[Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread

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But that's what Borussia Dortmund is like, it wouldn't be Borussia Dortmund if they didn't sell their star players. They actually have a very good ability to find new talent, but they only use it for their business interests.

Dortmund has been famous like that for a long time. For some reason, they often sell talented players, whatever the condition. And after moving from Dortmund, many of these players skyrocketed their careers and even became top players who were always introduced by their new clubs. And again, Dortmund will remain like that.

But after they reach the UCL final this season, will they also do the same thing by selling their own players who are being targeted by other clubs? Hmmm, maybe this business is more promising.

Borussia Dortmund can only stay where they are because of their own actions, I mean when they want to change their current habits then I'm sure they will be able to do better than what we see from them now.

You are right, several of the players sold by Borussia Dortmund became stars in their respective teams. The latest is Jude Bellingham who performed very well and could contribute to bringing Real Madrid to the Champions League title.

[Uruhara]

Borussia Dortmund can only stay where they are because of their own actions, I mean when they want to change their current habits then I'm sure they will be able to do better than what we see from them now.

You are right, several of the players sold by Borussia Dortmund became stars in their respective teams. The latest is Jude Bellingham who performed very well and could contribute to bringing Real Madrid to the Champions League title.

Dortmund is very good at finding potential players who can be developed into star players. And every player who develops at that club ultimately becomes a star player at the other club that brought him in. Jude Bellingham and Haaland have been the most prominent in this regard in recent seasons. If this team chooses to retain every potential player they have managed to collect then perhaps Dortmund will indeed be a strong contender again in the UCL next season. But it's not surprising that Dortmund always sell their players who are improving their performance.

[UNIVERSE]

Dortmund is very good at finding potential players who can be developed into star players. And every player who develops at that club ultimately becomes a star player at the other club that brought him in. Jude Bellingham and Haaland have been the most prominent in this regard in recent seasons. If this team chooses to retain every potential player they have managed to collect then perhaps Dortmund will indeed be a strong contender again in the UCL next season. But it's not surprising that Dortmund always sell their players who are improving their performance.

Dortmund has great scouts, that's probably the reason why they always can get potential players. They also have good trainers, they know how to optimize the ability of the players. Sure, there are already many big players from Dortmund. Haaland, Bellingham, Lewandowski, and many other big players. However, they never try to keep the players for a long time, they often sell the players when they have good market values.

Dortmund understand that it is better to sell the players because they can find out other new potential players. Dortmund also don't want to keep them a long time because they may ask for huge salaries at Dortmund. Dortmund may have no big funds to pay their players with big salaries. So, the best option is to sell them.

[armanda90]

Borussia Dortmund can only stay where they are because of their own actions, I mean when they want to change their current habits then I'm sure they will be able to do better than what we see from them now.

You are right, several of the players sold by Borussia Dortmund became stars in their respective teams. The latest is Jude Bellingham who performed very well and could contribute to bringing Real Madrid to the Champions League title.

Dortmund is very good at finding potential players who can be developed into star players. And every player who develops at that club ultimately becomes a star player at the other club that brought him in. Jude Bellingham and Haaland have been the most prominent in this regard in recent seasons. If this team chooses to retain every potential player they have managed to collect then perhaps Dortmund will indeed be a strong contender again in the UCL next season. But it's not surprising that Dortmund always sell their players who are improving their performance.

Dortmund is very promising team for developing star players and every season always earned much profit after promoting their youth player to senior team and has huge amount for transfer values to sell them. Jude Bellingham and Haaland as the last two players reach above 100 million euro of their values and Dortmund earned much profitable by selling both of them to Manchester City and Real Madrid.
But the habit of Dortmund more prepare sell their star player for selling make them difficult compete in domestic league although in this season success qualified until final round in champion league but their performance in domestic league out expectation by finish on 5th standings place.

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Borussia Dortmund can only stay where they are because of their own actions, I mean when they want to change their current habits then I'm sure they will be able to do better than what we see from them now.

You are right, several of the players sold by Borussia Dortmund became stars in their respective teams. The latest is Jude Bellingham who performed very well and could contribute to bringing Real Madrid to the Champions League title.

Dortmund is very good at finding potential players who can be developed into star players. And every player who develops at that club ultimately becomes a star player at the other club that brought him in. Jude Bellingham and Haaland have been the most prominent in this regard in recent seasons. If this team chooses to retain every potential player they have managed to collect then perhaps Dortmund will indeed be a strong contender again in the UCL next season. But it's not surprising that Dortmund always sell their players who are improving their performance.

Yes, they are one of the teams with the ability to find very good new seeds. They are very sharp in seeing the potential of a player and making him a very valuable big player.

However, they prefer to make a profit by selling it to another team at a very high price. When they retain the players they have been selling, I think not only can they compete fiercely in the Champions League, win the title and dominate, I think it is not impossible.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It's not just the new fans that reacts negatively to that but also their emotional (maybe passionate?) fans. They have their favorites and also want the best for their teams but they do not see things from the team's business perspective. As time tells us, can still remain in the top 4 of Bundesliga and play for CL after selling their top players.

I can imagine how the feeling of the fans when their favorite players moving to another team. I was a fan of Ronaldo when he played in Real Madrid, I am very sad when he decided to move to Juventus. I can understand if there are some fanatic fans of Dortmund that feel unsatisfied when the club sell them to Bayern Munich or other teams. Even if there will be new star players, it may not as well as the previous star players. However, Dortmund management has their own way, they always focus on the business. But they are good that they still can survive in the top 5 even if they lose many star players. They even can reach the final UCL this season although they sold Bellingham. I really appreciate Dortmund, this team is amazing. 

I also remember the time when Ronaldo was there, Madrid is a team that makes any player great, whoever comes there must take advantage of all his virtues, sometimes it can be the dream of many and few manage to fulfill it, in the case of Dortmund, wow it is an incredible team, it has exceptional players, and above all Marco Reus, for me one of the greats, I remember when he shared with the Venezuelan Juan Arango where he taught him a couple of tricks when taking some free kicks, they are players who appreciate each other a lot, and the friendship between him and LEWA? WOW another level, really these ties are what make me love Dortmund.

[ajiz138]

Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.

[koang]

Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.

All European football clubs are part of UEFA and they follow the same rules, UEFA rules.
All big clubs have the same problems, like Financial Fairplay, fan expectations, etc...
Some clubs can solve their problems in one season, while others need more time but There are many reasons why they can be called a big club
So there is no reason to be pessimistic about the current condition of the club, trust the process, Barca has good management and knows exactly what they have to do to return to success at the highest level.
Enjoy the journey. Don't be pessimistic

[ajiz138]

Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.

All European football clubs are part of UEFA and they follow the same rules, UEFA rules.
All big clubs have the same problems, like Financial Fairplay, fan expectations, etc...
Some clubs can solve their problems in one season, while others need more time but There are many reasons why they can be called a big club
So there is no reason to be pessimistic about the current condition of the club, trust the process, Barca has good management and knows exactly what they have to do to return to success at the highest level.
Enjoy the journey. Don't be pessimistic

Maybe we have different thoughts on this, because the problems they are currently experiencing are their management errors in the past which brought them into the bad situation they are in now.

Of course they are one of the big teams, and in my opinion being pessimistic about them is valid because we definitely have our own reasons. but we shouldn't claim they will play badly, if that is a prediction then I think it is valid.

[armanda90]

All European football clubs are part of UEFA and they follow the same rules, UEFA rules.
All big clubs have the same problems, like Financial Fairplay, fan expectations, etc...
Some clubs can solve their problems in one season, while others need more time but There are many reasons why they can be called a big club
So there is no reason to be pessimistic about the current condition of the club, trust the process, Barca has good management and knows exactly what they have to do to return to success at the highest level.
Enjoy the journey. Don't be pessimistic

Financial fair play is bullshit problem facing by mediocre or small team only but the top team although their financial not balance yet with outcome and income always safe and never get suspended from UEFA or each domestic league association. Did you see how much money spending by PSG and not balance yet between buying or selling players but every season never faced with FFP rule.
The same with Manchester City, since acquisition they must spent much money but never break out the rule of financial fair play and never get suspended from UEFA.

[Rruchi man]

Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.

A new coach may not have players adapt to his style easily, so Barcelona are expected to struggle next season in the La Liga and every other competition that they play. Of all the teams in the Champions league that I expect a lot from, Barcelona is not one them. Manchester City failed to defend it this season, but next season in the Champions League, they will go for it again because Pep is a very ambitious coach who will like to win the champions league again with City.

[vegasus]

Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.

Of course, this will be very difficult for Barcelona with the club's current condition. especially with the new coach. Yes, it is true that Hansi Flick has to work extra carefully in taking all actions related to purchases so that they don't go to waste and seem rushed. We understand that Barcelona's financial condition is very difficult, so Flick has to do extra work to do his best.

So, at UCL in 2024-2025, this will definitely be very difficult. More big and consistent clubs will also be included in the UCL qualifiers next season. So, every club must be ready and prepare everything to be the best at this prestigious club event.

Source:
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/028a-1a4c5f292492-f6d3a5ee82bd-1000--2024-25-champions-league-who-has-qualified-directly-for-t/

[ajiz138]

Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.

A new coach may not have players adapt to his style easily, so Barcelona are expected to struggle next season in the La Liga and every other competition that they play. Of all the teams in the Champions league that I expect a lot from, Barcelona is not one them. Manchester City failed to defend it this season, but next season in the Champions League, they will go for it again because Pep is a very ambitious coach who will like to win the champions league again with City.

Of course they need adaptation to be able to implement the style of play desired by a coach. The reason is, as said, coaches have their own style of play.

Maybe they should lower their expectations of Barcelona a little this season, at least before we see how they play. Because it doesn't rule out the possibility that they can play better than expected. Nothing is impossible, as long as brands are willing to work harder.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.

All European football clubs are part of UEFA and they follow the same rules, UEFA rules.
All big clubs have the same problems, like Financial Fairplay, fan expectations, etc...
Some clubs can solve their problems in one season, while others need more time but There are many reasons why they can be called a big club
So there is no reason to be pessimistic about the current condition of the club, trust the process, Barca has good management and knows exactly what they have to do to return to success at the highest level.
Enjoy the journey. Don't be pessimistic

I am a Madrid native, but right now I want things to go well for Barcelona in terms of players and for them to have enough money to recruit the best players so they can make their team the most competitive as always and for the rivalry between Barcelona and Madrid to continue. You have to see that now the teams in the League are getting very strong and are doing everything possible to make them play better and better, that's why every time we see that many are generating better football, it can be predicted that the level of football is getting higher and higher , that's why I want Barcelona to do well in this transfer season.

[KingsDen]

Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.

I want to come in from the aspect of the former coach of Barcelona Xavi Hernandez. He took over the club when they were in financial crisis and I believe it is only a few coach that will agree to take up such a challenge. Due to he is the legend of the club, he took over there headship of that club in the coaching aspect and did excellently well. Yes, I will not deny the fact that he did well and was even competing with Real Madrid and beating them in many occasions. Where he had his limitation was in the Champions League and other European competitions. Who knows if the new coach have better idea on how to approach the Champions League competition and he could be lucky to go far. But then, even if such a thing has to happen it must not be this season. He needs time to synchronize with the team and find a head way. He is quite unfortunate that his rival club is very much formidable now.