Altcoins Talks - Cryptocurrency Forum
Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Topic started by: Freemind on December 29, 2024, 08:58:31 PM
-
After reading this thread (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=326655.0), and thanks to the idea and initiative of Findingnemo, I decided to write this thread. I think the same as Findingnemo, that the majority of users (including me, which I think is something we do instinctively) almost always continue responding in the same threads, which almost always talk about the same things.
Starting from that base, and as I said, with the idea of Findingnemo in mind, I thought we could do what he says in his thread, to generate more activity and move Karma. According to him, and I agree, some rules, even if they are basic, would be necessary to avoid abuses.
I would like to know the users' opinion, or what they would change/add:
✅ Each new thread (the OP) will receive +3 positive Karma.
✅ New threads must have at least (insert your amount here) posts excluding the OP to receive Karma.
✅ I think it goes without saying that abandoned or spammed/shilling threads and their OPs doing nothing to keep them alive and clean will not only not receive +, they will receive -.
✅ My mind is ceasing to be free and goes blank. Tell me what you think.
As always I read your complaints, suggestions and insults.
In addition to the information detailed above, and thanks to the idea of PX-Z, I would like to add the following:
On the last day of each month, top topic starter and top poster information will be obtained using the tools provided by PX-Z: https://pxzone.online/altt.
Top topic starter:
✅ The first user of top topic starter will receive +30 Karma which will be added to the information above.
✅ The second user of top topic starter will receive +20 Karma which will be added to the information above.
✅ The third user of top topic starter will receive +10 Karma which will be added to the information above.
Top poster:
✅ The first user of the top poster list will receive +25 Karma which will be added to the information above.
✅ The second user of the top poster list will receive +20 Karma that will be added to the information above.
✅ The third user of the top poster list will receive +10 Karma that will be added to the information above.
I am going to negotiate with the administrator (wish me luck) so that the users who contribute the most to the forum, in addition to +Karma, also have additional compensation in the following rounds of forum token distribution.
I continue reading suggestions from users.
-
I can also give a list of the recent threads made in the past few hours or in the past 24 hours for easier viewing.
You can check the last 10 "Latest Topics" posted on the forum https://pxzone.online/altt
-
I don't know why @Peter90 is Under Review but s/he keeps creating new topics worth discussing so s/he deserves +10 positive Karma (unless I missed something).
I'll update this reply when I find topics worth highlighting.
-
PX-Z well thought out, I had forgotten that we can use your tools to obtain information more quickly, and you have also given me some more ideas...
I updated the OP with a few more things, I hope users give feedback on what they think about the idea in general.
+10.
I don't know why @Peter90 is Under Review but s/he keeps creating new topics worth discussing so s/he deserves +10 positive Karma (unless I missed something).
I'll update this reply when I find topics worth highlighting.
I am no one to decide or give an opinion about what Peter90 deserves since December 28, 2024 at 10:28:39 AM.
The reason why Peter90 is under review is this: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=326953.0.
Thank you.
+10.
-
I updated the OP with a few more things, I hope users give feedback on what they think about the idea in general.
Thanks for noticing it.
You came up with good suggestions which all seems fair but only thing that bugs me is how we are going to scrutinize the spammers and low quality threads that's made only with the intention of being at the top to recieve the Karma. I read people who create thread and abandon it will likely to get -Karma but it's going to be hell a lot of work to track all of them.
-
Great initiative, it reminds me of past karma initiatives for creating new topics, as there is always a need for new in order to divert from the mega threads.
-
as there is always a need for new in order to divert from the mega threads.
Not only that, it's also necessary to increase the database of information so in future someone search a question related to crypto they might find the link to a thread from here and that's how Bitcointalk evolved too at some point. So we need topics that discuss every aspects of crypto either it could be a really simple query or a complex technical knowledge guide.
-
Thanks for noticing it.
You came up with good suggestions which all seems fair but only thing that bugs me is how we are going to scrutinize the spammers and low quality threads that's made only with the intention of being at the top to recieve the Karma. I read people who create thread and abandon it will likely to get -Karma but it's going to be hell a lot of work to track all of them.
Thanks for your post.
I always keep in mind that there could be users who try to abuse these initiatives, but I think it is a risk that must be taken to try to obtain more participation in the forum. In fact, in the previous initiative (Moving Karma and avoiding abuse (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=325917.0)) we have not had any cases of abuse from users, which is a good sign. Although as I said then, it's all a matter of trying to see how things develop.
We can always add new rules, in case a user tries to abuse the initiative. And of course I am open to reading possible rules, opinions and new ideas from users.
As for it being a lot of work, I know, but I'm willing to take on that workload. Nobody said being a mod was easy :)
-
Snipped
Am also in support of this, i thought i was the only one that noticed that, even though i was silent about it, there is less move of activities here, most especially the creation of new threads and if we can do something like a submission as you have all suggested to help encourage for more new threads, things will go better, however, we must also never forget to take some caution as well as disciplinary actions against spammers, or those who will only create a thread without any meaningful contents, i support this and i wish there should be a poll to vote in for such if others could as well join in hands together.
-
Am also in support of this, i thought i was the only one that noticed that, even though i was silent about it, there is less move of activities here, most especially the creation of new threads and if we can do something like a submission as you have all suggested to help encourage for more new threads, things will go better, however, we must also never forget to take some caution as well as disciplinary actions against spammers, or those who will only create a thread without any meaningful contents, i support this and i wish there should be a poll to vote in for such if others could as well join in hands together.
Thanks for your post. Don't worry, as with other initiatives we will try to do the best we can to avoid abuse. Fortunately, so far none of that has happened.
~snip~
I'll update this reply when I find topics worth highlighting.
Thanks again. And I also encourage other users to do the same. Post links here to topics you find interesting. I want to remind users that this initiative is for new threads.
-
Not bad, considering that right now we also see a lot of topics that are already very fat.. even some posts that I see on page 5 and above tend to be too far from the main topic which makes the discussion no longer relevant...
Some topics that are discussed repeatedly may be reduced, and if the emergence of topics with new ideas is quite massive thanks to this karma reward program, I think that's right... but if it turns out that the number of topics that appear is still small, maybe the amount of +karma needs to be adjusted again...
I agree with this idea...
-
I can't find threads that's worth enough to add something new.
Need something bigger I guess?
Also, I can read that this is been implemented so the thread creator or someone has to report the threads here?
-
I can't find threads that's worth enough to add something new.
Need something bigger I guess?
Also, I can read that this is been implemented so the thread creator or someone has to report the threads here?
I have some saved threads that will receive what the OP indicated (in whole or in part). This weekend, when I have more time available, I will expand the information on this.
Any forum user can report a thread they think is worthwhile, there's no problem with that.
I'm also thinking, since a few days ago the administrator sent me some tokens to distribute in some way among the forum users, that the best thread of each month receives $25 in ALTT tokens. I suppose that would also make people do their best, but I have to think more carefully about it.
-
~
I'm also thinking, since a few days ago the administrator sent me some tokens to distribute in some way among the forum users, that the best thread of each month receives $25 in ALTT tokens. I suppose that would also make people do their best, but I have to think more carefully about it.
That can be a double edged sword, it sure will help with more topics created but at the same time chances of flooding with unnecessary spam topics is there so it has to be given for the deserving candidates only.
I expect you guys to come up with new topics instead of beating around the bush.
-
I didn't even know about this initiative until now.
Freemind, shouldn't you have given a little more precise conditions because it seems like you'll be rewarding every mega thread, regardless of the quality of the topic and the discussions within it?
btw, the PX-Z' tool doesn't seem to work because it fails to show all the data https://pxzone.online/altt Oops. It works after several refreshes.
-
Both have shared a good and postive idea that will encourage more users to start new topics and in all those topics the quality should be prioritze first thus in the chase of karma many might compromise the quality but I guess that is not a problem too because we have reporter too.
Overall I loved the PXZ idea the most I mean someone who started most of the topic would get +30 karma that's insane I doubt if the admin will agree to that big amount maybe to a small amount. I would never win this reward when one of the competitior is you (op) haha as you also made a lot of topics. BTW will local topics be counted or not?
-
Overall I loved the PXZ idea the most I mean someone who started most of the topic would get +30 karma that's insane I doubt if the admin will agree to that big amount maybe to a small amount. I would never win this reward when one of the competitior is you (op) haha as you also made a lot of topics. BTW will local topics be counted or not?
If we skip quality, and only take the number of topics then the shiller will always be on the top and I doubt it will just be purely number based. It's a lot of work to scrutinize them either so we can help in any possible way for the staffs to organize the forum in a better way.
-
That can be a double edged sword, it sure will help with more topics created but at the same time chances of flooding with unnecessary spam topics is there so it has to be given for the deserving candidates only.
I expect you guys to come up with new topics instead of beating around the bush.
I know, that's why I said I have to think about it more carefully, but I would like to distribute those tokens so that the users are more encouraged and thus be able to ask the administrator for more to be able to do something every month for example. Honestly, I'm a little stuck on this.
I didn't even know about this initiative until now.
Freemind, shouldn't you have given a little more precise conditions because it seems like you'll be rewarding every mega thread, regardless of the quality of the topic and the discussions within it?
btw, the PX-Z' tool doesn't seem to work because it fails to show all the data https://pxzone.online/altt Oops. It works after several refreshes.
You're right, I have to be more precise with the information about it, but I haven't decided anything yet as you can see. When the time comes I will give all the information possible.
If we skip quality, and only take the number of topics then the shiller will always be on the top and I doubt it will just be purely number based. It's a lot of work to scrutinize them either so we can help in any possible way for the staffs to organize the forum in a better way.
You have nothing to worry about, I am very clear about how things would be, and quantity would never come before quality.
-
Is the whole idea centred at encouraging starting a thread? If so, I would advise we go natural and everything will eventually fall in place because I am sensing huge abuse of the privilege. But if there is a clear thought out ways to handle this, it wouldn't be much of a problem.
-
If we skip quality, and only take the number of topics then the shiller will always be on the top and I doubt it will just be purely number based. It's a lot of work to scrutinize them either so we can help in any possible way for the staffs to organize the forum in a better way.
You are right, if quality will be compromised shillers can easily get 30+ karma but if we just add another rules about the quality of the topics where if someone will try to spam will get -30 karma.
This will discourage any shiller to avoid spamming just to chase +30 karma. Overall the ideas of rewarding users with karma is awesome.
-
I always keep in mind that there could be users who try to abuse these initiatives, but I think it is a risk that must be taken to try to obtain more participation in the forum. In fact, in the previous initiative (Moving Karma and avoiding abuse (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=325917.0)) we have not had any cases of abuse from users, which is a good sign. Although as I said then, it's all a matter of trying to see how things develop.
This is a nice idea. The focus though is not only to increase the numbers of threads and topics being created here rather to also simultaneously improve quality too. This means that these threads have to be proof checked to avoid low quality and spam posts just for the benefits of making a thread and not really to improve the community.
Also another possible and feasible idea is for more quality posts to be reported for rewards like this to actually encourage quality posters too.
-
If we skip quality, and only take the number of topics then the shiller will always be on the top and I doubt it will just be purely number based. It's a lot of work to scrutinize them either so we can help in any possible way for the staffs to organize the forum in a better way.
You have nothing to worry about, I am very clear about how things would be, and quantity would never come before quality.
An option to display karma points per post (in this case, even better for a thread) would come in handy here. This would make this kind of initiative quite easy, simply the thread with the most given karma points could be considered to contain a quality discussion.
This will discourage any shiller to avoid spamming just to chase +30 karma. Overall the ideas of rewarding users with karma is awesome.
Karma still has no special importance on the forum, it is more like a decoration. It almost doesn't matter whether a user has 10 karma points or 200. If that were to change, then maybe we could talk about discouragement.
-
Is the whole idea centred at encouraging starting a thread? If so, I would advise we go natural and everything will eventually fall in place because I am sensing huge abuse of the privilege. But if there is a clear thought out ways to handle this, it wouldn't be much of a problem.
No, the idea (in fact it's not even an idea yet) is based on useful threads, which are positive for the forum, for the users. I know it wouldn't be easy, but I think it's worth a try.
This is a nice idea. The focus though is not only to increase the numbers of threads and topics being created here rather to also simultaneously improve quality too. This means that these threads have to be proof checked to avoid low quality and spam posts just for the benefits of making a thread and not really to improve the community.
Also another possible and feasible idea is for more quality posts to be reported for rewards like this to actually encourage quality posters too.
That is the basis of everything, useful threads, not many threads that say nothing or that repeat something that has been said thousands of times. Yes, all threads will be checked one by one.
But there are still many things to think about.
An option to display karma points per post (in this case, even better for a thread) would come in handy here. This would make this kind of initiative quite easy, simply the thread with the most given karma points could be considered to contain a quality discussion.
I don't know if you read (when I find it I'll put it somewhere) a post from the admin, in which he said that he was postponing the Karma counter in the threads due to the many problems and errors that this generated in the forum.
-
I don't know if you read (when I find it I'll put it somewhere) a post from the admin, in which he said that he was postponing the Karma counter in the threads due to the many problems and errors that this generated in the forum.
Yeah, that's right. He tried to make changes and while trying the Karma system got crashed for a week or more and then only after he said that he is not going to touch anything about Karma for a while. And the thing that is complicating the change is the Karma is given to the profiles not to the posts so there's no way of knowing how many Karma the thread received unless the system get complete restructure.
-
Karma still has no special importance on the forum, it is more like a decoration. It almost doesn't matter whether a user has 10 karma points or 200. If that were to change, then maybe we could talk about discouragement.
Now it might not have any special importance but still it looks good on profile and if I am not wrong I think we can conver our Karmas into tokens (ALTT). If that's correct then it do have special importance but I think I might have mis-read the thread.
Overall We should be talking about discouragement because it's about quality, not about numbers of topics, if the quality is being compromised with useless topics, then the D.Team will report it that's for sure but still to make a point a statement must be given.
-
Karma still has no special importance on the forum, it is more like a decoration. It almost doesn't matter whether a user has 10 karma points or 200. If that were to change, then maybe we could talk about discouragement.
Now it might not have any special importance but still it looks good on profile and if I am not wrong I think we can conver our Karmas into tokens (ALTT). If that's correct then it do have special importance but I think I might have mis-read the thread.
Overall We should be talking about discouragement because it's about quality, not about numbers of topics, if the quality is being compromised with useless topics, then the D.Team will report it that's for sure but still to make a point a statement must be given.
Maybe soon, signature campaign managers will start hiring participants based on the number of earned karma just as it is done in the other forum. Even if the karma represents nothing at all, some people will still want theirs to be higher since numbers are involved.
#admin instead of losing the karma system you have already in quest of amendment, just leave it and plan for total change in the future.
-
Maybe soon, signature campaign managers will start hiring participants based on the number of earned karma just as it is done in the other forum. Even if the karma represents nothing at all, some people will still want theirs to be higher since numbers are involved.
#admin instead of losing the karma system you have already in quest of amendment, just leave it and plan for total change in the future.
You are right as maybe managers might be considering karma even now. We don't know that as they have not explicitly said that we also look into numbers of karma while on BTT they mentioned on every campaign that we take many factors into account and merit gained was one of them.
Overall on btt merit was needed to get rank and here it is not but still karma can become very important if admin decides to change the system as you requested.
-
If we skip quality, and only take the number of topics then the shiller will always be on the top and I doubt it will just be purely number based. It's a lot of work to scrutinize them either so we can help in any possible way for the staffs to organize the forum in a better way.
it is so easy to make new posts, new topics but it does not mean those new posts will be of quality and will actually generate good discussion among the forum
i still think posts counts should be rewarded but under certain conditions like maybe a post should have a certain amount of characters in order to be counted because if we just count the posts without checking its quality for sure this forum will be filled with useless, not thought provoking, and misinformation even
-
i still think posts counts should be rewarded but under certain conditions like maybe a post should have a certain amount of characters in order to be counted because if we just count the posts without checking its quality for sure this forum will be filled with useless, not thought provoking, and misinformation even
It's practically an impossible task to automate the quality of content cause it's neither decided by how many characters or even how many how many views on that post/thread. That's why we got to balance the thing with Karma system and ranking and posts are not counted in particular boards, finally the badges that deal with the abusers.
-
~snip~
Overall on btt merit was needed to get rank and here it is not but still karma can become very important if admin decides to change the system as you requested.
I don't think the admin will change the Karma system, unless it's part of the "big change or update" he said a few days ago. But it is possible that campaign managers, at some point, take into account users' Karma to accept them in campaigns. I think it's a matter of numbers, the more users who request to participate, the more conditions will have to be met, but those are just my assumptions.
it is so easy to make new posts, new topics but it does not mean those new posts will be of quality and will actually generate good discussion among the forum
i still think posts counts should be rewarded but under certain conditions like maybe a post should have a certain amount of characters in order to be counted because if we just count the posts without checking its quality for sure this forum will be filled with useless, not thought provoking, and misinformation even
It's true, making new posts is easy, but generating a conversation in which users participate is not always easy.
Posts are already rewarded, on the one hand, they are rewarded with new ranks, with points that you can exchange for ALTT tokens, and very good posts/threads, are rewarded with Karma, which can possibly also be exchanged for ALTT tokens in the future.
My "idea" was for example a thread like this: ✅ Stake your Bitcoin address (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=321705.0). This thread (which should definitely get an extra reward) not only makes users a little more secure in their forum accounts, but it also makes people learn a little more about how Bitcoin works, and that, in my opinion, has a lot of value.
There's a lot to think about to get it right, but it's worth it when it comes to improving the user experience.
-
I don't think the admin will change the Karma system, unless it's part of the "big change or update" he said a few days ago. But it is possible that campaign managers, at some point, take into account users' Karma to accept them in campaigns. I think it's a matter of numbers, the more users who request to participate, the more conditions will have to be met, but those are just my assumptions.
So he said recently! Well, if he said then there remain no questions, he won't be bringing such a system soon and I almost had the idea that he won't because the current system is good and needs just a little more time, maybe more traffic, then we might not even need a new system.
You made a good point about a number of users of ALTT, if they increase then managers have to take more factors into account, and number of Karma can be one of them too.
-
I don't think the admin will change the Karma system, unless it's part of the "big change or update" he said a few days ago. But it is possible that campaign managers, at some point, take into account users' Karma to accept them in campaigns. I think it's a matter of numbers, the more users who request to participate, the more conditions will have to be met, but those are just my assumptions.
yes of course if there are more people wanting to join a particular campaign the manager would have to be a lot pickier especially if there are only limited slots and this is also to control the quality of work each members brings in to the campaign
this is actually already common in the other forum which is why it has become extremely difficult to join campaigns there because only ones with huge merits can join and sometimes even with quality posts not many people are given the appropriate amount of merits which is unfortunate
so i think positive karmas can be a basis but should not be based entirely alone on that
-
I don't think the admin will change the Karma system, unless it's part of the "big change or update" he said a few days ago. But it is possible that campaign managers, at some point, take into account users' Karma to accept them in campaigns. I think it's a matter of numbers, the more users who request to participate, the more conditions will have to be met, but those are just my assumptions.
So he said recently! Well, if he said then there remain no questions, he won't be bringing such a system soon and I almost had the idea that he won't because the current system is good and needs just a little more time, maybe more traffic, then we might not even need a new system.
You made a good point about a number of users of ALTT, if they increase then managers have to take more factors into account, and number of Karma can be one of them too.
The admin also recently said there would be a forum "update" or something, but didn't elaborate further, so we'll have to wait.
yes of course if there are more people wanting to join a particular campaign the manager would have to be a lot pickier especially if there are only limited slots and this is also to control the quality of work each members brings in to the campaign
this is actually already common in the other forum which is why it has become extremely difficult to join campaigns there because only ones with huge merits can join and sometimes even with quality posts not many people are given the appropriate amount of merits which is unfortunate
so i think positive karmas can be a basis but should not be based entirely alone on that
Well, the BTT thing would give rise to very long, or almost eternal discussions, but it's something I'm not going to get into, although the truth is that I agree with you, some users I know from there sometimes comment on what you just said.
It's not about making Karma the central pillar of a user's account, but as I've said several times, it's something that could happen. Each manager has their own rules for campaigns.
-
I don't think the admin will change the Karma system, unless it's part of the "big change or update" he said a few days ago. But it is possible that campaign managers, at some point, take into account users' Karma to accept them in campaigns. I think it's a matter of numbers, the more users who request to participate, the more conditions will have to be met, but those are just my assumptions.
So he said recently! Well, if he said then there remain no questions, he won't be bringing such a system soon and I almost had the idea that he won't because the current system is good and needs just a little more time, maybe more traffic, then we might not even need a new system.
As an update to this discussion, the senate has passed a proposal (near unamiously) to pass karma restrictions for future ranking. No demotions, but a difficulty increase basically.
Hopefully this can be achieved this month if the implementation isn't too complicated, otherwise it might take longer.
See forum updates here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=325998.0
-
I don't think the admin will change the Karma system, unless it's part of the "big change or update" he said a few days ago. But it is possible that campaign managers, at some point, take into account users' Karma to accept them in campaigns. I think it's a matter of numbers, the more users who request to participate, the more conditions will have to be met, but those are just my assumptions.
So he said recently! Well, if he said then there remain no questions, he won't be bringing such a system soon and I almost had the idea that he won't because the current system is good and needs just a little more time, maybe more traffic, then we might not even need a new system.
You made a good point about a number of users of ALTT, if they increase then managers have to take more factors into account, and number of Karma can be one of them too.
Yeah, we definitely will get to that stage where number of karma a user own it have accumulated over a period of time will play a vital roll in them getting accepted into a good paying signature campaign, the forum itself might not be young but I believe we all know that it only started getting noticed not quite long ago, so, what ever suggestions we are making or bringing will definitely take some time before it gets implemented most especially when the suggestion already have a version that works as expected here.
The karma system right now works fine, and if admin said there won't be any changes anytime soon, it's very understandable because mainly considering facts, there are other parts of the forum that need urgent attention much faster and better than the Karma system, guess those are the areas the admin is focusing on at the moment.
-
~snip~
The karma system right now works fine, and if admin said there won't be any changes anytime soon, it's very understandable because mainly considering facts, there are other parts of the forum that need urgent attention much faster and better than the Karma system, guess those are the areas the admin is focusing on at the moment.
The Karma system won't change, but the way we access new ranks will. The admin is working on it, So, starting this month (the exact day is yet to be determined), certain amounts of Karma will be required to reach new ranks.
More information at this link: Forum updates (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=325998.0).
-
The Karma system won't change, but the way we access new ranks will. The admin is working on it, So, starting this month (the exact day is yet to be determined), certain amounts of Karma will be required to reach new ranks.
More information at this link: Forum updates (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=325998.0).
I think that will be fine, the karma system doesn't have to change. I didn't know the karma wasn't yet implemented as a requirement to certain rank. I taught some ranks from the higher ups required the karma to be archived.
-
~snip
Is this initiate active yet? With new karma requirements for ranks it'll be a great way to incentivize karma earning for those who seek it, and new topics have always been a major problem on this forum since forever. If there's a chance of improving that with karma bonuses, then should definitely be tested if possible. The initiative for d team has been going very well, so more of the same would be good :)
-
The karma system right now works fine, and if admin said there won't be any changes anytime soon, it's very understandable because mainly considering facts, there are other parts of the forum that need urgent attention much faster and better than the Karma system, guess those are the areas the admin is focusing on at the moment.
You are right, karma system seems to be working fine, but it is very not good looking if I said it right, as someone is legendary and have less than 50 karma, This mean, that person made lot of posts but the quality was not good that he/she could receive karma so that is not good.
Therefore if a person is getting ranked they should focus on getting karma too buy creating good posts. I don't want merit system here, I like this one more, because if we have something new, why we all wants to change into the one we are using already, at BTT, I really don't want it, because I can give karma to anyone, I like the most, but on BTT I have to gain merit first.
-
As an update to this discussion, the senate has passed a proposal (near unamiously) to pass karma restrictions for future ranking. No demotions, but a difficulty increase basically.
Hopefully this can be achieved this month if the implementation isn't too complicated, otherwise it might take longer.
See forum updates here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=325998.0
I was unaware of that thread, thanks for mentioning it, and it looks like I missed many updates too. Well, I read the karma-related post. It was difficult to understand, as I only read your post yet, but maybe after reading the whole thread, I will understand it.
Actually, there were some columns I did not understand. I will give you some time until then. I am happy that this forum is making progress.
-
Is this initiate active yet? With new karma requirements for ranks it'll be a great way to incentivize karma earning for those who seek it, and new topics have always been a major problem on this forum since forever. If there's a chance of improving that with karma bonuses, then should definitely be tested if possible. The initiative for d team has been going very well, so more of the same would be good :)
Yes, the initiative is still active, but I still need to refine some details. The most important thing is to find those new threads that can be rewarded, as the first post in this thread indicates.
Although most users don't take karma into account, the truth is that when the administrator implements the new system for achieving new ranks, it will be necessary, and all the available options for earning extra karma on the forum (D.Team, staking a Bitcoin address...) will be much more accepted and utilized.
-
Is this initiate active yet? With new karma requirements for ranks it'll be a great way to incentivize karma earning for those who seek it, and new topics have always been a major problem on this forum since forever. If there's a chance of improving that with karma bonuses, then should definitely be tested if possible. The initiative for d team has been going very well, so more of the same would be good :)
Yes, the initiative is still active, but I still need to refine some details. The most important thing is to find those new threads that can be rewarded, as the first post in this thread indicates.
Although most users don't take karma into account, the truth is that when the administrator implements the new system for achieving new ranks, it will be necessary, and all the available options for earning extra karma on the forum (D.Team, staking a Bitcoin address...) will be much more accepted and utilized.
Will add it to the forum updates topic as was missing this thread. Ideally we'd have an automated system whereby users receive +3 if there are X number of replies to the posts, ie along the lines of your proposal. But I realise implementation would likely be tricky, and there would be a lot of abuse, so it's best done manually.
Also do we have a new topics feed to monitor this, or would it require posting new topics to this thread? Apologies if already been discussed, I've missed a few pages of discussion...
-
Will add it to the forum updates topic as was missing this thread. Ideally we'd have an automated system whereby users receive +3 if there are X number of replies to the posts, ie along the lines of your proposal. But I realise implementation would likely be tricky, and there would be a lot of abuse, so it's best done manually.
Also do we have a new topics feed to monitor this, or would it require posting new topics to this thread? Apologies if already been discussed, I've missed a few pages of discussion...
There's no feed, so tracking would have to be done manually, with all the work that entails. But having to do it manually doesn't worry me. The difficult part, as I said, is finding good threads.
I guess that with the implementation of the new rank system, many users will try to earn additional karma with this initiative, in addition to those I already mentioned, so searching for threads might be easier.
Many things will change (especially the posting habits of some users) with the new implementations. I hope this will improve the overall quality of the forum.
-
Will add it to the forum updates topic as was missing this thread. Ideally we'd have an automated system whereby users receive +3 if there are X number of replies to the posts, ie along the lines of your proposal. But I realise implementation would likely be tricky, and there would be a lot of abuse, so it's best done manually.
Also do we have a new topics feed to monitor this, or would it require posting new topics to this thread? Apologies if already been discussed, I've missed a few pages of discussion...
There's no feed, so tracking would have to be done manually, with all the work that entails. But having to do it manually doesn't worry me. The difficult part, as I said, is finding good threads.
I guess that with the implementation of the new rank system, many users will try to earn additional karma with this initiative, in addition to those I already mentioned, so searching for threads might be easier.
Many things will change (especially the posting habits of some users) with the new implementations. I hope this will improve the overall quality of the forum.
Understood. In that case maybe a thread similar to btt where users can post their new topics, and other users can post topics that they believe deserve more than +1, as a sort of "New topics that deserve +karma" for example. It'd also help to get users more than +3 if others agree the OP deserves more karma for their contributions. Should probably also have some sort of 1 week or 1 month minimum age restriction, so that older topics that have already likely received +karma won't be included.
Sometimes I wonder if this sort of topic would work though in practice. I assume that most users who post new topics are aware this is where a considerable (likely most) of their karma comes from (often more than +3 per topic for high quality), but on the flipside those who don't create many topics probably don't realise this, so it's good to encourage it nonetheless. At least a topic with a central point of karma giving would be a good start here, as I'd certain participate even if just to add another +1.
-
Understood. In that case maybe a thread similar to btt where users can post their new topics, and other users can post topics that they believe deserve more than +1, as a sort of "New topics that deserve +karma" for example. It'd also help to get users more than +3 if others agree the OP deserves more karma for their contributions. Should probably also have some sort of 1 week or 1 month minimum age restriction, so that older topics that have already likely received +karma won't be included.
Sometimes I wonder if this sort of topic would work though in practice. I assume that most users who post new topics are aware this is where a considerable (likely most) of their karma comes from (often more than +3 per topic for high quality), but on the flipside those who don't create many topics probably don't realise this, so it's good to encourage it nonetheless. At least a topic with a central point of karma giving would be a good start here, as I'd certain participate even if just to add another +1.
I think it would be a good idea to create a "central" thread with links to new threads that could be included in this initiative. This would make it much easier for all users to find organized information so they could weigh in on which threads deserve additional Karma.
I have thought that, for example, the thread with the most posts each month could also receive some forum tokens (the admin sent me a batch of tokens a few weeks ago), and it would be interesting to be able to distribute them on things like this. There are still quite a few details left to discuss, but I like how the idea is taking shape.
-
I think it would be a good idea to create a "central" thread with links to new threads that could be included in this initiative. This would make it much easier for all users to find organized information so they could weigh in on which threads deserve additional Karma.
It can be very effective to keep track of the new threads than going through everything manually but still, it needs support from the community to make it happen. Like when someone creates a thread they also should post the link of the new thread for this to work better, if one of does the reporting job than again it will be easy to miss out few.
But we need something to change, I can see more activity and posts but still lack quality topics to concentrate the discussions.
-
It can be very effective to keep track of the new threads than going through everything manually but still, it needs support from the community to make it happen. Like when someone creates a thread they also should post the link of the new thread for this to work better, if one of does the reporting job than again it will be easy to miss out few.
But we need something to change, I can see more activity and posts but still lack quality topics to concentrate the discussions.
I believe many users will contribute to this initiative. Not only by creating good threads, but also by adding links from those threads to the central thread I mentioned yesterday. These users will also be rewarded with additional karma, which, as we already know, will soon be necessary to reach new ranks.
Regarding quality topics, I think the same. We should all strive for new ranks, and it will be easier if we create good threads that attract users' attention.
-
It can be very effective to keep track of the new threads than going through everything manually but still, it needs support from the community to make it happen. Like when someone creates a thread they also should post the link of the new thread for this to work better, if one of does the reporting job than again it will be easy to miss out few.
But we need something to change, I can see more activity and posts but still lack quality topics to concentrate the discussions.
In my opinion I think one of the best solution to fix these things is to increase the intensity of moderation on the forum this can be done by users being able to quickly report low quality or off topic posts to moderators so that they can be deleted if necessary this will keep subboards and boards with more organic posts.
The forum needs more activity and more traffic and I think it's part of the reasons moderation isn't really intense.
-
I think it would be a good idea to create a "central" thread with links to new threads that could be included in this initiative. This would make it much easier for all users to find organized information so they could weigh in on which threads deserve additional Karma.
It can be very effective to keep track of the new threads than going through everything manually but still, it needs support from the community to make it happen. Like when someone creates a thread they also should post the link of the new thread for this to work better, if one of does the reporting job than again it will be easy to miss out few.
PX-Z has agreed to create a feed for new topics, so this should help. Early next week all being well.
-
In my opinion I think one of the best solution to fix these things is to increase the intensity of moderation on the forum this can be done by users being able to quickly report low quality or off topic posts to moderators so that they can be deleted if necessary this will keep subboards and boards with more organic posts.
The forum needs more activity and more traffic and I think it's part of the reasons moderation isn't really intense.
We're taking steps in precisely that direction. Nothing is certain yet, but dragononcrypto has a good idea (which we are still discussing and polishing) that, if implemented, could significantly ease the workload.
The forum is growing every day, something I've been able to observe over the past few weeks, so we need to redouble our efforts, and to that end, dragononcrypto's idea would be of great help.
PX-Z has agreed to create a feed for new topics, so this should help. Early next week all being well.
Perfect, that would make the job of collecting links much easier.
-
This is a positive impression if we can be have a dedicated thread for that, there is a need for increasing activities here on the forum and we can also on our own try to introduce different opinions that could help shape the forum to the desired state we wanted it to have, quality posts should be given the due karma and the low quality ones should also be well treated as they appear with the required karma, this will help in many ways over the forum growth and increasing activities.
-
PX-Z has agreed to create a feed for new topics, so this should help. Early next week all being well.
Perfect, that would make the job of collecting links much easier.
Here's the page of the latest forum topics, i just apply custom date range picker so anyone can see topics from any dates. Sorry for a bit late though.
https://pxzone.online/altt/latest-topics
Let me know if you need something to add :)
-
Here's the page of the latest forum topics, i just apply custom date range picker so anyone can see topics from any dates. Sorry for a bit late though.
https://pxzone.online/altt/latest-topics
Let me know if you need something to add :)
Great! You can't imagine how much easier our work will be and how much time we'll save with this tool. Now we can start to shape the idea over the next few weeks.
You don't have to apologize for anything, it's the best time.
+15.
-
Here's the page of the latest forum topics, i just apply custom date range picker so anyone can see topics from any dates. Sorry for a bit late though.
https://pxzone.online/altt/latest-topics
Let me know if you need something to add :)
Great! You can't imagine how much easier our work will be and how much time we'll save with this tool. Now we can start to shape the idea over the next few weeks.
...
That's good to hear :) Feel free to let me know what's more to add, so i can add (if possible) when i have time.
-
Feel free to let me know what's more to add, so i can add (if possible) when i have time.
About karma logs, why not we have an option to sort the Karma logs of a specific user which Might be useful in some cases in my opinion.
Currently we have these options: (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/04/17/xBds1.png)
I have had this in mind for a while, but since you asked, I just wanted to let you know,
-
About karma logs, why not we have an option to sort the Karma logs of a specific user which Might be useful in some cases in my opinion.
Option to sort karma log of an specific user, like this below? Or might be something else?
https://pxzone.online/altt/karma-log?search=Findingnemo
-
About karma logs, why not we have an option to sort the Karma logs of a specific user which Might be useful in some cases in my opinion.
Option to sort karma log of an specific user, like this below? Or might be something else?
https://pxzone.online/altt/karma-log?search=Findingnemo
Thanks that is what exactly what I was suggesting I didn't know that before, so we need to replace the username of the specific you sir we want to find out it's the solution are we have a nation to navigate in the karma logs to access this feature.
I believe this will help anyone to keep track after progression and able to analyse their posting behaviour and help them to make better contribution towards the development of forum.