[Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread

[sampoerna]

EPL have begin to lose its vibes which made it different from other leagues because the competition is no longer strong compared to before that a club cannot win the league for straight three times talk more of four times.

Why it lose its vibes? I think there is no problem with its vibes or its popularity. EPL still becomes the best league in the world, EPL is even more competitive because more teams join the competition of the trophy. Now, it is not only Man City dominates the league, Arsenal and Liverpool also show their good performance in every season.

I also don't think if the Premier League loose the vibes. What kind of vibes do you mean. because of Man City's success in winning every season? But we can also see how Man City managed to win the trophy, it was not an easy process. even the victory to become the winner of the EPL was determined from the last matches. the competition in the Premier League is very tight, especially with Arsenal which is usually the tightest, only a few points apart and that is often also because Arsenal is careless enough to lose in important seconds.

If we look back at how Man City struggled to lift the Premier League trophy in several seasons, it was not that easy. Even last season, Liverpool also joined the party and this made the competition in the top 3 very tight. However, after that, there were several things that affected their consistency so that Liverpool finally came out of the fierce and tight competition in the top 3.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Honestly, I am always skeptical when talking about Manchester United, not because I underestimate them but they themselves make me think like that. For example in recruiting players, from the strategies used and many more.

Well, we are people who always see things in a good way, I have my own way of concluding that the mistake of the MU is in the management, in its coach, but as for the players they all seem perfect to me, they have everything to win, they can show everything in a preseason, in fact without going too far, they can win everything, but when it comes to playing in the PL it is another thing , and that is where the true level comes in, for now they can all be kings of the preseason , if not, let Barcelona say it, they beat Madrid, I liked it, but in general terms the one who must improve is not the MU players, it is the coach.

[Uruhara]

I think Erik Ten Hag hasn't finished fixing the fatal weaknesses in the Man United squad to date. Maybe the presence of Leny Yoro will bring a little fresh air to Man Utd's defense. But after hearing the news that this young defender was injured and even underwent surgery and would be out for 3 months. Hearing this, I became doubtful about Man Utd's defense again. Even when Yoro returns from injury, he certainly won't immediately appear as good as he was before his injury. Erik Ten Hag must be a little confused right now. Because even though the season hasn't started yet, they already have injured players. With these conditions, we really can't expect much from Man Utd, who don't seem to be in optimal condition based on the matches they showed in pre-season.

[koang]

I think Erik Ten Hag hasn't finished fixing the fatal weaknesses in the Man United squad to date. Maybe the presence of Leny Yoro will bring a little fresh air to Man Utd's defense. But after hearing the news that this young defender was injured and even underwent surgery and would be out for 3 months. Hearing this, I became doubtful about Man Utd's defense again. Even when Yoro returns from injury, he certainly won't immediately appear as good as he was before his injury. Erik Ten Hag must be a little confused right now. Because even though the season hasn't started yet, they already have injured players. With these conditions, we really can't expect much from Man Utd, who don't seem to be in optimal condition based on the matches they showed in pre-season.

Erik Ten Hag already knows what to do,  he needs De Ligt to sign, they are starting to increase the intensity of De Ligt's recruitment and hope that the defender's transfer can be completed this week but United is only willing to pay what they deem to be the correct fee for each transfer target and negotiations will not be allowed to drag on until the end of the market.
Bayern wants to play hard, I hope it does not like a problem. Let's see, we are here to see

[Zed0X]

I think Erik Ten Hag hasn't finished fixing the fatal weaknesses in the Man United squad to date. Maybe the presence of Leny Yoro will bring a little fresh air to Man Utd's defense. But after hearing the news that this young defender was injured and even underwent surgery and would be out for 3 months. Hearing this, I became doubtful about Man Utd's defense again. Even when Yoro returns from injury, he certainly won't immediately appear as good as he was before his injury. Erik Ten Hag must be a little confused right now. Because even though the season hasn't started yet, they already have injured players. With these conditions, we really can't expect much from Man Utd, who don't seem to be in optimal condition based on the matches they showed in pre-season.

Western mainstream media pundits and some self-proclaimed football experts will probably try to hype what appears to be a great signing but just a tip, don't expect too much from Man United

[Gurujebs]

Western mainstream media pundits and some self-proclaimed football experts will probably try to hype what appears to be a great signing but just a tip, don't expect too much from Man United

Atimes I sit for a while and think what the western Media would have done right now if the likes of Ronaldinho, Kaka, Drogba and many greatest legend that played football for passion would have gotten the way they portray average players like demi gods. Its a shame that an average player is now what they package in the media but I don't blame them, the fans enjoy baseless arguments at slightest opportunity.

As for Manchester United, as long as they didn't change Erik Ten I don't expect anything great from them. They might just be repeating what they did last season.

[Sim_card]

EPL have begin to lose its vibes which made it different from other leagues because the competition is no longer strong compared to before that a club cannot win the league for straight three times talk more of four times.

Why it lose its vibes? I think there is no problem with its vibes or its popularity. EPL still becomes the best league in the world, EPL is even more competitive because more teams join the competition of the trophy. Now, it is not only Man City dominates the league, Arsenal and Liverpool also show their good performance in every season.

I also don't think if the Premier League loose the vibes. What kind of vibes do you mean. because of Man City's success in winning every season? But we can also see how Man City managed to win the trophy, it was not an easy process. even the victory to become the winner of the EPL was determined from the last matches. the competition in the Premier League is very tight, especially with Arsenal which is usually the tightest, only a few points apart and that is often also because Arsenal is careless enough to lose in important seconds.

If we look back at how Man City struggled to lift the Premier League trophy in several seasons, it was not that easy. Even last season, Liverpool also joined the party and this made the competition in the top 3 very tight. However, after that, there were several things that affected their consistency so that Liverpool finally came out of the fierce and tight competition in the top 3.

It is becoming boring because it is easy to predict the winner of the league just like in Ligue 1 because no club is strong enough to win the title from Manchester city for 4 years and you said that it is still the same like those days when clubs hardly win it back to back during Asern Wenger, Ferguson Era. Personally, that is what I am picturing maybe no one is seeing it from my own perspective. I think same thing will repeat itself again because no club in EPL is as strong as City currently which is a shame. Meaning, they have already surrender to  City and that is why I said that the league is losing her vibes of season different clubs wining the league to make it unpredictable. I don't see it competitive anymore...Seria A is getting more interesting. To prove this how many EPL clubs was able to reach the semifinals in both European competitions, if not City....no club can unlike before that you will see two English clubs playing against each other in semifinals or finals of European competitions. Only four clubs from EPL will be in UCL but it is not same with other leagues that have 5 representatives.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think the MU situation is that they need to get out of what they are experiencing, which is a Nightmare,If with all the players at 100% they can't win as they Should, I can't imagine a scenario where the majority of them are having Problems with injuries, I am one of the people who will always see things from the point of view that they have to be more Consistent in their recovery It is in their own hands to shine in the Best league in Europe, It seems to me that the PL is at the Highest level of Football in Europe.

It's like a continuous bad luck that happens to Man United. Injuries to their players are very common, even at the beginning of the season. Worse, in pre-season matches too. And this is what often makes Man United's performance really like a nightmare in every season lately. Although indeed, not only with injuries, actually their performance is also not good. but injuries complete their bad performance.

At least, Hojlund and also their summer signing, Leny Yoro, are currently getting assessments for injuries that occurred. Yes, especially Leny Yoro, this is their new signing and they have high hopes for this player, especially their pride that managed to precede Real Madrid to get Leny Yoro, and is currently threatened with injury.

More about info injury of Man United:
https://www.premierleague.com/news/4069491

I have a very clear thought, for me the MU's problem is Ten Hag, I know that there are many who defend him, but I am one of those who believe that with a great squad and that they cannot win, it is no longer the players' fault, it is the coach's fault, for me there is no other way , it is my very particular thought, but I respect the thoughts of each person, so I only say that it is not possible that the MU is so bad when it has such good Material.

[pawel7777]

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Even last season, Liverpool also joined the party and this made the competition in the top 3 very tight. However, after that, there were several things that affected their consistency so that Liverpool finally came out of the fierce and tight competition in the top 3.

I don't expect things to be easy for the Liverpool this season.
Changing the manager always brings some disruption and uncertainty. New managers (especially the high-profile ones) do not tend to copy their predecessor's style and vision, but ar rather interested in imposing their own style.
Klopp was one of the best managers the Liverpool has ever had and will be hard to replace, but even with him, things were not always so rosy.
Arne Slot is not very experienced and has never coached outside of the Netherlands, and the Premier League is incomparably harder.

[UNIVERSE]

Yoro out for 3 months
Hojlund out for 6 weeks
Rashford is not badly injured but he might miss a few weeks.

These are the main players should they get injured then the other option might be to look for other alternatives in the transfer window before it closes, I'm not sure what the other names will be but there will be a lot of links with Manchester United.

I think Man United still have the replacement of those players. If Man United has no time to buy new players, I think it is better to keep the current players who are suitable to replace the injured players. However, I heard the issue that Man United still wants to try signing new players. I don't know if it is caused by the injury, or it is their plan since the early of this transfer window. But I hope Man United won't sign bad quality of players.

[vegasus]

It is becoming boring because it is easy to predict the winner of the league just like in Ligue 1 because no club is strong enough to win the title from Manchester city for 4 years and you said that it is still the same like those days when clubs hardly win it back to back during Asern Wenger, Ferguson Era.

But even though the winner of the EPL for several seasons is Man City, in my opinion, the competition in the Premier League is not boring. Why? Because throughout the season there was quite tight competition from other clubs. Previously there was Arsenal and was always in the race for the winner, which is known to be Man City's strongest competitor, although finally at the end of the season, they had to admit Man City's superiority. then there was also Liverpool who were also in the race, it's just that their consistency was not good enough so they were out of the race.

[bounceback]

I think Man United still have the replacement of those players. If Man United has no time to buy new players, I think it is better to keep the current players who are suitable to replace the injured players. However, I heard the issue that Man United still wants to try signing new players. I don't know if it is caused by the injury, or it is their plan since the early of this transfer window. But I hope Man United won't sign bad quality of players.

Manchester United must finding new replacement for several crucial position after leaving by their players due injured and taken more than several weeks later. Yeni Loro most expected players but he needs more longer time to make debut with Manchester United in Premier League matches after getting injury and out more than 3 months.
Indeed has many players get injury, Manchester United still not finding new replacement although linked with some players for signing but not reach agreement deal until right now.
If won't get bad performance in the early of Premier League match, Manchester United must find or sign new players exactly on defender position and attacking lone.

[Uruhara]

I think Erik Ten Hag hasn't finished fixing the fatal weaknesses in the Man United squad to date. Maybe the presence of Leny Yoro will bring a little fresh air to Man Utd's defense. But after hearing the news that this young defender was injured and even underwent surgery and would be out for 3 months. Hearing this, I became doubtful about Man Utd's defense again. Even when Yoro returns from injury, he certainly won't immediately appear as good as he was before his injury. Erik Ten Hag must be a little confused right now. Because even though the season hasn't started yet, they already have injured players. With these conditions, we really can't expect much from Man Utd, who don't seem to be in optimal condition based on the matches they showed in pre-season.

Western mainstream media pundits and some self-proclaimed football experts will probably try to hype what appears to be a great signing but just a tip, don't expect too much from Man United

yeah I think it's like that. We don't need to expect too much from this club for now. Because last season I was quite disappointed because at first I trusted this club too much. Because in the 2023 season they will end the season well. But in 2024 they ended badly. And maybe in 2025 the possibilities will become quite unpredictable. Will it be the same as 2023 or will it be the same as 2024.

[ajiz138]

Yes after they were in their glory days, they have to be a team that is widely underestimated now. This happened after they were left by Alex Ferguson, when Ferguson decided to retire from there we began to see the decline experienced by Manchester United.

They are a big team, they are also one of the teams with the most fans. However, with their status as a big team today they do not show that they are indeed a big team like before.

Manchester Unite have been over since leaving by Sir Alex Ferguson and never winning the domestic league trophies almost ten years, its longer time waiting for although still has Arsenal more than twenty years waiting for moment last their winning on season 2002/03. Manchester United is the big team and have most fanaticism fans but they are not lucky for winning premier league trophies after leaving by Ferguson.
Left two weeks before premier league season 2024/25 begin and I don't see any reason put United as candidate team become the winner.

In addition, their management is also not working seriously in my opinion, because if they were very serious then they would be able to bring Manchester United to its glory days or at least they would not be in a state that is too bad like now.

A professional team must have very good management, because even though in the game the players are playing on the instructions of the coach, the role of management is something that is very crucial because they are the ones who will direct the team where to go.

[JoyMarsha]

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Even last season, Liverpool also joined the party and this made the competition in the top 3 very tight. However, after that, there were several things that affected their consistency so that Liverpool finally came out of the fierce and tight competition in the top 3.

Will you be surprised to be let know that Liverpool hasn't signed any new players in addition to their current squad this season? Do you think they are doing the right thing, that their already made squad by their former coach "Klopp," the new coach "Arne Slot" is satisfied with them? There's the possibility of Liverpool making it to the top of the table this season. These are my questions when I find out that Liverpool hasn't made any new signings in this transfer window