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[sampoerna]

As you probably noticed, Unijoin has plans to add mixing for altcoins like ETH, LTC, and USDT. So we can only wait for it to appear on the Unijoin site. Personally, I think that LTC mixing may be popular because the LTC network has the MWEB feature, but at the same time, I am somehow skeptical about USDT mixing because the smart contract of this stablecoin allows Tether to blacklist any addresses.

That's it, so we are going to have more preferences that fit to us. What I am wondering is also about the fee that will be offered, probably this will be different. because commonly those three coins have fewer fee transaction.
However, recently many people have asked about the possibility of other coins. and UniJoin will soon make it happen.

I wasn't advising or encouraging any body to receive their Payment directly to a centralized exchange, or connect a kyc exchange to a mixer, like I've said, before, what I said was based on what some of the participants in that campaign did, and what they said was their reason for doing it.

Yeah it is risky imo, and avoidable. A lot of risks are unnecessarily added with centralized exchanges.

This conversation is a good opportunity to share a very interesting article from Unijoin: Differences between CEXs and DEXs

When an exchange is licensed, it imposes not only its internal rules but also those of government. Centralized, licensed exchanges introduce at least six unnecessary risks to their customers: the possible dishonesty of an exchange, bad actors from outside, identity theft, incompetence, collapse, and affiliation with government. Some risks come from being centralized; some come from being licensed.

Unfortunately it's like that. Usually when it is a CEX that is under governmental law and regulation, then if there are coins deposited from a wallet that they think is suspicious, then they will suspend the deposit. And in the end we have to bother taking care of them because we have to do it by contacting their live support and following the procedure. So to anticipate this, it's better to go to a DEX or personal wallet first, then if you want to transfer it to an exchange for certain reasons, you can continue.

[famososMuertos]

...//:::

They already mentioned something, but unless it is an emergency, download Tor, which is available for Android or Apple (OrNET + TOR VPN):https://apps.apple.com/es/app/tor-browser-ornet-tor-vpn/id1177964608

^{Although, in my case, I would hope to be able to do it on my laptop/desktop.}

[notblox1]

Sorry but may be you read and try to comprehend well before replying

OK, let me repeat exactly what you wrote:

it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.

This is recommendation written by you, and you clearly say that is is better to receive coins from mixer directly to exchange because of fees
Now I will say again that this stupid, and I explained why in my previous post.
Now lets get back on Unijoin topic.

[klarki]

The review is in the process of being edited.

UniJoin.io review

Introductions:

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Mixing:
Type: one address
Fee:  randomly generated ( My randomly generated fee is 1.9175%)
Delay: 2h09m
Step 1:


Step 2:


At this stage, we can:

• add up to 8 addresses* with the button (+ Add New
  Address).
• enter your Unicode**
• select a time delay (up to 72 hours)

 *

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Only Bitcoin Main-net
addresses are supported. Don't
worry, the form will tell you if you
have entered an invalid address.
**

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Your UniCode is optional, once you
place your first order you will receive
your UniCode automatically.
UniCode is your defense against getting your own coins after mixing.

Step 3:



Read the terms and conditions carefully and agree to them if you agree. Detailed terms and conditions: https://unijoin.io/en/terms-and-conditions

Step 4:



At this point we need to send our coins to the address provided.  + You can save your UniCode.

After you send your coins, you will see a display on the order page:


At this stage, also remember to download your letter of guarantee (It's mandatory.

Step 5:



At this step you can keep track of the time after which you will receive your cleared coins.



Step 6:









Once the mixing is done, the order link is no longer available.


AML Check:



After that, I sent the funds I received to one of the cryptocurrency exchanges. Everything went smoothly 


Support:

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[Wakate]

Sorry but may be you read and try to comprehend well before replying

OK, let me repeat exactly what you wrote:

it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.

This is recommendation written by you, and you clearly say that is is better to receive coins from mixer directly to exchange because of fees
Now I will say again that this stupid, and I explained why in my previous post.
Now lets get back on Unijoin topic.

This conversation looks very interesting dude!
Well, I have seen someone that spent not less than $2k or even more on transaction fee to move Bitcoin from one wallet to the other. Although the reason was never clear to me but I know the amount was huge. Many investors are still holding there Bitcoin because of high network fee.

it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.

No, dude! This is very wrong and that mistake should never happens. Why would you mix a coin and send it to an exchange just because of the high network fee? Apart from the unfortunate thing that could happen making the exchange to freeze the coin and asking you critical questions on why you decided to mix the coin before depositing, your data can be traced without any stress.
High network fee should not make us make decisions that would  erase our main motive of mixing a coin. It would be juvenile if we mix a coin and send it to an exchange(centralized) for trade.

[Cantsay]

it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.

No, dude! This is very wrong and that mistake should never happens. Why would you mix a coin and send it to an exchange just because of the high network fee? Apart from the unfortunate thing that could happen making the exchange to freeze the coin and asking you critical questions on why you decided to mix the coin before depositing, your data can be traced without any stress.
High network fee should not make us make decisions that would  erase our main motive of mixing a coin. It would be juvenile if we mix a coin and send it to an exchange(centralized) for trade.

You didn’t copy everything that @Fivestar4everMVP said, whoever reads your post will think he was actually advising that people should receive directly with their exchange address. He only just pointed out the reason why anyone would do something like that – and he’s not wrong imagine having to spend $13 just to move $50 to your exchange account, you’d also be compelled to just receive the funds directly with your exchange address to save your money.

Add the bolded part below to the post you quoted so that others will get the correct information you’re replying to.

I wouldnt blame the participants who did that either, because in times when bitcoin transactions fees get too high, and you are going to be selling your bitcoin when you receive them, it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.

[Gyrgen]

No, dude! This is very wrong and that mistake should never happens. Why would you mix a coin and send it to an exchange just because of the high network fee? Apart from the unfortunate thing that could happen making the exchange to freeze the coin and asking you critical questions on why you decided to mix the coin before depositing, your data can be traced without any stress.
High network fee should not make us make decisions that would  erase our main motive of mixing a coin. It would be juvenile if we mix a coin and send it to an exchange(centralized) for trade.

I’m reading through a translator, perhaps the translation is not correct. Do I understand correctly that if you mix bitcoins through a mixer and then send them to a centralized place to sell them, for example, they can be blocked?

[Stompix]

I’m reading through a translator, perhaps the translation is not correct. Do I understand correctly that if you mix bitcoins through a mixer and then send them to a centralized place to sell them, for example, they can be blocked?

CAN!

The possibility exists, it's not only about mixed coins as some crappy exchanges running stupid AML bots will block even genuine funds coming from another exchange, and so when there is risk, again, why take it and not try to minimize it!

With this in mind, I must repeat that I've sent by mistake freshly mixed coins directly to Bitstamp, the same company that asks you for everything including proof of income without anything happening, but if you can afford , just don't do it, some exchnges have really bad configured bots that will trigger warnigns out of nowhere, this is a discussion I've had with such a representative of an exchange that used a stupid AML bot:

First, AMLBOT entity is a completely different company, which we have client-customer connections only. You can check full info about their company on their website https://amlbot.com/, and you have all their legal information available at the header of the AML report. AMLbot is a trusted tool widely used (not only by us) to ensure the safety of crypto transactions, for any questions about how their system works you can address the information on their website. We must note that the AML reports like one you received are issued automatically and cannot be changed nor by us, neither by the company behind the bot itself, so there is no conspiracy to rip you off your money behind that

AMLBOT is overpriced garbage that nobody is taking serious.
And I'm going to prove you how crappy that service is right here

OP deposited through tx
https://mempool.space/tx/b1fcd509833b9a6d6ce142806c1bced2780bc6acb4695ce3e8a04a227ba1ad53
From 13oLHMtTujmYBVsKJEgY4nzxKiWSB4qEWo  to your adress at bc1qrv44amv8myhlug9wuxt4u23aq8jud8he4nm9h4

13oLHMtTujmYBVsKJEgY4nzxKiWSB4qEWo  was funded in:
https://mempool.space/tx/215a81bd42ea6b060de813222b5fe1a2d600a3c20a13aba7a8e6214eb97b609d
‎0.94691470 BTC from bc1q7cyrfmck2ffu2ud3rn5l5a8yv6f0chkp0zpemf

bc1q7cyrfmck2ffu2ud3rn5l5a8yv6f0chkp0zpemf
is crypto.com wallet
https://glasschain.org/btc/address/bc1q7cyrfmck2ffu2ud3rn5l5a8yv6f0chkp0zpemf

So because somebody is accusing crypto.com of either seizing their funds of closing their accounts, they report the address, glasschain indexes those reports and then stupid bots take those into account and label the address as being risky! Pretty much like somebody losing at a casino, leaving a negative google review on it and now your bank account is frozen because you have won in that casino and cashed out!

You didn’t copy everything that @Fivestar4everMVP said, whoever reads your post will think he was actually advising that people should receive directly with their exchange address. He only just pointed out the reason why anyone would do something like that – and he’s not wrong imagine having to spend $13 just to move $50 to your exchange account, you’d also be compelled to just receive the funds directly with your exchange address to save your money.

$13 for a single input transaction is 270sat/vb, there was never a period longer than 3 days in which a 100sat/vb wouldn't have confirmed, so let's not exaggerate to try and make an excuse for something, moreover Sinbad was seized at the end of November, you had a full month before that with 1sat/b confirmation and there are some who have used their exchange address for more than two years!

Anyhow!!!!
 I think we're spend enough time on this, better go back and this time for real and stick to Unijoin!

As I'm preparing my review, I saw something that I think needs mentioning and it's not really about the mixing process , it's just some text in FAQ:

What Is A Crypto Mixer?
A crypto ~~~~~~ Chipmixer uses the technology of Chips that have a certain value, and UniJoin uses CoinJoin technology, which we believe is the most effective method for restoring and maintaining anonymity.

well, the competitor is dead and buried already, I don't know if mentioning it is a net gain, of course Unijoin is here and CM not, but it would just make people worry remembering what happened to some mixers.
Anyhow, nothing worth speeding more than a minute on it, just found it interesting!

AML Check:

What did that AML bot say?
Not that I don't dislike those things with every molecule of my body but I'm still genuinely curios about those scores!
Mind a comparison test, you tx versus for example the campaign payments?

[Positive]

I think most people do the same, holding Bitcoin for a rainy day. That’s why you need a mixer like this to do it once and lose traces.But since stablecoins are used more often in everyday life, I think creating a mixer for altcoins is much more relevant.

As you probably noticed, Unijoin has plans to add mixing for altcoins like ETH, LTC, and USDT. So we can only wait for it to appear on the Unijoin site. Personally, I think that LTC mixing may be popular because the LTC network has the MWEB feature, but at the same time, I am somehow skeptical about USDT mixing because the smart contract of this stablecoin allows Tether to blacklist any addresses.

I like the idea of having a mixer that will provide service for ETH after the arrest of the Tornado Cash owner and the blacklist of their website.

Out of curiosity, is there a link to the Unijoin announcement regarding the creation of a mixing service that will support ETH, LTC, and USDT?

Because the last time I checked Tether had frozen at least a 500Million USD worth of USDT  to assist law enforcement authorities with a money laundering case so I think it will be hard for a crypto mixer to avoid the same scenario unless there's a decentralized stablecoin they can add to their service.

I am Also impressed too, although I am a core Bitcoin enthusiast but still I think crypto is an open space and everyone is free to explore the varieties of coins available,  and Ethereum is arguably the next most famous crypto coin aside Bitcoin.

I think this offer would increase the adoption of cryptocurrency because there are holders of altcoins who are looking for ways to perform anonymous transactions and. A mixing services that supports those altcoin would make their lives easier for them.

But do you think that there may be some negative side as we know performing transactions on the Ethereum network fees are very high here, would the fees using an Ethereum mixer be even higher than it's normal transactions? If so people can just convert to Bitcoin and mix the Bitcoin.

Altcoin mixing service will increase the adoption of cryptocurrency, how?
Based on my understanding it will increase the traffic of the crypto mixer platform that provides the service just like we see with Tornado Cash before the platform was blacklisted.

Of course, for every advantage, there will be disadvantages, and the negative effect I believe will happen is Tether will freeze the USDT sent by the mixer user if the law enforcement authorities order Tether to do so.

I like the idea of having a mixer that will provide service for ETH after the arrest of the Tornado Cash owner and the blacklist of their website.
Because the last time I checked Tether had frozen at least a 500Million USD worth of USDT  to assist law enforcement authorities with a money laundering case so I think it will be hard for a crypto mixer to avoid the same scenario unless there's a decentralized stablecoin they can add to their service.

You can still use Tornado Cash to mix your coins, the smart contract is still active, the problem is exchanges refusing coins labeled coming from there, which will be the same pain in the ass for USDT in case of a mixer. Since this is a centralized protocol, all the coins are issued by them, they can control everything, I don't really see the point in trying to mix them, it's a bit asking for trouble, probably the reason why everybody stayed out of it to this point.
ETH and LTC yeah, nice addition, USDT...not really sold on the idea!

I don't know Tornado cash smart contract is still active but there is no point in using the platform mixing service since most exchanges have already tagged it.
Is it possible to create a mixing service on Ethereum that will decentralized?

[Stompix]

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I don't know Tornado cash smart contract is still active but there is no point in using the platform mixing service since most exchanges have already tagged it.
Is it possible to create a mixing service on Ethereum that will decentralized?

That's exactly what Tornado Cash is, a complete decentralized smart contract, which basically will need re-writing of the ETH protocol to be completely shut down.

[BIT-BENDER]

Sorry but may be you read and try to comprehend well before replying

OK, let me repeat exactly what you wrote:

it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.

This is recommendation written by you, and you clearly say that is is better to receive coins from mixer directly to exchange because of fees
Now I will say again that this stupid, and I explained why in my previous post.
Now lets get back on Unijoin topic.

Yea for sure, the idea of using a bitcoin mixer only to then receive your coin directly on an exchange is laughable.

And it is not rocket science to understand that using an exchange especially a decentralised exchange compromises your anonymity.
1. Most exchanges needs you to register
2. Some goes to the extent of asking for your KYC
3. Not your private keys not your wallet, so funds coming into an exchange is risky.

You should not engage the service of a mixer and after the stress you end of throwing it all away by using an exchange as your receiving address

[Z-tight]

1. Most exchanges needs you to register
2. Some goes to the extent of asking for your KYC

All centralized exchanges require you to register and complete your kyc to be able to trade on their platform, there are a few centralized exchanges that would allow you trade without kyc for small amounts, but many of them have already made kyc mandatory and the few that is left would surely do that soon. To avoid giving any platform your data, you must use p2p exchanges.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Sorry but may be you read and try to comprehend well before replying

OK, let me repeat exactly what you wrote:

it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.

This is recommendation written by you, and you clearly say that is is better to receive coins from mixer directly to exchange because of fees
Now I will say again that this stupid, and I explained why in my previous post.
Now lets get back on Unijoin topic.

Well, I am not going to reply you again after this, for I believe you know clearly what you are doing, how can you pick out a full comment, snip out some parts, then quote the remaining part and make that part you quoted look like it's the full comment? Only people with low IQ do that.

And thanks very much @Cantsay for coming through with the part of my comment he snipped out, and also for once again, trying to make him understand that what he did was not only wrong, but that I also was never advising people to use centralized exchanges to receive Payment for their services, but what I said, again, was what some campaign participants did and their reason for doing that.

It is one thing to know how to to read and write, but it's another thing entirely to know how to read and comprehend(understand).

[Wakate]

No, dude! This is very wrong and that mistake should never happens. Why would you mix a coin and send it to an exchange just because of the high network fee? Apart from the unfortunate thing that could happen making the exchange to freeze the coin and asking you critical questions on why you decided to mix the coin before depositing, your data can be traced without any stress.
High network fee should not make us make decisions that would  erase our main motive of mixing a coin. It would be juvenile if we mix a coin and send it to an exchange(centralized) for trade.

I’m reading through a translator, perhaps the translation is not correct. Do I understand correctly that if you mix bitcoins through a mixer and then send them to a centralized place to sell them, for example, they can be blocked?

What is the essence of you mixing a coin and still sending it directly to a centralized exchange? Your coin could be at risk if care is not taken. If the address is already blacklisted, the exchange will have no option than to freeze your coin for a well detailed explanation. They would want evidence and what prompted a transaction from such address. You might have to pass through hectic procedures before your coin could ever be released but if you are not lucky enough, you could lose your fund.
Cases like these keep happening and we'll just have to learn from others avoiding being a victim.

1. Most exchanges needs you to register
2. Some goes to the extent of asking for your KYC

All centralized exchanges require you to register and complete your kyc to be able to trade on their platform, there are a few centralized exchanges that would allow you trade without kyc for small amounts, but many of them have already made kyc mandatory and the few that is left would surely do that soon. To avoid giving any platform your data, you must use p2p exchanges.

There are level of risks that is attached to the use of centralized exchanges and we ought to know that. We can always trade our coin locally than trading it on exchanges even without KYC verification. Peer-to-peer exchange also have risk connected since you will always drop your bank details for a sell and with that, your bank account can be tracked effortlessly.

[Gyrgen]

I’m reading through a translator, perhaps the translation is not correct. Do I understand correctly that if you mix bitcoins through a mixer and then send them to a centralized place to sell them, for example, they can be blocked?

CAN!

The possibility exists, it's not only about mixed coins as some crappy exchanges running stupid AML bots will block even genuine funds coming from another exchange, and so when there is risk, again, why take it and not try to minimize it!

With this in mind, I must repeat that I've sent by mistake freshly mixed coins directly to Bitstamp, the same company that asks you for everything including proof of income without anything happening, but if you can afford , just don't do it, some exchnges have really bad configured bots that will trigger warnigns out of nowhere, this is a discussion I've had with such a representative of an exchange that used a stupid AML bot:

Wow, to be honest, I never thought in this direction. But still, if I understood correctly, the problem is not in the mixer, but in clumsily configured bots on some exchanges. But for safety, if you decide to sell bitcoins, it is better to do it on decentralized exchanges, even though there are horse commission.