[Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread

[Uruhara]

In the pre-season match against Rosenborg, it turned out that Man United had to suffer a 0-1 defeat. And looking at the game statistics, Man United clearly doesn't play well. But this is because ten hag gave the young players at Man United the opportunity to play in this match. And the results are not that good. Maybe in the next match Man United will have to play better. Even though it was only a pre-season match, their quality was still assessed even though it was a pre-season match. In the next match, Man United will face Rangers. I hope it's a pretty interesting fight.

I don't think the team.are going to do differently even though the set of the squad is complete for that match. The team wasn't just a combination of young players, it's a mix of young and old players and yet they fumble completely. Let's even say the team were young, is that a justification to why they should failed to win that match? It doesn't makes sense anymore for a team like that to continue underperformed at any given opportunity, how are they going to impress the fans that they are ready for the season if they are having preseason like this.

Yes, winning is always necessary, even if it's just a friendly match. because winning can have a big influence on a player's self-confidence or improve the player's mentality. Even though in reality Ten Hag might not really care about the results, the reality is that Man United fans still definitely want to see Man United win even in a pre-season match.

[armanda90]

Pre season matches may be not really important matches, but they are surely not useless matches. You're right, the coaches can evaluate everything during the pre season matches. The coaches also can try some options for the tactics, formations, and the player selections. Although the team won't play very seriously, but they also can get the time for exercises. The players also will try to have a good teamwork during the matches, too.

Most of teams used their second composition for pre season match and not give pressure have to win. Its important for tactician giving their young player more minutes playing and want to try what good tactician adopted. Build team work is very important for pre season match and some La Liga team will pre pare with their pre season match in this week.
Real Madrid will begin their pre season match on the early next month and some regular player still absent most of them get rest after playing for their national team.

[Uruhara]

Pre season matches may be not really important matches, but they are surely not useless matches. You're right, the coaches can evaluate everything during the pre season matches. The coaches also can try some options for the tactics, formations, and the player selections. Although the team won't play very seriously, but they also can get the time for exercises. The players also will try to have a good teamwork during the matches, too.

Most of teams used their second composition for pre season match and not give pressure have to win. Its important for tactician giving their young player more minutes playing and want to try what good tactician adopted. Build team work is very important for pre season match and some La Liga team will pre pare with their pre season match in this week.
Real Madrid will begin their pre season match on the early next month and some regular player still absent most of them get rest after playing for their national team.

You guys are right. Pre-season matches are only intended to test and evaluate young players or players who have not had many opportunities to play on the field. So the results of pre-season matches do not always reflect the quality of the squad in the actual season. And pre-season matches are also very useful in an effort to give second-tier players the opportunity to show off their skills in real matches. And if the player is lucky and plays well then he can be promoted to become a main player in the next season.

[ajiz138]

You guys are right. Pre-season matches are only intended to test and evaluate young players or players who have not had many opportunities to play on the field. So the results of pre-season matches do not always reflect the quality of the squad in the actual season. And pre-season matches are also very useful in an effort to give second-tier players the opportunity to show off their skills in real matches. And if the player is lucky and plays well then he can be promoted to become a main player in the next season.

They also know what their goal is in pre-season, one of which is to see how they play. Players who were originally used as reserve players will experience playing minutes and sometimes they can show their best game and the coach changes their mind to make them the main players.

They are also smart because they don't want their opponents to know what their strengths are, so they just use pre-season as a trial.

[UNIVERSE]

Yes, winning is always necessary, even if it's just a friendly match. because winning can have a big influence on a player's self-confidence or improve the player's mentality. Even though in reality Ten Hag might not really care about the results, the reality is that Man United fans still definitely want to see Man United win even in a pre-season match.

Every team must try to win the match, but they won't force themselves to win the friendly matches. I'm sure the coach will prioritize the friendly matches for the second tier lineup, the main players won't play a long time. I'm sure the whole players won't think too much about the result of the matches. However, I agree that they will do some efforts to win the matches. Sure, Man United will also try to get good results on the friendly matches as well. Fans want to see the performance of new players.

[Harkorede]

New signing
Done Deal
Leny Yoro to Man United
It's great to see this young defender to Man United

This time more seriously I can see that business at Man United has been different since INEOS came in but The best way to build is by letting other players leave.
Sell Casemiro, or sell Scott Mctominay, don’t sell both. Preferably Casemiro because he’s worth more and United needs Casemiro's guidance and leadership to the new signings to bolster the midfield.
Leny Yoro is indeed a top defender. However, it should be remembered that he is still 18 years old.

I really don't know if Yoro will be able to easily adapt to life in England at his age, the pressure will be enormous for him and given that Man United themselves are struggling isn't going to make it any easier for him. It's going to be really easy to criticize and look for faults in his performance as with his predecessors.

The other team from Manchester have signed one of the finest attackers in Europe last season, in Savinho... and the interesting part of the story is that they reportedly paid around the same amount that Man United paid for and unproven Zirkzee , desperate times as usual

[Zed0X]

What Loro said:

I know about the history of young players at Manchester United and feel it can be the perfect place to reach my potential and achieve my ambitions, together with my new team-mates. I cannot wait to get started

Oh boy, I hope your dreams  won't be crushed by the upcoming club disappointments Anyway, the guy is still young and a lot of teams will probably want him after five years if he could show his talents.

On the blue side of Manchester, City also started to make more moves with Savinho's signing.

[sampoerna]

New signing
Done Deal
Leny Yoro to Man United
It's great to see this young defender to Man United

This time more seriously I can see that business at Man United has been different since INEOS came in but The best way to build is by letting other players leave.
Sell Casemiro, or sell Scott Mctominay, don’t sell both. Preferably Casemiro because he’s worth more and United needs Casemiro's guidance and leadership to the new signings to bolster the midfield.
Leny Yoro is indeed a top defender. However, it should be remembered that he is still 18 years old.

Well, actually, Leny Yoro is a potential player, as you said, but he can't be said to be an actual star yet, it's just that he can become a star because he has quite good potential. At least, we'll see how Man United can give themselves the opportunity to develop further at the club and optimize their ability to make Man United's defense even tighter, at least, better than before, because we know very well how Man United's defense is considered very or sufficient. weak. But once again, we don't need to expect too much from him to carry this burden. Man United must be able to find other defenders who are much more established and stronger.

And currently, they are still targeting de Ligt to become one of the things they hope for. Maybe he is prone to injury, but at least his experience and performance are quite good. Ah, this season, maybe Man United really hopes to make better decisions, and hopefully their management by Ten Hag can really be better.

[koang]

Well, actually, Leny Yoro is a potential player, as you said, but he can't be said to be an actual star yet, it's just that he can become a star because he has quite good potential. At least, we'll see how Man United can give themselves the opportunity to develop further at the club and optimize their ability to make Man United's defense even tighter, at least, better than before, because we know very well how Man United's defense is considered very or sufficient. weak. But once again, we don't need to expect too much from him to carry this burden. Man United must be able to find other defenders who are much more established and stronger.

And currently, they are still targeting de Ligt to become one of the things they hope for. Maybe he is prone to injury, but at least his experience and performance are quite good. Ah, this season, maybe Man United really hopes to make better decisions, and hopefully their management by Ten Hag can really be better.

Lille's success last season was largely built on a solid backline. In matches where Yoro played 60 minutes or more, Lille kept an impressive 13 clean sheets. He is a star
I agree, United still needs De Ligt, he is a good defender. However, negotiations have been delayed because United will not be able to buy another player until they receive an injection of funds through the sale of several other players to finance the Dutch defender's transfer to Old Trafford.

[KingsDen]

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The latest rumor linked to Chelsea is Julian Alvarez at Man City, who was previously rumored to want to leave the club.
The news https://chelsea.news/2024/07/chelsea-target-julian-alvarez-tells-city-he-wants-to-leave/

I think we'll see more of these City players wanting more playing time and money that's why they prefer to leave the club. Since they already got what they wanted winning PL and CL, they can explore other options now. At the end of the day, it's about maximizing how much money they can get in another team.

Actually this is the first time I am getting what I believe is the reason that this young players would want to leave Manchester City. Someone like average house already gotten the Premier League title in his name, also has gotten the Champions League in his name and he also has gotten the prestigious World Cup in his name. This means he has nothing much chasing again in his career. So, leaving Manchester City to a club where he will have a better playing and eventually be paid better should be his priority.
That's actually enough time to make money and not to sit on the Manchester city bench and wait when his opportunity will come (which might never come). Because Manchester City will always be going for the best at any point in time. This is the reason I believe Cole Palmer is not regretting his exit from the Manchester city team.

[Rruchi man]

On the blue side of Manchester, City also started to make more moves with Savinho's signing.

Just like Real Madrid, any player that Manchester City brings in, I consider them world best because it takes a lot to please coaches like Pep Guardiola that they actually consider bringing you to a club that can absolutely do without your services. I think it is a privilege to be under a coach like Pep. I do not doubt that Savinho, who I have never heard about before, will do well in the premier league like Doku and Gvardiol. Unlike Yoro signing for Manchester United, whom we are still doubting, I trust the signing of Savinho.

[vegasus]

Actually this is the first time I am getting what I believe is the reason that this young players would want to leave Manchester City. Someone like average house already gotten the Premier League title in his name, also has gotten the Champions League in his name and he also has gotten the prestigious World Cup in his name. This means he has nothing much chasing again in his career. So, leaving Manchester City to a club where he will have a better playing and eventually be paid better should be his priority.

Surely.
However, what a player needs apart from being at the top club is their playing time. without that, they will just be a reserve for life and this will not be good for their career development. Moreover, they are players who actually have qualities and talents that can really develop. It's just that they are the only ones because there are indeed stronger and better people in their team. This happens very often at top clubs. And, in the end they are only on the bench, it would be good if they were on loan to another club, at least they would have increased value because they are in the top club and have playing time at their other club. But of course, after they have a name from a top club, they also want to have a career at their own club with optimal playing hours. And that is often the reason they move from top clubs to other clubs.

[koang]

Just like Real Madrid, any player that Manchester City brings in, I consider them world best because it takes a lot to please coaches like Pep Guardiola that they actually consider bringing you to a club that can absolutely do without your services. I think it is a privilege to be under a coach like Pep. I do not doubt that Savinho, who I have never heard about before, will do well in the premier league like Doku and Gvardiol. Unlike Yoro signing for Manchester United, whom we are still doubting, I trust the signing of Savinho.

Many say that Savio is the new Mahrez, City got a replacement for Mahrez and this Is the best summer transfer for City but I don't think so.
It’s an FFP transfer, Both clubs are owned by City Group.
And he wears a different name on his jersey, previously, he was known by the name Savio on his back, from Savio to Savinho, just for luck. lol
Anyway, Welcome to the City...Let's see if he lives up to the challenge.

[armanda90]

Lille's success last season was largely built on a solid backline. In matches where Yoro played 60 minutes or more, Lille kept an impressive 13 clean sheets. He is a star
I agree, United still needs De Ligt, he is a good defender. However, negotiations have been delayed because United will not be able to buy another player until they receive an injection of funds through the sale of several other players to finance the Dutch defender's transfer to Old Trafford.

Difficult reach agreement with De light make Manchester United focus for signing Leny Yoro with 65 million euro fees transfer, I think De Light seems have most expensive fees transfer but he had much experienced than Leny Yoro still as young players and lack experienced playing with high intention competition.

Manchester United have played two pre season match after defeating by Rosenborg on first match success return to winning trend on second pre season match against Rangers. Leny Yoro make debut last match and Erik ten Hag will priority for him get regular position as central defender next season.

[JoyMarsha]

In the pre-season match against Rosenborg, it turned out that Man United had to suffer a 0-1 defeat. And looking at the game statistics, Man United clearly doesn't play well. But this is because ten hag gave the young players at Man United the opportunity to play in this match. And the results are not that good. Maybe in the next match Man United will have to play better. Even though it was only a pre-season match, their quality was still assessed even though it was a pre-season match. In the next match, Man United will face Rangers. I hope it's a pretty interesting fight.

I don't think the team.are going to do differently even though the set of the squad is complete for that match. The team wasn't just a combination of young players, it's a mix of young and old players and yet they fumble completely. Let's even say the team were young, is that a justification to why they should failed to win that match? It doesn't makes sense anymore for a team like that to continue underperformed at any given opportunity, how are they going to impress the fans that they are ready for the season if they are having preseason like this.

Yes, winning is always necessary, even if it's just a friendly match. because winning can have a big influence on a player's self-confidence or improve the player's mentality. Even though in reality Ten Hag might not really care about the results, the reality is that Man United fans still definitely want to see Man United win even in a pre-season match.

I view pre-season match wins and losses as the testing stage that some coaches use to know how mentally and physically ready their players are, towards the upcoming season.

Big or small teams can beat each other, but that doesn't count really because not all the first-team players play in it. A team can have all their pre-season friendly matches won and still have a bad performance in their main league matches.

That been said, I don't regard the performance of any club to be great or worst during their pre season matches until when the league matches kicks in. That's when I think, it should be right to judge the coach and players performance