[Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread

[koang]

They lost the match which is a very disappointing result for them, losing at Od Trafford now seem like the usual thing now. We don’t know there performance have not been improving for a while now despite signing in new players every season, the coach needs to be questioned in my opinion because it seems he is not managing the players well as he should.

Garnacho was the best player for United yesterday but all his efforts couldn’t yield anything because Tottenham defense was rock solid and the red card also affected United as well but they still need to work hard and improve their game.

United has started poor, kicking the ball away and defending poorly, results bettering the opposition's hunger.
Bruno wasn’t supposed to start, Ten Hag could have brought on Mainoo, Zirkzee, and Ugarte all to play a No.8 role which left the midfield exposed, and when Mainoo left the pitch that was when Casemiro had to come on, but Ten Hag brought on Mount. lol
And the worst part is he will still survive the sack.

[babo]

The common crisis-dwelling in Manchester United for a long time is finding the right coach, the moment that is done, I believe the crisis will be minimized.

Manchester United has been in a difficult position to find the right coach since Sir Alex Ferguson's retirement. It all seems that there's no better replacement since then to take Manchester United to the dream heights of winning the PL title once again. Ten Hag who was given another opportunity instead of sacking him last season, is making the crisis in the team persist, not like something that is stopping very soon.

The coach present now has been coaching the team for 2 years now, and the results are lacking.
I don't want to think badly, but I don't see a long future for him on the Manchester United bench.
Maybe I'm wrong, but the team has the money to fix everything, which I remember is one of the richest teams in Europe.

[Uruhara]

United has started poor, kicking the ball away and defending poorly, results bettering the opposition's hunger.
Bruno wasn’t supposed to start, Ten Hag could have brought on Mainoo, Zirkzee, and Ugarte all to play a No.8 role which left the midfield exposed, and when Mainoo left the pitch that was when Casemiro had to come on, but Ten Hag brought on Mount. lol
And the worst part is he will still survive the sack.

yeah it's true they got off to a bad start. this is the same as last season. I don't think the problem is with the players. Because what is clear is that Ten Hag was the one who was unable to create a good strategy for the club. Bruno Fernandes was a great player when he played for the Portugal national team. Even though sometimes he is a little selfish, he actually has qualities. But when he was at Man Utd we saw Bruno Fernandes become different. It's like he's not himself. And that happened not only to this player but also to other great players. We remember that Casemiro before going to Man Utd was a great player at Real Madrid. but after he came to Man utd. Well as it seems. He even makes blunders quite often. something similar happened to Onana and the others. Man Utd needs big changes. And the changes weren't even limited to firing ten Hag.

[Nheer]

They lost the match which is a very disappointing result for them, losing at Od Trafford now seem like the usual thing now. We don’t know there performance have not been improving for a while now despite signing in new players every season, the coach needs to be questioned in my opinion because it seems he is not managing the players well as he should.

Garnacho was the best player for United yesterday but all his efforts couldn’t yield anything because Tottenham defense was rock solid and the red card also affected United as well but they still need to work hard and improve their game.

United has started poor, kicking the ball away and defending poorly, results bettering the opposition's hunger.
Bruno wasn’t supposed to start, Ten Hag could have brought on Mainoo, Zirkzee, and Ugarte all to play a No.8 role which left the midfield exposed, and when Mainoo left the pitch that was when Casemiro had to come on, but Ten Hag brought on Mount. lol
And the worst part is he will still survive the sack.

Surviving the sack is what pains everyone the most because he has show how poor he is at managing the team times without number so i don’t know why the management is taking long to finalize his sack.

The midfield was too exposed so it was very easy for Tottenham to penetrate and cause harm, Maddison was having too much space in the midfield and we all know what he is capable of doing if given so much space. Ten Hag needs to take control of the team and work on the players to improve as soon as possible else with their performance they might end up the relegation zone.

[bounceback]

Manchester United is also in crisis. He only has 7 points and is at the bottom of the table
It's been years now since he's risen to important positions and I'm a little disappointed about this, I loved Manchester United in the days of Giggs and others
Giggs was one of my favorites among other things, of the red furies

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Giggs

Manchester United have remaining many points left from the top standings position and not sure if not any improvement yet have opportunity will reach the UEFA Champion League spot position. Have been two consecutives season for Manchester United not participants in Champion League but under Erik ten Hag many people doubt about his reputation after failure in last two consecutives season.
The premier league have played 6 matches and Manchester United have bigger opportunity reach the higher standings but keep defend Erik ten Hag as manager I think difficult for Manchester United have better performance.

[Tribalchief]

Manchester United is also in crisis. He only has 7 points and is at the bottom of the table
It's been years now since he's risen to important positions and I'm a little disappointed about this, I loved Manchester United in the days of Giggs and others
Giggs was one of my favorites among other things, of the red furies

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Giggs

Manchester United have remaining many points left from the top standings position and not sure if not any improvement yet have opportunity will reach the UEFA Champion League spot position. Have been two consecutives season for Manchester United not participants in Champion League but under Erik ten Hag many people doubt about his reputation after failure in last two consecutives season.
The premier league have played 6 matches and Manchester United have bigger opportunity reach the higher standings but keep defend Erik ten Hag as manager I think difficult for Manchester United have better performance.

I seriously doubt if united can fight for the top four spot this season, considering that we are already sure of two teams that have a 60%-70% chance of making it, and two to three other teams that have good chance of securing the two other slots. And at the same time, I don't really fancy the idea of changing a manager. Even though I'm not a fan of united, I really enjoyed ten hag's first season at the club, though things started taking turns towards the end of his first season at the club, but he ended up winning something.

What I personally feel that ten had has issue with is his choice of selection. He is quite poor at making selection, and most of the fans don't even understand his kind of game. Using pep as an example, we all know that he plays more of attack, while risking the backline, which cause city to always concede goals even though they end up winning. But ten hag on the other hand don't really have a good game plan. I personally don't understand why he choose to bench a player like garnacho in some games, when there is a certain playing that doesn't show any character of passion towards football. Ten hag needs to be decisive.

[Sim_card]

Manchester United is also in crisis. He only has 7 points and is at the bottom of the table
It's been years now since he's risen to important positions and I'm a little disappointed about this, I loved Manchester United in the days of Giggs and others
Giggs was one of my favorites among other things, of the red furies

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Giggs

Manchester United have remaining many points left from the top standings position and not sure if not any improvement yet have opportunity will reach the UEFA Champion League spot position. Have been two consecutives season for Manchester United not participants in Champion League but under Erik ten Hag many people doubt about his reputation after failure in last two consecutives season.
The premier league have played 6 matches and Manchester United have bigger opportunity reach the higher standings but keep defend Erik ten Hag as manager I think difficult for Manchester United have better performance.

I seriously doubt if united can fight for the top four spot this season, considering that we are already sure of two teams that have a 60%-70% chance of making it, and two to three other teams that have good chance of securing the two other slots. And at the same time, I don't really fancy the idea of changing a manager. Even though I'm not a fan of united, I really enjoyed ten hag's first season at the club, though things started taking turns towards the end of his first season at the club, but he ended up winning something.

What I personally feel that ten had has issue with is his choice of selection. He is quite poor at making selection, and most of the fans don't even understand his kind of game. Using pep as an example, we all know that he plays more of attack, while risking the backline, which cause city to always concede goals even though they end up winning. But ten hag on the other hand don't really have a good game plan. I personally don't understand why he choose to bench a player like garnacho in some games, when there is a certain playing that doesn't show any character of passion towards football. Ten hag needs to be decisive.

It is doesn't know he right selection to make men that he is incompetent for not knowing the capability and strength of his players. Ten Hag does not have any game strategy which makes him not to know the right players to choose because if he has, then he should know the right players that will fit into making the strategy work. This is why he doesn't deserve to be a coach of United because the club is bigger than his small brain.

[Asiska02]

United has started poor, kicking the ball away and defending poorly, results bettering the opposition's hunger.
Bruno wasn’t supposed to start, Ten Hag could have brought on Mainoo, Zirkzee, and Ugarte all to play a No.8 role which left the midfield exposed, and when Mainoo left the pitch that was when Casemiro had to come on, but Ten Hag brought on Mount. lol
And the worst part is he will still survive the sack.

Calling for a sack for Eric Ten Hag is not something I feel it’s going to happen anytime from now. It seems the management still believes in his strategy and ability to make Manchester United better in the league. Just like last season, he was not doing well in the early times in the league and was only productive when the league had gone far. Expectations are that he should perform better than last season and at least finish in the top four of the table. This is expected from him  and I hope he’s able to deliver or he might risk being sacked from his position. He still has a long time to the end of the season but it’s better for him to start now and show that he can really deliver well the task given to him as the head coach of Manchester United.

[pawel7777]

So here we go again, a new wave of main stream media speculating on Ten Hag's future, following the 0-3 loss at home to Tottenham, has surfaced today:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/13225263/erik-ten-hag-why-are-manchester-united-and-ineos-continuing-to-back-the-dutchman-in-face-of-such-adversity
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13912787/Erik-ten-Hag-lacks-fire-PASSION-claims-former-Man-United-coach.html
https://metro.co.uk/2024/10/01/sir-alex-ferguson-recommends-manager-man-utd-erik-ten-hag-replacement-21716385/

There's not much joy in the fact that Fernandes' red card got overturned by the FA and he'll be able to play in the upcoming games. After 6 rounds, United are on the 13th place, and there's no sign this will improve anytime soon. This is of course unacceptable for a 2nd richest club in the EPL.

[MainIbem]

United has started poor, kicking the ball away and defending poorly, results bettering the opposition's hunger.
Bruno wasn’t supposed to start, Ten Hag could have brought on Mainoo, Zirkzee, and Ugarte all to play a No.8 role which left the midfield exposed, and when Mainoo left the pitch that was when Casemiro had to come on, but Ten Hag brought on Mount. lol
And the worst part is he will still survive the sack.

Calling for a sack for Eric Ten Hag is not something I feel it’s going to happen anytime from now. It seems the management still believes in his strategy and ability to make Manchester United better in the league. Just like last season, he was not doing well in the early times in the league and was only productive when the league had gone far. Expectations are that he should perform better than last season and at least finish in the top four of the table. This is expected from him  and I hope he’s able to deliver or he might risk being sacked from his position. He still has a long time to the end of the season but it’s better for him to start now and show that he can really deliver well the task given to him as the head coach of Manchester United.

I don't think Erik Ten Hag would be sacked by the board currently, they've noticed his incompetence and lack of strategies but they might wait until January or next season to do that cause paying him off would cost a lot based on his recent contract, Erik Ten Hag have few matches to prove himself else the board might be forced to sack him by Jan regardless of the pay off amount. I saw in a news that they've lined three coaches for his replacement namely Xabi Alonso,  Kieran McKenna and Ruben Amorin these are three good modern coaches but I think Amorin and Alonso are more experienced and either of them would be preferable to McKenna, there would be lots of pressure on Erik Ten Hag currently and he has to up his game to maintain his position.

[Zed0X]

So here we go again, a new wave of main stream media speculating on Ten Hag's future, following the 0-3 loss at home to Tottenham, has surfaced today:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/13225263/erik-ten-hag-why-are-manchester-united-and-ineos-continuing-to-back-the-dutchman-in-face-of-such-adversity
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13912787/Erik-ten-Hag-lacks-fire-PASSION-claims-former-Man-United-coach.html
https://metro.co.uk/2024/10/01/sir-alex-ferguson-recommends-manager-man-utd-erik-ten-hag-replacement-21716385/

There's not much joy in the fact that Fernandes' red card got overturned by the FA and he'll be able to play in the upcoming games. After 6 rounds, United are on the 13th place, and there's no sign this will improve anytime soon. This is of course unacceptable for a 2nd richest club in the EPL.

According to one of the articles, he has two games to turn things around and save his job eh? Well, that's probably more than enough to show he still has what it takes. Winning both games (against Porto and Villa) is the least he could do because the MU board has been lenient on him.

It's not surprising to see SAF recommend another fiery manager as replacement

[koang]

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yeah it's true they got off to a bad start. this is the same as last season. I don't think the problem is with the players. Because what is clear is that Ten Hag was the one who was unable to create a good strategy for the club. Bruno Fernandes was a great player when he played for the Portugal national team. Even though sometimes he is a little selfish, he actually has qualities. But when he was at Man Utd we saw Bruno Fernandes become different. It's like he's not himself. And that happened not only to this player but also to other great players. We remember that Casemiro before going to Man Utd was a great player at Real Madrid. but after he came to Man utd. Well as it seems. He even makes blunders quite often. something similar happened to Onana and the others. Man Utd needs big changes. And the changes weren't even limited to firing ten Hag.

Last season was a repeat and the results of this match have added pressure on the management and executives.
But I am happy the ban for Bruno Fernandes has been overturned, following an appeal.
For the FA to rule in United’s favor it just shows how awful a decision that was by the referee. United were poor until the red but the card robbed of any chance of getting something out of the game.
On the other hand, I wanted him to take that important rest, This guy has been playing every game for four years.
I'm not taking anything from him overall though, he’s been great for United since joining.

[bounceback]

So here we go again, a new wave of main stream media speculating on Ten Hag's future, following the 0-3 loss at home to Tottenham, has surfaced today:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/13225263/erik-ten-hag-why-are-manchester-united-and-ineos-continuing-to-back-the-dutchman-in-face-of-such-adversity
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13912787/Erik-ten-Hag-lacks-fire-PASSION-claims-former-Man-United-coach.html
https://metro.co.uk/2024/10/01/sir-alex-ferguson-recommends-manager-man-utd-erik-ten-hag-replacement-21716385/

There's not much joy in the fact that Fernandes' red card got overturned by the FA and he'll be able to play in the upcoming games. After 6 rounds, United are on the 13th place, and there's no sign this will improve anytime soon. This is of course unacceptable for a 2nd richest club in the EPL.

Good news for Manchester United after red card receiving by Bruno Fernandez when facing Tottenham Hotspur have been appeal and he can plays for upcoming match against Aston Villa. Bad trend performance make Manchester United have huge pressure exactly for Erik ten Hag how difficulty bring the United back to the top fourth position.
In this middle week Manchester United will face FC Porto and its can't guarantee he will sack from his position although failure from secure three points on UEFA Europe League match.

[ajiz138]

United has started poor, kicking the ball away and defending poorly, results bettering the opposition's hunger.
Bruno wasn’t supposed to start, Ten Hag could have brought on Mainoo, Zirkzee, and Ugarte all to play a No.8 role which left the midfield exposed, and when Mainoo left the pitch that was when Casemiro had to come on, but Ten Hag brought on Mount. lol
And the worst part is he will still survive the sack.

Calling for a sack for Eric Ten Hag is not something I feel it’s going to happen anytime from now. It seems the management still believes in his strategy and ability to make Manchester United better in the league. Just like last season, he was not doing well in the early times in the league and was only productive when the league had gone far. Expectations are that he should perform better than last season and at least finish in the top four of the table. This is expected from him  and I hope he’s able to deliver or he might risk being sacked from his position. He still has a long time to the end of the season but it’s better for him to start now and show that he can really deliver well the task given to him as the head coach of Manchester United.

Yes, it seems they still have enough faith in Erik Ten Hag that they are still retaining a coach who has received a lot of harsh criticism from many people.

How long will they give him a chance? That must be a question that many people will ask. Because he has had a long enough chance in my opinion. Now at the beginning of this season he has not given anything that can be expected, so I feel strange with the decision taken by Manchester United.

[Sharelock]

United has started poor, kicking the ball away and defending poorly, results bettering the opposition's hunger.
Bruno wasn’t supposed to start, Ten Hag could have brought on Mainoo, Zirkzee, and Ugarte all to play a No.8 role which left the midfield exposed, and when Mainoo left the pitch that was when Casemiro had to come on, but Ten Hag brought on Mount. lol
And the worst part is he will still survive the sack.

Calling for a sack for Eric Ten Hag is not something I feel it’s going to happen anytime from now. It seems the management still believes in his strategy and ability to make Manchester United better in the league. Just like last season, he was not doing well in the early times in the league and was only productive when the league had gone far. Expectations are that he should perform better than last season and at least finish in the top four of the table. This is expected from him  and I hope he’s able to deliver or he might risk being sacked from his position. He still has a long time to the end of the season but it’s better for him to start now and show that he can really deliver well the task given to him as the head coach of Manchester United.

Yes, it seems they still have enough faith in Erik Ten Hag that they are still retaining a coach who has received a lot of harsh criticism from many people.

How long will they give him a chance? That must be a question that many people will ask. Because he has had a long enough chance in my opinion. Now at the beginning of this season he has not given anything that can be expected, so I feel strange with the decision taken by Manchester United.

The reason is quite simple that Man Utd management does not know how to manage a team. So they choose to trust Ten Hag to help Man Utd get good results. But MU management's trust looks very bad and cannot see what the team needs right now. The future of the red devils is threatened.