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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: kai on February 25, 2025, 05:41:18 AM
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I only give true stories from around me in the cryptocurrency space. This pure true story was told by himself when talking to me via Phone.
I have a friend, he even knew cryptocurrency since 2013 but got involved massively in 2017 when there were many ICOs. He also said that forums like altcoinstalks and bitcointalk have been inactive since 2019 (unfortunately, I was not told which username his account was, maybe to protect his privacy) and since then he has only worked on airdrops.
Then a few days ago he called me and said something like this:
-I see that in 2025 I have given up, I no longer want to be involved in cryptocurrency for many reasons, including the price of cryptocurrency not being like 2013 to 2021.
-He also said that from 2022 until now the cryptocurrency market is saturated and cannot be relied on to take advantage of trading.
-He also said "Just look now, Bitcoin seems reluctant to go up again and many altcoins have dropped in price so sharply".
I heard his words on the phone like with a cynical tone and disappointment towards cryptocurrency.
For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
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Well, to tell honestly then i would really be saying that it does have that less noise or activity if we do compare out on 2016-2020 i should say. I do remember into that golden days specially on ICO where you can see that much interest and there were tons of opportunities on which you can make money with it on which this is really that definitely that having that peak interest. Now, the market isnt really that something active in comparing into those early years on which this is really that totally different. This is why i do understands on what your friend is saying on which this is really that true but it doesnt mean that you would be just that simply stop on what you are doing currently. It all matters on how you do make money in the end of the day.
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He should just invest and hodl then.
No nerves, only happy time doing so.
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I only give true stories from around me in the cryptocurrency space. This pure true story was told by himself when talking to me via Phone.
I have a friend, he even knew cryptocurrency since 2013 but got involved massively in 2017 when there were many ICOs. He also said that forums like altcoinstalks and bitcointalk have been inactive since 2019 (unfortunately, I was not told which username his account was, maybe to protect his privacy) and since then he has only worked on airdrops.
Then a few days ago he called me and said something like this:
-I see that in 2025 I have given up, I no longer want to be involved in cryptocurrency for many reasons, including the price of cryptocurrency not being like 2013 to 2021.
-He also said that from 2022 until now the cryptocurrency market is saturated and cannot be relied on to take advantage of trading.
-He also said "Just look now, Bitcoin seems reluctant to go up again and many altcoins have dropped in price so sharply".
I heard his words on the phone like with a cynical tone and disappointment towards cryptocurrency.
For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
Honestly, yours friend statements sound like someone who has not taken time to learn certain things about cryptocurrency like, the bitcoin circle through out all the periods he has spent on the community, as a trader or an Investor.
As a matter of facts, we heard a strong bull run in 2021, everyone who where on the community, whether as a trader or Investor made huge profit, especially those that bought or invested before the bull run stated around October 2021.
In a nutshell, from 2021 to this moment, I don't think there is any disappointment on the market, except those that has invested on meme pumps and dumps scheme and got losses. This is my opinion.
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For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
Yes, it was valid when he used the word saturated. There is truth on it; the market is flooded with too many memes, too many shitcoins, and too many scams, but compared to what he is feeling and views about the industry, we are still doing good, the industry is very robust, all the kinds actors are here and if you want to come out safe and profitable, you have to upgrade your knowledge.
The old days are great but the industry is progressing.
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Price went from $1000 in 2017 to 100K in 2025, what better can we expect? He involved in which way?
Did he made any investment, if he is being in the market since 2013 then he had seen the golden days to own crypto that could made him a millionaire now but he didn't took that leap of faith and blaming the market doesn't change those facts.
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For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
Very, very much valid and your friend is not alone...in fact I would say that there are so many of us who are experiencing the same thing most especially today when another big round of RED WAVES is happening in the crypto market. Either there is really something wrong or maybe this is what the cryptocurrency market is now normally running. We are expecting so HIGH for the industry but it is slowly failing us...maybe we should be changing what to expect. This is not anymore the market that can create generational wealth...in fact I would say that LOSSES are now piling up. Still, I am maintaining my faith because I was not able to get out when things are getting so cold.
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I'll be very honest in my answer
I've known cryptos since 2017, I actively participate in the two main forums, I've mined crypto, I participate in airdrops, I'm a BTC hodler etc...
The price of BTC has reached 109k USD and it's not good?
Several altcoins have risen a lot from the bottom they had a few months ago...
Up until 2 or 3 months ago everyone was euphoric, and now the sentiment changes so quickly that everyone is tired, wanting to give up...
Just remember that those who had the courage to invest when the market fell, in all the previous years, were the ones who had the best returns
This has always been the case
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Your friend will be right about airdrops bounty, easy and free opportunities to earn hundreds of dollars. There is still the possibility of making good profits from Bitcoin but you have to start with serious investments as the chance of making +$100k from +$2k seems impossible.
Generally start with DCA and you will see your wallet grow over time.
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Every time the prices of cryptocurrencies stagnate, people are always going to feel like its not going up forever. No wonder the prices dips further more and then panics for the rest of the holders.
I can say things have changed since the 2018 bear market. Even in 2021 the market is not so alive but there are still altcoins that reaches its heights. This 2024 only BTC and a handful of altcoins are rising. Its like everyone is only interested in BTC.
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We should not be part of the influence that force some people to invest in cryptocurrency, because if anything should happen, they will blame us for being responsible, if he has decided not to invest again in crypto, then leave him on his own, by the time he continues to see other making profit and their life changing for good, he will learn a lesson and know what he is missing out, no one ever done the wrong thing and expect the perfect outcome of it, they are to be at fault for their ignorance and losses is the prize they are paying for it.
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Someone who has only get involved with airdrops doesn't know real analysis about the market and doesn't focused on given the real facts about the industry because he only thinks an airdrops only. Usually to me all he said doesn't give me any cogent reasons to believe on his words concerning the market. As I know, we can't predict the market and anyone who have seems to be given up of the market can actually utilize the dip and get hold on more Bitcoin and wait when the market makes its movement back.
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Then did he not feel the huge profit on December 17th and January 22nd?? What did he do when Bitcoin touched a new ATH, did he not sell it or did he wait until $1 million USD per BTC for his unrealistic prediction? We all want profit, but greed is not the path that must be taken..
Yesterday BTC was already experiencing a bullish period, but unfortunately your friend called you when the bearish period came, and as if he was a victim... yes I know, trading is not easy, but complaining is not a solution either... instead of deciding to leave, it's better to stop for a moment and try to evaluate all the decisions made previously
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Now, the market isnt really that something active in comparing into those early years on which this is really that totally different. This is why i do understands on what your friend is saying on which this is really that true but it doesnt mean that you would be just that simply stop on what you are doing currently. It all matters on how you do make money in the end of the day.
My friend must have been in the same generation as you when you first got to know cryptocurrency because your answer is exactly the same as his. You are also a Legendary member who understands the ins and outs of cryptocurrency very well.
Then did he not feel the huge profit on December 17th and January 22nd?? What did he do when Bitcoin touched a new ATH, did he not sell it or did he wait until $1 million USD per BTC for his unrealistic prediction? We all want profit, but greed is not the path that must be taken..
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I also got information from other community friends that some of his Bitcoins had been sold and he had bought real goods in 2021, including:
- 1 MPV Car
- 1 Cluster Housing
- 1 Ordinary house in the village
I'm sure he also has a lot of experience and assets that he doesn't mention to his friends (including the Bitcointalk and Altcoinstalks forum accounts) and in private. He just talked to me on the phone that the market is now flowing differently from 2021 back to 2013.
Maybe my assumption is that in 2013 - 2021 it was very easy to make money in cryptocurrency, including from Trading, Airdrop, Bounty, etc. but from 2021 until now it is not easy to make money from cryptocurrency and the market flow is different from the previous year.
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I understand your friends frustration with the crypto market especially after years of ups and down. It is true that prices aren't like they were before and the market feels saturated. But I see crypto as an evolving space–new opportunities like defi, staking and blockchain innovations still hold potential. Instead of chasing past trends, adapting to the changing landscape might be a better approach. The market moves in cycles and white it is uncertain, I believe there's always something to learn and explore
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Honestly, yours friend statements sound like someone who has not taken time to learn certain things about cryptocurrency like, the bitcoin circle through out all the periods he has spent on the community, as a trader or an Investor.
op’s friend might have been around that time where everything was cheap so every movement in the market was much more intensified whether it was going up or down however with bitcoin being really high now, there is only so much that bitcoin could still rise up to and that’s just part of bitcoin nothing much to do with the community itself
at some point we should have known that this would happen
In a nutshell, from 2021 to this moment, I don't think there is any disappointment on the market, except those that has invested on meme pumps and dumps scheme and got losses. This is my opinion.
there’s definitely more shitcoins and memecoins now but that is to be expected with how bigger the community has gotten but i am also hoping that in the future people become wiser and better critics of crypto projects
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I understand your friends frustration with the crypto market especially after years of ups and down. It is true that prices aren't like they were before and the market feels saturated. But I see crypto as an evolving space–new opportunities like defi, staking and blockchain innovations still hold potential. Instead of chasing past trends, adapting to the changing landscape might be a better approach. The market moves in cycles and white it is uncertain, I believe there's always something to learn and explore
This is we can say that there's nothing to last forever on which there would really be those interesting days or years or with those having that idle or not that much active market movement and same goes with the interest. This is why there would really be those those times or moments that you will be able to notice it out specially into those who have been on this market since 2015 on which you can be able to tell the differences in between the two when it come into this aspect. Well, there's nothing we can do but to deal with it and just dont mind about that much about on how much you will be able to make for these years whether its better or being that too low. What matters here is that you do still be able to make profits despite of the condition on which it isnt that similar into those older years.
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I understand your friends frustration with the crypto market especially after years of ups and down. It is true that prices aren't like they were before and the market feels saturated. But I see crypto as an evolving space–new opportunities like defi, staking and blockchain innovations still hold potential. Instead of chasing past trends, adapting to the changing landscape might be a better approach. The market moves in cycles and white it is uncertain, I believe there's always something to learn and explore
This is we can say that there's nothing to last forever on which there would really be those interesting days or years or with those having that idle or not that much active market movement and same goes with the interest. This is why there would really be those those times or moments that you will be able to notice it out specially into those who have been on this market since 2015 on which you can be able to tell the differences in between the two when it come into this aspect. Well, there's nothing we can do but to deal with it and just dont mind about that much about on how much you will be able to make for these years whether its better or being that too low. What matters here is that you do still be able to make profits despite of the condition on which it isnt that similar into those older years.
Markets change over time and ups and downs are normal. Instead of worrying about past profits, focus on steady growth and adapting to new conditions. What matters is staying consistent and making the most of current opportunities.
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I only give true stories from around me in the cryptocurrency space. This pure true story was told by himself when talking to me via Phone.
I have a friend, he even knew cryptocurrency since 2013 but got involved massively in 2017 when there were many ICOs. He also said that forums like altcoinstalks and bitcointalk have been inactive since 2019 (unfortunately, I was not told which username his account was, maybe to protect his privacy) and since then he has only worked on airdrops.
Then a few days ago he called me and said something like this:
-I see that in 2025 I have given up, I no longer want to be involved in cryptocurrency for many reasons, including the price of cryptocurrency not being like 2013 to 2021.
-He also said that from 2022 until now the cryptocurrency market is saturated and cannot be relied on to take advantage of trading.
-He also said "Just look now, Bitcoin seems reluctant to go up again and many altcoins have dropped in price so sharply".
I heard his words on the phone like with a cynical tone and disappointment towards cryptocurrency.
For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
Perhaps he was still living on the 2017 or early 2018 wherein there are a lot of money to be made here, like in airdrops? But after that it was a totally different market as there are a lot of scammers already.
I do agree that the market is saturated now, but it's like every bull run, there will be something new, as in the latest craze that you need to be early like the tap2earn from last year.
Although right now, it's already being used for pump and dump already. So maybe it's time to go look for the next hype.
Of course for Bitcoin, as we go along we will not see those huge profits as obviously, the price is getting higher, but if you invest early, you can still make good profits because it's compounding.
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I understand your friends frustration with the crypto market especially after years of ups and down. It is true that prices aren't like they were before and the market feels saturated. But I see crypto as an evolving space–new opportunities like defi, staking and blockchain innovations still hold potential. Instead of chasing past trends, adapting to the changing landscape might be a better approach. The market moves in cycles and white it is uncertain, I believe there's always something to learn and explore
This is we can say that there's nothing to last forever on which there would really be those interesting days or years or with those having that idle or not that much active market movement and same goes with the interest. This is why there would really be those those times or moments that you will be able to notice it out specially into those who have been on this market since 2015 on which you can be able to tell the differences in between the two when it come into this aspect. Well, there's nothing we can do but to deal with it and just dont mind about that much about on how much you will be able to make for these years whether its better or being that too low. What matters here is that you do still be able to make profits despite of the condition on which it isnt that similar into those older years.
We can't always get what we want, remember that the wheel of life turns, we won't always be on top and we won't always be at the bottom.
So the point here that I want to convey is to survive in the midst of whatever the conditions, and actually this is not only related to the crypto market, but this is something that will encompass the whole life.
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I understand your friends frustration with the crypto market especially after years of ups and down. It is true that prices aren't like they were before and the market feels saturated. But I see crypto as an evolving space–new opportunities like defi, staking and blockchain innovations still hold potential. Instead of chasing past trends, adapting to the changing landscape might be a better approach. The market moves in cycles and white it is uncertain, I believe there's always something to learn and explore
This is we can say that there's nothing to last forever on which there would really be those interesting days or years or with those having that idle or not that much active market movement and same goes with the interest. This is why there would really be those those times or moments that you will be able to notice it out specially into those who have been on this market since 2015 on which you can be able to tell the differences in between the two when it come into this aspect. Well, there's nothing we can do but to deal with it and just dont mind about that much about on how much you will be able to make for these years whether its better or being that too low. What matters here is that you do still be able to make profits despite of the condition on which it isnt that similar into those older years.
We can't always get what we want, remember that the wheel of life turns, we won't always be on top and we won't always be at the bottom.
So the point here that I want to convey is to survive in the midst of whatever the conditions, and actually this is not only related to the crypto market, but this is something that will encompass the whole life.
its what we do now. never give up our offline job because its the only lifeline we have when crypto falls apart. there is nothing to rely on in crypto then everything is crashing. not going to lose hope for crypto but maybe we just need to wait for the market to reset its bullish sentiments. and while waiting just spend what is necessary,
don't start a business today, you may also be struggling to make it work. even the barbershop where people have to maintain their good looks are now just not minding their hairs growing fast and thickening beside the ears. its a sign that people are not making extra.
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He should just invest and hodl then.
No nerves, only happy time doing so.
Well yeah true. OP's friend might not be a full time trader since he is quitting and is never taking every chance the market is bringing every single day and I can say that if his friend fully rely on airdrops then I don't think he might like the current situation of the market and so the airdrops. Maybe will just focus on some other opportunities like trading or long term hodling because a lot of investors enjoyed DCAing when market isn't doing great.
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We can't always get what we want, remember that the wheel of life turns, we won't always be on top and we won't always be at the bottom.
This is 100% correct.
The season can change at anytime. We won't be always in the red market, sometimes we will experience red market. It is like the current market condition, we are in the red market and the coin prices are declining a lot.
So the point here that I want to convey is to survive in the midst of whatever the conditions, and actually this is not only related to the crypto market, but this is something that will encompass the whole life.
Indeed, it applies to another aspect of life, it isn't only in crypto world.
We must know the way to survive and to deal with the situation. The bad condition will learn us many things, including the lesson to try patience to face any problem.
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OP, everyone has their approach towards cryptocurrency as it pleases them. Your friend's approach might not be the same as yours hence him giving up on it but you saw it quite differently from your friend so do not mind what he is saying. One thing I have learned over the years when it comes to business is not to depend on one source, you can have multiple sources of income and maybe invest in crypto with your spare funds and hold for a long term and see how it goes.
Why people complain about crypto is because they already conditioned their thoughts and minds that crypto is a get-rich-quick scheme which in the right sense is not true. Their orientation and perspective weren't properly enlightened so they just commit blunders in the industry and when they get trapped, they begin to cry scams and drag people into their drama or advise others wrongly about cryptocurrency.
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We can't always get what we want, remember that the wheel of life turns, we won't always be on top and we won't always be at the bottom.
This is 100% correct.
The season can change at anytime. We won't be always in the red market, sometimes we will experience red market. It is like the current market condition, we are in the red market and the coin prices are declining a lot.
So the point here that I want to convey is to survive in the midst of whatever the conditions, and actually this is not only related to the crypto market, but this is something that will encompass the whole life.
Indeed, it applies to another aspect of life, it isn't only in crypto world.
We must know the way to survive and to deal with the situation. The bad condition will learn us many things, including the lesson to try patience to face any problem.
Well, we have to be ready for whatever will happen. Some say that life is a risk that we have to bear, even when we do nothing we still have a risk.
For example, when we just keep quiet while other people work hard, then the risk we have to experience is just seeing other people succeed, and if we talk, it is actually a risk that is certain to happen.
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For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
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I do agree that the market is saturated now, but it's like every bull run, there will be something new, as in the latest craze that you need to be early like the tap2earn from last year.
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Oh yes, that's right, I still remember when I first got to know cryptocurrency when Tap2Earn was born from the HAMSTER project. Although the results were annoying because it took months to work, the rewards were only for buying Pop Corn and the size of the Pop Corn box was also small.
I also don't blame the HAMSTER project because that's where I started to get to know cryptocurrency. And now I notice that the story of my friend has indeed been much different about cryptocurrency since 2013 until now.
The point is that we have to adapt a lot in this cryptocurrency environment so that we can continue to be present and active.
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Your post reply seems to have something wrong with the code.
Your quote code is broken, please fix and edit it so that it is nice and comfortable to see for all altcoinstalks members.
I have also PM you for a fast response to edit it. Thank you.
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We can't always get what we want, remember that the wheel of life turns, we won't always be on top and we won't always be at the bottom.
This is 100% correct.
The season can change at anytime. We won't be always in the red market, sometimes we will experience red market. It is like the current market condition, we are in the red market and the coin prices are declining a lot.
So the point here that I want to convey is to survive in the midst of whatever the conditions, and actually this is not only related to the crypto market, but this is something that will encompass the whole life.
Indeed, it applies to another aspect of life, it isn't only in crypto world.
We must know the way to survive and to deal with the situation. The bad condition will learn us many things, including the lesson to try patience to face any problem.
Well, we have to be ready for whatever will happen. Some say that life is a risk that we have to bear, even when we do nothing we still have a risk.
For example, when we just keep quiet while other people work hard, then the risk we have to experience is just seeing other people succeed, and if we talk, it is actually a risk that is certain to happen.
Risk will always be there in our lives, because in life we have to take the smallest risk so that we can survive.
there are many kinds of risks in life. Especially in crypto investment, we will always face risks.
That is the function of risk management so that we can take the smallest risk by taking advantage of every investment we make in crypto.
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Risk will always be there in our lives, because in life we have to take the smallest risk so that we can survive.
there are many kinds of risks in life. Especially in crypto investment, we will always face risks.
That is the function of risk management so that we can take the smallest risk by taking advantage of every investment we make in crypto.
You are correct, friend. We will always have the risks in any aspect of life. To be successful, we must deal with the risks. It includes in crypto investment, we must deal with the risks to succeed in crypto. The huge decline is one of the risks in crypto, we must deal with the current big dump. We don't lose hope but we must be patient. I think we still have a chance for the more pump. So, just keep our hope for holding.
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Well, we have to be ready for whatever will happen. Some say that life is a risk that we have to bear, even when we do nothing we still have a risk.
For example, when we just keep quiet while other people work hard, then the risk we have to experience is just seeing other people succeed, and if we talk, it is actually a risk that is certain to happen.
Risk will always be there in our lives, because in life we have to take the smallest risk so that we can survive.
there are many kinds of risks in life. Especially in crypto investment, we will always face risks.
That is the function of risk management so that we can take the smallest risk by taking advantage of every investment we make in crypto.
Without realizing that most successful people are those who dare to take risks but they already have thorough preparation, in other words they already have knowledge and they know what they will do when they succeed or when they fail.
Yes, risk management is an important element that must be considered, because we can minimize everything with the management we have.
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Then a few days ago he called me and said something like this:
-I see that in 2025 I have given up, I no longer want to be involved in cryptocurrency for many reasons, including the price of cryptocurrency not being like 2013 to 2021.
-He also said that from 2022 until now the cryptocurrency market is saturated and cannot be relied on to take advantage of trading.
-He also said "Just look now, Bitcoin seems reluctant to go up again and many altcoins have dropped in price so sharply".
I heard his words on the phone like with a cynical tone and disappointment towards cryptocurrency.
For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
I understand the feeling from your friend, and if I'm in his shoes, I might feel the same disappointment as well.
You know what's the good thing with me? I learned from the price movement of Bitcoin for the past decade. I learned how to be emotionless and I learned how not feel like what most of the investors are feeling.
I feel the disappointment, and he isn't the only one that has that kind of feeling. Your friend's feeling is valid and understandable however, we don't have the same feelings right now. I see the recent drop as an opportunity to buy even more. If there's something that I'm disappointed in myself with, that's not selling when the market is at $100,000. When I watched videos hinting that it might go down in the next couple of weeks, I chose to hold all of my Bitcoin. That's my only regret as of this moment, but I believe that the bull run season isn't over yet.
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Without realizing that most successful people are those who dare to take risks but they already have thorough preparation, in other words they already have knowledge and they know what they will do when they succeed or when they fail.
Yes, risk management is an important element that must be considered, because we can minimize everything with the management we have.
That's what we've seen so far, those who are successful are those who dare to take risks, of course with the right analysis.
lkbecause in every crypto investment we will face existing risks, and as I said we need good risk management in managing our capital in investing.
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We have already seen that the price of Bitcoin is now around 84k +. And we know that between 2017 and 2022, the price of Bitcoin was 16k to 17k or 20k. At that time, the price of all coins was not that much higher. But between 2024 and 2025, the price of BNB and other coins increased a lot. But in the last two-three days, the price of Bitcoin has slightly dumped, so the price of all coins has dumped by 15% - 20%. We have seen that the price of all coins has decreased slightly due to the decrease in the price of Bitcoin, I think that if Bitcoin dumps some more, all the coins will not be found. That is why it seems that Bitcoin will pump again and will be worth 150k +.
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Without realizing that most successful people are those who dare to take risks but they already have thorough preparation, in other words they already have knowledge and they know what they will do when they succeed or when they fail.
Yes, risk management is an important element that must be considered, because we can minimize everything with the management we have.
That's what we've seen so far, those who are successful are those who dare to take risks, of course with the right analysis.
lkbecause in every crypto investment we will face existing risks, and as I said we need good risk management in managing our capital in investing.
It is the inspiration to act big no matter the circumstances that remains a factor that differentiates the movers from the shakers. Of course risks are inevitable in crypto world but that is whyhiphop don’t trust in the luck only we calculate. Having a clear idea on where the capital is being used, having the feel of the market and having a clear quantifiable plan somewhere in the background makes each action a controlled one. When it comes to the business decisions, it often does not always turn out profitability, however at least we can manage what leads to it. It is possible to say that the fact of persistent in various situations in the market makes us only more trained and ready to go further.
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We have already seen that the price of Bitcoin is now around 84k +. And we know that between 2017 and 2022, the price of Bitcoin was 16k to 17k or 20k. At that time, the price of all coins was not that much higher. But between 2024 and 2025, the price of BNB and other coins increased a lot. But in the last two-three days, the price of Bitcoin has slightly dumped, so the price of all coins has dumped by 15% - 20%. We have seen that the price of all coins has decreased slightly due to the decrease in the price of Bitcoin, I think that if Bitcoin dumps some more, all the coins will not be found. That is why it seems that Bitcoin will pump again and will be worth 150k +.
We can hardly predict the whales' plans and the market's reaction. I only know that anything can happen tomorrow, meaning the BTC price could completely drop to 50K and altcoins would fall by 75% within the next week, although I don't hope to experience this event.
Boredom and fear are taking over the crypto market. The KOLs who once predicted the BTC price would hit 200K or 500K have become less confident. I still believe in BTC's ATH in Q4 this year, but the BTC price may only be around 150K instead of meeting investors' unreasonable expectations.
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Without realizing that most successful people are those who dare to take risks but they already have thorough preparation, in other words they already have knowledge and they know what they will do when they succeed or when they fail.
Yes, risk management is an important element that must be considered, because we can minimize everything with the management we have.
That's what we've seen so far, those who are successful are those who dare to take risks, of course with the right analysis.
lkbecause in every crypto investment we will face existing risks, and as I said we need good risk management in managing our capital in investing.
It is the inspiration to act big no matter the circumstances that remains a factor that differentiates the movers from the shakers. Of course risks are inevitable in crypto world but that is whyhiphop don’t trust in the luck only we calculate. Having a clear idea on where the capital is being used, having the feel of the market and having a clear quantifiable plan somewhere in the background makes each action a controlled one. When it comes to the business decisions, it often does not always turn out profitability, however at least we can manage what leads to it. It is possible to say that the fact of persistent in various situations in the market makes us only more trained and ready to go further.
That means based on experience, and experience can indeed make us better with what we go through, be it something negative or something positive.
With this, we can learn not only from theory, but we can feel it directly. And for me personally, sometimes I am quicker to understand when I experience it directly than learning from theory.
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We have already seen that the price of Bitcoin is now around 84k +. And we know that between 2017 and 2022, the price of Bitcoin was 16k to 17k or 20k. At that time, the price of all coins was not that much higher. But between 2024 and 2025, the price of BNB and other coins increased a lot. But in the last two-three days, the price of Bitcoin has slightly dumped, so the price of all coins has dumped by 15% - 20%. We have seen that the price of all coins has decreased slightly due to the decrease in the price of Bitcoin, I think that if Bitcoin dumps some more, all the coins will not be found. That is why it seems that Bitcoin will pump again and will be worth 150k +.
We can hardly predict the whales' plans and the market's reaction. I only know that anything can happen tomorrow, meaning the BTC price could completely drop to 50K and altcoins would fall by 75% within the next week, although I don't hope to experience this event.
Boredom and fear are taking over the crypto market. The KOLs who once predicted the BTC price would hit 200K or 500K have become less confident. I still believe in BTC's ATH in Q4 this year, but the BTC price may only be around 150K instead of meeting investors' unreasonable expectations.
Yes, we can expect this. However, we are constantly seeing that as BTC is decreasing, the prices of almost all coins are also decreasing. If this continues, no token in the crypto currency market will have much value, and investors will lose control over the market. Now we are hoping that the market will push to a large amount, and that is around 150k +, so we will wait for that.
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I may agree with your friend on only one thing, as for free airdrops, they were previously, especially with the ICO wave in 2017, much better than the airdrops at the present time.
It is true that there were many fraudulent ICO projects at that time that caused a very bad reputation for crypto, but at the same time there were many important airdrops in which participants got a good number of free coins that increased in value a lot over time.
Today we no longer hear about any important airdrop in which participants made a good amount of money, and we also no longer hear about any important project, most of which are worthless memes.
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With this, we can learn not only from theory, but we can feel it directly. And for me personally, sometimes I am quicker to understand when I experience it directly than learning from theory.
It is not always advisable to be an individual who always wants to learn from their own personal experience because some experiences are so dangerous and deadly that you may not survive the experience. If you value learning from experience, adopt trying to learn from another person's experience, that way some expensive mistakes can be avoided.
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With this, we can learn not only from theory, but we can feel it directly. And for me personally, sometimes I am quicker to understand when I experience it directly than learning from theory.
It is not always advisable to be an individual who always wants to learn from their own personal experience because some experiences are so dangerous and deadly that you may not survive the experience. If you value learning from experience, adopt trying to learn from another person's experience, that way some expensive mistakes can be avoided.
In learning we can learn from our own experiences and also from others. so we can take wisdom from everything.
And in trading or investing we must seek knowledge and experience so that what we target can be achieved.
Especially in short-term trading that requires analysis, strategy and accurate predictions, this really requires experience.
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Without realizing that most successful people are those who dare to take risks but they already have thorough preparation, in other words they already have knowledge and they know what they will do when they succeed or when they fail.
Yes, risk management is an important element that must be considered, because we can minimize everything with the management we have.
That's what we've seen so far, those who are successful are those who dare to take risks, of course with the right analysis.
lkbecause in every crypto investment we will face existing risks, and as I said we need good risk management in managing our capital in investing.
Of course, every investment is associated with risk. So taking risks is a very natural thing. Those who do not dare to take risks will not be able to achieve anything good from crypto. Cryptocurrencies will sometimes be bullish and sometimes bearish, so we have to be prepared to take risks.
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I only give true stories from around me in the cryptocurrency space. This pure true story was told by himself when talking to me via Phone.
I have a friend, he even knew cryptocurrency since 2013 but got involved massively in 2017 when there were many ICOs. He also said that forums like altcoinstalks and bitcointalk have been inactive since 2019 (unfortunately, I was not told which username his account was, maybe to protect his privacy) and since then he has only worked on airdrops.
Then a few days ago he called me and said something like this:
-I see that in 2025 I have given up, I no longer want to be involved in cryptocurrency for many reasons, including the price of cryptocurrency not being like 2013 to 2021.
-He also said that from 2022 until now the cryptocurrency market is saturated and cannot be relied on to take advantage of trading.
-He also said "Just look now, Bitcoin seems reluctant to go up again and many altcoins have dropped in price so sharply".
I heard his words on the phone like with a cynical tone and disappointment towards cryptocurrency.
For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
I Guess your friend is missing the days when the crypto space was still clean and free from shitcoins, pump-and-dump projects, and rampant scams.
In my opinion, Bitcoin is still thriving compared to altcoins. From the beginning, Bitcoin has been known for its volatility. Drawing conclusions based on its current price seems baseless to me. Just a few months ago, everyone was happy with the price increase, and I'm sure your friend was too. These are the factors that make crypto investment risky. Your friend has made his decisions, and that is better than being emotional over price fluctuations and the current state of the crypto space.
For newbies joining the crypto space, their greatest strength would be proper research, which will give them the right knowledge to navigate it.
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Actually, such feelings are quite normal, especially considering how Bitcoin's current development is indeed very speculative, its high fluctuations have caused many panic sells and also confidence in the crypto market has begun to decline. However, is giving up the right thing to do? Although it will depend on each individual in their faith, I still strongly believe that there is hope for the crypto market to develop again very well, this will not be easy, but it will definitely go much better in the future. Keep calm and continue holding assets that we consider to be valuable assets.
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With this, we can learn not only from theory, but we can feel it directly. And for me personally, sometimes I am quicker to understand when I experience it directly than learning from theory.
It is not always advisable to be an individual who always wants to learn from their own personal experience because some experiences are so dangerous and deadly that you may not survive the experience. If you value learning from experience, adopt trying to learn from another person's experience, that way some expensive mistakes can be avoided.
In learning we can learn from our own experiences and also from others. so we can take wisdom from everything.
And in trading or investing we must seek knowledge and experience so that what we target can be achieved.
Especially in short-term trading that requires analysis, strategy and accurate predictions, this really requires experience.
Yes, education from own experience or from other people always remains an indispensable component of any process, including trading and investing. The more knowledge one acquires, the more it is easier to make the correct decisions. Not only regarding being familiar with the movement of the market but also on how strategies can be implemented in order to minimise the risks and maximise the possible gains. In particular, in the short-term trading, the importance of a correct analysis is the key to the final results and thus experience makes it’s worth something. Perseverance in waiting for some movement of the prices, ability to learn more about the situations in the market, as well as the opportunities to develop analytical thinking will eventually enable the achievement of the goals set.
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With this, we can learn not only from theory, but we can feel it directly. And for me personally, sometimes I am quicker to understand when I experience it directly than learning from theory.
It is not always advisable to be an individual who always wants to learn from their own personal experience because some experiences are so dangerous and deadly that you may not survive the experience. If you value learning from experience, adopt trying to learn from another person's experience, that way some expensive mistakes can be avoided.
I think it's something different, and if in the end it kills even I think it can't be called an experience, but more than that.
What I mean here is an experience that can make us better in the future. Regarding other people's experiences, I also agree that we can learn from other people's experiences, we can get it from the stories they share.
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What I mean here is an experience that can make us better in the future. Regarding other people's experiences, I also agree that we can learn from other people's experiences, we can get it from the stories they share.
even if we just hear about other people’s experiences yes we can learn some from it but it is still different if we experience it ourselves
we really can’t know what it’s like to be in someone’s shoes until it happens to us and we feel what it’s like to experience through that this is why we shouldn’t take mistakes or bad things as a life ending experience but rather think of it just an enhancement of our knowledge
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With this, we can learn not only from theory, but we can feel it directly. And for me personally, sometimes I am quicker to understand when I experience it directly than learning from theory.
It is not always advisable to be an individual who always wants to learn from their own personal experience because some experiences are so dangerous and deadly that you may not survive the experience. If you value learning from experience, adopt trying to learn from another person's experience, that way some expensive mistakes can be avoided.
I think it's something different, and if in the end it kills even I think it can't be called an experience, but more than that.
What I mean here is an experience that can make us better in the future. Regarding other people's experiences, I also agree that we can learn from other people's experiences, we can get it from the stories they share.
If we follow other people's advice then I would say yes we can definitely learn something from it. But we will lose our own experience. You use your knowledge well, work hard and you will see that you have done something good from your knowledge. You can learn a lot from the advice given by others but you will not be interested in it. So I would say use your knowledge, work hard and improve yourself.
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With this, we can learn not only from theory, but we can feel it directly. And for me personally, sometimes I am quicker to understand when I experience it directly than learning from theory.
It is not always advisable to be an individual who always wants to learn from their own personal experience because some experiences are so dangerous and deadly that you may not survive the experience. If you value learning from experience, adopt trying to learn from another person's experience, that way some expensive mistakes can be avoided.
I think it's something different, and if in the end it kills even I think it can't be called an experience, but more than that.
What I mean here is an experience that can make us better in the future. Regarding other people's experiences, I also agree that we can learn from other people's experiences, we can get it from the stories they share.
If we follow other people's advice then I would say yes we can definitely learn something from it. But we will lose our own experience. You use your knowledge well, work hard and you will see that you have done something good from your knowledge. You can learn a lot from the advice given by others but you will not be interested in it. So I would say use your knowledge, work hard and improve yourself.
We can accept other people's opinions, but we must have our own analysis so that what we do is in accordance with our analysis.
If a mistake occurs and we experience a loss, we can find out where our mistake is and can fix it.
So it is better to always learn and seek knowledge so that we can get a lot of experience and expertise.
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With this, we can learn not only from theory, but we can feel it directly. And for me personally, sometimes I am quicker to understand when I experience it directly than learning from theory.
It is not always advisable to be an individual who always wants to learn from their own personal experience because some experiences are so dangerous and deadly that you may not survive the experience. If you value learning from experience, adopt trying to learn from another person's experience, that way some expensive mistakes can be avoided.
I think it's something different, and if in the end it kills even I think it can't be called an experience, but more than that.
What I mean here is an experience that can make us better in the future. Regarding other people's experiences, I also agree that we can learn from other people's experiences, we can get it from the stories they share.
If we follow other people's advice then I would say yes we can definitely learn something from it. But we will lose our own experience. You use your knowledge well, work hard and you will see that you have done something good from your knowledge. You can learn a lot from the advice given by others but you will not be interested in it. So I would say use your knowledge, work hard and improve yourself.
We can accept other people's opinions, but we must have our own analysis so that what we do is in accordance with our analysis.
If a mistake occurs and we experience a loss, we can find out where our mistake is and can fix it.
So it is better to always learn and seek knowledge so that we can get a lot of experience and expertise.
You have to learn something from others and also use your own skills, then maybe you will feel successful. If we wait to learn something from others' posts without using our own knowledge, then we will never be successful, the point is that we have to use both and move forward. Yes, it can be said that the informative posts that our older brothers make are very important.
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- I think that in 2017 up to 2021 there were more negative people when the issue was bitcoin or cryptocurrency. And when it comes to 2022 onwards up to the present now there have been a lot fewer people who are negative about bitcoin.
Although the exploitative scammers who use bitcoin or cryptocurrency are still around today, So overall, it's up to us whether we will still believe in cryptocurrency at the moment because of me obviously I still remain here due to its proven and tested to me.
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- I think that in 2017 up to 2021 there were more negative people when the issue was bitcoin or cryptocurrency. And when it comes to 2022 onwards up to the present now there have been a lot fewer people who are negative about bitcoin.
Although the exploitative scammers who use bitcoin or cryptocurrency are still around today, So overall, it's up to us whether we will still believe in cryptocurrency at the moment because of me obviously I still remain here due to its proven and tested to me.
People who have been in cryptocurrency for a long time will not easily believe the negative issues that hit Bitcoin, they will still believe in their own position. And it will be different for people who are new to crypto, they will be more easily provoked by bad news about Bitcoin. I personally have not known Bitcoin for long, but I am not easily swayed by people or anyone who says negative issues about Bitcoin. I believe that Bitcoin has a bright future, and of course it will have a positive impact on my life in particular, and society as a whole in general.
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People who have been in cryptocurrency for a long time will not easily believe the negative issues that hit Bitcoin, they will still believe in their own position. And it will be different for people who are new to crypto, they will be more easily provoked by bad news about Bitcoin. I personally have not known Bitcoin for long, but I am not easily swayed by people or anyone who says negative issues about Bitcoin. I believe that Bitcoin has a bright future, and of course it will have a positive impact on my life in particular, and society as a whole in general.
Well, some already did, but some retain and still doing crypto stuff. Anyone who did say that bitcoin doesn't have any future, will die, anything negative are all buried people heard that stuff way back 2015, or even bitcoin reach @$1000. There are lot of them telling the same, yet it reaches the very far now. Then now this struggles is pretty normal, as long as you don't sell, you're good.
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Without realizing that most successful people are those who dare to take risks but they already have thorough preparation, in other words they already have knowledge and they know what they will do when they succeed or when they fail.
Yes, risk management is an important element that must be considered, because we can minimize everything with the management we have.
That's what we've seen so far, those who are successful are those who dare to take risks, of course with the right analysis.
lkbecause in every crypto investment we will face existing risks, and as I said we need good risk management in managing our capital in investing.
Of course, every investment is associated with risk. So taking risks is a very natural thing. Those who do not dare to take risks will not be able to achieve anything good from crypto. Cryptocurrencies will sometimes be bullish and sometimes bearish, so we have to be prepared to take risks.
Yes, business generally is a pool of risk, crypto is not different, there are always volatility on the crypto market which are highly risky than most traditional investments economy.
However, investors and traders who take risks are likely to make higher profit over time, than the sentiments traders who are slow and unable to take tangible market decisions once opportunity to take positions are open. Risk is part of the crypto business and whichever price level a trader enter the market is a risk, and on crypto economy, anything can happen.
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It is true that in 2017 there were many opportunities that the only tool was a very successful ico and these days were gold that we were very interested in investing through. But if we are able to have a lot of ideas about crypto then there are many opportunities on which we can make money with it and will interest us in the journey of profit. Investors and traders who take risks can earn higher profits over time so we need to take risks on coins that can really take crypto to greater heights. In today context if we want to get rich from meme coin then it would be a fool errand.
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With this, we can learn not only from theory, but we can feel it directly. And for me personally, sometimes I am quicker to understand when I experience it directly than learning from theory.
It is not always advisable to be an individual who always wants to learn from their own personal experience because some experiences are so dangerous and deadly that you may not survive the experience. If you value learning from experience, adopt trying to learn from another person's experience, that way some expensive mistakes can be avoided.
I think it's something different, and if in the end it kills even I think it can't be called an experience, but more than that.
What I mean here is an experience that can make us better in the future. Regarding other people's experiences, I also agree that we can learn from other people's experiences, we can get it from the stories they share.
If we follow other people's advice then I would say yes we can definitely learn something from it. But we will lose our own experience. You use your knowledge well, work hard and you will see that you have done something good from your knowledge. You can learn a lot from the advice given by others but you will not be interested in it. So I would say use your knowledge, work hard and improve yourself.
We can accept other people's opinions, but we must have our own analysis so that what we do is in accordance with our analysis.
If a mistake occurs and we experience a loss, we can find out where our mistake is and can fix it.
So it is better to always learn and seek knowledge so that we can get a lot of experience and expertise.
Yes, there is no harm in following the opinions of others, but if you cannot observe whether those opinions of others are logical or not, it is not possible to determine whether there is a mistake. That is why it is definitely necessary to gain knowledge and experience. Knowledge and experience make a person stronger. There is definitely a value in one's own skills and experience.
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I only give true stories from around me in the cryptocurrency space. This pure true story was told by himself when talking to me via Phone.
I have a friend, he even knew cryptocurrency since 2013 but got involved massively in 2017 when there were many ICOs. He also said that forums like altcoinstalks and bitcointalk have been inactive since 2019 (unfortunately, I was not told which username his account was, maybe to protect his privacy) and since then he has only worked on airdrops.
Then a few days ago he called me and said something like this:
-I see that in 2025 I have given up, I no longer want to be involved in cryptocurrency for many reasons, including the price of cryptocurrency not being like 2013 to 2021.
-He also said that from 2022 until now the cryptocurrency market is saturated and cannot be relied on to take advantage of trading.
-He also said "Just look now, Bitcoin seems reluctant to go up again and many altcoins have dropped in price so sharply".
I heard his words on the phone like with a cynical tone and disappointment towards cryptocurrency.
For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
Read through all the amazing perspectives, and I believe crypto is moving in the right direction. Mass adoption doesn’t happen overnight it takes time.
Plus, you mentioned your friend is mostly into airdrops. That’s still profitable, but it’s gotten harder since more people jumped into the game over the past year. Your friend might just be facing a rough patch.
That said, we’ve been seeing a lot of adoption lately, with influential figures like Trump pushing for it. 2025 could turn out to be a pleasant surprise for the crypto community!
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With this, we can learn not only from theory, but we can feel it directly. And for me personally, sometimes I am quicker to understand when I experience it directly than learning from theory.
It is not always advisable to be an individual who always wants to learn from their own personal experience because some experiences are so dangerous and deadly that you may not survive the experience. If you value learning from experience, adopt trying to learn from another person's experience, that way some expensive mistakes can be avoided.
I think it's something different, and if in the end it kills even I think it can't be called an experience, but more than that.
What I mean here is an experience that can make us better in the future. Regarding other people's experiences, I also agree that we can learn from other people's experiences, we can get it from the stories they share.
If we follow other people's advice then I would say yes we can definitely learn something from it. But we will lose our own experience. You use your knowledge well, work hard and you will see that you have done something good from your knowledge. You can learn a lot from the advice given by others but you will not be interested in it. So I would say use your knowledge, work hard and improve yourself.
We can accept other people's opinions, but we must have our own analysis so that what we do is in accordance with our analysis.
If a mistake occurs and we experience a loss, we can find out where our mistake is and can fix it.
So it is better to always learn and seek knowledge so that we can get a lot of experience and expertise.
Yes, there is no harm in following the opinions of others, but if you cannot observe whether those opinions of others are logical or not, it is not possible to determine whether there is a mistake. That is why it is definitely necessary to gain knowledge and experience. Knowledge and experience make a person stronger. There is definitely a value in one's own skills and experience.
It would really be that up to you on how you would really be assessing those other peoples advises on which neither you will really be that following it out or you would really be that sticking into your plans or you would really be having that combination. We do know that at the time that you do make out some investment decisions then its best that you do really know that it will really be that having that kind of confusion specially if the market is really that showing off different random movements or events then you can be able to make out such comparison. Losing hope in crypto this 2025? Well, its somewhat true if we do tend to compare it out into those previous years on which this isnt that lively and action packed in compared into those previous cycles. ;D This is why i couldnt blame into those people who are been here on this market for long years will really be able to notice it out on such comparison in between conditions and situations.
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With this, we can learn not only from theory, but we can feel it directly. And for me personally, sometimes I am quicker to understand when I experience it directly than learning from theory.
It is not always advisable to be an individual who always wants to learn from their own personal experience because some experiences are so dangerous and deadly that you may not survive the experience. If you value learning from experience, adopt trying to learn from another person's experience, that way some expensive mistakes can be avoided.
I think it's something different, and if in the end it kills even I think it can't be called an experience, but more than that.
What I mean here is an experience that can make us better in the future. Regarding other people's experiences, I also agree that we can learn from other people's experiences, we can get it from the stories they share.
If we follow other people's advice then I would say yes we can definitely learn something from it. But we will lose our own experience. You use your knowledge well, work hard and you will see that you have done something good from your knowledge. You can learn a lot from the advice given by others but you will not be interested in it. So I would say use your knowledge, work hard and improve yourself.
We can accept other people's opinions, but we must have our own analysis so that what we do is in accordance with our analysis.
If a mistake occurs and we experience a loss, we can find out where our mistake is and can fix it.
So it is better to always learn and seek knowledge so that we can get a lot of experience and expertise.
Yes, there is no harm in following the opinions of others, but if you cannot observe whether those opinions of others are logical or not, it is not possible to determine whether there is a mistake. That is why it is definitely necessary to gain knowledge and experience. Knowledge and experience make a person stronger. There is definitely a value in one's own skills and experience.
Yes, you will first observe what you learn from other people's posts and see if it is still wrong or right. And everything will be based on your knowledge. Observe other people's posts and observe your knowledge, you will see that your own learning has taken you much further than the teaching given by others. So I would say that you should use your own knowledge and you will see that you will get something good.
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I think it's something different, and if in the end it kills even I think it can't be called an experience, but more than that.
What I mean here is an experience that can make us better in the future. Regarding other people's experiences, I also agree that we can learn from other people's experiences, we can get it from the stories they share.
If we follow other people's advice then I would say yes we can definitely learn something from it. But we will lose our own experience. You use your knowledge well, work hard and you will see that you have done something good from your knowledge. You can learn a lot from the advice given by others but you will not be interested in it. So I would say use your knowledge, work hard and improve yourself.
Why should we lose our own experiences when we listen to what others experience? Listening or learning from other people's experiences does not mean that we cannot learn from our own experiences, but we can make new plans to be more mature.
And it does not mean that learning from other people's experiences we have to follow them raw, we also have to be able to sort out what we can and cannot do.
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I think it's something different, and if in the end it kills even I think it can't be called an experience, but more than that.
What I mean here is an experience that can make us better in the future. Regarding other people's experiences, I also agree that we can learn from other people's experiences, we can get it from the stories they share.
If we follow other people's advice then I would say yes we can definitely learn something from it. But we will lose our own experience. You use your knowledge well, work hard and you will see that you have done something good from your knowledge. You can learn a lot from the advice given by others but you will not be interested in it. So I would say use your knowledge, work hard and improve yourself.
Why should we lose our own experiences when we listen to what others experience? Listening or learning from other people's experiences does not mean that we cannot learn from our own experiences, but we can make new plans to be more mature.
And it does not mean that learning from other people's experiences we have to follow them raw, we also have to be able to sort out what we can and cannot do.
Listening is the way of gaining knowledge from other people’s storeys and knowing something from a different perspective without experiencing it ourselves. This doesn’t mean that we are not allowed to have subjective experiences of the world, in fact such experience is still in existence. Storeys are the knowledge that can expand the number of tips on how to work on the situations we face in life. We should not use everything that other people get through as a standard because we can take what is necessary from it and apply it to ourselves. People always have their own approach in doing something and the most desirable thing is to make ourselves humble while not losing sight of the path that we have set for ourselves.
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I think it's something different, and if in the end it kills even I think it can't be called an experience, but more than that.
What I mean here is an experience that can make us better in the future. Regarding other people's experiences, I also agree that we can learn from other people's experiences, we can get it from the stories they share.
If we follow other people's advice then I would say yes we can definitely learn something from it. But we will lose our own experience. You use your knowledge well, work hard and you will see that you have done something good from your knowledge. You can learn a lot from the advice given by others but you will not be interested in it. So I would say use your knowledge, work hard and improve yourself.
Why should we lose our own experiences when we listen to what others experience? Listening or learning from other people's experiences does not mean that we cannot learn from our own experiences, but we can make new plans to be more mature.
And it does not mean that learning from other people's experiences we have to follow them raw, we also have to be able to sort out what we can and cannot do.
Learning from other people's experience does not mean forgetting your own experience. Because for me all experiences will make us more expert and have a lot of knowledge about Crypto. Both your own experience or the experiences of others.
We really have to always learn, by looking for experience and listening to Ceriota or other people's experiences.
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Well, to tell honestly then i would really be saying that it does have that less noise or activity if we do compare out on 2016-2020 i should say. I do remember into that golden days specially on ICO where you can see that much interest and there were tons of opportunities on which you can make money with it on which this is
really that definitely that having that peak interest. Now, the market isnt really that something active in comparing into those early years on which this is really that totally different. This is why i do understands on what your friend is saying on which this is really that true but it doesnt mean that you would be just that simply stop on what you are doing currently. It all matters on how you do make money in the end of the day.
Yes, we are now on the the golden days of total investments on Bitcoin and some altcoins out there, at least, the era of ICOs is gone, this is the time of bitcoins investing for both the new and old investors with experiences. The actual golden days of cryptocurrency investment is here, unlike the ICO days, thing has changed for the best, many investors has became wiser, and there is less pump and dump scheme on utility tokens investments. Basically, there are great futures of utility tokens out there, I think there is hope in cryptocurrency investing, more investments opportunity is open for everyone, and there is no limit on Bitcoin investments, but it is advisable to invest based on your finances ability and experiences of the market.
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What works for me might not work for you. Another thing that I understand is that your friend lacks the knowledge of cryptocurrency, if not he would know that trading is a way to big losses and frustration. Holding altcoins is thr worst mistake anyone will do, because majority of them has no future. Investing in bitcoin in a long-term is the best. Assuming your friend was investing in bitcoin from 2022, when we had a dip to 16k+. Even with bitcoin price at $82k+, he will be in profit. It's not how long you have been into something, but the knowledge you have acquired in that period of time. Imagine your friend sayin in 2019 bitcointalk.org was not functioning. Is tht true.
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Yes, we are now on the the golden days of total investments on Bitcoin and some altcoins out there, at least, the era of ICOs is gone, this is the time of bitcoins investing for both the new and old investors with experiences. The actual golden days of cryptocurrency investment is here, unlike the ICO days, thing has changed for the best, many investors has became wiser, and there is less pump and dump scheme on utility tokens investments. Basically, there are great futures of utility tokens out there, I think there is hope in cryptocurrency investing, more investments opportunity is open for everyone, and there is no limit on Bitcoin investments, but it is advisable to invest based on your finances ability and experiences of the market.
ICO era has gone, it makes sense that people are no longer very interested in new projects. Yes, people prefer to invest in Bitcoin now because Bitcoin future looks better. We know that Bitcoin keep increasing its price consistently. Meanwhile many altcoins have a problem in increasing their values. However, it is no problem if there are people who want to invest in new altcoins. But we must be careful because many of them don't last a long time.
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by looking at the current market conditions, saturation is starting to be felt, especially since the price of altcoins has not increased, even if there is, it is only for a short time, unlike BTC when it reached 100k$ yesterday, 2025 is different from 2021, and the hope of being able to take advantage is very far away, but what can we do? This is crypto, it requires patience and strong strength
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Why should we lose our own experiences when we listen to what others experience? Listening or learning from other people's experiences does not mean that we cannot learn from our own experiences, but we can make new plans to be more mature.
And it does not mean that learning from other people's experiences we have to follow them raw, we also have to be able to sort out what we can and cannot do.
Learning from other people's experience does not mean forgetting your own experience. Because for me all experiences will make us more expert and have a lot of knowledge about Crypto. Both your own experience or the experiences of others.
We really have to always learn, by looking for experience and listening to Ceriota or other people's experiences.
Well, that's how it should be, instead of ignoring one of them. What we have to do is absorb all the lessons that can be taken from other people and from ourselves.
Even so, it might make us learn faster and we will also consider more about a decision that will be taken, so that we don't become people who are hasty in making decisions.
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Well, that's how it should be, instead of ignoring one of them. What we have to do is absorb all the lessons that can be taken from other people and from ourselves.
Even so, it might make us learn faster and we will also consider more about a decision that will be taken, so that we don't become people who are hasty in making decisions.
In making decisions we must have the right analysis and strategy.
we can listen to other people's experiences, and learn from there but in my opinion our own experience is more important because in this case we are the perpetrators and it is easier to identify it.
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Why should we lose our own experiences when we listen to what others experience? Listening or learning from other people's experiences does not mean that we cannot learn from our own experiences, but we can make new plans to be more mature.
And it does not mean that learning from other people's experiences we have to follow them raw, we also have to be able to sort out what we can and cannot do.
Learning from other people's experience does not mean forgetting your own experience. Because for me all experiences will make us more expert and have a lot of knowledge about Crypto. Both your own experience or the experiences of others.
We really have to always learn, by looking for experience and listening to Ceriota or other people's experiences.
Well, that's how it should be, instead of ignoring one of them. What we have to do is absorb all the lessons that can be taken from other people and from ourselves.
Even so, it might make us learn faster and we will also consider more about a decision that will be taken, so that we don't become people who are hasty in making decisions.
It is true that experiences as well as observing other people can be beneficial in one’s learning process. Because in general every experience is equal to something that can be received, be it from positive experiences as well as from the failures that have happened. The more information we store within us the greater the chances of knowing the variety of events which might take place in the future. This can make us less anxious and avoid hasty in choosing the next actions and steps. It can be stated that any decision which is taken after considering and planning then it has better odds of yielding the result that was planned. All of this is a lifelong process which is being carried out consistently throughout life span.
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Well, that's how it should be, instead of ignoring one of them. What we have to do is absorb all the lessons that can be taken from other people and from ourselves.
Even so, it might make us learn faster and we will also consider more about a decision that will be taken, so that we don't become people who are hasty in making decisions.
In making decisions we must have the right analysis and strategy.
we can listen to other people's experiences, and learn from there but in my opinion our own experience is more important because in this case we are the perpetrators and it is easier to identify it.
Of course, nothing beats the old and reliable experience that we will have, but in the beginning maybe we could learn from someone and then try to incorporate it in our learning experience, so it's a win win for us.
And then we make it our own, we tweaks some to fit our goal.
So for me, everyone should start from nothing but then tries to improved it whatever they can and just be positive that everything will work on our favor in the end.
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Well, that's how it should be, instead of ignoring one of them. What we have to do is absorb all the lessons that can be taken from other people and from ourselves.
Even so, it might make us learn faster and we will also consider more about a decision that will be taken, so that we don't become people who are hasty in making decisions.
In making decisions we must have the right analysis and strategy.
we can listen to other people's experiences, and learn from there but in my opinion our own experience is more important because in this case we are the perpetrators and it is easier to identify it.
I previously did not talk about the priority scale for learning from what others experience that we experience ourselves. However, in my personal opinion it would be better to make both in the same place.
Indeed, in this case we will definitely learn faster from our own experiences, because we ourselves feel it. However, before we feel it ourselves, who knows it has been told by others with the same thing.
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What works for me might not work for you. Another thing that I understand is that your friend lacks the knowledge of cryptocurrency, if not he would know that trading is a way to big losses and frustration. Holding altcoins is thr worst mistake anyone will do, because majority of them has no future. Investing in bitcoin in a long-term is the best. Assuming your friend was investing in bitcoin from 2022, when we had a dip to 16k+. Even with bitcoin price at $82k+, he will be in profit. It's not how long you have been into something, but the knowledge you have acquired in that period of time. Imagine your friend sayin in 2019 bitcointalk.org was not functioning. Is tht true.
His friend surely don't know anything about bitcoin because there are people who are into crypto for a very long period and they still don't understand the basics, they are seeing their fellows making huge profits and in chase of big profits they are targeting them too while they should be making profit small or big it should not be the main priority.
Just like you said if his friend would have been investing in BTC even by DCA he would have been a millionaire. till now he won't have to invest in alts even. He made his choice and did something wrong which I did not get from his words.
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What works for me might not work for you. Another thing that I understand is that your friend lacks the knowledge of cryptocurrency, if not he would know that trading is a way to big losses and frustration. Holding altcoins is thr worst mistake anyone will do, because majority of them has no future. Investing in bitcoin in a long-term is the best. Assuming your friend was investing in bitcoin from 2022, when we had a dip to 16k+. Even with bitcoin price at $82k+, he will be in profit. It's not how long you have been into something, but the knowledge you have acquired in that period of time. Imagine your friend sayin in 2019 bitcointalk.org was not functioning. Is tht true.
I’m currently viewing his friend as one of those who got into bitcoin or cryptocurrency because they heard that they can get rich with it and now they are left disappointed after discovering that it’s more than just buying random altcoins and holding and then expects to be the next Elon musk with it.
I don’t know how much his friend has invested that made him have that kind of mindset but I do think that he didn’t know many things before he got into it- if he knew he’d have prepared his mind also himself to help minimize the risk/losses.
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What works for me might not work for you. Another thing that I understand is that your friend lacks the knowledge of cryptocurrency, if not he would know that trading is a way to big losses and frustration. Holding altcoins is thr worst mistake anyone will do, because majority of them has no future. Investing in bitcoin in a long-term is the best. Assuming your friend was investing in bitcoin from 2022, when we had a dip to 16k+. Even with bitcoin price at $82k+, he will be in profit. It's not how long you have been into something, but the knowledge you have acquired in that period of time. Imagine your friend sayin in 2019 bitcointalk.org was not functioning. Is tht true.
I’m currently viewing his friend as one of those who got into bitcoin or cryptocurrency because they heard that they can get rich with it and now they are left disappointed after discovering that it’s more than just buying random altcoins and holding and then expects to be the next Elon musk with it.
I don’t know how much his friend has invested that made him have that kind of mindset but I do think that he didn’t know many things before he got into it- if he knew he’d have prepared his mind also himself to help minimize the risk/losses.
Actually, many people enter into crypto with the intentions of making big profits because some of them heard that cryptocurrency can make people become very rich.There are many newbies investors that are investing without knowledge and experience of the crypto market. It is s pity because after making the wrong investments decision, they go to social networks to complain their frustration.
As a matter of facts, crypto is not a get rich quick ecosystem, there are basic things to know, and I will always encourage newbies to acquire some knowledge before investing.
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Actually, many people enter into crypto with the intentions of making big profits because some of them heard that cryptocurrency can make people become very rich.There are many newbies investors that are investing without knowledge and experience of the crypto market. It is s pity because after making the wrong investments decision, they go to social networks to complain their frustration.
As a matter of facts, crypto is not a get rich quick ecosystem, there are basic things to know, and I will always encourage newbies to acquire some knowledge before investing.
I read a tweet on X recently from a celebrity in my country who went on social media and started complaining about cryptocurrency - calling it a scam because of the recent dip in prices of some coins, so he took to the internet and started saying that people should stay clear from it that there are people who usually control the prices of coins and that they are the once’s making the most from bitcoin.
This type of people just tell you that they didn’t do their due diligence before hopping into the ecosystem - they probably read one or two testimonies from a random article which was probably shilling a shit coin and then decide to go scoop their own millions from bitcoin as others have claimed to have been scooping only for them to meet a different reality.
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I have a friend, he even knew cryptocurrency since 2013 but got involved massively in 2017 when there were many ICOs. He also said that forums like altcoinstalks and bitcointalk have been inactive since 2019 (unfortunately, I was not told which username his account was, maybe to protect his privacy) and since then he has only worked on airdrops.
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For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
I don't believe a user that old said both forums are inactive. I can't say anything about this forum but I have seen how active BTT was in 2019 as the past posts tells the truth, and he find those ICOs not profitable and trading too, so he went into airdrops in a era when airdrops were giving a lot of money to the participants.
And still he says he want to leave crypto, he was in a golden era, where we all wish we would be so we could make lot of profit and your friend is saying he don't like crypto now and even said BTC can't go up again, how can that be true. Even a newbie when spending a cycle in market knows how much potential BTC have.
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Since I have been in this crypto currency since 2019, I have seen that the price of this BTC was around 17k to 20k. At that time, the price of all coins was not that high, almost the price of coins was normal. But since 2024, the price of BTC has been increasing gradually and we have seen it in 2025, so it has pumped 100k. But in the last few weeks, we have seen that the price of BTC has decreased slightly, and the price of all coins has decreased by about 15% to 20%. If the price of BTC continues to decrease like this, then maybe where the price of all coins will go is beyond our imagination. If we try to catch it, the coins will have no value. So we hope that the market will be better in the future.
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I believe he needs to see it differently. He should consider many things, including the fact that BTC is still very expensive. It's so high right now, and there are still many opportunities to earn in it. I hope this changes his mind because the cryptocurrency space still has things to offer.
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I believe he needs to see it differently. He should consider many things, including the fact that BTC is still very expensive. It's so high right now, and there are still many opportunities to earn in it. I hope this changes his mind because the cryptocurrency space still has things to offer.
Yes, BTC is still expensive. And there are many opportunities to earn from it. But if we look at all the coins, their prices are decreasing day by day. If this continues, crypto currencies will not be found for a while. However, the way BTC's price has increased, users have increased and investors are also earning something good from it.
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Yes, BTC is still expensive. And there are many opportunities to earn from it. But if we look at all the coins, their prices are decreasing day by day. If this continues, crypto currencies will not be found for a while. However, the way BTC's price has increased, users have increased and investors are also earning something good from it.
Well, I also heard the same thing when BTC price reached $100, $1K and $10K in previous cycles. The truth is that BTC price continued to rise and conquered $100K in this cycle, meaning we often cannot accurately assess BTC potential at the present.
BTC has been accepted in the US, I believe that means crypto has arrived and is not going away soon. This boredom is probably part of the whales market manipulation plan, I believe in the cycle so I will continue to hold until BTC signals a trend reversal. 2025 will still be a successful year for crypto, wait for ATHs!
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I believe he needs to see it differently. He should consider many things, including the fact that BTC is still very expensive. It's so high right now, and there are still many opportunities to earn in it. I hope this changes his mind because the cryptocurrency space still has things to offer.
Yes, I would say that it has just begun. More people have learned about Bitcoin than ever before and this knowledge continues. From the personal level to the institutional level and now it has become the reserve currency of a country. Its demand will increase even more in the future. That is why those who have given up or lost hope should prepare themselves quickly, otherwise they may be disappointed again in the future. Because the level at which Bitcoin is today, there is no chance of it remaining at that level in the future.
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Yes, I would say that it has just begun. More people have learned about Bitcoin than ever before and this knowledge continues. From the personal level to the institutional level and now it has become the reserve currency of a country. Its demand will increase even more in the future. That is why those who have given up or lost hope should prepare themselves quickly, otherwise they may be disappointed again in the future. Because the level at which Bitcoin is today, there is no chance of it remaining at that level in the future.
What you refer to? Please explain again what you mean that just begun. People already know well Bitcoin, I think it is not a new thing anymore. Yes, Bitcoin has been a funding reserve for US. It is also a legal tender in El Salvador. It is not in the beginning step anymore if you refer to the Bitcoin adoption. It has been a further adoption, Bitcoin has been adopted widely in many sectors. The level of Bitcoin has been in a further level.
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I believe he needs to see it differently. He should consider many things, including the fact that BTC is still very expensive. It's so high right now, and there are still many opportunities to earn in it. I hope this changes his mind because the cryptocurrency space still has things to offer.
When someone who has experience in crypto for more than 10 years, I am sure he has a lot of experience and must have a lot of Bitcoin. I think he just needs a short break to enjoy his life from the Bitcoin he has, for example a vacation to Dubai, Thailand, Maldives or other exotic countries.
He complained that it must be different from the way he got Bitcoin from 10 years ago and now, if it was considered very easy to get Bitcoin a day 2 BTC, maybe now 0.0002 BTC is also difficult in a week.
OP, it's time to enjoy life with the Bitcoin he has and enjoy the current reality in the crypto world like this.
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Then did he not feel the huge profit on December 17th and January 22nd?? What did he do when Bitcoin touched a new ATH, did he not sell it or did he wait until $1 million USD per BTC for his unrealistic prediction? We all want profit, but greed is not the path that must be taken..
Yesterday BTC was already experiencing a bullish period, but unfortunately your friend called you when the bearish period came, and as if he was a victim... yes I know, trading is not easy, but complaining is not a solution either... instead of deciding to leave, it's better to stop for a moment and try to evaluate all the decisions made previously
when bitcoin reached ATh, I already sold some of the BTC I had. so I already got profit from bitcoin's AATH.
if it is said to be greedy because I still hold some I think it is not true, because my target is based on the analysis I did before. and taking the opportunity when bitcoin reached ATH was the right decision.
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Then did he not feel the huge profit on December 17th and January 22nd?? What did he do when Bitcoin touched a new ATH, did he not sell it or did he wait until $1 million USD per BTC for his unrealistic prediction? We all want profit, but greed is not the path that must be taken..
Yesterday BTC was already experiencing a bullish period, but unfortunately your friend called you when the bearish period came, and as if he was a victim... yes I know, trading is not easy, but complaining is not a solution either... instead of deciding to leave, it's better to stop for a moment and try to evaluate all the decisions made previously
when bitcoin reached ATh, I already sold some of the BTC I had. so I already got profit from bitcoin's AATH.
if it is said to be greedy because I still hold some I think it is not true, because my target is based on the analysis I did before. and taking the opportunity when bitcoin reached ATH was the right decision.
We do have our own ways on how to secure profits and on how we do manage our holding on which whether you would really be that selling out when ATH been reached up or you would really be that deciding whether you would really be able to hold up then it will really be that in accordance into your preference. This is why its really that recommended that you should really be that wise when it comes into your decisions as long we are making up profits then this will really be the primary reason on why we are here on this market in the first place. Losing hope for 2025? You cant be able to tell but its true that there's really that difference if we do compare it out into the previous cycles on which hype and interest is really that much more better in compared into what we do have now. So it will really be that up to you on how you would be dealing up into these price movements.
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We do have our own ways on how to secure profits and on how we do manage our holding on which whether you would really be that selling out when ATH been reached up or you would really be that deciding whether you would really be able to hold up then it will really be that in accordance into your preference. This is why its really that recommended that you should really be that wise when it comes into your decisions as long we are making up profits then this will really be the primary reason on why we are here on this market in the first place. Losing hope for 2025? You cant be able to tell but its true that there's really that difference if we do compare it out into the previous cycles on which hype and interest is really that much more better in compared into what we do have now. So it will really be that up to you on how you would be dealing up into these price movements.
We must be wise in making decisions when bitcoin reaches ATH, keep holding or sell some.
I prefer to sell some as I explained earlier and hold it to get bigger profits, If bitcoin experiences a correction I will buy again. So I divide my crypto assets for the short term and long term.
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I only give true stories from around me in the cryptocurrency space. This pure true story was told by himself when talking to me via Phone.
I have a friend, he even knew cryptocurrency since 2013 but got involved massively in 2017 when there were many ICOs. He also said that forums like altcoinstalks and bitcointalk have been inactive since 2019 (unfortunately, I was not told which username his account was, maybe to protect his privacy) and since then he has only worked on airdrops.
Then a few days ago he called me and said something like this:
-I see that in 2025 I have given up, I no longer want to be involved in cryptocurrency for many reasons, including the price of cryptocurrency not being like 2013 to 2021.
-He also said that from 2022 until now the cryptocurrency market is saturated and cannot be relied on to take advantage of trading.
-He also said "Just look now, Bitcoin seems reluctant to go up again and many altcoins have dropped in price so sharply".
I heard his words on the phone like with a cynical tone and disappointment towards cryptocurrency.
For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
- We can't blame your friend, he may not have extended his patience because he hasn't experienced making good money in cryptocurrency.
But if he has experienced profit in the crypto space, I am pretty sure he wouldn't say that.
And besides, if he had a deep knowledge of bitcoin or cryptocurrency, it is also certain that he would probably still be in the crypto space that we are living in.
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I believe fully, all cryptocurrency trader, holder and investor got much disappointed for cryptocurrency in 2025 after having very excited moment at the end years 2024 when bitcoin success raising new ATH price.
Since first month of this year, Bitcoin unpredictable for raising to higher price until three months of 2025 bitcoin get crash significant and dump under $80k.
No doubt for bitcoin and many top altcoin have possibility will raise up back to higher price, just waiting right time for bitcoin hitting back above $100k and right now very good moment to buy back then hold it around several weeks later for bitcoin break out new higher price.
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I believe fully, all cryptocurrency trader, holder and investor got much disappointed for cryptocurrency in 2025 after having very excited moment at the end years 2024 when bitcoin success raising new ATH price.
Since first month of this year, Bitcoin unpredictable for raising to higher price until three months of 2025 bitcoin get crash significant and dump under $80k.
No doubt for bitcoin and many top altcoin have possibility will raise up back to higher price, just waiting right time for bitcoin hitting back above $100k and right now very good moment to buy back then hold it around several weeks later for bitcoin break out new higher price.
We all wanted stable market environment which in turn gives profitable rates especially having seen much volatility as depicted here in the past from price surges. It has not yet reached the expected level but there are expectations that the market has the potentials of improving again. It is natural that there will be periods of both increase and decrease of price; it is a cyclical situation that has been witnessed time and time again in history. It nice to continue believing that there is some untapped potential there and hold on as opposed to the characteristic choice. The first strategy therefore is not to panic and to look at all the opportunities that are available, also not take hasty actions. All of this is part of journey in the world that deals with investment.
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For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
Yes, I've been fully active in the market from 2021 era and I can say that your friend is somewhat right and his statement is somehow valid.
However, I must say that the traders have been earning money from the market including myself and that's also a truth.
I know the volatility of the market is not that much but still one can earn some good amount by trading good coins, and to be honest there's still volatility in the market.
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We must be wise in making decisions when bitcoin reaches ATH, keep holding or sell some.
I prefer to sell some as I explained earlier and hold it to get bigger profits, If bitcoin experiences a correction I will buy again. So I divide my crypto assets for the short term and long term.
It is true, we shouldn't set a too high target for all our Bitcoin. It is better to divide the target for selling, some Bitcoin we can sell at the lower of our highest target. Selling at $100k, it was the right choice because it was the first time Bitcoin crossing $100k. Now, we can see that Bitcoin dropped again below $100k. We don't know that Bitcoin can cross again $100k or not, we must be more careful to set our selling target.
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I believe he needs to see it differently. He should consider many things, including the fact that BTC is still very expensive. It's so high right now, and there are still many opportunities to earn in it. I hope this changes his mind because the cryptocurrency space still has things to offer.
Yes, I would say that it has just begun. More people have learned about Bitcoin than ever before and this knowledge continues. From the personal level to the institutional level and now it has become the reserve currency of a country. Its demand will increase even more in the future. That is why those who have given up or lost hope should prepare themselves quickly, otherwise they may be disappointed again in the future. Because the level at which Bitcoin is today, there is no chance of it remaining at that level in the future.
can't be said 100% will be disappointed, where there are some who leave crypto for one reason, so not everyone will be disappointed with the soaring price of btc, for those who still hold on they are people who really believe in crypto to invest and they are ready for all the risks that will arise, even though btc becomes a reserve does not make btc stay above but the decline continues and the 4-year cycle will still exist,
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I believe he needs to see it differently. He should consider many things, including the fact that BTC is still very expensive. It's so high right now, and there are still many opportunities to earn in it. I hope this changes his mind because the cryptocurrency space still has things to offer.
Yes, I would say that it has just begun. More people have learned about Bitcoin than ever before and this knowledge continues. From the personal level to the institutional level and now it has become the reserve currency of a country. Its demand will increase even more in the future. That is why those who have given up or lost hope should prepare themselves quickly, otherwise they may be disappointed again in the future. Because the level at which Bitcoin is today, there is no chance of it remaining at that level in the future.
can't be said 100% will be disappointed, where there are some who leave crypto for one reason, so not everyone will be disappointed with the soaring price of btc, for those who still hold on they are people who really believe in crypto to invest and they are ready for all the risks that will arise, even though btc becomes a reserve does not make btc stay above but the decline continues and the 4-year cycle will still exist,
Those who join crypto currency investment to earn money, they invest without increasing their knowledge to earn money very quickly and later they lose a lot. And after a while they move away from investment. If someone comes to crypto currency thinking this and wants to move forward with investment, then you will never be able to because until you have a good idea about the market, you will lose money with it and you will never be able to earn. And in this market, no one can say with 100% certainty where the market can go. We have seen BTC before, BTC was around 17k to 20k between 2018 and 2022. But we have pumped BTC 100k between 2024 and 2025. And those who were patient with investment here have earned a good amount from here. So I say we have to be patient, if we don't get disappointed, then we can move forward in life.
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I believe he needs to see it differently. He should consider many things, including the fact that BTC is still very expensive. It's so high right now, and there are still many opportunities to earn in it. I hope this changes his mind because the cryptocurrency space still has things to offer.
Yes, I would say that it has just begun. More people have learned about Bitcoin than ever before and this knowledge continues. From the personal level to the institutional level and now it has become the reserve currency of a country. Its demand will increase even more in the future. That is why those who have given up or lost hope should prepare themselves quickly, otherwise they may be disappointed again in the future. Because the level at which Bitcoin is today, there is no chance of it remaining at that level in the future.
can't be said 100% will be disappointed, where there are some who leave crypto for one reason, so not everyone will be disappointed with the soaring price of btc, for those who still hold on they are people who really believe in crypto to invest and they are ready for all the risks that will arise, even though btc becomes a reserve does not make btc stay above but the decline continues and the 4-year cycle will still exist,
Those who join crypto currency investment to earn money, they invest without increasing their knowledge to earn money very quickly and later they lose a lot. And after a while they move away from investment. If someone comes to crypto currency thinking this and wants to move forward with investment, then you will never be able to because until you have a good idea about the market, you will lose money with it and you will never be able to earn. And in this market, no one can say with 100% certainty where the market can go. We have seen BTC before, BTC was around 17k to 20k between 2018 and 2022. But we have pumped BTC 100k between 2024 and 2025. And those who were patient with investment here have earned a good amount from here. So I say we have to be patient, if we don't get disappointed, then we can move forward in life.
Sooner or later on which they would really be able to realize on how this market works or behaves on which everyone of us had become that a newbie once before on which we have been able to experience up this situation. If you've been able to have that kind of optimism on this market then you will definitely be having that kind of disappointment into those moments or times that you've seen this market on such dumping on where it resulted that negative into your portfolio on which this is really that indeed giving out that vibe or emotion. On the moment that you had been able to have that kind of gaining up experience with this market then you will be able to find yourself that be able to go with the flow. We do know on how this market works or behaves on which then you will be able to make adjustments accordingly.
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I believe he needs to see it differently. He should consider many things, including the fact that BTC is still very expensive. It's so high right now, and there are still many opportunities to earn in it. I hope this changes his mind because the cryptocurrency space still has things to offer.
Yes, I would say that it has just begun. More people have learned about Bitcoin than ever before and this knowledge continues. From the personal level to the institutional level and now it has become the reserve currency of a country. Its demand will increase even more in the future. That is why those who have given up or lost hope should prepare themselves quickly, otherwise they may be disappointed again in the future. Because the level at which Bitcoin is today, there is no chance of it remaining at that level in the future.
can't be said 100% will be disappointed, where there are some who leave crypto for one reason, so not everyone will be disappointed with the soaring price of btc, for those who still hold on they are people who really believe in crypto to invest and they are ready for all the risks that will arise, even though btc becomes a reserve does not make btc stay above but the decline continues and the 4-year cycle will still exist,
Those who join crypto currency investment to earn money, they invest without increasing their knowledge to earn money very quickly and later they lose a lot. And after a while they move away from investment. If someone comes to crypto currency thinking this and wants to move forward with investment, then you will never be able to because until you have a good idea about the market, you will lose money with it and you will never be able to earn. And in this market, no one can say with 100% certainty where the market can go. We have seen BTC before, BTC was around 17k to 20k between 2018 and 2022. But we have pumped BTC 100k between 2024 and 2025. And those who were patient with investment here have earned a good amount from here. So I say we have to be patient, if we don't get disappointed, then we can move forward in life.
And that's how most of us here learn that, it's a hard lessons in the beginning to lose money. But I guess everyone will have to go on that kind of learning curve.
So that you will become a tougher investor and will not just invest your hard earn money on something without doing your own investigation. With that, it's ok to fail, but go back and learn from that mistakes and never again fall for the trick of looking at crypto as something of a get quick rich scheme.
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However, I must say that the traders have been earning money from the market including myself and that's also a truth.
I know the volatility of the market is not that much but still one can earn some good amount by trading good coins, and to be honest there's still volatility in the market.
This is the good thing about learning how to trade in the crypto market. You can still make money even the market is going down. I also have some positions so I'm still affected when the market dumps, but because I'm trading, I'm somewhat making money still (although it isn't a huge amount). :D
As for volatility, there will and will always be volatility in the crypto market. I believe that Bitcoin will be less volatile though in the upcoming years or decades to come because of an increase in market cap that makes it harder to go up or down.
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Someone who has only get involved with airdrops doesn't know real analysis about the market and doesn't focused on given the real facts about the industry because he only thinks an airdrops only. Usually to me all he said doesn't give me any cogent reasons to believe on his words concerning the market. As I know, we can't predict the market and anyone who have seems to be given up of the market can actually utilize the dip and get hold on more Bitcoin and wait when the market makes its movement back.
You are very correct, Airdrops hunters has no business with market analysis, in facts, there is no way an airdrops hunters will have a good idea about market analysis, because airdrops hunters are just maint to do certain tasks for companies to receive some rewards.
In addition, actually crypto market predictions has proven very difficult for everyone involved, even the experts has not find it easy, some failures and successes. It is advisable to buy during the dip or corrections modes.
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Someone who has only get involved with airdrops doesn't know real analysis about the market and doesn't focused on given the real facts about the industry because he only thinks an airdrops only. Usually to me all he said doesn't give me any cogent reasons to believe on his words concerning the market. As I know, we can't predict the market and anyone who have seems to be given up of the market can actually utilize the dip and get hold on more Bitcoin and wait when the market makes its movement back.
You are very correct, Airdrops hunters has no business with market analysis, in facts, there is no way an airdrops hunters will have a good idea about market analysis, because airdrops hunters are just maint to do certain tasks for companies to receive some rewards.
In addition, actually crypto market predictions has proven very difficult for everyone involved, even the experts has not find it easy, some failures and successes. It is advisable to buy during the dip or corrections modes.
Yes you are right, all people does is to speculate about the market but that doesn't give a good representation of what would happen next or in the future, just that they are only being optimistic about the market how they feels it should be on their own views. When people began to predict the market and it gives exact results according to how they predicted it then no body would want to venture the market and they would all remain waiting when it would dip before they would buy.
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Yes you are right, all people does is to speculate about the market but that doesn't give a good representation of what would happen next or in the future, just that they are only being optimistic about the market how they feels it should be on their own views. When people began to predict the market and it gives exact results according to how they predicted it then no body would want to venture the market and they would all remain waiting when it would dip before they would buy.
The best time to buy is when the crypto market is down, because it is safer.
We do speculate about the crypto market, because that's how investing in crypto is. We have to be reliable speculators who can make a profit.
We have to make our own analysis and predictions, if our predictions are right we can get the profit we are targeting.
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He should just invest and hodl then.
No nerves, only happy time doing so.
I think it’s important to be aware that with hodling,you can still welcome losses despite. You stake a 100 dollar funds from your pocket and invest into bitcoin early december and decide to hodl till march, don’t you think your investment would be swept off your feet by now?
I think it’s important to be cautious while making your investments in the crypto space. I personally think that the concept of hodling is meant for high stakers i.e high investors.
In relating to the topic at hand now, i think that he might have had a point from his own pov. An investor that have stayed in the crypto space from 2017 should be aware of alot. He wouldn’t be so dumb to analyse his investments in the wrong way for that amount of years till this date.
I’m not insinuating that cryptocurrencies do not have a bright future, i only think that everyone sees it from their own different pov or perspective. No matter how good of an investor you are, losses would still be analysed one way or the other.
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The best time to buy is when the crypto market is down, because it is safer.
We do speculate about the crypto market, because that's how investing in crypto is. We have to be reliable speculators who can make a profit.
We have to make our own analysis and predictions, if our predictions are right we can get the profit we are targeting.
Right, the best time for investing and most safer when cryptocurrency market going down seems right now is most right moment if want buy back and invest at bitcoin or any top altcoin. Its most safer when investing in cryptocurrency during have lower price for our opportunity earn much profitable very large later if invest at lower price, but take risk by investing when crypto market moment have been raise higher price have high risk and must be long term holder when price decreasing significant.
Have you reinvesting for bitcoin or any top altcoin right now after market price decreasing drastically? or still waiting another dip price for investing.
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The best time to buy is when the crypto market is down, because it is safer.
We do speculate about the crypto market, because that's how investing in crypto is. We have to be reliable speculators who can make a profit. We have to make our own analysis and predictions, if our predictions are right we can get the profit we are targeting.
Whenever there is a big dump, it can be a good time to buy. However, we must analyze the market trend, we don't buy if the market looks to drop more for a long time. During this bullish season, it is better to buy for a short term target. We don't hold for a long time because we will have the bearish season after this season. In the bearish season, the prices of all crypto coins will be much lower from the current prices.
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Whenever there is a big dump, it can be a good time to buy. However, we must analyze the market trend, we don't buy if the market looks to drop more for a long time.
well it depends if you are so willing to hold for a long time until the next bull run then i think it’s fine to buy no matter how long the bear run may be which is usually just 4 years anyway considering previous cycles
During this bullish season, it is better to buy for a short term target. We don't hold for a long time because we will have the bearish season after this season. In the bearish season, the prices of all crypto coins will be much lower from the current prices.
that’s your strategy i think that longer for long will be much profitable than buying now then selling at a price not any more higher than the price you bought it for
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He should just invest and hodl then.
No nerves, only happy time doing so.
HODLing (bitcoin) only leads you to a happy ending.
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For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
Yes, it was valid when he used the word saturated. There is truth on it; the market is flooded with too many memes, too many shitcoins, and too many scams, but compared to what he is feeling and views about the industry, we are still doing good, the industry is very robust, all the kinds actors are here and if you want to come out safe and profitable, you have to upgrade your knowledge.
The old days are great but the industry is progressing.
Yes, the old days are wonderful, many good records and bad moments too. I remember that the earlier ICOs days, though many start up projects where successful but were later ravaged by scammers activities.
I think that generally the crypto economy has made tremendous progress over this years, and the future looks very bright. Hopefully, there is increasing adoptions and awareness so far, a lot of improvement has been made and we are still making progress.
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Someone who has only get involved with airdrops doesn't know real analysis about the market and doesn't focused on given the real facts about the industry because he only thinks an airdrops only. Usually to me all he said doesn't give me any cogent reasons to believe on his words concerning the market. As I know, we can't predict the market and anyone who have seems to be given up of the market can actually utilize the dip and get hold on more Bitcoin and wait when the market makes its movement back.
You are very correct, Airdrops hunters has no business with market analysis, in facts, there is no way an airdrops hunters will have a good idea about market analysis, because airdrops hunters are just maint to do certain tasks for companies to receive some rewards.
In addition, actually crypto market predictions has proven very difficult for everyone involved, even the experts has not find it easy, some failures and successes. It is advisable to buy during the dip or corrections modes.
Since the past, airdrop hunters have never thought about the impact of their careless actions, and since the past, airdrop participants have been a group of destructive groups, ithink it is not 100% like that, but most airdrop hunters only think about money and don't think about the projects they support before distributing prizes.
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Someone who has only get involved with airdrops doesn't know real analysis about the market and doesn't focused on given the real facts about the industry because he only thinks an airdrops only. Usually to me all he said doesn't give me any cogent reasons to believe on his words concerning the market. As I know, we can't predict the market and anyone who have seems to be given up of the market can actually utilize the dip and get hold on more Bitcoin and wait when the market makes its movement back.
You are very correct, Airdrops hunters has no business with market analysis, in facts, there is no way an airdrops hunters will have a good idea about market analysis, because airdrops hunters are just maint to do certain tasks for companies to receive some rewards.
In addition, actually crypto market predictions has proven very difficult for everyone involved, even the experts has not find it easy, some failures and successes. It is advisable to buy during the dip or corrections modes.
Since the past, airdrop hunters have never thought about the impact of their careless actions, and since the past, airdrop participants have been a group of destructive groups, ithink it is not 100% like that, but most airdrop hunters only think about money and don't think about the projects they support before distributing prizes.
Of course they aren't in the right frame of mind especially when they think about the airdrops and the money involved, they would think it would gain millions of dollars from participating in a particular task but at last they would still end up gaining peanuts from those projects.
Airdrops hunters needs to mellow down their desires to what a particular project would give them.
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Of course they aren't in the right frame of mind especially when they think about the airdrops and the money involved, they would think it would gain millions of dollars from participating in a particular task but at last they would still end up gaining peanuts from those projects.
Airdrops hunters needs to mellow down their desires to what a particular project would give them.
airdrop hunters are currently having a hard time getting big rewards because airdrop participants are increasing and we also know that the rewards allocation is also decreasing.
many are leaving airdrops and focusing on trading because they feel that airdrops are no longer worth it.
but it all depends on each person's decision in participating and dividing their time
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Of course they aren't in the right frame of mind especially when they think about the airdrops and the money involved, they would think it would gain millions of dollars from participating in a particular task but at last they would still end up gaining peanuts from those projects.
Airdrops hunters needs to mellow down their desires to what a particular project would give them.
airdrop hunters are currently having a hard time getting big rewards because airdrop participants are increasing and we also know that the rewards allocation is also decreasing.
many are leaving airdrops and focusing on trading because they feel that airdrops are no longer worth it.
but it all depends on each person's decision in participating and dividing their time
Of course there is need for airdrops participants to change their minds towards their participation on airdrops campaign, most times there are less rewards due high influx of people so most of them wouldn't have any other alternatives than to look into elsewhere to gain rewards by joining trading while some of them discovered this forum and started raising good account to join campaign to start earning from sig.
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Of course there is need for airdrops participants to change their minds towards their participation on airdrops campaign, most times there are less rewards due high influx of people so most of them wouldn't have any other alternatives than to look into elsewhere to gain rewards by joining trading while some of them discovered this forum and started raising good account to join campaign to start earning from sig.
also see the airdrop participants are increasing so that the allocation we receive is getting smaller. I think the airdrop is worthless right now that's why I'm more active in the signature campaign, where the income is consistent and paid BTC every[p week.
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Of course they aren't in the right frame of mind especially when they think about the airdrops and the money involved, they would think it would gain millions of dollars from participating in a particular task but at last they would still end up gaining peanuts from those projects.
Airdrops hunters needs to mellow down their desires to what a particular project would give them.
airdrop hunters are currently having a hard time getting big rewards because airdrop participants are increasing and we also know that the rewards allocation is also decreasing.
many are leaving airdrops and focusing on trading because they feel that airdrops are no longer worth it.
but it all depends on each person's decision in participating and dividing their time
I'll give some examples of airdrops last year that became successful.
VeniceAI, Berachain and the most successful airdrop which is Hyperliquid.
Majority of the airdrops give a small portion of their total token supply yes, but there are still some airdrops out there that are considered "worth it". Let's just think about this. If the airdrop criteria/requirements is too easy for us participants, it will be flooded with lots of participants especially those that doesn't require money to participate. On the flip side, those airdrops that requires us to put some money on it will be participated by fewer people that's why the rewards will be huge. The "big rewards" right now are coming from those who want to invest their own money in order to get a huge portion of the allocation, and from those who have many referrals.
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Of course there is need for airdrops participants to change their minds towards their participation on airdrops campaign, most times there are less rewards due high influx of people so most of them wouldn't have any other alternatives than to look into elsewhere to gain rewards by joining trading while some of them discovered this forum and started raising good account to join campaign to start earning from sig.
also see the airdrop participants are increasing so that the allocation we receive is getting smaller. I think the airdrop is worthless right now that's why I'm more active in the signature campaign, where the income is consistent and paid BTC every[p week.
That's why we can only run airdrops as a side income, we must still have a main income that is certain every month or every week.
Relying on airdrop results alone is quite difficult because we need a lot of time for the project to be launched, while we still have to spend money for our daily needs. Indeed, sometimes there are airdrops that give very large prizes, but that is also rare.
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Of course there is need for airdrops participants to change their minds towards their participation on airdrops campaign, most times there are less rewards due high influx of people so most of them wouldn't have any other alternatives than to look into elsewhere to gain rewards by joining trading while some of them discovered this forum and started raising good account to join campaign to start earning from sig.
also see the airdrop participants are increasing so that the allocation we receive is getting smaller. I think the airdrop is worthless right now that's why I'm more active in the signature campaign, where the income is consistent and paid BTC every[p week.
Airdrop is actually still feasible, but if compared to before, of course it is different. Not everyone can do Signature, because not everyone is familiar with this forum. I often ask Airdrop hunters about Signature, and many of them answer that they really don't know. If we want to be successful in Airdrop, we must be really consistent in doing it. And choose Airdrop that has capital, because on average Airdrop models like that will get potential rewards.
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well it depends if you are so willing to hold for a long time until the next bull run then i think it’s fine to buy no matter how long the bear run may be which is usually just 4 years anyway considering previous cycles
Some people may assume it is too long time to hold until the next bullrun season. It is better to sell now, we can buy again in the next bearish season. Why we should hold if we can buy again with cheaper prices. During the bullrun season, it is the time for selling. I personally don't want to miss it.
that’s your strategy i think that longer for long will be much profitable than buying now then selling at a price not any more higher than the price you bought it for
Holding a long time should be very profitable if we choose the right time for entry (buying). But if we choose the wrong time, holding for a long time may be not very profitable.
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Every time the prices of cryptocurrencies stagnate, people are always going to feel like its not going up forever. No wonder the prices dips further more and then panics for the rest of the holders.
I can say things have changed since the 2018 bear market. Even in 2021 the market is not so alive but there are still altcoins that reaches its heights. This 2024 only BTC and a handful of altcoins are rising. Its like everyone is only interested in BTC.
Yes, once the prices of Bitcoin start dropping, therr are many newbies that are ready to even sell their Bitcoin at losses because of fear of loosing all their assets. Going through the bitcoin market memory lane, i will like to give you a flash back of the worst bear run in history of cryptocurrency that occurred in 2018.
As a matter of facts, there were many negative stories about the Bitcoin market prices in the past that has caused unnecessary sentiments amoung many traders/investors. In 2018, we experienced the worst bear run which lasted for about one year. During this horrible bear market, many people concluded that Bitcoin could crash to zero, and this impression were created all over the news and social networks, even critics, haters of Bitcoin took advantage of the situation by spreading numerous forcehood about Bitcoin crashing to zero. At some points, even at the heat of the dwindling prices during the bear run, which was like a meltdown, critics/haters caused many traders/investors to sell off their Bitcoin at the biggest loss.
In a nutshell, this past records are still in the memory of many people, especially traders, which has brought sentiments into the crypto market into this current market situations.
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well it depends if you are so willing to hold for a long time until the next bull run then i think it’s fine to buy no matter how long the bear run may be which is usually just 4 years anyway considering previous cycles
Some people may assume it is too long time to hold until the next bullrun season. It is better to sell now, we can buy again in the next bearish season. Why we should hold if we can buy again with cheaper prices. During the bullrun season, it is the time for selling. I personally don't want to miss it.
that’s your strategy i think that longer for long will be much profitable than buying now then selling at a price not any more higher than the price you bought it for
Holding a long time should be very profitable if we choose the right time for entry (buying). But if we choose the wrong time, holding for a long time may be not very profitable.
Hodling BTC for the next cycle to come will always be the best deal potential/ risk-management-wise.
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I think that hope for cryptocurrency is lost by those who see it only as a tool for speculation. Yes, the market is cyclical, and after growth, there is always a downturn, but technology continues to develop. Now it is important to look not only at the rates but also at the real applications of blockchain. For example, cryptocurrency payments are becoming more and more convenient, and there are already platforms that help businesses to easily work with digital assets, such as https://0xprocessing.com/commissions/ (https://0xprocessing.com/commissions/). Studying such solutions, one realizes that crypto is not only trading, but also a real tool for financial transactions.
Yes, I agree that cryptocurrency is not only trading but also a real tool for financial transactions. Especially when it is promoted to the masses like this.
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The year 2017-2019 was a golden opportunity for crypto users during which many people got huge amount of money from crypto which they themselves did not expect. And then they lost it again because they didn't have the ability to manage the amount of money they got. Crypto is a very attractive place. Here, whoever does not control himself and makes a wrong investment due to greed, no matter how much money he owns, he will lose it. But those who control themselves and do a lot of analysis and invest a small amount of money in crypto can also own a lot of money very quickly. It also depends a lot on luck. But one cannot leave it entirely to luck as this is where technical analysis comes in handy.
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I only give true stories from around me in the cryptocurrency space. This pure true story was told by himself when talking to me via Phone.
I have a friend, he even knew cryptocurrency since 2013 but got involved massively in 2017 when there were many ICOs. He also said that forums like altcoinstalks and bitcointalk have been inactive since 2019 (unfortunately, I was not told which username his account was, maybe to protect his privacy) and since then he has only worked on airdrops.
Then a few days ago he called me and said something like this:
-I see that in 2025 I have given up, I no longer want to be involved in cryptocurrency for many reasons, including the price of cryptocurrency not being like 2013 to 2021.
-He also said that from 2022 until now the cryptocurrency market is saturated and cannot be relied on to take advantage of trading.
-He also said "Just look now, Bitcoin seems reluctant to go up again and many altcoins have dropped in price so sharply".
I heard his words on the phone like with a cynical tone and disappointment towards cryptocurrency.
For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
- If there are such thoughts here in cryptocurrency, maybe we can't blame them because they don't have the same broad or long-term understanding of a topic like this in bitcoin or cryptocurrency. Until now, the majority of communities that enter here still feel frustration or disappointment.
But if our mindset is only positive, whatever happens in the market, I am pretty sure that we won't think about things like that in the end. Because we know that cryptocurrency or bitcoin is a really broad topic in this field.
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- If there are such thoughts here in cryptocurrency, maybe we can't blame them because they don't have the same broad or long-term understanding of a topic like this in bitcoin or cryptocurrency. Until now, the majority of communities that enter here still feel frustration or disappointment.
But if our mindset is only positive, whatever happens in the market, I am pretty sure that we won't think about things like that in the end. Because we know that cryptocurrency or bitcoin is a really broad topic in this field.
It's about the bigger picture.
Those who can't wait will have weak hands and drop their bags fast, whereas others will prevail and withstand such dips and corrections.
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Do not lose hope in crypto market might be the alts season can came by differ time in this year but definitely will come to shaw the power of crypto market.
Every market performed like trader or investors can feel badly like no more pump remains or feel tired while awaiting for alts season, better advise is to hold your spot bag for better returns.
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Do not lose hope in crypto market might be the alts season can came by differ time in this year but definitely will come to shaw the power of crypto market.
Every market performed like trader or investors can feel badly like no more pump remains or feel tired while awaiting for alts season, better advise is to hold your spot bag for better returns.
There is always hope in crypto but it is foolish to hope too much. Because the market is completely dependent on bitcoin, how can altcoins be expected to do well when the price of bitcoin is only going down. The crypto market is now on the way down. And we will probably see bear season very soon. So it would be foolish to think about Altcoins now. Alt's season doesn't seem to come this halving. but maybe we will see something big in the next Halving in altcoins
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There is always hope in crypto but it is foolish to hope too much. Because the market is completely dependent on bitcoin, how can altcoins be expected to do well when the price of bitcoin is only going down. The crypto market is now on the way down. And we will probably see bear season very soon. So it would be foolish to think about Altcoins now. Alt's season doesn't seem to come this halving. but maybe we will see something big in the next Halving in altcoins
Let's wind through 2025 and see whether the Bear would show its paws or not.
I keep thinking we are not done yet.
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There is always hope in crypto but it is foolish to hope too much. Because the market is completely dependent on bitcoin, how can altcoins be expected to do well when the price of bitcoin is only going down. The crypto market is now on the way down. And we will probably see bear season very soon. So it would be foolish to think about Altcoins now. Alt's season doesn't seem to come this halving. but maybe we will see something big in the next Halving in altcoins
Let's wind through 2025 and see whether the Bear would show its paws or not.
I keep thinking we are not done yet.
We are not done yet since we are still on Q1 of this year 2025 and we arent that even touching Q2 and Q3 on which supposedly the anticipated Bull run. It is really just that people do become that too impatient for the bull run to come. For those who had been on this market for a while then they are really just that relax and sitting still and waiting up for the time to come.
Accumulate even more at the moment or time that the market do make out some retracement on which this will really be that usually the sweetest spot to accumulate even more. Experienced people are different when it comes into their approach in comparing into those who are just that new but well we do all starts on being a noob but once you do have a good grasps towards the market then you would be able to realize.
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There is always hope in crypto but it is foolish to hope too much. Because the market is completely dependent on bitcoin, how can altcoins be expected to do well when the price of bitcoin is only going down. The crypto market is now on the way down. And we will probably see bear season very soon. So it would be foolish to think about Altcoins now. Alt's season doesn't seem to come this halving. but maybe we will see something big in the next Halving in altcoins
Let's wind through 2025 and see whether the Bear would show its paws or not.
I keep thinking we are not done yet.
We are not done yet since we are still on Q1 of this year 2025 and we arent that even touching Q2 and Q3 on which supposedly the anticipated Bull run. It is really just that people do become that too impatient for the bull run to come. For those who had been on this market for a while then they are really just that relax and sitting still and waiting up for the time to come.
Accumulate even more at the moment or time that the market do make out some retracement on which this will really be that usually the sweetest spot to accumulate even more. Experienced people are different when it comes into their approach in comparing into those who are just that new but well we do all starts on being a noob but once you do have a good grasps towards the market then you would be able to realize.
For those who have been investing in crypto for a long time understand what you are saying that this is only Q1, and we should wait because there are still Q2 and Q3.
We are still hoping for a top and bullish season, this will likely happen in Q2 or Q3 this year, so we should stay calm and wait.
I also haven't sold most of the coins I have.
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There is always hope in crypto but it is foolish to hope too much. Because the market is completely dependent on bitcoin, how can altcoins be expected to do well when the price of bitcoin is only going down. The crypto market is now on the way down. And we will probably see bear season very soon. So it would be foolish to think about Altcoins now. Alt's season doesn't seem to come this halving. but maybe we will see something big in the next Halving in altcoins
Let's wind through 2025 and see whether the Bear would show its paws or not.
I keep thinking we are not done yet.
We are not done yet since we are still on Q1 of this year 2025 and we arent that even touching Q2 and Q3 on which supposedly the anticipated Bull run. It is really just that people do become that too impatient for the bull run to come. For those who had been on this market for a while then they are really just that relax and sitting still and waiting up for the time to come.
Accumulate even more at the moment or time that the market do make out some retracement on which this will really be that usually the sweetest spot to accumulate even more. Experienced people are different when it comes into their approach in comparing into those who are just that new but well we do all starts on being a noob but once you do have a good grasps towards the market then you would be able to realize.
For those who have been investing in crypto for a long time understand what you are saying that this is only Q1, and we should wait because there are still Q2 and Q3.
We are still hoping for a top and bullish season, this will likely happen in Q2 or Q3 this year, so we should stay calm and wait.
I also haven't sold most of the coins I have.
In this one year there will definitely be some price changes in this cryptocurrency, Bitcoin and Altcoin still have the potential to increase in price again. We should not be pessimistic, at a time when the market is sluggish, we should focus on the assets we have. We prepare for the possibility of an increase in Q2 or Q3 this year.
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Some of the people I know who entered the crypto space around 2013- 2021 are long-time millionaires. They were even telling me now that crypto investment made them who they are now because they invested in Bitcoin and some other altcoins early. They learn to take profits on time before the crash of the market because when you enter the crypto market, what you should learn is how the market is, when the bull run and bearish market starts.
Maybe your friend didn't get to find out about that; he invested in crypto without having a target price to sell his crypto coins. When the market crashed, he lost all.
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Some of the people I know who entered the crypto space around 2013- 2021 are long-time millionaires. They were even telling me now that crypto investment made them who they are now because they invested in Bitcoin and some other altcoins early. They learn to take profits on time before the crash of the market because when you enter the crypto market, what you should learn is how the market is, when the bull run and bearish market starts.
Maybe your friend didn't get to find out about that; he invested in crypto without having a target price to sell his crypto coins. When the market crashed, he lost all.
and the years were actually a truly bad years for crypto development. buy, if they beloeve on crypto, theh really could be a billionaire if holding. as you said, from years to years the invrease of Bitcoin was really incredible. and this can be a very great moment to take profits from long term holding from very small price.
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Some of the people I know who entered the crypto space around 2013- 2021 are long-time millionaires. They were even telling me now that crypto investment made them who they are now because they invested in Bitcoin and some other altcoins early. They learn to take profits on time before the crash of the market because when you enter the crypto market, what you should learn is how the market is, when the bull run and bearish market starts.
Speaking of this one, I again lost the opportunity of selling my assets at the peak and buying it again at the bottom.
I'm talking about the recent dump of the crypto market. I've seen a sign of a possible bearish movement of it already like the Bearish Divergence which is a very powerful tool when it comes to trading. I completely ignored it, and in the end, it's haunting me yet again.
I can just imagine if I just sold all of my Bitcoins at the $100,000 or even the $105,000 price level and then buying it again at the near $80,000-$85,000. I could've had around 15-20% more Bitcoins right now. Well, it is what it is and the "people" that you know are right. You just need to know when to enter, and when to sell if needed in order to be profitable in the crypto space.
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Market can not perform as per our desired, Market are supreme and can not control by anyone, As on time crypto market is performing like so board and unable to perform the ETH which is King of All alts, So no need to worry about the market bcz sentiment can change anytime if ETH pump only 10% to 15% all bulls can active and alts can give a great perform after the ETH.
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Some of the people I know who entered the crypto space around 2013- 2021 are long-time millionaires. They were even telling me now that crypto investment made them who they are now because they invested in Bitcoin and some other altcoins early. They learn to take profits on time before the crash of the market because when you enter the crypto market, what you should learn is how the market is, when the bull run and bearish market starts.
Speaking of this one, I again lost the opportunity of selling my assets at the peak and buying it again at the bottom.
I'm talking about the recent dump of the crypto market. I've seen a sign of a possible bearish movement of it already like the Bearish Divergence which is a very powerful tool when it comes to trading. I completely ignored it, and in the end, it's haunting me yet again.
I can just imagine if I just sold all of my Bitcoins at the $100,000 or even the $105,000 price level and then buying it again at the near $80,000-$85,000. I could've had around 15-20% more Bitcoins right now. Well, it is what it is and the "people" that you know are right. You just need to know when to enter, and when to sell if needed in order to be profitable in the crypto space.
In my opinion, Bitcoin is likely touching the $100 level, it is not too late to lose hope, the market can pull some surprises, and I still think that $98 to $100k is certain by my forecast, in the short term.
I don't think it is necessary to blame self for lack of market sells decision to sell at the peak of the market. A rebound is loading and I that that there is bear signals yet, the market may be loading and I still think that Bitcoin price is bullish above $85k price levels.
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Some of the people I know who entered the crypto space around 2013- 2021 are long-time millionaires. They were even telling me now that crypto investment made them who they are now because they invested in Bitcoin and some other altcoins early. They learn to take profits on time before the crash of the market because when you enter the crypto market, what you should learn is how the market is, when the bull run and bearish market starts.
Speaking of this one, I again lost the opportunity of selling my assets at the peak and buying it again at the bottom.
I'm talking about the recent dump of the crypto market. I've seen a sign of a possible bearish movement of it already like the Bearish Divergence which is a very powerful tool when it comes to trading. I completely ignored it, and in the end, it's haunting me yet again.
I can just imagine if I just sold all of my Bitcoins at the $100,000 or even the $105,000 price level and then buying it again at the near $80,000-$85,000. I could've had around 15-20% more Bitcoins right now. Well, it is what it is and the "people" that you know are right. You just need to know when to enter, and when to sell if needed in order to be profitable in the crypto space.
In my opinion, Bitcoin is likely touching the $100 level, it is not too late to lose hope, the market can pull some surprises, and I still think that $98 to $100k is certain by my forecast, in the short term.
I don't think it is necessary to blame self for lack of market sells decision to sell at the peak of the market. A rebound is loading and I that that there is bear signals yet, the market may be loading and I still think that Bitcoin price is bullish above $85k price levels.
I also have confidence that bitcoin price will go up to $100K again. and with the rebound we will see altcoins also go up in price.
I am still hunting for some altcoins that I think will increase in the next few months. My focus is on the top coins.
I think almost the majority of investors are doing it right now
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I also have confidence that bitcoin price will go up to $100K again. and with the rebound we will see altcoins also go up in price.
I am still hunting for some altcoins that I think will increase in the next few months. My focus is on the top coins.
I think almost the majority of investors are doing it right now
In my viewpoint, Bitcoin has a possibility and is capable to comeback again to the region of $100k and even more higher because of rising institutional involvement and demand. It is entirely possible that if history will follow its trend, bitcoin will cross its all time high considering it has risen dramatically for several times before. To summarise the prior paragraphs investing in altcoins backed up by strong fundamental also have a possibility of soaring, With Bitcoin often leading for the alts. This is important because it is possible to choose Bitcoin as main coin because they have massive users base and they have proved to have sustainable prices. That is why, if this trend continues, this year could be a more interesting period for the crypto world.
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Yes, it was valid when he used the word saturated. There is truth on it; the market is flooded with too many memes, too many shitcoins, and too many scams, but compared to what he is feeling and views about the industry, we are still doing good, the industry is very robust, all the kinds actors are here and if you want to come out safe and profitable, you have to upgrade your knowledge.
The old days are great but the industry is progressing.
To me, the industry is doing absolutely fine but it depends on our choices, generally it might not be good with everyone because of their decision, let's not forget that some people started their crypto journey with those pump and dump coins without knowing what's likely to happen though they crypto space keeps expanding with the same people learning from their past but the question is can they easily let go of the past, who knows the amount they have lost so far.
If one one must stay out of untrusted system, such person must understand that he or she will have to differentiate between the good and bad in the system to enable him not to see things in negative way though it depends our level of involvement.
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To me, the industry is doing absolutely fine but it depends on our choices, generally it might not be good with everyone because of their decision,
you make a good point the industry is not all totally hopeless there’s still some good projects that allows you to earn from and can be useful to you
you just have to choose carefully
let's not forget that some people started their crypto journey with those pump and dump coins without knowing what's likely to happen though they crypto space keeps expanding with the same people learning from their past but the question is can they easily let go of the past, who knows the amount they have lost so far.
this shows how important to do your research before you even try to get in on one of the projects you can’t just jump into something without knowing much about it but experience will always teach you
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- According to what I've read about ico, it seems to have been successful around 2017 if I'm not mistaken because many crypto communities in this field have also made huge earnings through ico projects that rose during those times.
But it also seems like I don't see any ico projects now that are rising in bounties that become successful in the end, because most of them just pop up but I haven't heard of any participants who said that someone paid them and the price of it shot up in the market, I haven't seen or read any such situations.
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For those who have been investing in crypto for a long time understand what you are saying that this is only Q1, and we should wait because there are still Q2 and Q3.
We are still hoping for a top and bullish season, this will likely happen in Q2 or Q3 this year, so we should stay calm and wait.
I also haven't sold most of the coins I have.
Indeed. We have Q1, Q2, Q3, and Q4 of 2025. If crypto prices are not very well in Q1, it may be increasing well in Q2, Q3, or Q4. As long as there is still a chance for the crypto prices to increase again, I think we don't need to lose hope. I personally can't say about the top prices of crypto coins, we may already reach the top prices. But to expect the price of crypto coins increasing again is not a mistake. For example, Bitcoin may increase again to $100k. I assume it is still possible as long as Bitcoin doesn't drop to $50k - $60k.
DWYOR
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- According to what I've read about ico, it seems to have been successful around 2017 if I'm not mistaken because many crypto communities in this field have also made huge earnings through ico projects that rose during those times.
But it also seems like I don't see any ico projects now that are rising in bounties that become successful in the end, because most of them just pop up but I haven't heard of any participants who said that someone paid them and the price of it shot up in the market, I haven't seen or read any such situations.
I also believe that the ICO market has shifted in certain regards as well. As you pointed earlier, in the previous years the majority of the ICO projects were able to generate significant revenue and develop efficient and enthusiastic communities. However, in recent days many projects appear quite spontaneously, and storeys about the fantastic success of the latest ICO can be met quite rarely. This is because some of the many projects are not well managed or there is low investors involvement from a lack of information. As we have observed, in such a competitive market, it becomes really challenging on the part of entrepreneurs to identify projects that are capable of delivering quick performance, and what is worse, we do not have such an experience when we can witness a project that performs extraordinarily at the first instance.
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- According to what I've read about ico, it seems to have been successful around 2017 if I'm not mistaken because many crypto communities in this field have also made huge earnings through ico projects that rose during those times.
But it also seems like I don't see any ico projects now that are rising in bounties that become successful in the end, because most of them just pop up but I haven't heard of any participants who said that someone paid them and the price of it shot up in the market, I haven't seen or read any such situations.
I also believe that the ICO market has shifted in certain regards as well. As you pointed earlier, in the previous years the majority of the ICO projects were able to generate significant revenue and develop efficient and enthusiastic communities. However, in recent days many projects appear quite spontaneously, and storeys about the fantastic success of the latest ICO can be met quite rarely. This is because some of the many projects are not well managed or there is low investors involvement from a lack of information. As we have observed, in such a competitive market, it becomes really challenging on the part of entrepreneurs to identify projects that are capable of delivering quick performance, and what is worse, we do not have such an experience when we can witness a project that performs extraordinarily at the first instance.
Or simply it do becomes saturated and this is something that do happen after all the years on which there are tons of projects that launches on a very short time period and most of them are just that copy cats or using up on the same chain and having no relevance in terms of utility. The worst thing is that most people are now getting fond of dealing up with meme coins on which i could say that this is where most hype do generate out because we've seen that there are really those people who do get become millionaire because of it. Lost hope just because the market isnt moving as it should be? Changes are inevitable because investors views do changed up overtime specially their own inputs at the same time in speaking about impressions and views.
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Indeed. We have Q1, Q2, Q3, and Q4 of 2025. If crypto prices are not very well in Q1, it may be increasing well in Q2, Q3, or Q4. As long as there is still a chance for the crypto prices to increase again, I think we don't need to lose hope. I personally can't say about the top prices of crypto coins, we may already reach the top prices. But to expect the price of crypto coins increasing again is not a mistake. For example, Bitcoin may increase again to $100k. I assume it is still possible as long as Bitcoin doesn't drop to $50k - $60k.
DWYOR
I would say it would happen once the tariff wars would end and the broader market would be injected with a dose of confidence, then liquidity should return to its rightful place, and then - the crypto market too.
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Or simply it do becomes saturated and this is something that do happen after all the years on which there are tons of projects that launches on a very short time period and most of them are just that copy cats or using up on the same chain and having no relevance in terms of utility. The worst thing is that most people are now getting fond of dealing up with meme coins on which i could say that this is where most hype do generate out because we've seen that there are really those people who do get become millionaire because of it. Lost hope just because the market isnt moving as it should be? Changes are inevitable because investors views do changed up overtime specially their own inputs at the same time in speaking about impressions and views.
You are not an exception to find yourself surrounded by circumstances that do not work the way you desired. However, getting to this far closes one’s eyes and will actually find that there is much more yet to be missed. Yes, change does happen but it has been noted that more mature decisions can be made in such conditions without undue euphoric pressure. Indeed, if you consider only those solutions that potentially bring profit shortly, it will certainly be very hard to identify the great potential in all that. In various spheres of life it is important to realise that many great things in this world started from something that was once considered ordinary or even underestimated. What remains are not tabloid-oriented but what actually has the substance which can be equivalent to the value. Therefore, it is advisable to shift the focus a bit and think in a different way, and to start envisaging further away.
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You are not an exception to find yourself surrounded by circumstances that do not work the way you desired. However, getting to this far closes one’s eyes and will actually find that there is much more yet to be missed. Yes, change does happen but it has been noted that more mature decisions can be made in such conditions without undue euphoric pressure. Indeed, if you consider only those solutions that potentially bring profit shortly, it will certainly be very hard to identify the great potential in all that. In various spheres of life it is important to realise that many great things in this world started from something that was once considered ordinary or even underestimated. What remains are not tabloid-oriented but what actually has the substance which can be equivalent to the value. Therefore, it is advisable to shift the focus a bit and think in a different way, and to start envisaging further away.
We just need to never stop working toward our goals and learn upon our mistakes.
Once we get enough knowledge and experience - it will start to click.
And things will get much easier ;)
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- According to what I've read about ico, it seems to have been successful around 2017 if I'm not mistaken because many crypto communities in this field have also made huge earnings through ico projects that rose during those times.
But it also seems like I don't see any ico projects now that are rising in bounties that become successful in the end, because most of them just pop up but I haven't heard of any participants who said that someone paid them and the price of it shot up in the market, I haven't seen or read any such situations.
I also believe that the ICO market has shifted in certain regards as well. As you pointed earlier, in the previous years the majority of the ICO projects were able to generate significant revenue and develop efficient and enthusiastic communities. However, in recent days many projects appear quite spontaneously, and storeys about the fantastic success of the latest ICO can be met quite rarely. This is because some of the many projects are not well managed or there is low investors involvement from a lack of information. As we have observed, in such a competitive market, it becomes really challenging on the part of entrepreneurs to identify projects that are capable of delivering quick performance, and what is worse, we do not have such an experience when we can witness a project that performs extraordinarily at the first instance.
Or simply it do becomes saturated and this is something that do happen after all the years on which there are tons of projects that launches on a very short time period and most of them are just that copy cats or using up on the same chain and having no relevance in terms of utility. The worst thing is that most people are now getting fond of dealing up with meme coins on which i could say that this is where most hype do generate out because we've seen that there are really those people who do get become millionaire because of it. Lost hope just because the market isnt moving as it should be? Changes are inevitable because investors views do changed up overtime specially their own inputs at the same time in speaking about impressions and views.
But I noticed that too, I haven't heard of any successful ICOs in the cryptocurrency field at the moment, although I see some ICOs in bounties but I don't see anyone paying rewards to those who participated in their projects.
Because in 2017 I also experienced this year receiving rewards in an ICO campaign and I also received good earnings no matter what and by that time my position was still low rank despite that so I can say that 2017 was a good time compared to now which is really gone.
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Cryptocurrency gives us hope that we can get solid friends and communicate with each other every day even though we are in different continents and countries. Cryptocurrency also provides very qualified knowledge about digital technology, especially in the blockchain field.
I think OP's friend is already bored of being active in cryptocurrency and indeed if that feeling cannot be forced.
Maybe for OP's friend if he wants to retire in cryptocurrency, please retire because that can make his life comfortable and peaceful.
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But I noticed that too, I haven't heard of any successful ICOs in the cryptocurrency field at the moment, although I see some ICOs in bounties but I don't see anyone paying rewards to those who participated in their projects.
Because in 2017 I also experienced this year receiving rewards in an ICO campaign and I also received good earnings no matter what and by that time my position was still low rank despite that so I can say that 2017 was a good time compared to now which is really gone.
ICOs era has been over already, it makes sense if there is no success UCOs anymore. I think people have no interest anymore to invest in ICOs projects. They prefer to buy new coins/tokens when they are already listed in the exchanges. I think people feel afraid with ICO projects because there are too many failed ICO projects.
Yes, in 2016-2017, the payment from the campaign of ICO projects were very well. At that time, there were many successful ICO projects. It is very different with ICO projects recently. Now, most of them are scams or weak projects.
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But I noticed that too, I haven't heard of any successful ICOs in the cryptocurrency field at the moment, although I see some ICOs in bounties but I don't see anyone paying rewards to those who participated in their projects.
Because in 2017 I also experienced this year receiving rewards in an ICO campaign and I also received good earnings no matter what and by that time my position was still low rank despite that so I can say that 2017 was a good time compared to now which is really gone.
ICOs era has been over already, it makes sense if there is no success UCOs anymore. I think people have no interest anymore to invest in ICOs projects. They prefer to buy new coins/tokens when they are already listed in the exchanges. I think people feel afraid with ICO projects because there are too many failed ICO projects.
Yes, in 2016-2017, the payment from the campaign of ICO projects were very well. At that time, there were many successful ICO projects. It is very different with ICO projects recently. Now, most of them are scams or weak projects.
Who would forget that era? until to the first quarter of 2018 wherein there are a lot of ways to make money out of ICO. And perhaps it was mentioned because of comparison but it doesn't mean that we are literally in the ICO era.
We already past that stage although it has evolved a lot in the last 7 years or so. Every bull run cycle there will be one project that is going to be hype but then again, after the market has been saturated it will die down a natural death. So it's going to be cyclical, and as long as developers are not running out of ideas, new project will emerge in the future.
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If your friend knew Bitcoin since 2013 and Bitcoin was associated with this forum of Altcoinstalks.com. Then I would say he was a little knowledgeable. Because between 2016 and 2020 I had some friends who owned a lot of wealth. And they are living a luxury life now. If your friend had known Bitcoin before and about this forum, he would not have said that. I think he was lazy nature he did not do this. He seems to do that because he has no money in his wallet.
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I think that hope for cryptocurrency is lost by those who see it only as a tool for speculation. Yes, the market is cyclical, and after growth, there is always a downturn, but technology continues to develop. Now it is important to look not only at the rates but also at the real applications of blockchain. For example, cryptocurrency payments are becoming more and more convenient, and there are already platforms that help businesses to easily work with digital assets, such as https://0xprocessing.com/commissions/ (https://0xprocessing.com/commissions/). Studying such solutions, one realizes that crypto is not only trading, but also a real tool for financial transactions.
Yes, I agree that cryptocurrency is not only trading but also a real tool for financial transactions. Especially when it is promoted to the masses like this.
Yes, we who are involved in this crypto market know very well that this crypto currency is not just for trading, it is a prominent way of transaction for many prominent traders and see. Many traders make big transactions through it so they can do it carefully. And we also know that this crypto currency is more or less spread to the national population all over the world.
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But I noticed that too, I haven't heard of any successful ICOs in the cryptocurrency field at the moment, although I see some ICOs in bounties but I don't see anyone paying rewards to those who participated in their projects.
Because in 2017 I also experienced this year receiving rewards in an ICO campaign and I also received good earnings no matter what and by that time my position was still low rank despite that so I can say that 2017 was a good time compared to now which is really gone.
ICOs era has been over already, it makes sense if there is no success UCOs anymore. I think people have no interest anymore to invest in ICOs projects. They prefer to buy new coins/tokens when they are already listed in the exchanges. I think people feel afraid with ICO projects because there are too many failed ICO projects.
Yes, in 2016-2017, the payment from the campaign of ICO projects were very well. At that time, there were many successful ICO projects. It is very different with ICO projects recently. Now, most of them are scams or weak projects.
Who would forget that era? until to the first quarter of 2018 wherein there are a lot of ways to make money out of ICO. And perhaps it was mentioned because of comparison but it doesn't mean that we are literally in the ICO era.
We already past that stage although it has evolved a lot in the last 7 years or so. Every bull run cycle there will be one project that is going to be hype but then again, after the market has been saturated it will die down a natural death. So it's going to be cyclical, and as long as developers are not running out of ideas, new project will emerge in the future.
new projects will always appear and we can choose which project is good for investment. and as you said every cycle we can see projects that have sensation and success, but if the dev team does not make improvements and keep the project good and in demand by many people then the project will fail and become worthless.
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I would say it would happen once the tariff wars would end and the broader market would be injected with a dose of confidence, then liquidity should return to its rightful place, and then - the crypto market too.
I am not that sure if this tariff war will end that quickly since we can see and read news where there are countries that retaliates so yeah I am really expecting this to last long if no one is gonna find a peaceful solution to the said issue. Crypto for me has it's own flow regardless of what had happened to the world it still continue it's growth though there are seasonal hype and trends but they usually lasts few months and then back to normal again and I think that is how crypto's nature.
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If your friend knew Bitcoin since 2013 and Bitcoin was associated with this forum of Altcoinstalks.com. Then I would say he was a little knowledgeable. Because between 2016 and 2020 I had some friends who owned a lot of wealth. And they are living a luxury life now. If your friend had known Bitcoin before and about this forum, he would not have said that. I think he was lazy nature he did not do this. He seems to do that because he has no money in his wallet.
This means in some cases people make conclusions which are hasty, occurring on the basis of mere observing the exterior. Somebody might be aware of the existence of bitcoins for years but there are a number of people following the same that do not act. Some goalkeepers are in doubt while some are by circumstances. 2013 was not the best time to have faith in something that most people do not comprehend. However, some of us may have the right circle, sharp instincts or the courage to take risk while still others are silent. Never take actions of people as the way they are because we are not aware of what they’ve been through. They may require extra time to do the task or may be they are having the remorse of missed chance. Nevertheless, one thing that is clear, people rise in their own time.
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new projects will always appear and we can choose which project is good for investment. and as you said every cycle we can see projects that have sensation and success, but if the dev team does not make improvements and keep the project good and in demand by many people then the project will fail and become worthless.
In a project, everything depends on the developers of that project. We have seen many projects that initially gained traction in the market and later failed in the market because the developers did not actively provide updates over time or did not provide upgrades that would be good for the community, but only provided upgrades that would benefit them.
If I were to talk about the current bad state of Ethereum, I would also attribute it to the upgrades of its developers, where the community or general investors have benefited less and its developers have benefited more.
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In a project, everything depends on the developers of that project. We have seen many projects that initially gained traction in the market and later failed in the market because the developers did not actively provide updates over time or did not provide upgrades that would be good for the community, but only provided upgrades that would benefit them.
If I were to talk about the current bad state of Ethereum, I would also attribute it to the upgrades of its developers, where the community or general investors have benefited less and its developers have benefited more.
In fact, there are many developers who only focus on achieving profits from creating projects, but are not really serious about creating and developing them. In the past, indeed, there were actually several projects whose results we can even see until now, whose development was very significant and could even penetrate the top coins in CMC, not only that, even the projects continue to develop.
It's just that when we talk about many projects, it is undeniable that some developers are just full of shit. already profit - forget - create a new project - profit - forget and so on until the victims are countless.
That's why, it is indeed our obligation to understand this situation and not be fooled by anything related to new projects. and be more able to take advantage of the situation so that we no longer become victims of these shit projects, and if possible, take advantage of it too, by hit and run and utilizing the pump and dump pattern, it's just that, this is also a high risk, but the potential gain is also quite good.
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That's why, it is indeed our obligation to understand this situation and not be fooled by anything related to new projects. and be more able to take advantage of the situation so that we no longer become victims of these shit projects, and if possible, take advantage of it too, by hit and run and utilizing the pump and dump pattern, it's just that, this is also a high risk, but the potential gain is also quite good.
It is true that it is possible to gain potential profits by investing in new projects, but if we analyze on a large scale, most people face losses here.
And that is why most people who have good knowledge about the crypto space often suggest that if you want to invest in Bitcoin and invest in alt coins to get diversity, you must invest in a small amount, although the investment amount here may be a little higher, but they are on top and potential alt coins.
Moreover, I think that you should not go to high risk by investing in new coins. And if someone is a beginner, then his risk amount doubles.
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That's why, it is indeed our obligation to understand this situation and not be fooled by anything related to new projects. and be more able to take advantage of the situation so that we no longer become victims of these shit projects, and if possible, take advantage of it too, by hit and run and utilizing the pump and dump pattern, it's just that, this is also a high risk, but the potential gain is also quite good.
It is true that it is possible to gain potential profits by investing in new projects, but if we analyze on a large scale, most people face losses here.
And that is why most people who have good knowledge about the crypto space often suggest that if you want to invest in Bitcoin and invest in alt coins to get diversity, you must invest in a small amount, although the investment amount here may be a little higher, but they are on top and potential alt coins.
Moreover, I think that you should not go to high risk by investing in new coins. And if someone is a beginner, then his risk amount doubles.
Actually, your comment is also very prefer in this moment. I also believe that if we invest in new project, i think that it will be very profitable source for earn best profit from cryptocurrency market. But i also believe that if we were a new investor in cryptocurrency market, i believe that then it will be very difficult for us. Because we know that crypto knowledge is one of the best way for earn best profit in cryptocurrency market. So i think that we should understand clearly in cryptocurrency market.
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That's why, it is indeed our obligation to understand this situation and not be fooled by anything related to new projects. and be more able to take advantage of the situation so that we no longer become victims of these shit projects, and if possible, take advantage of it too, by hit and run and utilizing the pump and dump pattern, it's just that, this is also a high risk, but the potential gain is also quite good.
It is true that it is possible to gain potential profits by investing in new projects, but if we analyze on a large scale, most people face losses here.
And that is why most people who have good knowledge about the crypto space often suggest that if you want to invest in Bitcoin and invest in alt coins to get diversity, you must invest in a small amount, although the investment amount here may be a little higher, but they are on top and potential alt coins.
Moreover, I think that you should not go to high risk by investing in new coins. And if someone is a beginner, then his risk amount doubles.
I think those who are taking that risk is not that old and traditional crypto investors. I mean as in my case, I have have in the market for 7 years plus and so I'm not into this high risk high rewards pump and dump crypto.
I still remain in the basics, Bitcoin and some solid altcoin although right now, they doesn't look good as the altcoin market doesn't have the success that Bitcoin has.
Still though, I'm not going to go near those kind of pump and dump project. And I guess it's not for everyone too.
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That's why, it is indeed our obligation to understand this situation and not be fooled by anything related to new projects. and be more able to take advantage of the situation so that we no longer become victims of these shit projects, and if possible, take advantage of it too, by hit and run and utilizing the pump and dump pattern, it's just that, this is also a high risk, but the potential gain is also quite good.
It is true that it is possible to gain potential profits by investing in new projects, but if we analyze on a large scale, most people face losses here.
And that is why most people who have good knowledge about the crypto space often suggest that if you want to invest in Bitcoin and invest in alt coins to get diversity, you must invest in a small amount, although the investment amount here may be a little higher, but they are on top and potential alt coins.
Moreover, I think that you should not go to high risk by investing in new coins. And if someone is a beginner, then his risk amount doubles.
Actually, your comment is also very prefer in this moment. I also believe that if we invest in new project, i think that it will be very profitable source for earn best profit from cryptocurrency market. But i also believe that if we were a new investor in cryptocurrency market, i believe that then it will be very difficult for us. Because we know that crypto knowledge is one of the best way for earn best profit in cryptocurrency market. So i think that we should understand clearly in cryptocurrency market.
I actually agree with the comment you have presented here. It is natural for us that if we invest in a token in a new crypto market, then there is a way for us to make good profits from it. But we have to think that if we are new to a token and we do not have the knowledge about it, then it becomes very difficult for us to invest there. That is why I think that if we are going to invest in a crypto market, we have to first analyze it and verify whether I can still be profitable there.
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I actually agree with the comment you have presented here. It is natural for us that if we invest in a token in a new crypto market, then there is a way for us to make good profits from it. But we have to think that if we are new to a token and we do not have the knowledge about it, then it becomes very difficult for us to invest there. That is why I think that if we are going to invest in a crypto market, we have to first analyze it and verify whether I can still be profitable there.
Before investing, do an analysis and make sure we still have a chance to make a profit, because this is a risky business. If we analyze wrongly and get caught in a high price, we will have difficulty making a profit.
I still believe that if we buy these coins now, they can still bring profit, so I still buy some coins that I think have good potential in the next few months.
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I think those who are taking that risk is not that old and traditional crypto investors. I mean as in my case, I have have in the market for 7 years plus and so I'm not into this high risk high rewards pump and dump crypto.
I still remain in the basics, Bitcoin and some solid altcoin although right now, they doesn't look good as the altcoin market doesn't have the success that Bitcoin has.
Still though, I'm not going to go near those kind of pump and dump project. And I guess it's not for everyone too.
I will say the right decision you have took.
I think in the current situation, this crypto space has become such a situation that even big whales plan and create projects and only take liquidation from the market.
If we talk about the recent Trumpcoin and the Mileniacoin coins, then we have already seen how they have filled their pockets with millions of dollars from the market. And here ordinary traders are harmed by just believing. So I also think not investing on those shitcoins would be good for us.
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I only give true stories from around me in the cryptocurrency space. This pure true story was told by himself when talking to me via Phone.
I have a friend, he even knew cryptocurrency since 2013 but got involved massively in 2017 when there were many ICOs. He also said that forums like altcoinstalks and bitcointalk have been inactive since 2019 (unfortunately, I was not told which username his account was, maybe to protect his privacy) and since then he has only worked on airdrops.
Then a few days ago he called me and said something like this:
-I see that in 2025 I have given up, I no longer want to be involved in cryptocurrency for many reasons, including the price of cryptocurrency not being like 2013 to 2021.
-He also said that from 2022 until now the cryptocurrency market is saturated and cannot be relied on to take advantage of trading.
-He also said "Just look now, Bitcoin seems reluctant to go up again and many altcoins have dropped in price so sharply".
I heard his words on the phone like with a cynical tone and disappointment towards cryptocurrency.
For those of you who have known cryptocurrency for a long time from 2021 onwards, is my friend's statement valid with what you are feeling right now?
I don't really get the context in which your friend is coming from because I have not seen any disappointment from Bitcoin personally even other crypto like BNB, ethereum and other ones mentioned, Bitcoin has been moving upward despite the price correction it encounters sometimes so what else do he expect, as a matter of fact Bitcoin reached the expected ATH last year which is the milestone we expected and crypto skyrocketed and many people made a lot of money from this, if we should put all of this into consideration, I want to ask your friend, was the price of Bitcoin higher during those days than now, I assume that your friend is among those people that weren't taking things serious then, he sounds more like someone who missed those opportunity and may be he's feeling bad because of his decision then.
Some people had the opportunity to buy Bitcoin as low as 4k but missed the opportunity not because they don't have the funds to buy but because of their unseriousness and inability to figure out what they really want, personally I think the market is very encouraging presently though the price is high than earlier but it doesn't prevent anyone from buying with the amount that fits their pucket even as the price of BTC has dip to $70k plus as a result of volatility which we know that this is price correction in process which may upsurge at any given time, this is also time for your friend to buy without procrastinating further.
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I will say the right decision you have took.
I think in the current situation, this crypto space has become such a situation that even big whales plan and create projects and only take liquidation from the market.
If we talk about the recent Trumpcoin and the Mileniacoin coins, then we have already seen how they have filled their pockets with millions of dollars from the market. And here ordinary traders are harmed by just believing. So I also think not investing on those shitcoins would be good for us.
Believers in such coins are rightfully punished for hodling for so long.
It's a great expereince to have and remember for the future ;)
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I think those who are taking that risk is not that old and traditional crypto investors. I mean as in my case, I have have in the market for 7 years plus and so I'm not into this high risk high rewards pump and dump crypto.
I still remain in the basics, Bitcoin and some solid altcoin although right now, they doesn't look good as the altcoin market doesn't have the success that Bitcoin has.
Still though, I'm not going to go near those kind of pump and dump project. And I guess it's not for everyone too.
I will say the right decision you have took.
I think in the current situation, this crypto space has become such a situation that even big whales plan and create projects and only take liquidation from the market.
If we talk about the recent Trumpcoin and the Mileniacoin coins, then we have already seen how they have filled their pockets with millions of dollars from the market. And here ordinary traders are harmed by just believing. So I also think not investing on those shitcoins would be good for us.
In the market , price changes occur wildly and rather randomly, choosing not to get involved randomly is also a stand that demonstrates composure. We are not blind with regards to the progression although we opt for having a selective vision, not falling easily to the lures of readily offers in the market that may not deliver the promise that it holds. Many things are designed for the sole advantage of some particular interest; once we realise that the pattern exists, then avoiding these traps is understandable as a course to take. We are not leaving opportunities behind, rather we are avoiding valueless risks in life which are not channelled on healthy foundation. It also allows for an indefinite future, and to approach it all in a more elaborate manner without a loss of a focus.
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Believers in such coins are rightfully punished for hodling for so long.
It's a great expereince to have and remember for the future ;)
Actually, I think a great experience will be when we learn from these mistakes and do not make such mistakes again in the future. Otherwise, if we make the same mistake again in the future with this experience, then I definitely will not call this experience great in any way.
We have seen many incidents in the market before that they liquidate millions of dollars from the market in this way but they make the same mistake in the future. In other words, we lose psychologically to the game that Whales play in the market and make the same mistake again and again. So we have to be psychologically fit in advance for such a project.
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That's why, it is indeed our obligation to understand this situation and not be fooled by anything related to new projects. and be more able to take advantage of the situation so that we no longer become victims of these shit projects, and if possible, take advantage of it too, by hit and run and utilizing the pump and dump pattern, it's just that, this is also a high risk, but the potential gain is also quite good.
It is true that it is possible to gain potential profits by investing in new projects, but if we analyze on a large scale, most people face losses here.
And that is why most people who have good knowledge about the crypto space often suggest that if you want to invest in Bitcoin and invest in alt coins to get diversity, you must invest in a small amount, although the investment amount here may be a little higher, but they are on top and potential alt coins.
Moreover, I think that you should not go to high risk by investing in new coins. And if someone is a beginner, then his risk amount doubles.
That's why the maturity of preparation is very important when you really want to invest in this kind of high rish new projects. because the risk is very high so that when it is indeed late to take the moment, it will end up being a panic loss. especially if the newcomers in the crypto world who only laugh FOMO about the hype new projects, then it will be quite dangerous because they may not even know the risks, only carried FOMO to buy.
And this is very different from people who are indeed ready and are indeed accustomed to the hit and run strategy in this new project, although the risk of loss remains, but the level of possibility to get profits is also quite good.
In essence, it all comes back to each of us, how we face a market like this, how we prepare and our ability to take high risks on new projects. If we are not ready, it is better not to force ourselves and it is better to focus on top coins that are indeed good for both short and long term periods.
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Before investing, do an analysis and make sure we still have a chance to make a profit, because this is a risky business. If we analyze wrongly and get caught in a high price, we will have difficulty making a profit.
I still believe that if we buy these coins now, they can still bring profit, so I still buy some coins that I think have good potential in the next few months.
Of course, we must do analysis firstly. And we must ensure to have good chance for taking profits. If it looks like to have small chance, we are better to wait and see first. Timing is very crucial in investment, we may lose money only if we choose the wrong time. Bearish season is always the best time to start investment in crypto. When it is in bullrun season, we must start in a big dump. But make sure there is still big chance for the next pump after the big dump. This is very important to determine the good time because it will ensure us to get enough profits.
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Before investing, do an analysis and make sure we still have a chance to make a profit, because this is a risky business. If we analyze wrongly and get caught in a high price, we will have difficulty making a profit.
I still believe that if we buy these coins now, they can still bring profit, so I still buy some coins that I think have good potential in the next few months.
Of course, we must do analysis firstly. And we must ensure to have good chance for taking profits. If it looks like to have small chance, we are better to wait and see first. Timing is very crucial in investment, we may lose money only if we choose the wrong time. Bearish season is always the best time to start investment in crypto. When it is in bullrun season, we must start in a big dump. But make sure there is still big chance for the next pump after the big dump. This is very important to determine the good time because it will ensure us to get enough profits.
I concur with this in investment which I understand that decisions made do not only hinge on technical fundamentals or patterns, but also on ability to keep calm while assessing the situation. It is always better to wait during shaky periods than to proceed aimlessly in any directions. Some are advised to make short-term moves and in effect, they lose sight of better chances because of impatience. You have a realistic attitude, and it can be seen that you put more prior than the mere wish to achieve a result. In view of such an attitude, you look very careful when it comes to risk assessment before taking any action, and that forms good grounds in developing a long term investment plan.
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Actually, I think a great experience will be when we learn from these mistakes and do not make such mistakes again in the future. Otherwise, if we make the same mistake again in the future with this experience, then I definitely will not call this experience great in any way.
We have seen many incidents in the market before that they liquidate millions of dollars from the market in this way but they make the same mistake in the future. In other words, we lose psychologically to the game that Whales play in the market and make the same mistake again and again. So we have to be psychologically fit in advance for such a project.
It's okay to make mistakes, it's not okay to repeat them and not to learn from them.
Those who understand it - thrive ;)
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In a project, everything depends on the developers of that project. We have seen many projects that initially gained traction in the market and later failed in the market because the developers did not actively provide updates over time or did not provide upgrades that would be good for the community, but only provided upgrades that would benefit them.
If I were to talk about the current bad state of Ethereum, I would also attribute it to the upgrades of its developers, where the community or general investors have benefited less and its developers have benefited more.
In fact, there are many developers who only focus on achieving profits from creating projects, but are not really serious about creating and developing them. In the past, indeed, there were actually several projects whose results we can even see until now, whose development was very significant and could even penetrate the top coins in CMC, not only that, even the projects continue to develop.
It's just that when we talk about many projects, it is undeniable that some developers are just full of shit. already profit - forget - create a new project - profit - forget and so on until the victims are countless.
That's why, it is indeed our obligation to understand this situation and not be fooled by anything related to new projects. and be more able to take advantage of the situation so that we no longer become victims of these shit projects, and if possible, take advantage of it too, by hit and run and utilizing the pump and dump pattern, it's just that, this is also a high risk, but the potential gain is also quite good.
I don't think I know of any developers who don't want to make a profit. All developers aim to make a profit. That's why so many cryptos are popping up, especially meme coins, thousands of which are created every day, and most of which end up being just garbage.
Now, if there are any crypto communities that are losing hope in this industry, it's on them, because there are still many who believe they can
make a profit from cryptocurrency.
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Of course, we must do analysis firstly. And we must ensure to have good chance for taking profits. If it looks like to have small chance, we are better to wait and see first. Timing is very crucial in investment, we may lose money only if we choose the wrong time. Bearish season is always the best time to start investment in crypto. When it is in bullrun season, we must start in a big dump. But make sure there is still big chance for the next pump after the big dump. This is very important to determine the good time because it will ensure us to get enough profits.
The current market is best for hodling big caps, others may drown in dips / corrections to come, especially new projects that need confidence.
Those who understand that, will get the best results in this cycle.
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I don't think I know of any developers who don't want to make a profit. All developers aim to make a profit. That's why so many cryptos are popping up, especially meme coins, thousands of which are created every day, and most of which end up being just garbage.
Now, if there are any crypto communities that are losing hope in this industry, it's on them, because there are still many who believe they can
make a profit from cryptocurrency.
Actually, most developers launch a coin or project with only commercial considerations. In this case, if we talk about Bitcoin, then the picture was completely different. The founder of Bitcoin originally created Bitcoin to build a decentralized ecosystem where people found it most important to have financial freedom.
But the current scenario is such that those launching new projects are only creating them for their own interests. In this case, what they say about the benefits to the community or investors is just for show. And that's why those in the crypto community who think they can make a profit by investing in crypto are losing hope.
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Of course, we must do analysis firstly. And we must ensure to have good chance for taking profits. If it looks like to have small chance, we are better to wait and see first. Timing is very crucial in investment, we may lose money only if we choose the wrong time. Bearish season is always the best time to start investment in crypto. When it is in bullrun season, we must start in a big dump. But make sure there is still big chance for the next pump after the big dump. This is very important to determine the good time because it will ensure us to get enough profits.
The current market is best for hodling big caps, others may drown in dips / corrections to come, especially new projects that need confidence.
Those who understand that, will get the best results in this cycle.
Best results arent guaranteed even lets say that you have bought with those big caps or top coins or projects in the market but still it will be relevant that you do need to be wise on when you should get in, because if you bought up into the peak then you do need up to wait even more or another cycle to be able to buy up or see your investment having some mere profits on which its not worth on holding on and thats why other people are really that trying out to sell out whenever they do see out that the current price could be its peak. Profit is profit and this is something that you do need up to consider all the time. Somehow not all are short term traders and actually those long time holders on which they arent that worrying too much into their current condition as long they are accumulating then they wont mind much about their entry.
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Best results arent guaranteed even lets say that you have bought with those big caps or top coins or projects in the market but still it will be relevant that you do need to be wise on when you should get in, because if you bought up into the peak then you do need up to wait even more or another cycle to be able to buy up or see your investment having some mere profits
In the crypto world, it is undeniable that it is associated with some who appear quite well for the development of sports prices in the market and also the development of crypto in general. However, it is indeed steely compared, some positive or negative things are still often found if we win, yes of course, because that is just an effort to get much more optimal profits.
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When you have had people build up their expectations over a long period on a particular thing and they are not getting the expected results, you will see their desire for that thing will be deeply reduced.
Your friend had many expectations placed on crypto, and he is not getting the desirable results, that is why he seems to be fade up with it because what he saw in the 2021 bull run is not what he is seeing in 2025 when many thought the market is supposed to be booming by now.
However, you will actually not blame him because he has no long term vision of hodling Bitcoin
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I don't think I know of any developers who don't want to make a profit. All developers aim to make a profit. That's why so many cryptos are popping up, especially meme coins, thousands of which are created every day, and most of which end up being just garbage.
Now, if there are any crypto communities that are losing hope in this industry, it's on them, because there are still many who believe they can
make a profit from cryptocurrency.
Actually, most developers launch a coin or project with only commercial considerations. In this case, if we talk about Bitcoin, then the picture was completely different. The founder of Bitcoin originally created Bitcoin to build a decentralized ecosystem where people found it most important to have financial freedom.
But the current scenario is such that those launching new projects are only creating them for their own interests. In this case, what they say about the benefits to the community or investors is just for show. And that's why those in the crypto community who think they can make a profit by investing in crypto are losing hope.
Probably in the early years like 2017 and in the beginning of 2018, there are a lot of developers who just really focus on making money as crypto market that time is a wild wild west. Someone will developed a supposedly good project and when there are a lot of money on them, they will just disappear or do a rug-pull and that is very bad for crypto investors.
And I think there is still this kind of individuals here, so we must be very careful on what project to invest as we can lose our money in an instant and probably this is one reason why we're losing hope in crypto even this year.
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Probably in the early years like 2017 and in the beginning of 2018, there are a lot of developers who just really focus on making money as crypto market that time is a wild wild west. Someone will developed a supposedly good project and when there are a lot of money on them, they will just disappear or do a rug-pull and that is very bad for crypto investors.
And I think there is still this kind of individuals here, so we must be very careful on what project to invest as we can lose our money in an instant and probably this is one reason why we're losing hope in crypto even this year.
These events have already happened, wouldn't you say that the entire system cannot be called a rugpool, Like a few month ago Donald Trump lunch Trump coin and millennia coin a few month ago and currently just watch they are current price. So I would also say this is also a rugpool by the Donald Trump.
And I think this kind of situation will keep coming up again and again in the future. And I also think that the potential market conditions that you are thinking about in 2017 and 2018 do not really match the current situation.
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When you have had people build up their expectations over a long period on a particular thing and they are not getting the expected results, you will see their desire for that thing will be deeply reduced.
Your friend had many expectations placed on crypto, and he is not getting the desirable results, that is why he seems to be fade up with it because what he saw in the 2021 bull run is not what he is seeing in 2025 when many thought the market is supposed to be booming by now.
However, you will actually not blame him because he has no long term vision of hodling Bitcoin
We still have till the rest of 2025, though.
And maybe our friend in question will become much happier when the market turns around eventually, but he should put hopes too big to be fit in the first place.
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Best results arent guaranteed even lets say that you have bought with those big caps or top coins or projects in the market but still it will be relevant that you do need to be wise on when you should get in, because if you bought up into the peak then you do need up to wait even more or another cycle to be able to buy up or see your investment having some mere profits
In the crypto world, it is undeniable that it is associated with some who appear quite well for the development of sports prices in the market and also the development of crypto in general. However, it is indeed steely compared, some positive or negative things are still often found if we win, yes of course, because that is just an effort to get much more optimal profits.
Profits is what we are all trying out to gain and thats the main reason why on why we are here into this market. Just that make yourself sure that you've been not that too optimistic because once you do able to encounter those conditions that you've seen the price hadnt pumped yet on which supposedly to be pumping up right now, then it will be bringing out that disappointment. Lost hope? People are just that too impatience when it comes into their investment career on which it turned out that they've been always that wanting that the market is always on the green side and not been considering about its volatility on which that needing up up for you to consider out these probabilities and dont make your mind to be closed because it could definitely happen.
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Best results arent guaranteed even lets say that you have bought with those big caps or top coins or projects in the market but still it will be relevant that you do need to be wise on when you should get in, because if you bought up into the peak then you do need up to wait even more or another cycle to be able to buy up or see your investment having some mere profits
In the crypto world, it is undeniable that it is associated with some who appear quite well for the development of sports prices in the market and also the development of crypto in general. However, it is indeed steely compared, some positive or negative things are still often found if we win, yes of course, because that is just an effort to get much more optimal profits.
Profits is what we are all trying out to gain and thats the main reason why on why we are here into this market. Just that make yourself sure that you've been not that too optimistic because once you do able to encounter those conditions that you've seen the price hadnt pumped yet on which supposedly to be pumping up right now, then it will be bringing out that disappointment. Lost hope? People are just that too impatience when it comes into their investment career on which it turned out that they've been always that wanting that the market is always on the green side and not been considering about its volatility on which that needing up up for you to consider out these probabilities and dont make your mind to be closed because it could definitely happen.
in investment we expect profit because this is the purpose of investment, but we must be able to accept the reality of the fluctuating crypto market. I agree with you we must be patient when the crypto market experiences a correction and we must wait. because being too optimistic without being based on analysis is also not a good thing.
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However, you will actually not blame him because he has no long term vision of hodling Bitcoin
We still have till the rest of 2025, though.
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Are you sure that 2025 will increase the price of Bitcoin again, which will at least increase by 100%?
For example, now the price of Bitcoin is 81,000 dollars and then increases to 162,000 dollars.
What factors can make you sure that 2025 will increase? But now Bitcoin is still struggling at a price of 85,100 dollars.
My friend in the community has known Bitcoin for dozens of years, where my friend must have a lot of experience and knowledge about Bitcoin. 2013 was not a short time and maybe my friend also has a statement like losing hope must have another meaning that I and you don't know yet.
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Best results arent guaranteed even lets say that you have bought with those big caps or top coins or projects in the market but still it will be relevant that you do need to be wise on when you should get in, because if you bought up into the peak then you do need up to wait even more or another cycle to be able to buy up or see your investment having some mere profits
In the crypto world, it is undeniable that it is associated with some who appear quite well for the development of sports prices in the market and also the development of crypto in general. However, it is indeed steely compared, some positive or negative things are still often found if we win, yes of course, because that is just an effort to get much more optimal profits.
Profits is what we are all trying out to gain and thats the main reason why on why we are here into this market. Just that make yourself sure that you've been not that too optimistic because once you do able to encounter those conditions that you've seen the price hadnt pumped yet on which supposedly to be pumping up right now, then it will be bringing out that disappointment. Lost hope? People are just that too impatience when it comes into their investment career on which it turned out that they've been always that wanting that the market is always on the green side and not been considering about its volatility on which that needing up up for you to consider out these probabilities and dont make your mind to be closed because it could definitely happen.
in investment we expect profit because this is the purpose of investment, but we must be able to accept the reality of the fluctuating crypto market. I agree with you we must be patient when the crypto market experiences a correction and we must wait. because being too optimistic without being based on analysis is also not a good thing.
There is always a risk involved in investing and the cryptocurrencies marketplace is no different. However, one should remember that price changes are not always very predictable and certain level of unpredictability should be expected. The time that has come for action should be distinguished from the time when it is better to stay passive. This is because whenever a decision is made in this way, one may be operating with the heart or out of hope instead of taking time and going through the plan that has been planned beforehand. It is rather more desirable to aim at decisions that are long-term oriented and calculated as a result of mature research. During that period what is required is patience and to stand with the decisions that have been taken irrespective of a bear run.
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- It seems like the only logic is that if they didn't gain anything or get profit from cryptocurrency, that's what they would say most of the time. But in the communities that cryptocurrency helps them most of the time, they certainly can't say that.
It means that their hope is based on bitcoin or cryptocurrency because they got profit in cryptocurrency via trading activity for sure and that's because they know or the strategy they had used was right and effective so that's it.
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Are you sure that 2025 will increase the price of Bitcoin again, which will at least increase by 100%?
For example, now the price of Bitcoin is 81,000 dollars and then increases to 162,000 dollars.
It is just a prediction, there is no one who really knows the price of Bitcoin in the next few months. Today Bitcoin price is around $93k - $94k, it can be above $100k again in the next few months but it also has a chance to drop again below $80k. There is nothing certain, we can only predict it.
What factors can make you sure that 2025 will increase? But now Bitcoin is still struggling at a price of 85,100 dollars.
There are too many factors that can trigger the Bitcoin to increase or decline. One of the factors is about the issue/news, it has a bit role to determine the price of Bitcoin recently. Anyway, Bitcoin is no longer struggling around $85k, it is already above $90k today. The highest price of Bitcoin is $94,535 today.
My friend in the community has known Bitcoin for dozens of years, where my friend must have a lot of experience and knowledge about Bitcoin. 2013 was not a short time and maybe my friend also has a statement like losing hope must have another meaning that I and you don't know yet.
Even people who have already involved in Bitcoin investment for many years, they still can't make a very accurate prediction. They only can make the same prediction as other people. However, they must have better considerations because they have a lot of experience and good knowledge.
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It is just a prediction, there is no one who really knows the price of Bitcoin in the next few months. Today Bitcoin price is around $93k - $94k, it can be above $100k again in the next few months but it also has a chance to drop again below $80k. There is nothing certain, we can only predict it.
There are too many factors that can trigger the Bitcoin to increase or decline. One of the factors is about the issue/news, it has a bit role to determine the price of Bitcoin recently. Anyway, Bitcoin is no longer struggling around $85k, it is already above $90k today. The highest price of Bitcoin is $94,535 today.
Even people who have already involved in Bitcoin investment for many years, they still can't make a very accurate prediction. They only can make the same prediction as other people. However, they must have better considerations because they have a lot of experience and good knowledge.
Well, ain't that the truth! Crystal balls are out of stock these days, so everything's just a guesstimate. Too much doom and gloom, and folks get the jitters. Too much sunshine and rainbows, and BAM! FOMO hits you like a ton of bricks.
Right now, though, let's soak in this sweet BTC bounce back above 90K dollars! Heck, we might even flirt with 100K or a brand new ATH. Gotta keep a weather eye out, sure, but history's whispering that we've got another leg up in this crypto rodeo in the back half of 2025. This cowboy's choosing to keep the faith and hold tight to the target!
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He should just invest and hodl then.
No nerves, only happy time doing so.
Yes invest and hold for long term is good for people who have positive cash flow in their life to protect their money with bitcoin, unfortunately there are not many people have same condition in their life.based on my experience people need passive income in crypto first, if they can not trading profit consistent in bear or bull market condition. They must understand about the DeFi protocol to utilize their asset crypto into it, it will help for many people to get passive income in crypto. I think it is easy and good strategy be compared with other. So people does not blame of crypto because of the price going down.
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He should just invest and hodl then.
No nerves, only happy time doing so.
Yes invest and hold for long term is good for people who have positive cash flow in their life to protect their money with bitcoin, unfortunately there are not many people have same condition in their life.based on my experience people need passive income in crypto first, if they can not trading profit consistent in bear or bull market condition. They must understand about the DeFi protocol to utilize their asset crypto into it, it will help for many people to get passive income in crypto. I think it is easy and good strategy be compared with other. So people does not blame of crypto because of the price going down.
You have presented thinking that I affirm as realistic to place the interests of the majority in the society as the main priorities. Stock trading is doesn’t have luxury of purchasing an asset for many years without any guarantee of its result. This is because it is more realistic to do this by concentrating on passive income sources from passive DeFi protocols. This provides more a Chance for more people to advance in the crypto space but still remain useful, despite high volatility of the assets.
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He should just invest and hodl then.
No nerves, only happy time doing so.
Yes invest and hold for long term is good for people who have positive cash flow in their life to protect their money with bitcoin, unfortunately there are not many people have same condition in their life.based on my experience people need passive income in crypto first, if they can not trading profit consistent in bear or bull market condition. They must understand about the DeFi protocol to utilize their asset crypto into it, it will help for many people to get passive income in crypto. I think it is easy and good strategy be compared with other. So people does not blame of crypto because of the price going down.
You have presented thinking that I affirm as realistic to place the interests of the majority in the society as the main priorities. Stock trading is doesn’t have luxury of purchasing an asset for many years without any guarantee of its result. This is because it is more realistic to do this by concentrating on passive income sources from passive DeFi protocols. This provides more a Chance for more people to advance in the crypto space but still remain useful, despite high volatility of the assets.
I agree with you Sir, bitcoin and crypto bassicly stock 2.0 in DeFi sector it is generator revenue more better than stock market, crypto is cheaper in fee, high in result and we are free we have full of control for our money and our portofolio Investment be compared with stock market.
Although i have small amount of stock market in my portofolio Investment but it is just for fun 😄 and number of them less than 10% of total my portofolio. Because bitcoin and crypto has changed my life.
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I agree with you Sir, bitcoin and crypto bassicly stock 2.0 in DeFi sector it is generator revenue more better than stock market, crypto is cheaper in fee, high in result and we are free we have full of control for our money and our portofolio Investment be compared with stock market.
Although i have small amount of stock market in my portofolio Investment but it is just for fun 😄 and number of them less than 10% of total my portofolio. Because bitcoin and crypto has changed my life.
Yeap. Cryptocurrency was invented to provide such facilities with cheaper fees and easy access, as well as freedom. That is why cryptocurrency is called more modern and convenient than our conventional financial system. And since the achievement is used as currency trading, we also get sufficient benefits here in terms of trading, which we would never get in terms of stock market trading.
However, at the same time, we must also remember that the probability of failure is much higher in the crypto space than in the stock market, so we must be very careful when investing here.
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Don't lose hope in crypto just yet . Despite some setback, the industry is still evolving and growing. Cryptocurrency market can be unpredictable, and price may fluctuate rapidly to point you can no longer bear it, but taking a long view and managing expectations will help shaped your perspective. Always remember the crypto industry is evolving, and their are opportunities for growth and innovation.
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I agree with you Sir, bitcoin and crypto bassicly stock 2.0 in DeFi sector it is generator revenue more better than stock market, crypto is cheaper in fee, high in result and we are free we have full of control for our money and our portofolio Investment be compared with stock market.
Although i have small amount of stock market in my portofolio Investment but it is just for fun 😄 and number of them less than 10% of total my portofolio. Because bitcoin and crypto has changed my life.
Yeap. Cryptocurrency was invented to provide such facilities with cheaper fees and easy access, as well as freedom. That is why cryptocurrency is called more modern and convenient than our conventional financial system. And since the achievement is used as currency trading, we also get sufficient benefits here in terms of trading, which we would never get in terms of stock market trading.
However, at the same time, we must also remember that the probability of failure is much higher in the crypto space than in the stock market, so we must be very careful when investing here.
- Exactly, if I compare it to stocks, cryptocurrency is still better, although I have other reits of stocks that I have allocated for investment as well, and I receive monthly dividend shares, although what I receive is not that big but at least I have an investment here.
That's why I see that it is still faster than cryptocurrency although we can also liquidate quickly if we have one wrong move. It's just that simple to see.
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Don't lose hope in crypto just yet . Despite some setback, the industry is still evolving and growing. Cryptocurrency market can be unpredictable, and price may fluctuate rapidly to point you can no longer bear it, but taking a long view and managing expectations will help shaped your perspective. Always remember the crypto industry is evolving, and their are opportunities for growth and innovation.
Actually when somebody did not loss hope in the time when cryptocurrency was looking strange to everyone, is not now that we have seen everything that somebody will start losing hope, this is even the time of strong belief in cryptocurrency because is very promising and is good thing that we are beginning to welcome the Bitcoin price again after long time of price troubling, so anybody who is losing hope has their reason why they're doing it because Bitcoin has not giving us reason to loss hope or interest towards it, I even notice more investment going into it.
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Don't lose hope in crypto just yet . Despite some setback, the industry is still evolving and growing. Cryptocurrency market can be unpredictable, and price may fluctuate rapidly to point you can no longer bear it, but taking a long view and managing expectations will help shaped your perspective. Always remember the crypto industry is evolving, and their are opportunities for growth and innovation.
Start exploring new projects and learn from your mistakes then increase your research and practice. As the days turn into weeks Sarah portfolio begins to recover. Start seeing market volatility as an opportunity rather than a threat and buy your favorite coins. So don't give up take a step back, reevaluate your strategy and remind yourself why you started investing in crypto in the first place. Move forward and never lose sight of your goals. The crypto market can be unpredictable but with determination and resilience you can weather its ups and downs. We never want to stand still so to make a profit in crypto so you need to have a lot of experience.
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I agree with you Sir, bitcoin and crypto bassicly stock 2.0 in DeFi sector it is generator revenue more better than stock market, crypto is cheaper in fee, high in result and we are free we have full of control for our money and our portofolio Investment be compared with stock market.
Although i have small amount of stock market in my portofolio Investment but it is just for fun 😄 and number of them less than 10% of total my portofolio. Because bitcoin and crypto has changed my life.
Yeap. Cryptocurrency was invented to provide such facilities with cheaper fees and easy access, as well as freedom. That is why cryptocurrency is called more modern and convenient than our conventional financial system. And since the achievement is used as currency trading, we also get sufficient benefits here in terms of trading, which we would never get in terms of stock market trading.
However, at the same time, we must also remember that the probability of failure is much higher in the crypto space than in the stock market, so we must be very careful when investing here.
I agree with you Sir about we must be very careful when investing in crypto, and we are as member of forum know more about the risk of Investment into crypto.
But unfortunately there are many people out there does not know anything about risk management when making Investment in crypto, they don't know about how to analysis fundamental about crypto. Many stock investor out there blame us that crypto does not have fundamental aspec 😄. They forget about their fiat money does not have fundamental aspec too.
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Start exploring new projects and learn from your mistakes then increase your research and practice. As the days turn into weeks Sarah portfolio begins to recover. Start seeing market volatility as an opportunity rather than a threat and buy your favorite coins. So don't give up take a step back, reevaluate your strategy and remind yourself why you started investing in crypto in the first place. Move forward and never lose sight of your goals. The crypto market can be unpredictable but with determination and resilience you can weather its ups and downs. We never want to stand still so to make a profit in crypto so you need to have a lot of experience.
This is really good way to sum up how to handle up and down world of crypto. And idea of checking out new projects and learning from mistakes is very important for getting better. Story about Sarah money recovering shows that market can bounce back and it is important not to make quick decisions when prices drop for short time.
Keep in mind that to take break and look at plan again which we made and think about why we started investing in crypto in first place can help when things get tough. You are right that we can not just stay still if we want to make money in crypto we always need to learn and get more experience.
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Honestly, I can understand his frustrations because the crypto industry has evolved so significantly. Many folks who got in early enjoyed enormous gains but now it feels like the magic is gone for many, It is true that from 2022 onward the market has been heavy and a lot of fresh ideas just appear to fall away. I think his dissatisfaction is valid because when you put years of work into something and it stops giving back it may truly hurt. At the same time I feel that crypto is still evolving only in a slower and different way presently, maybe it is not about immediate profits anymore but about meaningful use cases and long term building
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I agree with you Sir about we must be very careful when investing in crypto, and we are as member of forum know more about the risk of Investment into crypto.
But unfortunately there are many people out there does not know anything about risk management when making Investment in crypto, they don't know about how to analysis fundamental about crypto. Many stock investor out there blame us that crypto does not have fundamental aspec 😄. They forget about their fiat money does not have fundamental aspec too.
We have seen several volatility phases which make investing into cryptocurrencies quite unpredictable and therefore, those who invest must be willing to manage and embrace a lot of risks. Surprisingly, many of these people still believe that crypto does not have any foundation at all, what they forget is that the paper currency in their wallets also have no intrinsic value other than the confidence. This is due to lack of adequate insight by some of the people involved in the process. For us, this difference in understanding is more encouragement for creating even more extensive coverage of analyses of the constantly expanding environment of digital assets.
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I agree with you Sir about we must be very careful when investing in crypto, and we are as member of forum know more about the risk of Investment into crypto.
But unfortunately there are many people out there does not know anything about risk management when making Investment in crypto, they don't know about how to analysis fundamental about crypto. Many stock investor out there blame us that crypto does not have fundamental aspec 😄. They forget about their fiat money does not have fundamental aspec too.
What you will say then, even if we were in this forum for a long time I saw those people also doing the mistakes while they were taking risk in their trading investing I know some people from our local community these are just lost up more than thousands of dollar in the airdrop hype even I am also in loss because of the altcoin investment.
I telling these story because of only to show that crypto is that much risky where even the experience peoples were also face losses because of the wrong take. Then there will be more mistakes from the newbies it is also normal.
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I agree with you Sir about we must be very careful when investing in crypto, and we are as member of forum know more about the risk of Investment into crypto.
But unfortunately there are many people out there does not know anything about risk management when making Investment in crypto, they don't know about how to analysis fundamental about crypto. Many stock investor out there blame us that crypto does not have fundamental aspec 😄. They forget about their fiat money does not have fundamental aspec too.
What you will say then, even if we were in this forum for a long time I saw those people also doing the mistakes while they were taking risk in their trading investing I know some people from our local community these are just lost up more than thousands of dollar in the airdrop hype even I am also in loss because of the altcoin investment.
I telling these story because of only to show that crypto is that much risky where even the experience peoples were also face losses because of the wrong take. Then there will be more mistakes from the newbies it is also normal.
You're absolutely right crypto is a high risk space where even seasoned traders can face significant losses due to missteps or market volatility. Your experience with altcoin losses and the stories from your local community about airdrop hype costing thousands highlight this reality. Newbies, with less experience, are even more likely to make mistakes, which is common in such a speculative market. To navigate this, it’s crucial to prioritize research, set clear risk limits, and avoid FOMO driven decisions. Sharing these stories helps underscore the importance of caution and strategy in crypto trading.
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-I see that in 2025 I have given up, I no longer want to be involved in cryptocurrency for many reasons, including the price of cryptocurrency not being like 2013 to 2021.
-He also said that from 2022 until now the cryptocurrency market is saturated and cannot be relied on to take advantage of trading.
-He also said "Just look now, Bitcoin seems reluctant to go up again and many altcoins have dropped in price so sharply".
BTW, did your friend not read the latest news when he said that.. even when you made this topic at the end of February 2025, there the BTC bullish moment was still very strong... the latest BTC ATH was just recorded and it became a positive trend for cryptocurrency to make a profit...
Why is what he said not in accordance with the facts??? Is he only looking at it from the perspective of his favorite altcoin? So when in 2022 we see altcoins going crazy, he tries to repeat that time and unfortunately it hasn't happened again until now... even though several altcoin peaks that occurred throughout 2022, are still below the peaks that occurred in early 2025... while 2025 is not over yet... is his hope that thin to continue his career in the cryptocurrency world?
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You're absolutely right crypto is a high risk space where even seasoned traders can face significant losses due to missteps or market volatility. Your experience with altcoin losses and the stories from your local community about airdrop hype costing thousands highlight this reality. Newbies, with less experience, are even more likely to make mistakes, which is common in such a speculative market. To navigate this, it’s crucial to prioritize research, set clear risk limits, and avoid FOMO-driven decisions. Sharing these stories helps underscore the importance of caution and strategy in crypto trading.
The main thing is that to be successful in this market, we first need to know the nature of the market. For example, in my terminology, the nature of the crypto market is to create new markets that are always changing.
Where there is a lot of psychological games, you will see many professional traders who have been trading for a long time also lose in the psychological games of this market and sometimes suffer losses.Therefore, we must always be aware of the market and constantly try to understand the psychological games of the market in a new way.
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You're absolutely right crypto is a high risk space where even seasoned traders can face significant losses due to missteps or market volatility. Your experience with altcoin losses and the stories from your local community about airdrop hype costing thousands highlight this reality. Newbies, with less experience, are even more likely to make mistakes, which is common in such a speculative market. To navigate this, it’s crucial to prioritize research, set clear risk limits, and avoid FOMO-driven decisions. Sharing these stories helps underscore the importance of caution and strategy in crypto trading.
The main thing is that to be successful in this market, we first need to know the nature of the market. For example, in my terminology, the nature of the crypto market is to create new markets that are always changing.
Where there is a lot of psychological games, you will see many professional traders who have been trading for a long time also lose in the psychological games of this market and sometimes suffer losses.Therefore, we must always be aware of the market and constantly try to understand the psychological games of the market in a new way.
We must have extensive knowledge, not only on matters directly related to the market, but also on the news side that contains positive and negative news that can greatly affect the market.
Not only that, because there are many factors including ourselves. Wanting to learn is the main thing of course, besides that we must also have a good mentality that will only be obtained along with our experience.
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Every time the prices of cryptocurrencies stagnate, people are always going to feel like its not going up forever. No wonder the prices dips further more and then panics for the rest of the holders.
I can say things have changed since the 2018 bear market. Even in 2021 the market is not so alive but there are still altcoins that reaches its heights. This 2024 only BTC and a handful of altcoins are rising. Its like everyone is only interested in BTC.
There is always FOMO, unfortunately, many people don't released that this bullish momentum don't last for ever. Some people buy Bitcoin on the resistance price level which is absolutely the act of inexperienced traders/investors on the crypto market.
There are few altcoins that followed the Bitcoin trends in 2024, though some of them are built on the Bitcoin protocol eg Litecoin, Pepe. There are also other tokens that moved along side Bitcoin trends, these tokens might have been driven by demands and other factors like platform upgrades, news etc.
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You're absolutely right crypto is a high risk space where even seasoned traders can face significant losses due to missteps or market volatility. Your experience with altcoin losses and the stories from your local community about airdrop hype costing thousands highlight this reality. Newbies, with less experience, are even more likely to make mistakes, which is common in such a speculative market. To navigate this, it’s crucial to prioritize research, set clear risk limits, and avoid FOMO-driven decisions. Sharing these stories helps underscore the importance of caution and strategy in crypto trading.
The main thing is that to be successful in this market, we first need to know the nature of the market. For example, in my terminology, the nature of the crypto market is to create new markets that are always changing.
Where there is a lot of psychological games, you will see many professional traders who have been trading for a long time also lose in the psychological games of this market and sometimes suffer losses.Therefore, we must always be aware of the market and constantly try to understand the psychological games of the market in a new way.
Actually what the market really requires is experience to make trading decisions and adopt to the market dynamics probably with flexible strategies.
I don't think the crypto market has anything to do with psychological games, but rather, there is investors or market sentiments that pushes the price on a side ways movements at certain intervals.
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You're absolutely right crypto is a high risk space where even seasoned traders can face significant losses due to missteps or market volatility. Your experience with altcoin losses and the stories from your local community about airdrop hype costing thousands highlight this reality. Newbies, with less experience, are even more likely to make mistakes, which is common in such a speculative market. To navigate this, it’s crucial to prioritize research, set clear risk limits, and avoid FOMO-driven decisions. Sharing these stories helps underscore the importance of caution and strategy in crypto trading.
The main thing is that to be successful in this market, we first need to know the nature of the market. For example, in my terminology, the nature of the crypto market is to create new markets that are always changing.
Where there is a lot of psychological games, you will see many professional traders who have been trading for a long time also lose in the psychological games of this market and sometimes suffer losses.Therefore, we must always be aware of the market and constantly try to understand the psychological games of the market in a new way.
Your statement captures a critical aspect of the crypto market its dynamic and psychologically driven nature. The constant evolution of new markets within the crypto space indeed sets it apart, requiring traders to adapt continuously. The emphasis on psychological games is spot on emotions like fear and greed, often drive market movements, sometimes overriding even the most seasoned traders strategies. Staying vigilant and approaching the market with a fresh perspective to decode these psychological undercurrents is essential for success. However, it might also be worth noting that alongside psychological awareness, a robust risk management strategy and technical analysis can help mitigate losses when these psychological traps inevitably arise.