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Title: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Agbe on April 07, 2025, 02:44:32 PM
As the question asked it all. It is self explanatory. Many people are saying that we are already in the bear market and today being 6th of April 2025, bitcoin price dropped to $74k and people are saying it is not the bear market yet. So I was like then when is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin? In 2022, it was very clear for everyone to see and understand that bitcoin was in the bear run from the Month of April, and from the Month of November 2022, things were started changing to good.

But in this season or era bitcoin will not drop down to $16k again so in what price do you think bitcoin has hit the bear market in this current epoch? $50k? $60k? $70k? What is your bear market price of bitcoin?
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Charles-Tim on April 07, 2025, 02:54:01 PM
But in this season or era bitcoin will not drop down to $16k again so in what price do you think bitcoin has hit the bear market in this current epoch? $50k? $60k? $70k? What is your bear market price of bitcoin?
Probably between $30000 but we can not speculate on this yet unless we have known the all-time high already. We do not know the all-time high yet. It is very possible that after the tariffs issue caused by Trump, bitcoin may begin to increase. Bit I guess it can not be more than June and it may last till towards the end of 2025.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Agbe on April 07, 2025, 03:05:10 PM
From your figure, that is any amount above the $30,000 is no more bear run again but it is Bull Run. Well that price as bear market is not too bad as well but I don't think the price will still drop down to that figure again and if the amount or the price will not hit the $30k then bitcoin is on the bull run throughout the year. Let's see other people opinion on their views of the bear market of Bitcoin.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on April 07, 2025, 04:08:16 PM
As the question asked it all. It is self explanatory. Many people are saying that we are already in the bear market and today being 6th of April 2025, bitcoin price dropped to $74k and people are saying it is not the bear market yet. So I was like then when is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin? In 2022, it was very clear for everyone to see and understand that bitcoin was in the bear run from the Month of April, and from the Month of November 2022, things were started changing to good.

But in this season or era bitcoin will not drop down to $16k again so in what price do you think bitcoin has hit the bear market in this current epoch? $50k? $60k? $70k? What is your bear market price of bitcoin?

      -     Why did you miss the bear market? I think you made a big profit, right? You know that no one knows when the bear market season will start. Because the market is unpredictable. Then the majority of the crypto community has not really started the real bull run and it has not ended yet.

And this is also what I believe and I hope I am right in my belief. Because if it happens, we will still surpass what our loved one left behind for sure hehe..,
As long as we are still in the correction, that's all I can say as of the moment.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Stompix on April 07, 2025, 04:16:29 PM
So I was like then when is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?

A bear market starts when the said asset devalues by 20%.
So the moment Bitcoin crossed and stayed under ~86.5 the bear market started!

No matter how much some want to sugarcoat this, say things like correction, draw random lines on some TA, it doesn't change standard definitions.
Once you're down -20% you're in a bear market, once you are up 20% you're in a bull market, simple as that!

Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Agbe on April 07, 2025, 04:26:00 PM
So I was like then when is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?

A bear market starts when the said asset devalues by 20%.
So the moment Bitcoin crossed and stayed under ~86.5 the bear market started!

No matter how much some want to sugarcoat this, say things like correction, draw random lines on some TA, it doesn't change standard definitions.
Once you're down -20% you're in a bear market, once you are up 20% you're in a bull market, simple as that!
Plus+1 for you. Wow!! This is really a contribution to knowledge, though it is not yet proving and I have to make some research to see this analysis. And that means from your analysis bitcoin was on bear market now. That is nice 👍.  People that will visit this thread will learn new things from this your comment because many people don't know when is  the bear market starting and only knows the Bull Market whenever the price goes up.

Thanks for this.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: bayu7adi on April 07, 2025, 06:52:21 PM
A bear market starts when the said asset devalues by 20%.
So the moment Bitcoin crossed and stayed under ~86.5 the bear market started!

No matter how much some want to sugarcoat this, say things like correction, draw random lines on some TA, it doesn't change standard definitions.
Once you're down -20% you're in a bear market, once you are up 20% you're in a bull market, simple as that!
If the number is already known, which is 20%, then what about the time period? ...
For example, BTC's ATH was on January 20, 2025... and it was at the level of 109k... that's what you refer to so when the BTC market touches 86k it means it's weakening...
Why do we use the highest number? Not data based on time... even though if we take the price one month ago, namely March 7, 2025, the price was 89k... and now it's 77k...
That means since 30 days ago, BTC -13%, meaning it has not experienced a bear phase...
While since the previous ATH, BTC -29% means bearish ...


Actually, is the bear reference from time or from price?
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Stompix on April 07, 2025, 07:10:21 PM
Why do we use the highest number? Not data based on time... even though if we take the price one month ago, namely March 7, 2025, the price was 89k... and now it's 77k...
That means since 30 days ago, BTC -13%, meaning it has not experienced a bear phase...
While since the previous ATH, BTC -29% means bearish ...


Actually, is the bear reference from time or from price?

Because you would end with a situation when an asset that has been quoted at $10 in January and is priced at 1 cent right now wouldn't be in a bear market because of arbitrarily timestamps, simple as that!
Following your own example if Bitcoin would be depreciating 19% every 30 days it would reach 2$ and you still wouldn't be in a bear market!
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Tribalchief on April 07, 2025, 07:51:28 PM
But in this season or era bitcoin will not drop down to $16k again so in what price do you think bitcoin has hit the bear market in this current epoch? $50k? $60k? $70k? What is your bear market price of bitcoin?

At this point, it doesn't look like we are experiencing a bearish run or we are fully in a bearish season, but of course, we are experiencing a bearish move that might reverse to a short bullish move at anytime. The market has not really been stable as the tariff keeps weakening Bitcoin price. We saw $88K last week, $74K in last than 24hrs, and $78K at the time of writing. I think that already tells us enough.

So, I will start considering the bearish run/season from $40K mark.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: bhadz on April 07, 2025, 08:08:20 PM
As the question asked it all. It is self explanatory. Many people are saying that we are already in the bear market and today being 6th of April 2025, bitcoin price dropped to $74k and people are saying it is not the bear market yet. So I was like then when is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin? In 2022, it was very clear for everyone to see and understand that bitcoin was in the bear run from the Month of April, and from the Month of November 2022, things were started changing to good.

But in this season or era bitcoin will not drop down to $16k again so in what price do you think bitcoin has hit the bear market in this current epoch? $50k? $60k? $70k? What is your bear market price of bitcoin?
I think $40k-$50k could be the price indication for us to say that we're in the bear market. But this year is still long for anticipate the bear market. If ever we go back to the bear market soon, I'm sure that everyone who's missed this bull run is going to buy as much as they can and will save a lot for the next bull run.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: hugeblack on April 07, 2025, 08:09:47 PM

When the price falls below $60,000, the previous ATH levels, it usually signals a cycle bottom.
Let's keep in mind that the $70,000 level is still good, but it will be difficult to see levels above $150,000 if the correction continues.
A breakdown below $60,000 indicates that we may not see $100,000 anytime soon.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: target on April 07, 2025, 08:44:34 PM
The bear market will be denied over and over until the person already sold his coins for less than the price he bought them.

But yep I think we are already in the bear market yet when people talked about the changes of this crypto cycle, we believed also there is no bear market anymore but here we are. The price will make us see what is coming now, $74k is not the bottom.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Mia Chloe on April 07, 2025, 10:05:29 PM
As the question asked it all. It is self explanatory. Many people are saying that we are already in the bear market and today being 6th of April 2025, bitcoin price dropped to $74k and people are saying it is not the bear market yet.
It's simple everyone has their speculation. But in my opinion I believe we are in the bear market and any dump far below this aren't gonna be funny at all. Different people have their speculations where this current dump will stop before we resume price progression to the upside.

Last night when I checked the chart and saw so many reds to the downside first thing that came to my mind was we will experience a rejection at $75k and that's what happened.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: tequilla_sunset on April 08, 2025, 10:54:19 AM
The bear market will be denied over and over until the person already sold his coins for less than the price he bought them.

But yep I think we are already in the bear market yet when people talked about the changes of this crypto cycle, we believed also there is no bear market anymore but here we are. The price will make us see what is coming now, $74k is not the bottom.

I don't think we are here yet, it's more like a Bull trap for me.

Rock bottom is close, and then - there should be a rebounce.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on April 08, 2025, 03:56:56 PM
As the question asked it all. It is self explanatory. Many people are saying that we are already in the bear market and today being 6th of April 2025, bitcoin price dropped to $74k and people are saying it is not the bear market yet. So I was like then when is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin? In 2022, it was very clear for everyone to see and understand that bitcoin was in the bear run from the Month of April, and from the Month of November 2022, things were started changing to good.

But in this season or era bitcoin will not drop down to $16k again so in what price do you think bitcoin has hit the bear market in this current epoch? $50k? $60k? $70k? What is your bear market price of bitcoin?
An interesting question actually, I think that in this current era of bitcoin that we are in, it's hard to tell or say for sure when we have entered a full blown bear season, I even doubt if we will ever again see a full blown bear season where everyone know that we are in a bear season like it used to be with all other previous seasons, I feel that a lot of things have changed for Bitcoin with its adoption by the US president, narrative have shifted and things may likely never be like the used to be before..

For me, I wouldn't want to say that I have a particular price which the price of bitcoin will get to before I believe we have entered a bear season, this is because bitcoin can drop -10% today and then rise +20% in the coming weeks, this is the type of season we currently are in, and its hard to tell when exactly we have entered a bear season.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Agbe on April 08, 2025, 04:44:26 PM
As the question asked it all. It is self explanatory. Many people are saying that we are already in the bear market and today being 6th of April 2025, bitcoin price dropped to $74k and people are saying it is not the bear market yet. So I was like then when is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin? In 2022, it was very clear for everyone to see and understand that bitcoin was in the bear run from the Month of April, and from the Month of November 2022, things were started changing to good.

But in this season or era bitcoin will not drop down to $16k again so in what price do you think bitcoin has hit the bear market in this current epoch? $50k? $60k? $70k? What is your bear market price of bitcoin?
An interesting question actually, I think that in this current era of bitcoin that we are in, it's hard to tell or say for sure when we have entered a full blown bear season, I even doubt if we will ever again see a full blown bear season where everyone know that we are in a bear season like it used to be with all other previous seasons, I feel that a lot of things have changed for Bitcoin with its adoption by the US president, narrative have shifted and things may likely never be like the used to be before..

For me, I wouldn't want to say that I have a particular price which the price of bitcoin will get to before I believe we have entered a bear season, this is because bitcoin can drop -10% today and then rise +20% in the coming weeks, this is the type of season we currently are in, and its hard to tell when exactly we have entered a bear season.
Yes to speculate the exact bear market is hard but one thing I also noticed is that the bear market is for some at that time and in that particular time it is also a bull market to other set of people. Because as you said when the everyone knows that 2022 was a full time bear market and those who invested in that year will take this present price as a bull market while those who invested last year (2024) will take this present price movement as a bear market and that should be as an individual analysis of the market. But in general I don't think we have entered a bear market the previous All Time High was $109k, and from that figure it has to decrease to 54.5% before it will start another bear market again. And the the 54.5% should be $54,500 and this is the bear market price therefore bitcoin has not started bear market and we are still in the bull market.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 08, 2025, 05:11:23 PM
As the question asked it all. It is self explanatory. Many people are saying that we are already in the bear market and today being 6th of April 2025, bitcoin price dropped to $74k and people are saying it is not the bear market yet. So I was like then when is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin? In 2022, it was very clear for everyone to see and understand that bitcoin was in the bear run from the Month of April, and from the Month of November 2022, things were started changing to good.

But in this season or era bitcoin will not drop down to $16k again so in what price do you think bitcoin has hit the bear market in this current epoch? $50k? $60k? $70k? What is your bear market price of bitcoin?
This year, I think $70,000 would be the deepest dip and the new all time high will happen anywhere from the last quarter of the year because for me 2026 would be the year of bear market. Though this is just my opinion so this is not guaranteed accurate.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Agbe on April 08, 2025, 05:18:50 PM
As the question asked it all. It is self explanatory. Many people are saying that we are already in the bear market and today being 6th of April 2025, bitcoin price dropped to $74k and people are saying it is not the bear market yet. So I was like then when is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin? In 2022, it was very clear for everyone to see and understand that bitcoin was in the bear run from the Month of April, and from the Month of November 2022, things were started changing to good.

But in this season or era bitcoin will not drop down to $16k again so in what price do you think bitcoin has hit the bear market in this current epoch? $50k? $60k? $70k? What is your bear market price of bitcoin?
This year, I think $70,000 would be the deepest dip and the new all time high will happen anywhere from the last quarter of the year because for me 2026 would be the year of bear market. Though this is just my opinion so this is not guaranteed accurate.
if we go by the previous performance of the market, this year should be the dippest bear market year and from next year 2026 the market will come up gradually and in 2027, the market will increase price more than the year 2026 and in 2028 we face halving and before or after the halving, mostly after the halving we enter into the new all time high again. This is how the market has been moving for years but seeing like things are about to change. And if really things change then time is coming that the market will hit very low figure and it will make investors and traders to be afraid.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: KryptoBull on April 08, 2025, 06:21:34 PM
As the question asked it all. It is self explanatory. Many people are saying that we are already in the bear market and today being 6th of April 2025, bitcoin price dropped to $74k and people are saying it is not the bear market yet. So I was like then when is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin? In 2022, it was very clear for everyone to see and understand that bitcoin was in the bear run from the Month of April, and from the Month of November 2022, things were started changing to good.

But in this season or era bitcoin will not drop down to $16k again so in what price do you think bitcoin has hit the bear market in this current epoch? $50k? $60k? $70k? What is your bear market price of bitcoin?
I don't have any specific thoughts on this, because I don't think we're entering a downtrend just yet. Even though the BTC price has dropped to 74K USD, it's still in a pretty high range and the uptrend is still holding up quite well.

Looking back at May 2021, when the BTC price fell from 64K to 30K USD, a lot of people panicked and sold off, but right after that the BTC price recovered and created a new ATH at 70K USD in November. We might be in a similar situation: even if BTC drops to 50K USD, the chance of a new ATH for the BTC price this season is still intact.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: taufik123 on April 08, 2025, 10:55:13 PM
$70k-$60k may still make sense if there is still a decline occurring due to some effects of global economic instability.
But if it were to hit $50k or below it would be a pretty crazy decline, as the Support at $70k is still strong enough to withstand this unfavorable market situation.

I don't want to speculate more about the decline, but the upside will also occur after this bearish market state ends.
Those who continue to buy gradually and stick with it will make more profits
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Bobcrypto on April 09, 2025, 02:57:07 PM
But in this season or era bitcoin will not drop down to $16k again so in what price do you think bitcoin has hit the bear market in this current epoch? $50k? $60k? $70k? What is your bear market price of bitcoin?
Probably between $30000 but we can not speculate on this yet unless we have known the all-time high already. We do not know the all-time high yet. It is very possible that after the tariffs issue caused by Trump, bitcoin may begin to increase. Bit I guess it can not be more than June and it may last till towards the end of 2025.

Whether we speculate Bitcoin price at certain price level or not, there will always be bear run, though there are indexes that are used to confirm a bear market situation. However, crypto bear run take some time confirmation because of its volitile nature.
Now, crypto bear run simply refered to a situation where supply is largely greater than demands, very low market confidence, continuous prices fall; or can be referred to a more than 30% price fall from the recent all time high. This downturn is as a result of certain factors like, economic tariff war, regulatory news, macroeconomic events and changes in market sentiments etc.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: tequilla_sunset on April 09, 2025, 03:12:13 PM
$70k-$60k may still make sense if there is still a decline occurring due to some effects of global economic instability.
But if it were to hit $50k or below it would be a pretty crazy decline, as the Support at $70k is still strong enough to withstand this unfavorable market situation.

I don't want to speculate more about the decline, but the upside will also occur after this bearish market state ends.
Those who continue to buy gradually and stick with it will make more profits

The confidence will come after the fear will be gone.

We don't know when it will happen, but eventually, tariffs will be regulated enough for the investors to return to their usual business.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: doc on April 09, 2025, 04:05:32 PM
The bear market will be denied over and over until the person already sold his coins for less than the price he bought them.

But yep I think we are already in the bear market yet when people talked about the changes of this crypto cycle, we believed also there is no bear market anymore but here we are. The price will make us see what is coming now, $74k is not the bottom.
When the market is sluggish, we should not [panic and be patient, keep holding and waiting for the market to improve again. because many people who have large capital will buy coins at their lowest point and then hold them until the market goes up again. A strategy that is often used by many investors. And for those who have long invested in crypto understand this.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: gunhell16 on April 09, 2025, 04:18:18 PM
As the question asked it all. It is self explanatory. Many people are saying that we are already in the bear market and today being 6th of April 2025, bitcoin price dropped to $74k and people are saying it is not the bear market yet. So I was like then when is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin? In 2022, it was very clear for everyone to see and understand that bitcoin was in the bear run from the Month of April, and from the Month of November 2022, things were started changing to good.

But in this season or era bitcoin will not drop down to $16k again so in what price do you think bitcoin has hit the bear market in this current epoch? $50k? $60k? $70k? What is your bear market price of bitcoin?
An interesting question actually, I think that in this current era of bitcoin that we are in, it's hard to tell or say for sure when we have entered a full blown bear season, I even doubt if we will ever again see a full blown bear season where everyone know that we are in a bear season like it used to be with all other previous seasons, I feel that a lot of things have changed for Bitcoin with its adoption by the US president, narrative have shifted and things may likely never be like the used to be before..

For me, I wouldn't want to say that I have a particular price which the price of bitcoin will get to before I believe we have entered a bear season, this is because bitcoin can drop -10% today and then rise +20% in the coming weeks, this is the type of season we currently are in, and its hard to tell when exactly we have entered a bear season.
Yes to speculate the exact bear market is hard but one thing I also noticed is that the bear market is for some at that time and in that particular time it is also a bull market to other set of people. Because as you said when the everyone knows that 2022 was a full time bear market and those who invested in that year will take this present price as a bull market while those who invested last year (2024) will take this present price movement as a bear market and that should be as an individual analysis of the market. But in general I don't think we have entered a bear market the previous All Time High was $109k, and from that figure it has to decrease to 54.5% before it will start another bear market again. And the the 54.5% should be $54,500 and this is the bear market price therefore bitcoin has not started bear market and we are still in the bull market.

We are still far from the bear market, I think in my opinion the bear market will enter next year until the 2nd quarter of 2026. This is based on my personal assessment made if the analysis was last year. So this opportunity that we have now is still a good chance for those who believe in bitcoin and are saving it.

In fact, even though we are still in a correction right now, we still remain bullish in reality. That is the truth of the matter where we are currently.
If there is anyone who benefits more from the retracement now, it is the scalpers.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 09, 2025, 04:32:03 PM
I cant make it a conclusion yet over the recent bear we had since the beginning of this week that we already have been on the the bear market completely, we still have to be more careful from how we set track on the market, because before you know it, the market would have gone far beyond your expectations just as we already have the bear, things might change up and the whole table turned around that the market turns bullish and nonstop till we make a all time high, we don't know when this may be, but hopefully withing the year.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Crwth on April 09, 2025, 04:37:03 PM
Maybe it’s closed, then we will see everything, but we will know that we are still high above the pricing, and I hope it continues to rise. I hope it’s possible to recover and maybe go back to the $80,000 mark to have a good shorting position if we ever go back to the bear market.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Agbe on April 09, 2025, 05:17:58 PM
The confidence will come after the fear will be gone.

We don't know when it will happen, but eventually, tariffs will be regulated enough for the investors to return to their usual business.
Every knowledgeable investigator knows that the time will definitely come back again and to know the Bull Run is not difficult as the bear market. And the difficult part is the bear run. Nobody exactly knows the time and this thread was created to know the exact time and price of the bear run but here we come again, speculation full all ground. But from looks of things there are some speculations are good to understand the bear run and we can use them. Like the ones of 30%, and 40%. 50% is and indication to start the bear run and if that is the calculation of the bear then we are still far from the bear market.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: densus88 on April 09, 2025, 06:02:27 PM
I cant make it a conclusion yet over the recent bear we had since the beginning of this week that we already have been on the the bear market completely, we still have to be more careful from how we set track on the market, because before you know it, the market would have gone far beyond your expectations just as we already have the bear, things might change up and the whole table turned around that the market turns bullish and nonstop till we make a all time high, we don't know when this may be, but hopefully withing the year.
I also don't know the exact reason why the market is declining, because I think staying calm and waiting is the best way to do when the market is correcting.
The crypto market is difficult to predict, so I choose to hold and wait because the crypto market is likely to be green again and the price will go up.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: enwi on April 09, 2025, 06:04:31 PM
I cant make it a conclusion yet over the recent bear we had since the beginning of this week that we already have been on the the bear market completely, we still have to be more careful from how we set track on the market, because before you know it, the market would have gone far beyond your expectations just as we already have the bear, things might change up and the whole table turned around that the market turns bullish and nonstop till we make a all time high, we don't know when this may be, but hopefully withing the year.
It is a good decision and indicates the understanding that not every signal from a dollar is worth to be taken for granted. That is why many individuals become entrapped in short-term realised emotions and become confused when things start improving rapidly. The general understanding here though is that status of markets in any given period is not always clear from the beginning as/they are constituted. As much as things seem to be proceeding the way today, that may not always be the case later on. As for the argument that nobody is able to say it will change drastically at, I tend to concur. And given that the situation was still up in the air, it is quite understandable not to reach specific conclusions.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: milewilda on April 09, 2025, 11:42:22 PM
I cant make it a conclusion yet over the recent bear we had since the beginning of this week that we already have been on the the bear market completely, we still have to be more careful from how we set track on the market, because before you know it, the market would have gone far beyond your expectations just as we already have the bear, things might change up and the whole table turned around that the market turns bullish and nonstop till we make a all time high, we don't know when this may be, but hopefully withing the year.
I also don't know the exact reason why the market is declining, because I think staying calm and waiting is the best way to do when the market is correcting.
The crypto market is difficult to predict, so I choose to hold and wait because the crypto market is likely to be green again and the price will go up.
Market could only be just having two possible movements on which it could neither be going up or down. If there's a correction then there's always that recovery on which we do know that this market isnt really just that moving on one side forever. Bear market do happens on which considering that we do have cycles on here. Instead on panicking into the current condition of the market, it would be that just more better that you do make out some buybacks because on the time that the market do make out some recovery tnen this indicates that you are making up some profits with that. The market is unpredictable and this should be put up into your mind but having that approach and knows on how to handle yourself at least then this is what you should gonna make.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Legion on April 09, 2025, 11:54:24 PM
I cant make it a conclusion yet over the recent bear we had since the beginning of this week that we already have been on the the bear market completely, we still have to be more careful from how we set track on the market, because before you know it, the market would have gone far beyond your expectations just as we already have the bear, things might change up and the whole table turned around that the market turns bullish and nonstop till we make a all time high, we don't know when this may be, but hopefully withing the year.
I also don't know the exact reason why the market is declining, because I think staying calm and waiting is the best way to do when the market is correcting.
The crypto market is difficult to predict, so I choose to hold and wait because the crypto market is likely to be green again and the price will go up.
Market could only be just having two possible movements on which it could neither be going up or down. If there's a correction then there's always that recovery on which we do know that this market isnt really just that moving on one side forever. Bear market do happens on which considering that we do have cycles on here. Instead on panicking into the current condition of the market, it would be that just more better that you do make out some buybacks because on the time that the market do make out some recovery tnen this indicates that you are making up some profits with that. The market is unpredictable and this should be put up into your mind but having that approach and knows on how to handle yourself at least then this is what you should gonna make.
One thing that must be understood is that not every occurrence of declining is a decrease in the best kind. It is out of uncertainty that the gaps appear in a situation that nobody can predict, though the one who does not have a vested interest and doesn’t hurry with judgments can see them. Thus, while the forecasts for the market are completely beyond one’s control, many people have their expectations pinned on it. The structure and orientation of your thinking about how conditions in the market are set prove that you do not merely sit and wait for instructions but also think about time and situation as well. Despite the fact that there are a lot of risks, I suppose, that it can help to be prepared for such changes not to get lost. You wait for logic, not acting like a child, having an immediate impulse and a reaction.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: taufik123 on April 10, 2025, 07:14:55 AM
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But from looks of things there are some speculations are good to understand the bear run and we can use them. Like the ones of 30%, and 40%. 50% is and indication to start the bear run and if that is the calculation of the bear then we are still far from the bear market.
It is necessary to be prepared for everything that could happen, whether it will continue for a bear market or even go bullish and then reach the ATH again.

There are many scenarios that can happen, a lot of manipulation is done and everyone has their own speculation,
we just need to prepare a strategy that will support the rise or fall and make the most of it
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: dave_strider on April 10, 2025, 08:08:34 AM
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But from looks of things there are some speculations are good to understand the bear run and we can use them. Like the ones of 30%, and 40%. 50% is and indication to start the bear run and if that is the calculation of the bear then we are still far from the bear market.
It is necessary to be prepared for everything that could happen, whether it will continue for a bear market or even go bullish and then reach the ATH again.

There are many scenarios that can happen, a lot of manipulation is done and everyone has their own speculation,
we just need to prepare a strategy that will support the rise or fall and make the most of it

What we can do besides getting more BTC and holding on it to it even tighter? ;)
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: taufik123 on April 10, 2025, 11:24:16 PM
What we can do besides getting more BTC and holding on it to it even tighter? ;)
Buying altcoins that have the potential to rise higher when bullish and of course it is the top altcoin at the moment.
Or if you just want to hold Bitcoin then just hold it for the long term and determine at what price you will sell it.

Don't be swayed by the bad state of the market, keep believing and confident that this bad state will soon end and the market will be bullish again.
Now just enjoy your life and don't think about the crypto market that is not doing well.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Blaze on April 11, 2025, 01:15:27 PM
What we can do besides getting more BTC and holding on it to it even tighter? ;)
Buying altcoins that have the potential to rise higher when bullish and of course it is the top altcoin at the moment.
Or if you just want to hold Bitcoin then just hold it for the long term and determine at what price you will sell it.

Don't be swayed by the bad state of the market, keep believing and confident that this bad state will soon end and the market will be bullish again.
Now just enjoy your life and don't think about the crypto market that is not doing well.
Yes, not all things have to be managed in such a way that they would have to be controlled, particularly when talking about such a field as electronics market. It is natural that a novice investor is worried too much about the variations of prices, whereas, the mature decisions in these markets usually emerge from patience, not from the haste or excessive reaction. The fear or momentary hype or high will not led anyone astray if that person has their goal set with the assets that the possession in the short run or in the future. It is therefore reasonable to submit to the existing norm and not let the current circumstances in modify the life as a whole.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on April 11, 2025, 05:36:31 PM
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But from looks of things there are some speculations are good to understand the bear run and we can use them. Like the ones of 30%, and 40%. 50% is and indication to start the bear run and if that is the calculation of the bear then we are still far from the bear market.
It is necessary to be prepared for everything that could happen, whether it will continue for a bear market or even go bullish and then reach the ATH again.

There are many scenarios that can happen, a lot of manipulation is done and everyone has their own speculation,
we just need to prepare a strategy that will support the rise or fall and make the most of it

       -     I agree with what you said mate, for everything that will happen here in this crypto market industry, we should be ready for all occasions, whether the market situation is good or bad today. If it is bad today, let's look at it positively and if it is good, we should be grateful as well.

If we can smell that we are entering a bear market, we should also start saving up little by little coins that we know have the potential
to produce profit for us in the future.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Agbe on April 11, 2025, 05:43:15 PM
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But from looks of things there are some speculations are good to understand the bear run and we can use them. Like the ones of 30%, and 40%. 50% is and indication to start the bear run and if that is the calculation of the bear then we are still far from the bear market.
It is necessary to be prepared for everything that could happen, whether it will continue for a bear market or even go bullish and then reach the ATH again.

There are many scenarios that can happen, a lot of manipulation is done and everyone has their own speculation,
we just need to prepare a strategy that will support the rise or fall and make the most of it

       -     I agree with what you said mate, for everything that will happen here in this crypto market industry, we should be ready for all occasions, whether the market situation is good or bad today. If it is bad today, let's look at it positively and if it is good, we should be grateful as well.

If we can smell that we are entering a bear market, we should also start saving up little by little coins that we know have the potential
to produce profit for us in the future.
Yes be prepared is another thing for every investors but as a long term investor, and base on the plan and years set for long term investment, from till 2027 I will like to see the bear market at all time. And if it is possible let it be at $-50k so that I can accumulate more and more before the next halving year of 2028. And for me I am still on the bull market and not on the bear market base on my investment plan.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: densus88 on April 11, 2025, 06:19:21 PM
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But from looks of things there are some speculations are good to understand the bear run and we can use them. Like the ones of 30%, and 40%. 50% is and indication to start the bear run and if that is the calculation of the bear then we are still far from the bear market.
It is necessary to be prepared for everything that could happen, whether it will continue for a bear market or even go bullish and then reach the ATH again.

There are many scenarios that can happen, a lot of manipulation is done and everyone has their own speculation,
we just need to prepare a strategy that will support the rise or fall and make the most of it

       -     I agree with what you said mate, for everything that will happen here in this crypto market industry, we should be ready for all occasions, whether the market situation is good or bad today. If it is bad today, let's look at it positively and if it is good, we should be grateful as well.

If we can smell that we are entering a bear market, we should also start saving up little by little coins that we know have the potential
to produce profit for us in the future.
Yes be prepared is another thing for every investors but as a long term investor, and base on the plan and years set for long term investment, from till 2027 I will like to see the bear market at all time. And if it is possible let it be at $-50k so that I can accumulate more and more before the next halving year of 2028. And for me I am still on the bull market and not on the bear market base on my investment plan.
For now I have not thought about long-term investment for 2027 or 2028, because I am more focused on maximizing profits this year. If I have made a big profit, I will set aside my money to buy bitcoin for long-term holding for about 3 or 4 years. This is just a plan because I have a desire to buy property assets from my profits this year.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Agbe on April 11, 2025, 07:00:49 PM
For now I have not thought about long-term investment for 2027 or 2028, because I am more focused on maximizing profits this year. If I have made a big profit, I will set aside my money to buy bitcoin for long-term holding for about 3 or 4 years. This is just a plan because I have a desire to buy property assets from my profits this year.
It is a good plan and everyone has their plan budget in every year. One thing we have to know is that there Re two types of investment. Long term and short term investment. And if you plan well, you can rest n the two at once which the technic I am using right now. I am investing for the both long term and short term so I can use money to buy what I want. Like last week I used $66 to purchase Bitcoin at the rate of $75k and in this week I sold it at the rate of $84k which I have gotten speeding money in the week and that is the part of the Short Term investment I have been saying every time. Just plan well and invest wise.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: taufik123 on April 11, 2025, 08:28:50 PM
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The fear or momentary hype or high will not led anyone astray if that person has their goal set with the assets that the possession in the short run or in the future. It is therefore reasonable to submit to the existing norm and not let the current circumstances in modify the life as a whole.
Setting an initial goal or strategy will be very important to implement and be the basis for holding Bitcoin until now.
Don't be shaken by the downturn, but see how this great opportunity can be used to get even bigger profits.
It is necessary to carry out good and correct risk and capital management, so that all plans can run smoothly.

This kind of situation is only temporary, I am sure there will come a time when bitcoin goes up and then the FOMO gets bigger,
it is time for us to take profits.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Legion on April 13, 2025, 03:45:09 PM
For now I have not thought about long-term investment for 2027 or 2028, because I am more focused on maximizing profits this year. If I have made a big profit, I will set aside my money to buy bitcoin for long-term holding for about 3 or 4 years. This is just a plan because I have a desire to buy property assets from my profits this year.
There is nothing more disheartening than to watch the prices plummet in the last few days and feel that intense nervousness sometimes. But, when there is a good plan on the ground, the volatile market helps in making an opportunity. It is not an issue of waiting for the perfect price but it is on knowing when to keep or when to enter a position at a lower price. If, however, we become able to control the emotions and maintain the proper risk management, time will show that following the investment plan is beneficial. During a recovery period, what is seen is that all the wise decisions made during the decision making process at the end yield positive results.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Basedjack on April 13, 2025, 06:18:20 PM
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The fear or momentary hype or high will not led anyone astray if that person has their goal set with the assets that the possession in the short run or in the future. It is therefore reasonable to submit to the existing norm and not let the current circumstances in modify the life as a whole.
Setting an initial goal or strategy will be very important to implement and be the basis for holding Bitcoin until now.
Don't be shaken by the downturn, but see how this great opportunity can be used to get even bigger profits.
It is necessary to carry out good and correct risk and capital management, so that all plans can run smoothly.

This kind of situation is only temporary, I am sure there will come a time when bitcoin goes up and then the FOMO gets bigger,
it is time for us to take profits.

Yes, if you invest money when the market is stable and hold it for a long time, then you can earn good profits from there and keep it in your fund. You have to adopt knowledge and strategies while investing. So that there is no possibility of losing money from your fund. Never get discouraged by the market situation. If you get discouraged, there is a possibility of losing your money. Try to keep yourself in control in any situation. In this way, your fund will always be full and you can easily reach your goal.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Hisbullah on April 13, 2025, 09:06:58 PM
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The fear or momentary hype or high will not led anyone astray if that person has their goal set with the assets that the possession in the short run or in the future. It is therefore reasonable to submit to the existing norm and not let the current circumstances in modify the life as a whole.
Setting an initial goal or strategy will be very important to implement and be the basis for holding Bitcoin until now.
Don't be shaken by the downturn, but see how this great opportunity can be used to get even bigger profits.
It is necessary to carry out good and correct risk and capital management, so that all plans can run smoothly.

This kind of situation is only temporary, I am sure there will come a time when bitcoin goes up and then the FOMO gets bigger,
it is time for us to take profits.
I agree with you good risk and capital management is very important in investing in bitcoin, because we have to be patient and keep hold if the market goes down and not waver with the initial plan. because bitcoin is indeed suitable for long-term investment, so capital is needed to be able to do it. sometimes panic makes us waver and sell bitcoin at a loss but with enough experience we can still hold and wait.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: enwi on April 13, 2025, 10:57:30 PM
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The fear or momentary hype or high will not led anyone astray if that person has their goal set with the assets that the possession in the short run or in the future. It is therefore reasonable to submit to the existing norm and not let the current circumstances in modify the life as a whole.
Setting an initial goal or strategy will be very important to implement and be the basis for holding Bitcoin until now.
Don't be shaken by the downturn, but see how this great opportunity can be used to get even bigger profits.
It is necessary to carry out good and correct risk and capital management, so that all plans can run smoothly.

This kind of situation is only temporary, I am sure there will come a time when bitcoin goes up and then the FOMO gets bigger,
it is time for us to take profits.
I agree with you good risk and capital management is very important in investing in bitcoin, because we have to be patient and keep hold if the market goes down and not waver with the initial plan. because bitcoin is indeed suitable for long-term investment, so capital is needed to be able to do it. sometimes panic makes us waver and sell bitcoin at a loss but with enough experience we can still hold and wait.
Sometimes we are foolish to think that when the market swings are volatile the pressure comes from outside while in real sense it is pressure from within as we cheque the results frequently in a short duration of time. The moment that creates the biggest disturbance of tranquilly is the desire to know if the steps taken have had a positive return right away. However, the time is ticking and as long as they persist with the selected strategy, productivity will demonstrate the results in the future. Not everything in the process of human life has to be proven immediately. It is only necessary to change our manner of perceiving things, so as not to get carried away by the panic factors which in actual sense are preventable. The more often one has to go through a phase like this, it seems that steadiness is not merely a matter of waiting, but of being prepared not to act.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Azharul on April 14, 2025, 06:52:47 AM
Actually, when will start bear market, it says for very difficult for us. Because cryptocurrency market always depending on up and down. But if we follow in cryptocurrency world we can see that bitcoin price remain slightly down and sometimes it remain high. I think that some days ago donald trump select tariff for various country, which is also a best reason for down in bitcoin price. Otherwise we know that some traditional country continue running war, which is a best effective reason for bear market. But if we want to invest in this time it must be helpful for us.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: fruktik on April 14, 2025, 08:13:24 AM
There is nothing more disheartening than to watch the prices plummet in the last few days and feel that intense nervousness sometimes. But, when there is a good plan on the ground, the volatile market helps in making an opportunity. It is not an issue of waiting for the perfect price but it is on knowing when to keep or when to enter a position at a lower price. If, however, we become able to control the emotions and maintain the proper risk management, time will show that following the investment plan is beneficial. During a recovery period, what is seen is that all the wise decisions made during the decision making process at the end yield positive results.
It is better not to enter the market with such a panic mood. I know from my own experience that it will not lead to anything good. I remember myself when I first started trading. As soon as the price of an asset fell, I immediately rushed to sell and received losses, and after some time there was a recovery again. Therefore, the most reasonable option would be to be patient and observe the rate fluctuations as little as possible.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Legion on April 14, 2025, 11:51:25 PM
There is nothing more disheartening than to watch the prices plummet in the last few days and feel that intense nervousness sometimes. But, when there is a good plan on the ground, the volatile market helps in making an opportunity. It is not an issue of waiting for the perfect price but it is on knowing when to keep or when to enter a position at a lower price. If, however, we become able to control the emotions and maintain the proper risk management, time will show that following the investment plan is beneficial. During a recovery period, what is seen is that all the wise decisions made during the decision making process at the end yield positive results.
It is better not to enter the market with such a panic mood. I know from my own experience that it will not lead to anything good. I remember myself when I first started trading. As soon as the price of an asset fell, I immediately rushed to sell and received losses, and after some time there was a recovery again. Therefore, the most reasonable option would be to be patient and observe the rate fluctuations as little as possible.
Indeed, emotions very much play an important role for or against any individual trading in the market. In case of a sharp decline in the prices, the common tendency is to make a move forthwith, which only leads to negative returns. The experience that you highlighted is very much up to date, after recovering the price and making it achieve a reversal, we tend to consider it as had been a totally irrational venture. Do not let panic set in and sell at the end of the working day and month can allow us to get a broader perspective. It stands to reason that sometimes, equity market takes time, in the sense that we have to understand that it has its highs and lows within certain periods that are not easily predictable in the short run.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: r_victory on April 15, 2025, 12:06:08 AM
It's hard to predict, but it seems that the turbulence caused by the recent events involving Trump and his tariffs is no longer having the negative effect it had when they were announced. BTC seems stable at the $83k/$85k level, which is much better than the drops that occurred to values ​​below $80k. I still think it's possible to return to the $90k to $100k level before the end of the 2nd quarter.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: Bobcrypto on April 15, 2025, 01:08:39 PM
But in this season or era bitcoin will not drop down to $16k again so in what price do you think bitcoin has hit the bear market in this current epoch? $50k? $60k? $70k? What is your bear market price of bitcoin?

At this point, it doesn't look like we are experiencing a bearish run, or we are fully in a bearish season, but of course, we are experiencing a bearish move that might reverse to a short term bullish movement at anytime. The market has not really been stable as the tariff keeps weakening Bitcoin price. We saw $88K last week, $74K in last than 24hrs, and $78K at the time of writing. I think that already tells us enough.

So, I will start considering the bearish run/season from $40K mark.

Well, once the bear flag enter the market, many people, including experts, forecaster, market analyst will surely confirm even from the extent of the price increase or decrease, will not be hidden situations. We may not be able to speculate or determine the exact price level that bitcoin price could be considered bearish. Though there are many analysis that suggested that as bitcoin price break below $70k, it might be a confirmation price level, while others are looking at the price going below $65k to $65k as bearish confirmation price.
In facts, there are many ideas about the bear run recently, I think it will be clearly seen when the market start bear trends  in my opinion.
Title: Re: When is the real Bear Market of Bitcoin?
Post by: kulkhan on April 15, 2025, 10:54:17 PM
Actually, when will start bear market, it says for very difficult for us. Because cryptocurrency market always depending on up and down. But if we follow in cryptocurrency world we can see that bitcoin price remain slightly down and sometimes it remain high. I think that some days ago donald trump select tariff for various country, which is also a best reason for down in bitcoin price. Otherwise we know that some traditional country continue running war, which is a best effective reason for bear market. But if we want to invest in this time it must be helpful for us.
Yes correct, Cryptocurrency market is always unpredictable. When it will bull and when it will bear it is very difficult to say. But i think within short time we will saw a bear market wither long bear ot short bear. Because we seeing some elements for bear market. Like, US president Donald Trump is taking some decision which is very harmful for world economy. He started economical war, ot will creat negative impact on cryptocurrency market there has no doubt. If Donald Trump continue it then bear market will start there has no y.