especially electronics!
Not, please let me know how are miners from the US going to transform it into a mining hub when Asics imports are going to be taxed extra from 25-50%, depending on which side of the bed this guy will be waking up?
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on November 30, 2024, 10:47:45 PM
It sounds like former US president, mr Donald Trump is certain about his bold promises about his cryptocurrency support. Through out his campaign rally, and many of his  speeches, he had assured the crypto community about his commitment to the developments especially making the US the center of crypto mining hub of the world, and that every American citizen has the right to self custody of their digital assets etc.
However, I think that politicians all over the world will always use fare speeches to lure voters.
But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!

Read more here: https://cointelegraph.com/news/trump-promises-crypto-election-usa
I don't know if he will follow all of his bold promises that he made to crypto community but the result of his win has already satisfied lot in community. They already ignoring promises it's like people might forget about promises but Trump won't because he made it on air mostly.

Other than Trump every politician make promises and nothing bad in that this is what they do. They have to share their aim with their fellow citizens so they could vouch for him and give him or her power to change what they wanted to be change.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Bobcrypto on December 04, 2024, 09:07:17 AM
We cant be relying on what politicians are saying and this same reason makes it not to be more appropriate for us to include their effects on the way we are dealing or handling our crypto, in cryptocurrency, we know what to expect and what is at stake, while in politics, things remains unpredictable as well as the politicians involved, its better we don't work by their promises, because we will eventually ends being disappointed.
Exactly. We shouldn't work on their promises, to have ourselves disappointed in the end because when less hope is placed on politicians, whatever manner of attitude they intend to display won't be surprising to us because we have at first removed our minds and high hopes on them, not to be fully get attached to their sugar coating promises that they use to decisive the masses to win their hearts to vote for them.

Yeah, to really avoid being disappointed, it is better to leave the politicians with their promises based on probability, that is, either a fullfil promises or failed promises. In a nutshell, it advisable to focus on the cryptocurrency business and watch the promises play out as the new regime begins it's tenure, and along the line, some of the promises may be fullfied.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Z-tight on December 04, 2024, 11:14:49 AM
In a nutshell, it advisable to focus on the cryptocurrency business and watch the promises play out as the new regime begins it's tenure, and along the line, some of the promises may be fullfied.
With the whole interest Trump showed in BTC in the period leading up to the election, some people have forgotten that BTC is a decentralized currency and network and no central authority can control it. I say so because of some of the expectations amongst bitcoiners, the new administration have shown that they will be friendly to BTC, but we still have to keep our expectations at a realistic level.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Asiska02 on December 05, 2024, 07:01:11 PM
In a nutshell, it advisable to focus on the cryptocurrency business and watch the promises play out as the new regime begins it's tenure, and along the line, some of the promises may be fullfied.
With the whole interest Trump showed in BTC in the period leading up to the election, some people have forgotten that BTC is a decentralized currency and network and no central authority can control it. I say so because of some of the expectations amongst bitcoiners, the new administration have shown that they will be friendly to BTC, but we still have to keep our expectations at a realistic level.

You are just saying that politicians can’t be trusted and we should not forget that bitcoin is a decentralized currency and politicians (government) will never be comfortable with it being used as a currency that will serve as alternative to their fiat currencies. Being friendly doesn’t mean they may legalize it, but it is better to be on a neutral ground and not expect much from them even as they can’t do anything at this stage to stop the adoption and use of it globally.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: _act_ on December 07, 2024, 12:42:29 PM
Most of the cryptopreneurs I've come across are not that interested in politics because they know its a dirty game as well as a time waster for them, they can make use of the same time and get lots of benefits in bitcoin than when vested on politics, this makes it more clear that the politicians needed us in cryptocurrency than we do needs them, because they have now seen the power of influence right from the just concluded US election form the crypto communities.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: trendcoin on December 11, 2024, 09:10:28 PM
I can't trust Trump too much because he is a pragmatist. However, I find the change between his previous views and his current views normal and sincere because time changes us all. Trump may have gotten more accurate information on some issues over time. I think politicians like Trump and Bukele are sincere...
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: albon on December 12, 2024, 01:56:30 PM
It would be easy for a developed country to do this and donald trump has announced his cryptocurrency support several times so crypto is changing. But everyone makes such promises before the vote but many forget in the future. But with crypto the idea may be correct because where there is profit, the government of a country will discuss it more. But of course the political context is not easy to understand because many people think that thinking about crypto will be a waste of time so they will want to take more political advantage in that case. As we common people get more involved with crypto we will need it more.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 12, 2024, 11:05:22 PM
Exactly. We shouldn't work on their promises, to have ourselves disappointed in the end because when less hope is placed on politicians, whatever manner of attitude they intend to display won't be surprising to us because we have at first removed our minds and high hopes on them, not to be fully get attached to their sugar coating promises that they use to decisive the masses to win their hearts to vote for them.

Yeah, to really avoid being disappointed, it is better to leave the politicians with their promises based on probability, that is, either a fullfil promises or failed promises. In a nutshell, it advisable to focus on the cryptocurrency business and watch the promises play out as the new regime begins it's tenure, and along the line, some of the promises may be fullfied.
Well, we can't say for Trump until the day he steps into office and leaves as US president. Then we can begin to quite mention the things he says to do, and what we have seen so far.

I am sure Trump will have some of his crypto promises fulfilled, and some not fulfilled also. But what will give everyone joy is that the US is no longer as strict on crypto as it was before. However, many of us won't be much bothered if Trump doesn't later fulfill all his crypto promises
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: philipma1957 on December 13, 2024, 09:10:40 PM
It sounds like former US president, mr Donald Trump is certain about his bold promises about his cryptocurrency support. Through out his campaign rally, and many of his  speeches, he had assured the crypto community about his commitment to the developments especially making the US the center of crypto mining hub of the world, and that every American citizen has the right to self custody of their digital assets etc.
However, I think that politicians all over the world will always use fare speeches to lure voters.
But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!

Read more here: https://cointelegraph.com/news/trump-promises-crypto-election-usa

Well he won lets see how he does. Can't see much good if he does not change crypto rules so that the paperwork is reduced.

His 2018 like kind exchange law was terrible for crypto.  So I kind of think he is not going to help crypto much. Other than letting miners burn power and oil.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: rachael9385 on December 17, 2024, 06:47:37 PM
Politicians shouldn't be trusted in anyway especially when they make claims in a campaign. But sometimes I don't blame them they just need to be reminded sometimes cause when you are in the high places it comes with a very high pressure. But I believe concerning crypto currencies Donald Trump is gonna do just as he has promised I don't know but it's my believe on that.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: _act_ on December 17, 2024, 11:52:36 PM
If we cant trust ourselves in doing some certain things, then who are we to trust the so called politicians which demands and pressure are much on them, they hardly remember some of the things they might have said over time because there is much ahead of them in demands, though its a service to serve the people, but in real life, the people are the ones serving them because of their power.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: philipma1957 on December 18, 2024, 04:43:40 AM
If we cant trust ourselves in doing some certain things, then who are we to trust the so called politicians which demands and pressure are much on them, they hardly remember some of the things they might have said over time because there is much ahead of them in demands, though its a service to serve the people, but in real life, the people are the ones serving them because of their power.

Absolutely politics is a very tough master of us all. The world is not so big that you can fully escape political mastery anymore.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Stompix on December 22, 2024, 06:59:12 PM
Well, we can't say for Trump until the day he steps into office and leaves as US president. Then we can begin to quite mention the things he says to do, and what we have seen so far.

You know this guy was president for 4 years, right?
And he promised to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it, which never happened?
He promised reform in healthcare that never happened.
He promised to drain the swamp and a ton more and guess what, didn't deliver on a single thing.

So you have a politician that for 4 years has broken promises and now you trust him again with promises, because???Why?

But I believe concerning crypto currencies Donald Trump is gonna do just as he has promised I don't know but it's my believe on that.

The term is wish or hope, you want that to happen not that you trust him with that!

Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Z-tight on December 22, 2024, 09:06:14 PM
But I believe concerning crypto currencies Donald Trump is gonna do just as he has promised I don't know but it's my believe on that.
I wish you are right about that, to be very honest, i don't know if he will deliver on everything he said about crypto during the campaign. Take note that it is easier for politicians to make promises during campaigns, and if they eventually get elected they find out that it may be difficult to implement some of what they promised or they just move over to other things.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 23, 2024, 10:29:13 PM
Well, we can't say for Trump until the day he steps into office and leaves as US president. Then we can begin to quite mention the things he says to do, and what we have seen so far.

You know this guy was president for 4 years, right?
And he promised to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it, which never happened?
He promised reform in healthcare that never happened.
He promised to drain the swamp and a ton more and guess what, didn't deliver on a single thing.

So you have a politician that for 4 years has broken promises and now you trust him again with promises, because???Why?
I do not trust any politician because their words are not always true. They can say A and later do otherwise. We can't kill them for that or question their decisions. We can't only wait for the next election when we can have the power to either vote for them or not.

We can't tell whether Trump will give us an empty promise as he did in his previous administration. Let's see how his four years of rulership will be. Whether a big change will happen in his government
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Chilwell on December 24, 2024, 09:47:40 AM
Politicians shouldn't be trusted in anyway especially when they make claims in a campaign. But sometimes I don't blame them they just need to be reminded sometimes cause when you are in the high places it comes with a very high pressure. But I believe concerning crypto currencies Donald Trump is gonna do just as he has promised I don't know but it's my believe on that.
Donald Trump has won, since he has been elected. And his goal has been fulfill now. we will have the ability to see his capabilities. We don't have to argue much, because as he has been elected, now we will know whether politicians are trust worthy or not. Donald Trump has promised to make the united states "the crypto capital of the planet", let see what he will do about the promise he made. Though, am not a citizen of America, so I won't deny your facts, because I don't know why you have much confidence in  him. Since you said politicians need to be reminded about the promises they made, because they might have forgotten some, I will not deny that also. But to me politicians are politicians, they can do anything to fulfill their wishes, talk less of promises. Some do not forget the promises they made, but they only choose to ignore them. But I hope Donald Trump fulfill his promises now that he has won.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Faisal2202 on December 24, 2024, 06:09:19 PM
It sounds like former US president, mr Donald Trump is certain about his bold promises about his cryptocurrency support. Through out his campaign rally, and many of his  speeches, he had assured the crypto community about his commitment to the developments especially making the US the center of crypto mining hub of the world, and that every American citizen has the right to self custody of their digital assets etc.
However, I think that politicians all over the world will always use fare speeches to lure voters.
But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!
I think he will follow his promises as I know I am late in replying to this thread but till now he made sure that Gary will be replaced and he did it, and promises to make the US the center hub of crypto and giving every US citizen the right to self custody their tokens is a very stupid promise I mean if I am a US citizen I will be the one taking custody of my assets like why would I give it to someone else!

So far I did not know of such promises too because the ones he made were prominent ones and if he fulfills them the market will surely pump like opposition of CBDCs, no taxation, etc. In short I think we can trust this one.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: God Of Thunder on December 27, 2024, 12:01:47 PM
However, I think that politicians all over the world will always use fare speeches to lure voters.
But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!

We are here again after almost two months of creating the thread.
I am not a big fan of Donald trump. I would support Kamala Harris when it comes to politics and other ethics. But, I have to admit that Donald Trump seems to be keeping his promises and he is already working on that. In general, I do not believe what other politicians promise. They promise to provide us with a drug-free society, but in reality, they are controlling the drug dealers. But we are talking about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency here. Donald Trump already took some actions and I believe he will keep his other promises as well.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: Asiska02 on December 31, 2024, 09:25:32 PM
However, I think that politicians all over the world will always use fare speeches to lure voters.
But do you think Donald Trump will follow his bold promises? It is easier said than done!

We are here again after almost two months of creating the thread.
I am not a big fan of Donald trump. I would support Kamala Harris when it comes to politics and other ethics. But, I have to admit that Donald Trump seems to be keeping his promises and he is already working on that. In general, I do not believe what other politicians promise. They promise to provide us with a drug-free society, but in reality, they are controlling the drug dealers. But we are talking about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency here. Donald Trump already took some actions and I believe he will keep his other promises as well.

How easy the politicians can convince people to vote for them after making them a lot of promises and they fall for them. How hard it is to make everyone believe that bitcoin technology is the way forward as far as the financial market is concerned and they still doubt its existence and what it entails to provide for all that embraces it. Donald Trump has made a huge promise Toby he crypto community and on how large the community is, I don’t think that Donald Trump will disappoint and not fulfill most of them, that will just tarnish his image more generally.

I am not really a political inclined person but I really love politicians that keep other promises, it shows they can be trusted even in the future and in some other public positions they will hold in the future. I have no doubts to how much he can achieve, even before entering office, he’s already setting the pace and that’s what is most needed from a leader. Bitcoin should thrive during his tenure and if for any reason it doesn’t, they he’s still the main cause of it but I doubt if it’ll ever get to this stage.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: God Of Thunder on January 01, 2025, 08:16:28 AM
I am not really a political inclined person but I really love politicians that keep other promises, it shows they can be trusted even in the future and in some other public positions they will hold in the future. I have no doubts to how much he can achieve, even before entering office, he’s already setting the pace and that’s what is most needed from a leader. Bitcoin should thrive during his tenure and if for any reason it doesn’t, they he’s still the main cause of it but I doubt if it’ll ever get to this stage.

If politicians do not keep their promises, I don't think people take that too negatively these days. People are used to seeing politicians lie and not keep their promises. So now, when a politician starts keeping his promises, we take it too positively as if he is not supposed to keep his promises. Actually, that is going to make the difference between other politicians and the politicians who keep their promises.

I can already see the outcome of Donald Trump's appointing people in some crypto and technology sectors. I hope he will keep his promises and won't become just another politician who lies. As I said before, I am not a big fan of Donald Trump, but I liked what he has been doing lately.
Title: Re: Can politicians be Trusted with their promises ?
Post by: LogitechMouse on January 01, 2025, 10:02:57 AM
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If politicians do not keep their promises, I don't think people take that too negatively these days. People are used to seeing politicians lie and not keep their promises. So now, when a politician starts keeping his promises, we take it too positively as if he is not supposed to keep his promises. Actually, that is going to make the difference between other politicians and the politicians who keep their promises.

I can already see the outcome of Donald Trump's appointing people in some crypto and technology sectors. I hope he will keep his promises and won't become just another politician who lies. As I said before, I am not a big fan of Donald Trump, but I liked what he has been doing lately.
I've seen politicians here in our country that aren't fulfilling their promises, and I'm used to it already, and for sure many of us are used to it as well that we aren't bothered anymore if they aren't fulfilling their promises. One example and for sure many in our country knows it, but our last president said that he will eradicate drugs in our country in 6 months in his campaigns, and when he won, he didn't fulfill it and in fact, he didn't eradicate it in his whole 6 years as our president.

As for Trump, I have low expectations that he will fulfill his promises especially when it comes to cryptocurrency. I guess it's just good if he will fulfill some, but let's lower our expectations with this one.