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Title: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Agbe on January 11, 2025, 05:12:23 PM
With the current economic situation of the country which has been charactarized by high inflation coupled with the fuel subsidy removal that has made fuel to has skyrocketed which has indirectly affected every single thing in the country am of the opinion that a special ministry of poverty aliviation be created to solve the problem of poverty because the rate of poverty has moved up to a unprecedented level as the current poverty aliviation programs of sharing rice and cartoons of Noodles to citizens is not helping matters but a special ministry that will empower Nigerian With skills that better equip Nigerian to face the economic challenges of the country
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Rruchi man on January 11, 2025, 11:52:22 PM
Any new ministry formed by our government will just be another organized crime unit to swindle and collect money from the government for personal purposes because the purposes for which the ministry was established will still be unfulfilled. A ministry of poverty alleviation will not solve all the serious problems that the economy is suffering.

Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Sim_card on January 12, 2025, 05:18:35 PM
This is another medium for them to steal funds easily. No more ministry is needed in Nigeria but we need more jobs and empowerment programs. This is why the NPower programme was initiated but it failed. Our leaders are corrupt and will fix their corrupt loyalist into those offices.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Penlex_Writer on January 13, 2025, 01:41:30 PM
With the current economic situation of the country which has been charactarized by high inflation coupled with the fuel subsidy removal that has made fuel to has skyrocketed which has indirectly affected every single thing in the country am of the opinion that a special ministry of poverty aliviation be created to solve the problem of poverty because the rate of poverty has moved up to a unprecedented level as the current poverty aliviation programs of sharing rice and cartoons of Noodles to citizens is not helping matters but a special ministry that will empower Nigerian With skills that better equip Nigerian to face the economic challenges of the country
whenever time i come across topics like this concerning the high rate of poverty in the country it get me angry alot,to be sincere the high rate of poverty is mich due to unemployment in the country,what is the government doing concerning this,we need the government to do something to minimize this rate of poverty.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Chilwell on January 14, 2025, 03:25:01 PM
With the current economic situation of the country which has been charactarized by high inflation coupled with the fuel subsidy removal that has made fuel to has skyrocketed which has indirectly affected every single thing in the country am of the opinion that a special ministry of poverty aliviation be created to solve the problem of poverty because the rate of poverty has moved up to a unprecedented level as the current poverty aliviation programs of sharing rice and cartoons of Noodles to citizens is not helping matters but a special ministry that will empower Nigerian With skills that better equip Nigerian to face the economic challenges of the country
we don't need any ministry in Nigeria again because I think adding another ministry is like adding another problem. We have several Ministries in Nigeria and we still didn't see any positive changes, how did you think adding another one will solve the problem. I don't think there would be anyone that will be able to alleviate property in Nigeria because the rate of inflection is increasing day by day, as they said "a bird in hand is better than thousand in the bush". And also they said "the devil you've known is better than the Angel you've not meet" if another ministry is introduce in Nigeria, I don't think he will have any good thing to do, or bring any improvement to the country, rather he/she will Focus on how to accumulate a lot of money just as other Ministries are doing,   as they said "two good head is better than one head",  we believed in this statement and that is why we chose a lot people to represent us and to bring growth and development to our country, but they disappointed us. If a lot of people cannot come together to solve the problem that you are facing in Nigeria how did you expect one person to come up with the idea and change our country for good.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: DragonF on January 14, 2025, 04:41:26 PM
Any new ministry formed by our government will just be another organized crime unit to swindle and collect money from the government for personal purposes because the purposes for which the ministry was established will still be unfulfilled. A ministry of poverty alleviation will not solve all the serious problems that the economy is suffering.

Exactly! It will even cause more problems because the government will undoubtedly fund the Ministry and provide terms of reference for the Ministry, allowing money to be wasted because, at the end of the day, the Ministry will be used to serve the government's greed.

Instead of benefiting the masses, the minister and other officials will see the ministry as a means to siphon funds. If our current Ministries can function effectively, many things will change, and we will experience good governance. So, rather than creating new ministries, I believe that the existing ones should be made to work.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Agbe on January 14, 2025, 10:22:17 PM
Any new ministry formed by our government will just be another organized crime unit to swindle and collect money from the government for personal purposes because the purposes for which the ministry was established will still be unfulfilled. A ministry of poverty alleviation will not solve all the serious problems that the economy is suffering.

Exactly! It will even cause more problems because the government will undoubtedly fund the Ministry and provide terms of reference for the Ministry, allowing money to be wasted because, at the end of the day, the Ministry will be used to serve the government's greed.

Instead of benefiting the masses, the minister and other officials will see the ministry as a means to siphon funds. If our current Ministries can function effectively, many things will change, and we will experience good governance. So, rather than creating new ministries, I believe that the existing ones should be made to work.
I understand what you're trying to say but looking at the poverty rate of the country presently the poverty gap is increasing so fast and the gap between the poor and the rich is becoming too wiped so creating a special ministry to look into the poverty rate in a view to addressing it will not be out of place because there is no ministry currently that is saddled with that responsibility so creating a ministry to addressing poverty related activities is not out of place but should be welcomed
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: DragonF on January 14, 2025, 10:46:40 PM
I understand what you're trying to say but looking at the poverty rate of the country presently the poverty gap is increasing so fast and the gap between the poor and the rich is becoming too wiped so creating a special ministry to look into the poverty rate in a view to addressing it will not be out of place because there is no ministry currently that is saddled with that responsibility so creating a ministry to addressing poverty related activities is not out of place but should be welcomed

You need to understand that Nigeria's poverty rate is the result of leadership's failure to harness our resources for national development. One of the reasons for rising poverty rates is that leaders compete for power with the goal of amassing wealth for themselves.

In Nigeria, we have a ministry called "Federal Ministry of Humanitarian Affairs, Disaster Management, and Social Development" tasked with alleviating poverty and improving citizens' well-being, but this ministry has done nothing tangible thus far, and the former minister even syphoned funds.

This means that our poverty rate is linked to the people in charge of our country's affairs, so creating a ministry of poverty alleviation will not change the leaders' mentalities, and it would also imply creating a ministry that already exists but will go by a different name, which I believe is unnecessary.

The Federal Ministry of Humanitarian Affairs, Disaster Management, and Social Development is already saddled with the responsibility you envisage.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Agbe on January 16, 2025, 07:49:31 PM
I understand what you're trying to say but looking at the poverty rate of the country presently the poverty gap is increasing so fast and the gap between the poor and the rich is becoming too wiped so creating a special ministry to look into the poverty rate in a view to addressing it will not be out of place because there is no ministry currently that is saddled with that responsibility so creating a ministry to addressing poverty related activities is not out of place but should be welcomed

You need to understand that Nigeria's poverty rate is the result of leadership's failure to harness our resources for national development. One of the reasons for rising poverty rates is that leaders compete for power with the goal of amassing wealth for themselves.

In Nigeria, we have a ministry called "Federal Ministry of Humanitarian Affairs, Disaster Management, and Social Development" tasked with alleviating poverty and improving citizens' well-being, but this ministry has done nothing tangible thus far, and the former minister even syphoned funds.

This means that our poverty rate is linked to the people in charge of our country's affairs, so creating a ministry of poverty alleviation will not change the leaders' mentalities, and it would also imply creating a ministry that already exists but will go by a different name, which I believe is unnecessary.

The Federal Ministry of Humanitarian Affairs, Disaster Management, and Social Development is already saddled with the responsibility you envisage.
I get what you are trying to say but the fact is that we can not generalize issues we can't say because one ministry has failed and use it as a point to do things for the common interests of the masses creating a special ministry of poverty aliviation will bring and make things a little bit easier for the people because there will be programs that will be put in place to make sure that things get more better in the country we know that corruption is a problem but we can't use corruption as an excuse because with the present economic situation we find ourselves in the country nigeria really needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Gurujebs on January 16, 2025, 07:53:22 PM
With the current economic situation of the country which has been charactarized by high inflation coupled with the fuel subsidy removal that has made fuel to has skyrocketed which has indirectly affected every single thing in the country am of the opinion that a special ministry of poverty aliviation be created to solve the problem of poverty because the rate of poverty has moved up to a unprecedented level as the current poverty aliviation programs of sharing rice and cartoons of Noodles to citizens is not helping matters but a special ministry that will empower Nigerian With skills that better equip Nigerian to face the economic challenges of the country

I just have to laugh seeing the headline because you know exactly where this implementation will end up. I saw a news yesterday that the Federal government is planning on distributing ₦70k to 70m people in 2025 among their plan to ease the economy for the people and guess what, that money will not reach $4m Nigerians, the rest will be looted.

Nigerians thinks President is there problem but everyone in the country is the problem of the system because tell me why the presidency will set a money aside for public but everyone involved takes their own percentage and then blame the government for misfortune. It's well.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: DragonF on January 16, 2025, 08:08:08 PM
I get what you are trying to say but the fact is that we can not generalize issues we can't say because one ministry has failed and use it as a point to do things for the common interests of the masses creating a special ministry of poverty aliviation will bring and make things a little bit easier for the people because there will be programs that will be put in place to make sure that things get more better in the country we know that corruption is a problem but we can't use corruption as an excuse because with the present economic situation we find ourselves in the country nigeria really needs a ministry of poverty aliviation

You seem to get the whole gist wrong. We already have a ministry with the same mandate you desire so what is the point of the proliferation? It will even be unwise to create such a ministry when we have such a ministry already. A ministry must not bear the name ministry of poverty alleviation before you realize that we already have a ministry in existence that is geared towards poverty alleviation.

In the past we even had some poverty alleviation programmes that failed due to corruption and as you noted corruption has always been our problem. We should be more concerned about fighting corruption and not creating more ministries. Maybe you are not aware that some ministries were recently merged to tell us that proliferation of ministries is never a solution to Nigeria's poverty rate.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Cryptsafe on January 16, 2025, 10:51:01 PM
OP, I will disagree with this opinion of yours here, there is no need creating a new ministry when there are many poverty  alleviation programmes initiated by the government through various ministries and parastatals. We've not really seen or heard anything from these programmes but only public announcement of disbursement of funds to possibly their croonies and lackies. It is unfortunate that anything of this nature is a conduit for embezzlement and siphoning of our resources.
If you think this ministry is needed, then the government should revive other already existing poverty alleviation programmes initiated and begin to perform their duties for what the programmes were initiated for but the truth is that we all know that the funds will not get to the people it was meant for but rather the  powers that be would do their dirty deeds and walk away with it.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Mia Chloe on January 16, 2025, 11:05:48 PM
With the current economic situation of the country which has been charactarized by high inflation coupled with the fuel subsidy removal that has made fuel to has skyrocketed which has indirectly affected every single thing in the country am of the opinion that a special ministry of poverty aliviation be created to solve the problem of poverty .
All those so-called giveaways done by politicians, influencers and so on and so forth, are not and will never be the best way to elevate poverty from a masses. Sharing things like food items will only give them the ability to probably eat for a while and then the effect of inflation and poverty hits back soonest. The problem is not always money but the value of money.

Like I always say it's high time the government starts looking into the important things that needs to be fixed rather than a for the moment hype kinda stuff like sharing food items.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 17, 2025, 09:20:02 PM
Ministry of poverty alleviation is funny to hear, honestly and we may not have gone this far with challenges had it been that ever other ministries are doing their job effectively, there's not going to be any changes even if the government should institute 10 additional ministries to tackle poverty, what we have are currently enough to satisfy everyone in circulation, but the greedy ones won't allow for that, the so called corrupt leaders are too greedy from allowing everyone to have equal rights, except everyone changes their way of thinking and get things done the right way.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Cryptsafe on January 17, 2025, 09:47:17 PM
Ministry of poverty alleviation is funny to hear, honestly and we may not have gone this far with challenges had it been that ever other ministries are doing their job effectively, there's not going to be any changes even if the government should institute 10 additional ministries to tackle poverty, what we have are currently enough to satisfy everyone in circulation, but the greedy ones won't allow for that, the so called corrupt leaders are too greedy from allowing everyone to have equal rights, except everyone changes their way of thinking and get things done the right way.

It is not feasible to think of though because it would be another channel of embezzlement of our resources. The problem in Nigeria is far beyond poverty alleviation, the government just needs to purge itself of its correct officials and their ill practices if it wants things to work perfectly well in the country. Nigeria as a nation is blessed and endowed with natural resources that could sustain her development and economy perfectly well but the powers that be do not want things to work properly. We hear of loans secured from the World Bank, and what have they used it for, we hear of the Abacha loot that was returned, where is it and what have they used it for? many unanswered questions await our leaders both old and present.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Igebotz on January 18, 2025, 06:32:19 PM
With the current economic situation of the country which has been charactarized by high inflation coupled with the fuel subsidy removal that has made fuel to has skyrocketed which has indirectly affected every single thing in the country am of the opinion that a special ministry of poverty aliviation be created to solve the problem of poverty because the rate of poverty has moved up to a unprecedented level as the current poverty aliviation programs of sharing rice and cartoons of Noodles to citizens is not helping matters but a special ministry that will empower Nigerian With skills that better equip Nigerian to face the economic challenges of the country

Isn't why the Humanitarian Affairs and Poverty Alleviation Ministry was created under the last administration and both the past and present ( suspended) ministers turned it into a money heist?

The ministry is currently without a minister after Edu Betty was suspended for transferring $640k public funds to her personal bank account 5 months after she was appointed. The former minister Sadiya Umar Farouq also loted N30b public funds and was later recovered by the EFCC, that ministry has been shady.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Agbe on January 19, 2025, 12:02:25 PM
With the current economic situation of the country which has been charactarized by high inflation coupled with the fuel subsidy removal that has made fuel to has skyrocketed which has indirectly affected every single thing in the country am of the opinion that a special ministry of poverty aliviation be created to solve the problem of poverty because the rate of poverty has moved up to a unprecedented level as the current poverty aliviation programs of sharing rice and cartoons of Noodles to citizens is not helping matters but a special ministry that will empower Nigerian With skills that better equip Nigerian to face the economic challenges of the country

Isn't why the Humanitarian Affairs and Poverty Alleviation Ministry was created under the last administration and both the past and present ( suspended) ministers turned it into a money heist?

The ministry is currently without a minister after Edu Betty was suspended for transferring $640k public funds to her personal bank account 5 months after she was appointed. The former minister Sadiya Umar Farouq also loted N30b public funds and was later recovered by the EFCC, that ministry has been shady.
Corruption has been the greatest problem of the Nigerian public servants that is why we have found our self in this present economic situation in the country a situation where any leader that comes to power is looking for a way to loot public funds and going away with it and with this kind of things happening we can't do anything meaningful if not a ministry of poverty aliviation will have functions very well and bring up modalities on how to reduce poverty in the country because the poverty rate in the country is alarming
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: DragonF on January 21, 2025, 07:20:52 AM
Corruption has been the greatest problem of the Nigerian public servants that is why we have found our self in this present economic situation in the country a situation where any leader that comes to power is looking for a way to loot public funds and going away with it and with this kind of things happening we can't do anything meaningful if not a ministry of poverty aliviation will have functions very well and bring up modalities on how to reduce poverty in the country because the poverty rate in the country is alarming

Yes, corruption is the evil that plagues the country, and I believe the focus should be on combating corruption. Our country has an abundance of resources to alleviate poverty, but unfortunately, only a small number of people benefit from them. This is why everyone wants to enter politics in order to become a member of the elite who control the country's treasury.

Until corruption is eradicated, no development ideas can be sustainable. If there had been no corruption, there would be no need for the Ministry of Poverty Alleviation to be established because everyone would be well-off. If a water tank leaks, do you continue to pump water to cover it?

I believe you would rather find a way to cover the leakage or replace the water tank. So it is in the fight against corruption. You do not keep creating ministries when the root cause of poverty has not been addressed. If corruption is tackled, we will all sing hallelujah songs. 
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Igebotz on January 22, 2025, 09:07:25 AM
Isn't why the Humanitarian Affairs and Poverty Alleviation Ministry was created under the last administration and both the past and present ( suspended) ministers turned it into a money heist?

The ministry is currently without a minister after Edu Betty was suspended for transferring $640k public funds to her personal bank account 5 months after she was appointed. The former minister Sadiya Umar Farouq also loted N30b public funds and was later recovered by the EFCC, that ministry has been shady.
Corruption has been the greatest problem of the Nigerian public servants that is why we have found our self in this present economic situation in the country a situation where any leader that comes to power is looking for a way to loot public funds and going away with it and with this kind of things happening we can't do anything meaningful if not a ministry of poverty aliviation will have functions very well and bring up modalities on how to reduce poverty in the country because the poverty rate in the country is alarming

As long as there is no capital sentence for politicians proven guilty of mismanagement of public funds, criminals will continue to seek office to pillage public funds.

These were the internal crimes that the EFCC was established to handle, but their primary attention has switched to target local Internet fraudsters, ignoring politicians who have stolen billions of naira from taxpayers.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Mia Chloe on January 23, 2025, 10:14:33 PM
As long as there is no capital sentence for politicians proven guilty of mismanagement of public funds, criminals will continue to seek office to pillage public funds.
These were the internal crimes that the EFCC was established to handle, but their primary attention has switched to target local Internet fraudsters, ignoring politicians who have stolen billions of naira from taxpayers.
The problem is simply corruption and it has to be reduced as much as possible. The fact is that although corruption cannot be 100% eradicated from the system, it still needs to be reduced to the barest minimum and  that's exactly what is missing in the system currently. Corruption has eaten too deep into the system up to the extent that it's more like many have even given up on the system.

The Nigerian economy is crumbling every day that passes by and that is so obvious from the value of our currency depreciating every single day. Natural resources aren't being managed to the maximum to improve the economy.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Cryptsafe on January 23, 2025, 11:02:40 PM
As long as there is no capital sentence for politicians proven guilty of mismanagement of public funds, criminals will continue to seek office to pillage public funds.
These were the internal crimes that the EFCC was established to handle, but their primary attention has switched to target local Internet fraudsters, ignoring politicians who have stolen billions of naira from taxpayers.
The problem is simply corruption and it has to be reduced as much as possible. The fact is that although corruption cannot be 100% eradicated from the system, it still needs to be reduced to the barest minimum and  that's exactly what is missing in the system currently. Corruption has eaten too deep into the system up to the extent that it's more like many have even given up on the system.

The Nigerian economy is crumbling every day that passes by and that is so obvious from the value of our currency depreciating every single day. Natural resources aren't being managed to the maximum to improve the economy.

The system is messed up so badly that the agencies are just toothless bulldogs. There is no way corruption can be eradicated when the heads of the agencies are handpicked by their criminal-minded bosses to cover up their mess in power. I have said in my previous posts that until government agencies are independent of political appointment, they would only be dancing to the tone of their paymasters and there is nothing anyone can do about it since the constitution permits them to do so.

As it stands now, the slogan I am hearing is "If you can't beat them, you join them" That is what is currently happening. Since the genuine and honest ones can not stop the process, they had to join them because it is our common resources they are dwindling like this, and to them, it will be very bad that the money is passing them without them taking their share when they know it is the national cake they are missing so they would have no option than to join them because if they don't, they miss out looking at the situation of the country now. It is so bad that the ones that are for real are beginning to join them just to make sure they survive now. The whole system messed up that badly.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: DragonF on January 24, 2025, 10:28:30 AM
The system is messed up so badly that the agencies are just toothless bulldogs. There is no way corruption can be eradicated when the heads of the agencies are handpicked by their criminal-minded bosses to cover up their mess in power. I have said in my previous posts that until government agencies are independent of political appointment, they would only be dancing to the tone of their paymasters and there is nothing anyone can do about it since the constitution permits them to do so.

It is unfortunate that these agencies are used to fight and persecute political opponents. Corrupt politicians who are members of the ruling party frequently get away with their corrupt practices and even receive new appointments despite their corruption charges. It is even more pathetic when you consider that an EFCC chairman has been found to be corrupt. I mean the case of the former EFCC chairman, Abdulrasheed Bawa, 

This implies that there is no integrity check on these individuals before they are appointed to lead the agency. As you mentioned, these appointments are political, so they must act as instructed. The agency cannot investigate any politician with government backing, or they risk losing their jobs. This has undermined the agency's role in combating corruption. 
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Cryptsafe on January 24, 2025, 04:55:06 PM
The system is messed up so badly that the agencies are just toothless bulldogs. There is no way corruption can be eradicated when the heads of the agencies are handpicked by their criminal-minded bosses to cover up their mess in power. I have said in my previous posts that until government agencies are independent of political appointment, they would only be dancing to the tone of their paymasters and there is nothing anyone can do about it since the constitution permits them to do so.

It is unfortunate that these agencies are used to fight and persecute political opponents. Corrupt politicians who are members of the ruling party frequently get away with their corrupt practices and even receive new appointments despite their corruption charges. It is even more pathetic when you consider that an EFCC chairman has been found to be corrupt. I mean the case of the former EFCC chairman, Abdulrasheed Bawa, 

This implies that there is no integrity check on these individuals before they are appointed to lead the agency. As you mentioned, these appointments are political, so they must act as instructed. The agency cannot investigate any politician with government backing, or they risk losing their jobs. This has undermined the agency's role in combating corruption.

This is more like the saying that says " you can not bite the hands that feed you" This is the situation of our agencies, they can not do more than they can control as everything is beyond them because they would have to play along with their paymaster to making sure they remain in power.

The power that be always wants it all so who dares run an integrity check on their anointed. Their boys are scattered all over the agencies doing their bindings so that they are not exposed, from their head down to the least are all the same you just can not see any genuine person there anymore as all are the same.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Stuart on January 24, 2025, 05:48:44 PM
Truly, Nigerians needs Poverty Alleviation Body, Scheme or Unit, but Nigeria doesn't need it. Any form of governmental body created, it will be corrupted and any form of generating of funds will be taken for self purpose. Poverty has become part of the country's economy, with daily depreciation of the economy of the country.
The rulers and leaders of the country has destroyed the image of the country.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Stuart on January 24, 2025, 06:06:20 PM
As long as there is no capital sentence for politicians proven guilty of mismanagement of public funds, criminals will continue to seek office to pillage public funds.
These were the internal crimes that the EFCC was established to handle, but their primary attention has switched to target local Internet fraudsters, ignoring politicians who have stolen billions of naira from taxpayers.
The problem is simply corruption and it has to be reduced as much as possible. The fact is that although corruption cannot be 100% eradicated from the system, it still needs to be reduced to the barest minimum and  that's exactly what is missing in the system currently. Corruption has eaten too deep into the system up to the extent that it's more like many have even given up on the system.

The Nigerian economy is crumbling every day that passes by and that is so obvious from the value of our currency depreciating every single day. Natural resources aren't being managed to the maximum to improve the economy.

The system is messed up so badly that the agencies are just toothless bulldogs. There is no way corruption can be eradicated when the heads of the agencies are handpicked by their criminal-minded bosses to cover up their mess in power. I have said in my previous posts that until government agencies are independent of political appointment, they would only be dancing to the tone of their paymasters and there is nothing anyone can do about it since the constitution permits them to do so.
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They really are toothless bulldogs, they use their titles and uniform to intimidate the poor and those outside of the governmental bodies. And even when they want to act as if they are standing for justice, because they pay obedience to those on top of the hierarchy of governmental position.

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As it stands now, the slogan I am hearing is "If you can't beat them, you join them" That is what is currently happening. Since the genuine and honest ones can not stop the process, they had to join them because it is our common resources they are dwindling like this, and to them, it will be very bad that the money is passing them without them taking their share when they know it is the national cake they are missing so they would have no option than to join them because if they don't, they miss out looking at the situation of the country now. It is so bad that the ones that are for real are beginning to join them just to make sure they survive now. The whole system messed up that badly.

As for the slogan, those who continues to fight ends up being used. For those in the government parastatals, there's no other option than to join them. As for the civilians, it is better to stay alone or away from those who call themselves politicians in the country, than to join them, cause Everything they touch gets contaminated and without cure.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Cryptsafe on January 24, 2025, 10:28:15 PM
As long as there is no capital sentence for politicians proven guilty of mismanagement of public funds, criminals will continue to seek office to pillage public funds.
These were the internal crimes that the EFCC was established to handle, but their primary attention has switched to target local Internet fraudsters, ignoring politicians who have stolen billions of naira from taxpayers.
The problem is simply corruption and it has to be reduced as much as possible. The fact is that although corruption cannot be 100% eradicated from the system, it still needs to be reduced to the barest minimum and  that's exactly what is missing in the system currently. Corruption has eaten too deep into the system up to the extent that it's more like many have even given up on the system.

The Nigerian economy is crumbling every day that passes by and that is so obvious from the value of our currency depreciating every single day. Natural resources aren't being managed to the maximum to improve the economy.

The system is messed up so badly that the agencies are just toothless bulldogs. There is no way corruption can be eradicated when the heads of the agencies are handpicked by their criminal-minded bosses to cover up their mess in power. I have said in my previous posts that until government agencies are independent of political appointment, they would only be dancing to the tone of their paymasters and there is nothing anyone can do about it since the constitution permits them to do so.
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They really are toothless bulldogs, they use their titles and uniform to intimidate the poor and those outside of the governmental bodies. And even when they want to act as if they are standing for justice, because they pay obedience to those on top of the hierarchy of governmental position.

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As it stands now, the slogan I am hearing is "If you can't beat them, you join them" That is what is currently happening. Since the genuine and honest ones can not stop the process, they had to join them because it is our common resources they are dwindling like this, and to them, it will be very bad that the money is passing them without them taking their share when they know it is the national cake they are missing so they would have no option than to join them because if they don't, they miss out looking at the situation of the country now. It is so bad that the ones that are for real are beginning to join them just to make sure they survive now. The whole system messed up that badly.

As for the slogan, those who continues to fight ends up being used. For those in the government parastatals, there's no other option than to join them. As for the civilians, it is better to stay alone or away from those who call themselves politicians in the country, than to join them, cause Everything they touch gets contaminated and without cure.

What do you expect of them when they are on a payroll bankrolled by the powers that be coupled with the pass they give them to loot and embezzle funds. It is a pity that the heads of agencies are now turning ceremonial heads and tittle holders in government without any clear ambition, goal and focus. All they could do is to intimidate the poor , harass the  youths that are striving for the best to make impart in their lives and society. Is unfortunate were we found ourselves in our beloved nation.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Mia Chloe on January 24, 2025, 10:44:34 PM
What do you expect of them when they are on a payroll bankrolled by the powers that be coupled with the pass they give them to loot and embezzle funds. It is a pity that the heads of agencies are now turning ceremonial heads and tittle holders in government without any clear ambition, goal and focus. All they could do is to intimidate the poor , harass the  youths that are striving for the best to make impart in their lives and society. Is unfortunate were we found ourselves in our beloved nation.
The thing is everyone is trying to be optimistic about positive things that could happen to the economy but the problem is it isn't working out instead everything is getting even worse the economy is crumbling natural resources are being wasted and exploited wrongly. There are many countries are there that don't have 1/4 of the natural resources we have here in Nigeria but still their economy has a progress rate almost triple times ours.
The value of the Naira is so low that you hardly or frankly speaking you can't even find a broker that offers it as a currency pair to even trade.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Igebotz on January 24, 2025, 10:58:22 PM
This implies that there is no integrity check on these individuals before they are appointed to lead the agency. As you mentioned, these appointments are political, so they must act as instructed. The agency cannot investigate any politician with government backing, or they risk losing their jobs. This has undermined the agency's role in combating corruption.


This is only the few ones published publicly for eye service. Just few days ago an agent of the commission broke into evidence room and cart away $30k and a vehicle. How do you fight corruption when there's more internal corruption within the institutions.

EFCC Dismisses 27 Officers for Fraudulent Activities, Misconduct (https://www.efcc.gov.ng/efcc/news-and-information/news-release/10601-efcc-dismisses-27-officers-for-fraudulent-activities-misconduct)
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Cryptsafe on January 24, 2025, 11:15:15 PM
What do you expect of them when they are on a payroll bankrolled by the powers that be coupled with the pass they give them to loot and embezzle funds. It is a pity that the heads of agencies are now turning ceremonial heads and tittle holders in government without any clear ambition, goal and focus. All they could do is to intimidate the poor , harass the  youths that are striving for the best to make impart in their lives and society. Is unfortunate were we found ourselves in our beloved nation.
The thing is everyone is trying to be optimistic about positive things that could happen to the economy but the problem is it isn't working out instead everything is getting even worse the economy is crumbling natural resources are being wasted and exploited wrongly. There are many countries are there that don't have 1/4 of the natural resources we have here in Nigeria but still their economy has a progress rate almost triple times ours.
The value of the Naira is so low that you hardly or frankly speaking you can't even find a broker that offers it as a currency pair to even trade.

Of a truth, we are optimistic about good progress in our country but when the head is corrupt how do you expect the other parts and branches to do, this country is so blessed with natural and human resources but the powers that be are just mismanaging everything, no functional refineries, no factories, no industry nothing but all they do is just to drill and export to their companies abroad to refine and send them back to us to buy times 2 of what we are supposed to pay. The same people are the ones killing the naira value because virtually all they use are imported, they do not use locally made products but foreign. Now tell me who do you think causes the naira value to depreciate more? Do the poor and average citizens have the capacity to import things just like the high and mighty?
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Mia Chloe on January 24, 2025, 11:26:36 PM
The same people are the ones killing the naira value because virtually all they use are imported, they do not use locally made products but foreign. Now tell me who do you think causes the naira value to depreciate more? Do the poor and average citizens have the capacity to import things just like the high and mighty?
Being optimistic isn't a bad thing however at this stage of the economy it isn't going to help matters at all what will need is actually a proper government setting that will boost the economy and nothing more. Its a big shame that's that the Naira against other currencies like euro and USD is nothing to write home about frankly speaking it's not available for trading like I said earlier and the only places you can view it is something like tradingview if you are familiar with it.

And there you have it importation!! another huge problem that the economy is facing we literally import every single thing and pay unnecessary tariff and costs which makes no sense.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Cryptsafe on January 25, 2025, 07:57:39 PM
The same people are the ones killing the naira value because virtually all they use are imported, they do not use locally made products but foreign. Now tell me who do you think causes the naira value to depreciate more? Do the poor and average citizens have the capacity to import things just like the high and mighty?
Being optimistic isn't a bad thing however at this stage of the economy it isn't going to help matters at all what will need is actually a proper government setting that will boost the economy and nothing more. Its a big shame that's that the Naira against other currencies like euro and USD is nothing to write home about frankly speaking it's not available for trading like I said earlier and the only places you can view it is something like tradingview if you are familiar with it.

And there you have it importation!! another huge problem that the economy is facing we literally import every single thing and pay unnecessary tariff and costs which makes no sense.

We have long been hearing about a government that would boost our economy and still yet any government that comes into power does worse than its predecessor. It is a kind of tenure economy inflation whereany government that assumes office causes inflation and under their watch things go wrong in the country worst than they met it. As it stands now no nation is looking at naira anymore as the naira value has faded away coupled with the lackadaisical approach of our leaders to economic situation of our country.

Excessive importation long killed our economy, local production is not encouraged as the high and mighty opt for importation of goods and services which ordinarily could be produced here but out of greed and selfishness, to also milk the nation dry through their so called subsidy, they keep frustrating the localproducers so that they would be discouraged paving way for importation, what a country.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Mia Chloe on January 25, 2025, 09:56:27 PM
Excessive importation long killed our economy, local production is not encouraged as the high and mighty opt for importation of goods and services which ordinarily could be produced here but out of greed and selfishness, to also milk the nation dry through their so called subsidy, they keep frustrating the localproducers so that they would be discouraged paving way for importation, what a country.
Well the Idea of a poverty aliviation ministry , set up or committee isn't something I really fancy because from an angle, it's probably some other way for funds to be looted through the loop hole of helping the said masses and in the end everything ends up being faked via useless documentation and boom they get a net amount spent at x...... Only for them to actually spend far less even up to just x/10 only.

It's high time these schemes were shunned and the concept of things like this fade away. If the economy is actually being improved and fixed that will definitely fix the poverty rate too.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Cryptsafe on January 29, 2025, 10:23:54 AM
Excessive importation long killed our economy, local production is not encouraged as the high and mighty opt for importation of goods and services which ordinarily could be produced here but out of greed and selfishness, to also milk the nation dry through their so called subsidy, they keep frustrating the localproducers so that they would be discouraged paving way for importation, what a country.
Well the Idea of a poverty aliviation ministry , set up or committee isn't something I really fancy because from an angle, it's probably some other way for funds to be looted through the loop hole of helping the said masses and in the end everything ends up being faked via useless documentation and boom they get a net amount spent at x...... Only for them to actually spend far less even up to just x/10 only.

It's high time these schemes were shunned and the concept of things like this fade away. If the economy is actually being improved and fixed that will definitely fix the poverty rate too.

From the onset, I never liked the idea of a poverty alleviation program because that is always a conduit for embezzlement as our leaders and politicians are fond of doing such. All the past poverty programmes initiated how far about them? how did they go about the funds involved?  You see all these stuffs are mostly what they use to settle themselves and not even a dime is given to the real people that are meant to receive them. I doubt that if they still establish such a ministry, it would function as it is supposed to without the politicians interfering with the process to embezzle from it.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Bozi on February 02, 2025, 05:44:15 PM
There will be a lot of problems with such a
Ministry because of corruption. What will be the modalities for considering who and who is to be given grants or tokens. A lot of people are leaving below the poverty mark given by the United Nations, so if this Ministry is created almost 90 percent of Nigerians will feel entitled to the palliatives from such Ministry. The corrupt politicians who are in charge will definitely want to enrich their pockets more than they would want to alleviate the poverty of Nigerians
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Chilwell on February 04, 2025, 01:58:48 PM
There will be a lot of problems with such a
Ministry because of corruption. What will be the modalities for considering who and who is to be given grants or tokens. A lot of people are leaving below the poverty mark given by the United Nations, so if this Ministry is created almost 90 percent of Nigerians will feel entitled to the palliatives from such Ministry. The corrupt politicians who are in charge will definitely want to enrich their pockets more than they would want to alleviate the poverty of Nigerians
The situation of the country is getting out of hand, and it is becoming unbearable to us. Introducing another ministry would be like introducing another problem, because he will also be planning on how to stabilize his own financial situation. I don't think we still have a saint or virtuous in this world again, and even if there is, they will be difficult to find. Any ministry that they introduce now to alleviate poverty in Nigeria will have nothing to do about it. Rather he will still follow the orders of the people that are in power before him, and if he refuses or fail to do so, and didn't cooperate with them, they will do what they has to do to bring him down. Nigerians are really facing a lot of problems, difficulties, instability, and challenges. Corruption, bribery, injustice and discrimination full everywhere, but we just pray that everything should go back to normal.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Agbe on February 04, 2025, 03:28:55 PM
There will be a lot of problems with such a
Ministry because of corruption. What will be the modalities for considering who and who is to be given grants or tokens. A lot of people are leaving below the poverty mark given by the United Nations, so if this Ministry is created almost 90 percent of Nigerians will feel entitled to the palliatives from such Ministry. The corrupt politicians who are in charge will definitely want to enrich their pockets more than they would want to alleviate the poverty of Nigerians
The situation of the country is getting out of hand, and it is becoming unbearable to us. Introducing another ministry would be like introducing another problem, because he will also be planning on how to stabilize his own financial situation. I don't think we still have a saint or virtuous in this world again, and even if there is, they will be difficult to find. Any ministry that they introduce now to alleviate poverty in Nigeria will have nothing to do about it. Rather he will still follow the orders of the people that are in power before him, and if he refuses or fail to do so, and didn't cooperate with them, they will do what they has to do to bring him down. Nigerians are really facing a lot of problems, difficulties, instability, and challenges. Corruption, bribery, injustice and discrimination full everywhere, but we just pray that everything should go back to normal.
We that there is corruption in the country but looking at the poverty line in the country there's need for a ministry like this because the poverty rate is on the high and a ministry like this will at least bring a level of help to the poor masses creating a special ministry will give more attention to the issues of poverty aliviation because the current ministry of humanitarian affairs is a broad ministry that covers different things so it will be wise and help full to have a ministry like this
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Sim_card on February 05, 2025, 06:56:28 PM
Excessive importation long killed our economy, local production is not encouraged as the high and mighty opt for importation of goods and services which ordinarily could be produced here but out of greed and selfishness, to also milk the nation dry through their so called subsidy, they keep frustrating the localproducers so that they would be discouraged paving way for importation, what a country.
Well the Idea of a poverty aliviation ministry , set up or committee isn't something I really fancy because from an angle, it's probably some other way for funds to be looted through the loop hole of helping the said masses and in the end everything ends up being faked via useless documentation and boom they get a net amount spent at x...... Only for them to actually spend far less even up to just x/10 only.

It's high time these schemes were shunned and the concept of things like this fade away. If the economy is actually being improved and fixed that will definitely fix the poverty rate too.
It's still the same corrupt people that will be in the new ministry and looting will be the order of the day as usual. The government sees every opportunity as a means to loot for themselves regardless of the purpose of the project. This is why such ministry is not needed. Imagine the last ministry that was created during Buhari tenure, Ministry of Humanitarian Affairs was to empower themselves through the funds going into that ministry.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: DragonF on February 05, 2025, 07:30:30 PM
It's still the same corrupt people that will be in the new ministry and looting will be the order of the day as usual. The government sees every opportunity as a means to loot for themselves regardless of the purpose of the project. This is why such ministry is not needed. Imagine the last ministry that was created during Buhari tenure, Ministry of Humanitarian Affairs was to empower themselves through the funds going into that ministry.

Nothing is surprising anymore in Nigeria. After all, appointments in Nigeria are made to satisfy loyalists. When the government appoints loyalists to head ministries, they do not want them to work because the appointment serves as a settlement, which is why selfless and visionary individuals are not appointed because they are not part of the government's cabal.

This is why the government rarely pursues politicians who have siphoned money, knowing that the appointment was made so that those politicians could amass wealth. If the government can change the way appointments are made, we will have better people in leadership positions. 
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Mia Chloe on February 05, 2025, 10:41:29 PM
It's still the same corrupt people that will be in the new ministry and looting will be the order of the day as usual. The government sees every opportunity as a means to loot for themselves regardless of the purpose of the project.
That is basically the point. The country doesn't need a poverty elevation team like the title of this thread actually suggests does basically because the steps or rather actions that such a team will take will just be of temporary effects and that isn't what would solve the big problem.

The economy of the country needs to be generally touched and remanaged properly else a poverty elevation team would just be almost useless since the social amenity shared will fade of in no time.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: DragonF on February 06, 2025, 12:00:42 AM
The economy of the country needs to be generally touched and remanaged properly else a poverty elevation team would just be almost useless since the social amenity shared will fade of in no time.

There are experts who have suggested ways to manage our economy in order to bring development to the country, but those measures are not being implemented by the government because the government is always only concerned with their personal advancement, and revamping the economy will not benefit them as individuals, so it is of no interest to them.

The worst part is that most people appointed as ministers of the Federal Ministry of Budget and Economic Planning have no knowledge of economic planning, which is why we have yet to see meaningful economic development in Nigeria.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Mia Chloe on February 06, 2025, 10:25:40 AM
The worst part is that most people appointed as ministers of the Federal Ministry of Budget and Economic Planning have no knowledge of economic planning, which is why we have yet to see meaningful economic development in Nigeria.
The whole thing is already messed up however what's the country actually needs now is more of action rather than suggestions and open speeches. Basically suggestions don't fix the problems rather they give possible ways of fixing them and also creates the sense of awareness of all the flaws that need to be fixed.

At the current state of the economy it's not so new a problem that people would need to the made properly aware of. The more talks are done the more degradation continues.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Igebotz on February 06, 2025, 05:22:43 PM
There is no need to create another Ministry when we already have so many that are dysfunctional. Creating more will cost the country. If all ministries function properly, poverty in the country will be drastically reduced; however, because the president continues to negotiate the Ministry with his political friends and associates, the poverty rate will continue to rise because they are only in the Ministry to loot funds and not to work for the benefit of the common people.

Nigeria already has numerous poverty alleviation projects, ranging from the presidential poverty alleviation program to government agencies, but poverty continues to rise in the country. Most of the initiatives are scams; they take money from people for registration and then defraud them of their hard-earned money. While some, those who are given the responsibility to organise misused funds intended for the public. It's ridiculous that such people are in charge of our country. Instead of developing new ministries to alleviate poverty, the government should focus on improving the existing ones.

Instead of creating more Ministry for poverty aliavation the government should focus on how to make the existing ones work.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Chidzosh99 on March 10, 2025, 09:55:10 PM
With the current economic situation of the country which has been charactarized by high inflation coupled with the fuel subsidy removal that has made fuel to has skyrocketed which has indirectly affected every single thing in the country am of the opinion that a special ministry of poverty aliviation be created to solve the problem of poverty because the rate of poverty has moved up to a unprecedented level as the current poverty aliviation programs of sharing rice and cartoons of Noodles to citizens is not helping matters but a special ministry that will empower Nigerian With skills that better equip Nigerian to face the economic challenges of the country
Creating a special ministry for poverty alleviation sounds good in theory, but the real issue isn’t the lack of ministries—it’s poor governance and mismanagement. Instead of another bureaucracy, the government should focus on real economic reforms, job creation, and skill development programs that actually empower Nigerians. Handing out rice and noodles is not a solution; we need sustainable policies that address the root causes of poverty.
Title: Re: Nigeria needs a ministry of poverty aliviation
Post by: Joshikinz on March 13, 2025, 06:42:46 AM
With the current economic situation of the country which has been charactarized by high inflation coupled with the fuel subsidy removal that has made fuel to has skyrocketed which has indirectly affected every single thing in the country am of the opinion that a special ministry of poverty aliviation be created to solve the problem of poverty because the rate of poverty has moved up to a unprecedented level as the current poverty aliviation programs of sharing rice and cartoons of Noodles to citizens is not helping matters but a special ministry that will empower Nigerian With skills that better equip Nigerian to face the economic challenges of the country
Creating a ministry of poverty aliviation is good but one thing to note is that creating this ministry may involve extra expensive, and as we all know most ministries we have in the country today are not functional, they are just there looking for ways to corner to their pocket public funds, most ministries worker just come to work and sit in offices all day and at the end of it they receive they payment and even other extra allowance they might have stolen from the government. Actually this doesn't surprise me because most workers in the ministry were selected and appointed by those supposed corrupt leaders of our.