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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1815 on: September 04, 2024, 08:54:36 PM »
What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.
Not sure Chelsea will have a chance to finish in the top 4 of the Premier League because the competition is quite tight in this league.

Chelsea's game is still inconsistent, today they can win big in the number of goals but in the following match with a low opponent they can struggle again to win, and this is often we see Chelsea like this where they cannot win consistently.

When Poch was better at the end of the season, but instead brought in Maresca, of course this is risky, therefore Chelsea must start again because the new coach needs time to be able to adjust to his players.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1816 on: September 04, 2024, 10:21:14 PM »
When Poch was better at the end of the season, but instead brought in Maresca, of course this is risky, therefore Chelsea must start again because the new coach needs time to be able to adjust to his players.
The new coach looks to be doing fine already, In the few games Chelsea have played, especially their second game of the season, they really moved the ball around well, and players like Palmer, Madueke, and Neto look very promising for the season. They may not be able to win the season, but they should at least be able to finish in the top five. If Chelsea do not finish in top 5 this season with the quality players they have, I will consider the coach to have failed.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1817 on: September 05, 2024, 12:08:32 AM »
We have a North London derby coming up next Sunday. Tottenham is playing against Arsenal.
Tottenham proved to be a dangerous team last season, but they have trouble stabilising their form right now. After an impressive 4-0 win over Everton, they lost to Newcastle despite being a more dominating team.
Of course bookies are favouring Arsenal with odds at x1.93 (for Tottenham: x3.85).
Arsenal's main rivals for the title race, Man City and Liverpool will both have easy home games the day before, so there will be extra pressure on the Gunners not to fall too much behind them in the table.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1818 on: September 05, 2024, 05:17:30 PM »
Not sure Chelsea will have a chance to finish in the top 4 of the Premier League because the competition is quite tight in this league.

Chelsea's game is still inconsistent, today they can win big in the number of goals but in the following match with a low opponent they can struggle again to win, and this is often we see Chelsea like this where they cannot win consistently.

When Poch was better at the end of the season, but instead brought in Maresca, of course this is risky, therefore Chelsea must start again because the new coach needs time to be able to adjust to his players.
Inconsistent performance in last three premier league matches I doubt Chelsea can reach the top fourth standings or UEFA Champion League spot in this season. Not difference yet Chelsea performance under Pochettino or Enzo Maresca because difficult to defend their consistent performance after bigger score winning against Wolves but easily being draw by Crystal Palace.
However the premier league match still on game week 3 and Chelsea opportunity opening large reach top fourth position, just waiting how to defend with consistent performance and get back Champion League spot place after absent almost three consecutives season.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1819 on: September 05, 2024, 06:39:20 PM »
When Poch was better at the end of the season, but instead brought in Maresca, of course this is risky, therefore Chelsea must start again because the new coach needs time to be able to adjust to his players.
The new coach looks to be doing fine already, In the few games Chelsea have played, especially their second game of the season, they really moved the ball around well, and players like Palmer, Madueke, and Neto look very promising for the season. They may not be able to win the season, but they should at least be able to finish in the top five. If Chelsea do not finish in top 5 this season with the quality players they have, I will consider the coach to have failed.
Actually we can't fully assess their performance this season, it takes more time for us to be better at making analysis. Chelsea started with their new coach, but the good performance shown by Pochettino.

It's actually quite unfortunate when they made a decision like that, because I think they also deserve to keep Pochettino. But all decisions have been taken and have also started for Chelsea and they have to show that it was the right decision.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1820 on: September 05, 2024, 06:54:03 PM »
When Poch was better at the end of the season, but instead brought in Maresca, of course this is risky, therefore Chelsea must start again because the new coach needs time to be able to adjust to his players.
The new coach looks to be doing fine already, In the few games Chelsea have played, especially their second game of the season, they really moved the ball around well, and players like Palmer, Madueke, and Neto look very promising for the season. They may not be able to win the season, but they should at least be able to finish in the top five. If Chelsea do not finish in top 5 this season with the quality players they have, I will consider the coach to have failed.
Actually we can't fully assess their performance this season, it takes more time for us to be better at making analysis. Chelsea started with their new coach, but the good performance shown by Pochettino.

It's actually quite unfortunate when they made a decision like that, because I think they also deserve to keep Pochettino. But all decisions have been taken and have also started for Chelsea and they have to show that it was the right decision.
I agree with you that Pocchetino should have been being given a second chance to see how the club performance would be like. He was a coach that took his time to understand the players and was working with that in order to improve the team performance which we saw the progress towards the end of the season. Maybe during when Chelsea was not performing well last season was when the management went for Maresca.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1821 on: September 05, 2024, 09:15:03 PM »
I agree with you that Pocchetino should have been being given a second chance to see how the club performance would be like. He was a coach that took his time to understand the players and was working with that in order to improve the team performance which we saw the progress towards the end of the season. Maybe during when Chelsea was not performing well last season was when the management went for Maresca.
Remember that Pocchetino at the beginning of the season was also not good enough they often lost to small teams, but my good performance came at the end which made the club management not see Pocchetino to be retained again.

Who knows Maresca at the start of the season was bad and they can fix it at the start of the season, as long as the Chelsea club gives the coach many opportunities I am sure Maresca will try to improve Chelsea's performance better, if judging at the beginning of the season then people will look bad.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1822 on: September 05, 2024, 09:48:39 PM »
Remember that Pocchetino at the beginning of the season was also not good enough they often lost to small teams, but my good performance came at the end which made the club management not see Pocchetino to be retained again.

Who knows Maresca at the start of the season was bad and they can fix it at the start of the season, as long as the Chelsea club gives the coach many opportunities I am sure Maresca will try to improve Chelsea's performance better, if judging at the beginning of the season then people will look bad.
The international break is on and for most coaches in the Premier League, they will be hoping that none of their players return with injuries, Chelsea already have some players who decline going to represent their country just so that they can be fit. Palmer, Foffana, and Gusto are on that list. If any Premier League team has any of their key players having injuries at this time in the season when it looks like the games and the position in tables have started shaping up, it will really affect the momentum that the team has built up.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1823 on: September 05, 2024, 11:43:10 PM »
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Clearly all your points are correct, Chelsea's management looks still kids how easily buying players with underrate values and give them long term contract. Chelsea become the only one Premier League team have many players in their squad recently 7 goals keeper although Kepa loan to Bournemouth.
Yes, they really only focus on collecting players, with surprising long-term contracts. However, they are not too serious about strengthening the team. Yes, although there are some pretty good purchases, but not spectacular with the funds they actually have. Even in the front line, they really failed to bring in players for a strong front line. There is only Marc Guiui who is an ordinary player. Fortunately, there is Pedro Neto in the Winger position that they got and they also retained Jaoa Felix. It's just that, they spent a total of €238.50m for expenditure, but did not get a really wow player.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1824 on: September 06, 2024, 03:48:42 PM »
Remember that Pocchetino at the beginning of the season was also not good enough they often lost to small teams, but my good performance came at the end which made the club management not see Pocchetino to be retained again.

Who knows Maresca at the start of the season was bad and they can fix it at the start of the season, as long as the Chelsea club gives the coach many opportunities I am sure Maresca will try to improve Chelsea's performance better, if judging at the beginning of the season then people will look bad.
The international break is on and for most coaches in the Premier League, they will be hoping that none of their players return with injuries, Chelsea already have some players who decline going to represent their country just so that they can be fit. Palmer, Foffana, and Gusto are on that list. If any Premier League team has any of their key players having injuries at this time in the season when it looks like the games and the position in tables have started shaping up, it will really affect the momentum that the team has built up.

The international break makes me bored, I'm eagerly anticipating the return of club football
I'm waiting for the weekend but there are no Premier League games. I hate it

Jadon Sancho has trained with Enzo Maresca and his staff during the international break.
He’s already in good shape and ready for his debut as a Chelsea player at the end of next and I hope Maresca will find renewed strength to finish everything he has started but I doubt it...

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1825 on: September 06, 2024, 04:52:34 PM »
The international break makes me bored, I'm eagerly anticipating the return of club football
I'm waiting for the weekend but there are no Premier League games. I hate it

Jadon Sancho has trained with Enzo Maresca and his staff during the international break.
He’s already in good shape and ready for his debut as a Chelsea player at the end of next and I hope Maresca will find renewed strength to finish everything he has started but I doubt it...
Surely, the international break make me boring what have to watch because the world cup qualifier match and UEFA Nation match not really interested yet. Have waiting one week later for premier league comeback because the international break have one match left for national teams playing on World Cup qualifier and UEFA Nation League match.

Good news for Chelsea fans with international break and they have enough time waiting for new recruitment Jadon Sancho make debut, have one week left and I believe Enzo Maresco will include him in the players list name for facing Bournemouth on upcoming match. Difficult for predicting will Jadon Sancho have good debut with Chelsea regarding current team performance still not consistent yet.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1826 on: September 06, 2024, 06:05:02 PM »
Actually we can't fully assess their performance this season, it takes more time for us to be better at making analysis. Chelsea started with their new coach, but the good performance shown by Pochettino.

It's actually quite unfortunate when they made a decision like that, because I think they also deserve to keep Pochettino. But all decisions have been taken and have also started for Chelsea and they have to show that it was the right decision.
I agree with you that Pocchetino should have been being given a second chance to see how the club performance would be like. He was a coach that took his time to understand the players and was working with that in order to improve the team performance which we saw the progress towards the end of the season. Maybe during when Chelsea was not performing well last season was when the management went for Maresca.
Chelsea is too hasty in making decisions, they want something instant to achieve success, and in football there is no instant way because they have to go through a process to be able to achieve success so that the achievements they achieve are not said to be luck.

Just imagine how many times in the last few seasons they have changed coaches, even with a very close distance, in my opinion that is something unwise especially if the coach can show good progress.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1827 on: September 06, 2024, 06:56:12 PM »
Remember that Pocchetino at the beginning of the season was also not good enough they often lost to small teams, but my good performance came at the end which made the club management not see Pocchetino to be retained again.

Who knows Maresca at the start of the season was bad and they can fix it at the start of the season, as long as the Chelsea club gives the coach many opportunities I am sure Maresca will try to improve Chelsea's performance better, if judging at the beginning of the season then people will look bad.
The international break is on and for most coaches in the Premier League, they will be hoping that none of their players return with injuries, Chelsea already have some players who decline going to represent their country just so that they can be fit. Palmer, Foffana, and Gusto are on that list. If any Premier League team has any of their key players having injuries at this time in the season when it looks like the games and the position in tables have started shaping up, it will really affect the momentum that the team has built up.
What the club is worried about from this international break is the fear of their key players getting injured and the disadvantage is that their club cannot play back because they have to miss.

But this is the call of their national team, if some players have refused then there are other reasons, if they want to defend their country then it is natural, but I hope there are no injuries from these international matches they return to the club back fit as ever.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1828 on: September 06, 2024, 08:23:41 PM »
Actually we can't fully assess their performance this season, it takes more time for us to be better at making analysis. Chelsea started with their new coach, but the good performance shown by Pochettino.

It's actually quite unfortunate when they made a decision like that, because I think they also deserve to keep Pochettino. But all decisions have been taken and have also started for Chelsea and they have to show that it was the right decision.

Pochettino had all the plate and meat together with knife on his hands and couldn't cook well disdh for Chelsea and I'm happy to see him get sack. You can't be incompetent at the beginning of the season only to be serious when the season was almost coming to the end, it doesn't work like that because the timing was wrong due to high expectations from Todd Boehly.

The coach also need to do everything in his right hands to put Chelsea in the limelight otherwise he also risk been sack. They have started well but the way they have loss and draw match is not cool, let it out win by win so they can stay above everyone on the table just like Liverpool and Manchester City.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1829 on: September 06, 2024, 10:05:15 PM »
When Poch was better at the end of the season, but instead brought in Maresca, of course this is risky, therefore Chelsea must start again because the new coach needs time to be able to adjust to his players.
The new coach looks to be doing fine already, In the few games Chelsea have played, especially their second game of the season, they really moved the ball around well, and players like Palmer, Madueke, and Neto look very promising for the season. They may not be able to win the season, but they should at least be able to finish in the top five. If Chelsea do not finish in top 5 this season with the quality players they have, I will consider the coach to have failed.
My thoughts are the same as yours if, at the very end of the season, Maresca fails to take Chelsea to the top positions of the PL table after all the signings of new players have been made. No excuses will be given by Maresca if that happens because he started coaching Chelsea at the start of the season, with new players set in, in the squad of Chelsea.

From what I have seen so far about Maresca, he is gradually taking Chelsea to a better team than they have before. However, Let's see how Enzo will take Chelsea to.

 

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