[Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread

[alltalk]

With all the conditions that exist at the MU club, it is not realistic to expect MU to compete for the title. All that can be expected from MU is to be able to get UCL tickets. But they can do it not only from the EPL. but MU also has a big opportunity by having to win the European League title. Ten Hag is increasingly doubtful at the moment. although the MU club does have several core players who are injured and unfortunately the ones who suffer the most injuries are their back line. And all of that makes MU really weak in defense at the moment.

Exactly. Man United isn't likely to compete for the EPL title. But they will focus to compete for another domestic competition, FA Cup and EFL Cup. Maybe Man United can get a title in these competitions. 

I don't see any big progress in Man United performance. Man United performance is still inconsistently. I think it is time for Man United to consider firing Ten Hag. Man United board already give him a too long time managing Man United. If Man United still keeps him as a coach, there will be no change in Man United performance.

[koang]

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Good news for Chelsea fans with international break and they have enough time waiting for new recruitment Jadon Sancho make debut, have one week left and I believe Enzo Maresco will include him in the players list name for facing Bournemouth on upcoming match. Difficult for predicting will Jadon Sancho have good debut with Chelsea regarding current team performance still not consistent yet.

Training hard to lose again? Just kidding
I have so much belief Jadon will come playing well, Jadon will be an asset to Chelsea and I hope He will start against Bournemouth
And I genuinely think Reece James would be the most suitable inverted Fullback option for Enzo Maresca, can’t wait until he’s back fully fit
I really hope he'll be fine and stays fit for Chelsea this season

[ajiz138]

Actually we can't fully assess their performance this season, it takes more time for us to be better at making analysis. Chelsea started with their new coach, but the good performance shown by Pochettino.

It's actually quite unfortunate when they made a decision like that, because I think they also deserve to keep Pochettino. But all decisions have been taken and have also started for Chelsea and they have to show that it was the right decision.

Pochettino had all the plate and meat together with knife on his hands and couldn't cook well disdh for Chelsea and I'm happy to see him get sack. You can't be incompetent at the beginning of the season only to be serious when the season was almost coming to the end, it doesn't work like that because the timing was wrong due to high expectations from Todd Boehly.

The coach also need to do everything in his right hands to put Chelsea in the limelight otherwise he also risk been sack. They have started well but the way they have loss and draw match is not cool, let it out win by win so they can stay above everyone on the table just like Liverpool and Manchester City.

Everyone will want the best for their team, but the problem is that it cannot be done in a very short time. Can Pep Guardiola be successful with Manchester City in the last few years and can immediately show the game as good as now at the beginning of his coaching? I don't think so.

Coaches are not magicians who can immediately show the game of the team they handle, they will need time to get to know and be able to find the best strategy, once again they are not magicians.

[bounceback]

Exactly. Man United isn't likely to compete for the EPL title. But they will focus to compete for another domestic competition, FA Cup and EFL Cup. Maybe Man United can get a title in these competitions. 

I don't see any big progress in Man United performance. Man United performance is still inconsistently. I think it is time for Man United to consider firing Ten Hag. Man United board already give him a too long time managing Man United. If Man United still keeps him as a coach, there will be no change in Man United performance.

Become the winner FA Cup and Carabao Cup is most superior for Manchester United achievement than winning premier league trophy or get top fourth standings finish.
I don't know how long Manchester United not winning Premier League trophy and how many manager sacked after last time winning the EPL tittle.
In this season not big progress put Manchester United on the top list for winning Premier League trophy, bad performance in last several matches I think difficult not only get winning trophy but also how possibility reach the top fourth standings position.

[salad daging]

Exactly. Man United isn't likely to compete for the EPL title. But they will focus to compete for another domestic competition, FA Cup and EFL Cup. Maybe Man United can get a title in these competitions. 

I don't see any big progress in Man United performance. Man United performance is still inconsistently. I think it is time for Man United to consider firing Ten Hag. Man United board already give him a too long time managing Man United. If Man United still keeps him as a coach, there will be no change in Man United performance.

Become the winner FA Cup and Carabao Cup is most superior for Manchester United achievement than winning premier league trophy or get top fourth standings finish.
I don't know how long Manchester United not winning Premier League trophy and how many manager sacked after last time winning the EPL tittle.
In this season not big progress put Manchester United on the top list for winning Premier League trophy, bad performance in last several matches I think difficult not only get winning trophy but also how possibility reach the top fourth standings position.

Since Sir Alex Ferguson left his club no longer won the Premier League trophy, there have been many changes of coach there is no change at all except for a few trophies under the Premier League cup.

Why Manchester United has no progress because it always maintains the current coach, Erik Ten Hag, he is no longer able to save his team for the top 4 let alone winning the English league will be very difficult to see the current performance.

[Sim_card]

Exactly. Man United isn't likely to compete for the EPL title. But they will focus to compete for another domestic competition, FA Cup and EFL Cup. Maybe Man United can get a title in these competitions. 

I don't see any big progress in Man United performance. Man United performance is still inconsistently. I think it is time for Man United to consider firing Ten Hag. Man United board already give him a too long time managing Man United. If Man United still keeps him as a coach, there will be no change in Man United performance.

Become the winner FA Cup and Carabao Cup is most superior for Manchester United achievement than winning premier league trophy or get top fourth standings finish.
I don't know how long Manchester United not winning Premier League trophy and how many manager sacked after last time winning the EPL tittle.
In this season not big progress put Manchester United on the top list for winning Premier League trophy, bad performance in last several matches I think difficult not only get winning trophy but also how possibility reach the top fourth standings position.

Since Sir Alex Ferguson left his club no longer won the Premier League trophy, there have been many changes of coach there is no change at all except for a few trophies under the Premier League cup.

Why Manchester United has no progress because it always maintains the current coach, Erik Ten Hag, he is no longer able to save his team for the top 4 let alone winning the English league will be very difficult to see the current performance.

It would be a dream for anybody to think that Ten Hag would be able to win EPL title for Manchester united with his current way of coaching the boys. He has no direction or creativity in him and in every match he plays something different. A new coach needs to take over from Ten Hag if United wants to win EPL.

[KingsDen]

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Good news for Chelsea fans with international break and they have enough time waiting for new recruitment Jadon Sancho make debut, have one week left and I believe Enzo Maresco will include him in the players list name for facing Bournemouth on upcoming match. Difficult for predicting will Jadon Sancho have good debut with Chelsea regarding current team performance still not consistent yet.

Training hard to lose again? Just kidding
I have so much belief Jadon will come playing well, Jadon will be an asset to Chelsea and I hope He will start against Bournemouth
And I genuinely think Reece James would be the most suitable inverted Fullback option for Enzo Maresca, can’t wait until he’s back fully fit
I really hope he'll be fine and stays fit for Chelsea this season

I don't know why Chelsea supporters are always optimistic of their new strikers to fixture in the play. It is not only their new strikers but all their new signings. I think Chelsea have signed so many players that at this time they should not be so much obsessed with signing more players or expecting a player to fixture in a play. I do not think that Jordan Sancho will make first eleven in the Chelsea squad and even if he does, he will not make a difference.

I even think that the more players Chelsea coach sign, the more confused he'll become. It is better few but quality than large but non quality.

[pawel7777]

Given we have a break in league games for the international games and there are no games to discuss this weekend, I'll ask a different question: do you guys see any potential dark horse this season, i.e. a team that people do not expect too much from, but can turn up surprising everyone e.g. by ending up in the top 4 etc?
Could Brighton be such a team? So far, they recorded an easy win over Everton, a win against Man United and scored a point against Arsenal in an away game, which currently places them in the 3rd place. They also crushed Crawley Town (a League One team) 4-0 in an EFL Cup game.
Their manager, Fabian Hurzeler, got nominated for the Manager of the Month award.

[koang]

I don't know why Chelsea supporters are always optimistic of their new strikers to fixture in the play. It is not only their new strikers but all their new signings. I think Chelsea have signed so many players that at this time they should not be so much obsessed with signing more players or expecting a player to fixture in a play. I do not think that Jordan Sancho will make first eleven in the Chelsea squad and even if he does, he will not make a difference.

I even think that the more players Chelsea coach sign, the more confused he'll become. It is better few but quality than large but non quality.

I'm not a Chelsea fan so I don't know what makes them so optimistic but as a football lover, I think your opinion is valid.

Todd Boehly probably sees Chelsea as the Arsenal situation and how they gave Arteta time with his young players and saw him succeed after time.
Unfortunately, when Boehly bought Chelsea, he refused to work with the existing board, which is important to understand the club's culture.
He hurriedly sacked Marina Granovskaia and Bruce Buck.
Chelsea has broken records in the transfer market but things are not getting better
So The only person holding Chelsea's success or failure now is Boehly. IMO

[Uruhara]

With all the conditions that exist at the MU club, it is not realistic to expect MU to compete for the title. All that can be expected from MU is to be able to get UCL tickets. But they can do it not only from the EPL. but MU also has a big opportunity by having to win the European League title. Ten Hag is increasingly doubtful at the moment. although the MU club does have several core players who are injured and unfortunately the ones who suffer the most injuries are their back line. And all of that makes MU really weak in defense at the moment.

Exactly. Man United isn't likely to compete for the EPL title. But they will focus to compete for another domestic competition, FA Cup and EFL Cup. Maybe Man United can get a title in these competitions. 

I don't see any big progress in Man United performance. Man United performance is still inconsistently. I think it is time for Man United to consider firing Ten Hag. Man United board already give him a too long time managing Man United. If Man United still keeps him as a coach, there will be no change in Man United performance.

Well that's right. I think the club should really stop expecting Ten Hag to work miracles in the Man Utd squad. Because until now we haven't seen it at all. In the first season they looked like they would be successful. but in the second season they really became the worst. And now in the third season I think many people doubt them. It would be very disappointing if Man Utd continued to have poor performance but Ten Hag was retained.

[Themepen]

Given we have a break in league games for the international games and there are no games to discuss this weekend, I'll ask a different question: do you guys see any potential dark horse this season, i.e. a team that people do not expect too much from, but can turn up surprising everyone e.g. by ending up in the top 4 etc?
Could Brighton be such a team? So far, they recorded an easy win over Everton, a win against Man United and scored a point against Arsenal in an away game, which currently places them in the 3rd place. They also crushed Crawley Town (a League One team) 4-0 in an EFL Cup game.
Their manager, Fabian Hurzeler, got nominated for the Manager of the Month award.

I think Brighton could be surprise team this season. They have had some great results so far like beating Everton and Manchester United and even drawing with Arsenal when they played away. This has put them in third place which is great start. They also won easily against Crawley Town in EFL Cup which is another good sign.

Their manager Fabian Hurzeler has even been nominated for award which shows he is doing great job. It is still early in season but Brighton is off to strong start and they might even finish in top four which would be surprise to many.

[Amphenomenon]

With all the conditions that exist at the MU club, it is not realistic to expect MU to compete for the title. All that can be expected from MU is to be able to get UCL tickets. But they can do it not only from the EPL. but MU also has a big opportunity by having to win the European League title. Ten Hag is increasingly doubtful at the moment. although the MU club does have several core players who are injured and unfortunately the ones who suffer the most injuries are their back line. And all of that makes MU really weak in defense at the moment.

Exactly. Man United isn't likely to compete for the EPL title. But they will focus to compete for another domestic competition, FA Cup and EFL Cup. Maybe Man United can get a title in these competitions. 

This, thou I think they not be able to win it depending on who they face, because while there haven't been much changes on their performance other teams have been having a positive growth notably Aston Villa.

I don't see any big progress in Man United performance. Man United performance is still inconsistently. I think it is time for Man United to consider firing Ten Hag. Man United board already give him a too long time managing Man United. If Man United still keeps him as a coach, there will be no change in Man United performance.

Except Ten Hag wake up to reality and stop being prideful because of the Carabao and Fa cup these past 2 seasons and see there haven't been any notably improved on his team performance, I think he will continue to lead Manchester United in a very dark past with no hope of them becoming who they were, now we can't blame the management after support from Jim now, he is up to him he got the squad he wants and still continue to feel he I above criticism

[Uruhara]

Except Ten Hag wake up to reality and stop being prideful because of the Carabao and Fa cup these past 2 seasons and see there haven't been any notably improved on his team performance, I think he will continue to lead Manchester United in a very dark past with no hope of them becoming who they were, now we can't blame the management after support from Jim now, he is up to him he got the squad he wants and still continue to feel he I above criticism

Your words really represent what I think about ten hag. because this coach must immediately realize that he is not the best coach. He hasn't even been able to build a squad properly. He is like a coach who is not ready to manage a team filled with many star players. I remember when Ten hag before going to Man United. he is indeed a great coach. But at that time he did not manage many star players in the team he coached. Ajax is a big team too, but there are not many star players like in premier league teams like Man Utd.

[Sim_card]

Exactly. Man United isn't likely to compete for the EPL title. But they will focus to compete for another domestic competition, FA Cup and EFL Cup. Maybe Man United can get a title in these competitions. 

I don't see any big progress in Man United performance. Man United performance is still inconsistently. I think it is time for Man United to consider firing Ten Hag. Man United board already give him a too long time managing Man United. If Man United still keeps him as a coach, there will be no change in Man United performance.

Become the winner FA Cup and Carabao Cup is most superior for Manchester United achievement than winning premier league trophy or get top fourth standings finish.
I don't know how long Manchester United not winning Premier League trophy and how many manager sacked after last time winning the EPL tittle.
In this season not big progress put Manchester United on the top list for winning Premier League trophy, bad performance in last several matches I think difficult not only get winning trophy but also how possibility reach the top fourth standings position.

Since Sir Alex Ferguson left his club no longer won the Premier League trophy, there have been many changes of coach there is no change at all except for a few trophies under the Premier League cup.

Why Manchester United has no progress because it always maintains the current coach, Erik Ten Hag, he is no longer able to save his team for the top 4 let alone winning the English league will be very difficult to see the current performance.

Ten Hag was lucky to win FA Cup last season and that was why the management decided to keep him to see of they can get the players that Ten Hag needs to assist him but it is like it was a waste of time and resources because he hasn't shown any improvement on the team.

[bounceback]

Ten Hag was lucky to win FA Cup last season and that was why the management decided to keep him to see of they can get the players that Ten Hag needs to assist him but it is like it was a waste of time and resources because he hasn't shown any improvement on the team.

Its most luckiness for Erik ten Hag after winning FA Cup last season and secure his position as Manchester United manager although failure reach UEFA Champion  League spot place. I don't sure with his position keep as Manchester United manager if failure for winning the FA Cup because many huge pressure for him with Manchester United result achievement last season.
But his position not always secure because Manchester United keep in downtrend performance and loss two matches in last three matches, its not sure until how many games later keep secure his position if Manchester United performance keep inconsistent.