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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1620 on: August 13, 2024, 07:44:05 PM »
Will Liverpool going to start the new season without a single new player?

Liverpool got the new manager but management does not support him by buying new players.
4 days to go and not a single signing. It's not a good sign
The Zubimmendi transfer mess-up should be a wake-up call to all Liverpool fans. If a player from a lower club like Real Sociedad can easily reject Liverpool's offer, it shows that there is a problem.
I don't see any problems between Arne Slot and his club management, it's fine, after all the squad is still solid so no players have been removed meaning they are still the same as last season.

It could be why Liverpool don't make big transfers the reason behind it is Arne Slot doesn't want more players, he can test the existing players first and that's not bad at all after there is a shortage then Liverpool can transfer in the winter.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1621 on: August 13, 2024, 10:02:44 PM »
The speculation begins after the Community shield ;D I wouldn't use this game to speculate on City's performance next season because they started slow in the past two seasons but they still ended up winning the league. As for Man United, they give you hope at the beginning but they disappoint in the end ::)
I wouldn't call Manchester United's lost match against Manchester City a disappointing one because they held Manchester City to a penalty shootout that any team can win to it. Manchester United was just unlucky in lifting the Community Shield trophy. They are not to be condemned over it because they perform pretty better than they have known to last season.

For next season, the reverse might be the case. Manchester United may not disappoint its fans in their home and away matches since they have made some good signings in their teams.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1622 on: August 13, 2024, 10:08:22 PM »
Will Liverpool going to start the new season without a single new player?

Liverpool got the new manager but management does not support him by buying new players.
4 days to go and not a single signing. It's not a good sign
The Zubimmendi transfer mess-up should be a wake-up call to all Liverpool fans. If a player from a lower club like Real Sociedad can easily reject Liverpool's offer, it shows that there is a problem.
I don't see any problems between Arne Slot and his club management, it's fine, after all the squad is still solid so no players have been removed meaning they are still the same as last season.

It could be why Liverpool don't make big transfers the reason behind it is Arne Slot doesn't want more players, he can test the existing players first and that's not bad at all after there is a shortage then Liverpool can transfer in the winter.
Liverpool are not shopping for players at the moment. but they got additional players who were promoted from Liverpool U21. He is Bobby Clark. And there are several players who have also come back after being loaned to other teams last season. Well, it doesn't seem like a big problem if Liverpool doesn't recruit new players. because Slot can better understand the existing squad without having to think about adapting a lot to new players. Man City also didn't move much in the transfer market this time. even though they still brought in 1 new player.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1623 on: August 13, 2024, 10:55:07 PM »
It could be why Liverpool don't make big transfers the reason behind it is Arne Slot doesn't want more players, he can test the existing players first and that's not bad at all after there is a shortage then Liverpool can transfer in the winter.
Actually, Liverpool itself has a pretty good squad and they are still quite solid. They have been competing together for several years and there has not been much change. And one of the targets that Arne Slot did was to optimize the existing squad.

However, in fact, if Liverpool wants to compete with Man City and Arsenal quite closely, then at least they have to get top players to really be able to optimally strengthen the squad. Their front line also needs to be increased in strength and sharpness. However, until now, they have not found top and suitable players.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1624 on: August 13, 2024, 11:15:12 PM »
I don't see any problems between Arne Slot and his club management, it's fine, after all the squad is still solid so no players have been removed meaning they are still the same as last season.

It could be why Liverpool don't make big transfers the reason behind it is Arne Slot doesn't want more players, he can test the existing players first and that's not bad at all after there is a shortage then Liverpool can transfer in the winter.
Generally, Arne Slot has no problem although he still doesn't sign any new player. He looks quite confident with the current squad of Liverpool. I also think Liverpool squad is good enough, they don't have small number of the players. But I think Liverpool striker isn't very impressive. If you remember the last season, Nunez still couldn't play as expected. He is even rumored to leave Liverpool but Arne Slot seems to keep him. I personally think that Arne Slot actually needs to sign a new top striker. They can't rely on Nunez that still can't play consistently.


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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1625 on: August 13, 2024, 11:43:08 PM »
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I have a very clear thought, for me the MU's problem is Ten Hag, I know that there are many who defend him, but I am one of those who believe that with a great squad and that they cannot win, it is no longer the players' fault, it is the coach's fault,
And, Man United still maintain it with the excuse that Ten Hag has done his best and they won the FA Cup. Actually, that happened maybe because there is no other alternative coach that Man United can choose. Moreover, with the selection of the squad played by Ten Hag, it is often controversial. Ah, Ten Hag, yes, he plays a big role in what happened at Man United, and their management is also not good enough to manage and get top players. And what has happened so far that often makes us angry and upset is that Ten Hag still includes several players who are controversial and cannot be relied on at all when competing.

Generally, Arne Slot has no problem although he still doesn't sign any new player. He looks quite confident with the current squad of Liverpool. I also think Liverpool squad is good enough, they don't have small number of the players.
So far, it's just rumors and rumors at Liverpool, that's not much about the players Liverpool are targeting. Martin Baturina and Barış Alper Yılmaz, are some of the rumors. And I'm not even that familiar with them.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1626 on: August 14, 2024, 12:50:43 AM »
The speculation begins after the Community shield ;D I wouldn't use this game to speculate on City's performance next season because they started slow in the past two seasons but they still ended up winning the league. As for Man United, they give you hope at the beginning but they disappoint in the end ::)
I wouldn't call Manchester United's lost match against Manchester City a disappointing one because they held Manchester City to a penalty shootout that any team can win to it. Manchester United was just unlucky in lifting the Community Shield trophy. They are not to be condemned over it because they perform pretty better than they have known to last season.

For next season, the reverse might be the case. Manchester United may not disappoint its fans in their home and away matches since they have made some good signings in their teams.


I think the Community Shield performance from both Manchester clubs should be taken with very little importance and shouldn't be used as a performance gauge to make predictions or presumptions on what to expect from these club over the course of the season, Manchester City are way better than the performance they displayed on Sunday, they will be much better than that on average over the season, and as Manchester United they didn't look bad either but that's coming from playing against not the best performance they should have faced against City, however with the acquisition of two pretty good defenders from Bayern Munich, that should help bolster things defensively for them which was one of their weak links.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1626 on: August 14, 2024, 12:50:43 AM »


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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1627 on: August 14, 2024, 05:59:48 AM »
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I don't see any problems between Arne Slot and his club management, it's fine, after all the squad is still solid so no players have been removed meaning they are still the same as last season.

It could be why Liverpool don't make big transfers the reason behind it is Arne Slot doesn't want more players, he can test the existing players first and that's not bad at all after there is a shortage then Liverpool can transfer in the winter.
Liverpool are not shopping for players at the moment. but they got additional players who were promoted from Liverpool U21. He is Bobby Clark. And there are several players who have also come back after being loaned to other teams last season. Well, it doesn't seem like a big problem if Liverpool doesn't recruit new players. because Slot can better understand the existing squad without having to think about adapting a lot to new players. Man City also didn't move much in the transfer market this time. even though they still brought in 1 new player.

Ah, Okay... They promote young players from the academy, it's a good choice. So no excitement about seeing new signings? :)

Jones and Jota are injury-prone, Slot can't depend on them fully. Gravenberch and Szobo, it's hard for them to stay fit the whole season. Bajcetic, Konate is likely prone to injuries, and recently Trent and Robbo.  Liverpool is in so much competition. So long months ahead.
I Support the players they have but Going into the season with the same squad with no fresh faces is risky

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1628 on: August 14, 2024, 01:59:20 PM »
Liverpool are not shopping for players at the moment. but they got additional players who were promoted from Liverpool U21. He is Bobby Clark. And there are several players who have also come back after being loaned to other teams last season. Well, it doesn't seem like a big problem if Liverpool doesn't recruit new players. because Slot can better understand the existing squad without having to think about adapting a lot to new players. Man City also didn't move much in the transfer market this time. even though they still brought in 1 new player.
Liverpool still get problem for signing new players and rumor linked with Martín Zubimendi but the players had rejected and not interested for joining Liverpool because still want stay with Real Sociedad. Liverpool have many weakness side exactly with central forward has inconsistency performance from Darwin Nunez.
Face much problem later if transfer window close but Liverpool not sign yet any new player yet until right now, under Arne Slot not new players signing and seems Liverpool keep effective with current player after some players keep extend for next season.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1629 on: August 14, 2024, 02:56:29 PM »
You are right, when Manchester City can give their best, at the same time other teams fail to show good and consistent play, so that opens up opportunities for Manchester City to continue to dominate the English League in the last few seasons. It would be a different story if they had a worthy opponent.

Many teams are below their best performance, even Liverpool still often slips, as does Arsenal. Other big teams like Chelsea and Manchester United, we know how they are now.
I think this season will be a different one and Manchester City will not be able to win EPL because a lot of changes has been made and new players bought in various clubs to strengthen their clubs so that they can be able to be in competition with City. I see football as a game that a club can dominate for some time and that club will fade away giving room to the best to take over dominance.
That will be answered this season, because currently they are still the team with the biggest chance compared to other teams, and in terms of team strength they still have good team strength.

I think it will depend on how other teams play this season, if it is still the same as previous seasons, then Manchester City will still be the best. There is also a factor because they are still with Pep Guardiola who already knows this team very well.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1630 on: August 14, 2024, 03:07:12 PM »
I think the Community Shield performance from both Manchester clubs should be taken with very little importance and shouldn't be used as a performance gauge to make predictions or presumptions on what to expect from these club over the course of the season, Manchester City are way better than the performance they displayed on Sunday, they will be much better than that on average over the season, and as Manchester United they didn't look bad either but that's coming from playing against not the best performance they should have faced against City, however with the acquisition of two pretty good defenders from Bayern Munich, that should help bolster things defensively for them which was one of their weak links.

Manchester united didn't stand on business, they would have given more than what they displayed that very day. The defenders weren't doing what they were supposed to do and Onana was very poor in guiding which gives space to Manchester City to score goal when the match was almost coming to an end, City equalized in 89 minutes and that was shameful.

They had the chance not to proceed to the penalty but the did any way and again because Onana wasn't fit for Penalty, the effort put through out the beginning of the match to end went in vain. Even from the statistics, Manchester United played City judging from there possession and performance.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1631 on: August 14, 2024, 07:30:16 PM »
I don't see any problems between Arne Slot and his club management, it's fine, after all the squad is still solid so no players have been removed meaning they are still the same as last season.

It could be why Liverpool don't make big transfers the reason behind it is Arne Slot doesn't want more players, he can test the existing players first and that's not bad at all after there is a shortage then Liverpool can transfer in the winter.
Generally, Arne Slot has no problem although he still doesn't sign any new player. He looks quite confident with the current squad of Liverpool. I also think Liverpool squad is good enough, they don't have small number of the players. But I think Liverpool striker isn't very impressive. If you remember the last season, Nunez still couldn't play as expected. He is even rumored to leave Liverpool but Arne Slot seems to keep him. I personally think that Arne Slot actually needs to sign a new top striker. They can't rely on Nunez that still can't play consistently.
As soon as Arne Slot just wants to keep the existing squad then he may be more confident than bringing in many players, but don't know behind the scenes.

Nunez is still not reliable so far I see he is still struggling to score many goals and for me Gakpo is better than Nunez.
This time it might be a little different, let's wait to see how he performs, maybe there will be an improvement.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1632 on: August 14, 2024, 07:46:24 PM »
So far, Im impressed with their performance In the Pre-season, and it's a good thing his players are getting to understand his tactics as fast as possible and that's the best time for him to familiarise with them, know their different characters on and off the pitch and even implement his own rules, something different from the previous coach, Arne Slot did something great at his previous team and although he's in a new environment with new squad he's got a squad that has quality players and that's to his advantage so getting the best out of them with his new strategy is what he needs to improve and so far it seems they're getting it right, but I'm wondering why they've failed to sign new players, they need new players to boost their depth against injury, that's something Slot needs to work on before the end of the transfer window.

Will Liverpool going to start the new season without a single new player?

Liverpool got the new manager but management does not support him by buying new players.
4 days to go and not a single signing. It's not a good sign
The Zubimmendi transfer mess-up should be a wake-up call to all Liverpool fans. If a player from a lower club like Real Sociedad can easily reject Liverpool's offer, it shows that there is a problem.

It's strange and at the same time I see it as good, it must be that the team is so well matched that it doesn't feel like it needs any more players, I like that , because firstly they will save and can improve even the salary expectations of each player , so in view of this I think they can give their best in this competition, both in the PL and in the UCL, therefore every time we go to see a game of theirs we can say with accuracy that it can be a better version of what Klopp had and in the preseason, although it was only a preseason, I saw them very well.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1633 on: August 14, 2024, 08:34:20 PM »
Liverpool are not shopping for players at the moment. but they got additional players who were promoted from Liverpool U21. He is Bobby Clark. And there are several players who have also come back after being loaned to other teams last season. Well, it doesn't seem like a big problem if Liverpool doesn't recruit new players. because Slot can better understand the existing squad without having to think about adapting a lot to new players. Man City also didn't move much in the transfer market this time. even though they still brought in 1 new player.
Liverpool still get problem for signing new players and rumor linked with Martín Zubimendi but the players had rejected and not interested for joining Liverpool because still want stay with Real Sociedad. Liverpool have many weakness side exactly with central forward has inconsistency performance from Darwin Nunez.
Face much problem later if transfer window close but Liverpool not sign yet any new player yet until right now, under Arne Slot not new players signing and seems Liverpool keep effective with current player after some players keep extend for next season.
I feel they are actually doing fine even if they don't add any new players to the team in the current transfer market. But much more thorough preparation is still needed. And bringing in new players could be a new force that could potentially bring Liverpool to better performance. Maybe the transfer market still has some time left before it closes. But Liverpool can still take advantage of the little time remaining if they are really serious about adding new players.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1634 on: August 14, 2024, 10:35:27 PM »
I don't see any problems between Arne Slot and his club management, it's fine, after all the squad is still solid so no players have been removed meaning they are still the same as last season.

It could be why Liverpool don't make big transfers the reason behind it is Arne Slot doesn't want more players, he can test the existing players first and that's not bad at all after there is a shortage then Liverpool can transfer in the winter.

Although we know that Liverpool players are still very good and experience but it would have make more sense or more helpful to the club if they had sign few players to the team because I could reflect back to the last season premier League when Liverpool started well but during the ending part of the season when they needed all the performance they could get most of there players could no longer perform well which cost them the premier League title.

Though I no that there new coach wants to try if he could convert the players to become what he intend for them but considering the facts that this premier League may possibly be more interesting more than the previous seasons he wo should have at least follow other clubs as they are buying some new players because for me I still believe that Liverpool needs more players.

 

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