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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #375 on: September 25, 2024, 01:51:46 PM »

^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.

AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.

I agree that he is too young to retire, but I’m uncertain if he can bounce back from this brutal loss to Daniel Dubois. I vividly recall his rematch with Ruiz; although he won, it seemed his confidence hadn’t fully returned. If they activate the rematch clause, I believe the outcome will be the same. Just my two cents.

He will need another cherry pick up if AJ wanted to bounce back. He could pick a boxer that he will knockout, but not sure if he can make a lot of money from it. Sort of like a Otto Wallin boxer, good in paper, but the risk is not that time.

As much as I think that we want him to retire, maybe he won't he will still have some good fights left for him. And maybe we will see Fury and AJ fight for the British title and it could be the last fight for either of the two.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #376 on: September 26, 2024, 09:38:48 PM »

^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.

AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.

I agree that he is too young to retire, but I’m uncertain if he can bounce back from this brutal loss to Daniel Dubois. I vividly recall his rematch with Ruiz; although he won, it seemed his confidence hadn’t fully returned. If they activate the rematch clause, I believe the outcome will be the same. Just my two cents.

He will need another cherry pick up if AJ wanted to bounce back. He could pick a boxer that he will knockout, but not sure if he can make a lot of money from it. Sort of like a Otto Wallin boxer, good in paper, but the risk is not that time.

As much as I think that we want him to retire, maybe he won't he will still have some good fights left for him. And maybe we will see Fury and AJ fight for the British title and it could be the last fight for either of the two.

AJ vs Fury is very marketable match. I think they can make money out of it and it wouldn't matter AJ to lose again as long as he gets around more than $8M. Although it may not be this much, I believe it's still millions.

AJ can recover back again it may take time before he will try another fight but fighting as soon as possible will get him another leg up as long as he can cherry pick a fight.



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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #377 on: September 27, 2024, 03:09:58 PM »

^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.

AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.

I agree that he is too young to retire, but I’m uncertain if he can bounce back from this brutal loss to Daniel Dubois. I vividly recall his rematch with Ruiz; although he won, it seemed his confidence hadn’t fully returned. If they activate the rematch clause, I believe the outcome will be the same. Just my two cents.

He will need another cherry pick up if AJ wanted to bounce back. He could pick a boxer that he will knockout, but not sure if he can make a lot of money from it. Sort of like a Otto Wallin boxer, good in paper, but the risk is not that time.

As much as I think that we want him to retire, maybe he won't he will still have some good fights left for him. And maybe we will see Fury and AJ fight for the British title and it could be the last fight for either of the two.

AJ vs Fury is very marketable match. I think they can make money out of it and it wouldn't matter AJ to lose again as long as he gets around more than $8M. Although it may not be this much, I believe it's still millions.

AJ can recover back again it may take time before he will try another fight but fighting as soon as possible will get him another leg up as long as he can cherry pick a fight.

It might take sometime though for that fight to happen, they need to realized that if Fury lost to Usyk again, and as we have seen, AJ lost to Dubois already, so they need to hype this fight before fans starts to be interested again. So both will have to fight someone that is good in paper, sort of their comeback fight then gain their confidence before they should face each other again in front of their fans in Wembley to see who is the greatest English boxer in this generation.
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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #378 on: September 27, 2024, 09:49:47 PM »
Here are the press conference highlights for Bivol Vs Betterbiev:


As expected, there was not much trash-talking from either of them, and it was rather polite, with undercard fighters doing most of the talk + the second half of the video is the official trailer.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #379 on: September 28, 2024, 11:57:25 AM »
Here are the press conference highlights for Bivol Vs Betterbiev:

As expected, there was not much trash-talking from either of them, and it was rather polite, with undercard fighters doing most of the talk + the second half of the video is the official trailer.

Seldom do we see fighters who are very respectful at each other. Although we all know that once they hear the ring in round 1, they are going to fight and will hit everything with bad intentions.

I hasn't seen much of the undercard, but for sure I will take a lot at it and see if there is something that we can parlay.

Just a couple of weeks, I'm really excited about this fight, and I will say that I might lean towards Bivol.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #380 on: September 29, 2024, 08:16:47 AM »
Here are the press conference highlights for Bivol Vs Betterbiev:

As expected, there was not much trash-talking from either of them, and it was rather polite, with undercard fighters doing most of the talk + the second half of the video is the official trailer.

Seldom do we see fighters who are very respectful at each other. Although we all know that once they hear the ring in round 1, they are going to fight and will hit everything with bad intentions.

I hasn't seen much of the undercard, but for sure I will take a lot at it and see if there is something that we can parlay.

Just a couple of weeks, I'm really excited about this fight, and I will say that I might lean towards Bivol.

They are both Russians, so maybe that's where the respect is coming from. But you are right, once the bell rings, they will execute their game plan and try to win this fight. It is still Bivol the favorite and I do not see that it will change. Bivol will rely not on his power, as his power is just average, but with his sheer volume of punching. While on the other hand, despite his age, Beterbiev is considered right now as the best knockout artist with a perfect record. And that's why this is a very intriguing and interesting fight as it's really hard to see who will win and others despite the odds, thinks this is a 50-50 fight.
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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #381 on: September 29, 2024, 09:24:50 AM »
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As expected, there was not much trash-talking from either of them, and it was rather polite, with undercard fighters doing most of the talk + the second half of the video is the official trailer.
I'll give some time to watch the whole press conference, but as expected, both of these fighters have respect with one another. I mean correct me if I'm wrong but they're friends I think and there's no bad blood between the two of them whatsoever.

I hope this is what most of the boxers in the future will do. Enough of the trash talk shit already during the press conference. The problem is that fans always like trash talks and they're getting entertained whenever they see their man trash talking their opponent. These 2 fighters respect each other, and I wish that all of us will get entertained by this much anticipated fight. I hope there will also be no more postponement for the fight already like injuries whatever.

There's still no odds on different gambling websites still, but where will you put your bets if it opens? Or anybody here that wants to share who they will be betting with?

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #382 on: October 02, 2024, 07:41:42 AM »
There's still no odds on different gambling websites still, but where will you put your bets if it opens? Or anybody here that wants to share who they will be betting with?

I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol, but the odds aren’t very appealing, especially since we’re not high rollers. I believe Bivol can withstand Beterbiev’s power, and if the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Bivol might come out on top.


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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #383 on: October 02, 2024, 12:50:36 PM »
There's still no odds on different gambling websites still, but where will you put your bets if it opens? Or anybody here that wants to share who they will be betting with?

I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol, but the odds aren’t very appealing, especially since we’re not high rollers. I believe Bivol can withstand Beterbiev’s power, and if the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Bivol might come out on top.



Go for Bivol winning by decision, hehehe, that's already what I put as my bet. And same with you, I think he can outlast Beterbiev and he will be very careful not to engage Beterbiev. Or if he will engage Beterbiev, he will be darting like going in and out, just like what he did against Canelo.

He also got a nice chin in my opinion, and it could be very hard to crack even with Beterbiev's power. So let's see, the line is still open, but I'm not expecting any swing odds for Beterbiev here.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #384 on: October 02, 2024, 01:35:08 PM »
There's still no odds on different gambling websites still, but where will you put your bets if it opens? Or anybody here that wants to share who they will be betting with?

I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol, but the odds aren’t very appealing, especially since we’re not high rollers. I believe Bivol can withstand Beterbiev’s power, and if the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Bivol might come out on top.



Go for Bivol winning by decision, hehehe, that's already what I put as my bet. And same with you, I think he can outlast Beterbiev and he will be very careful not to engage Beterbiev. Or if he will engage Beterbiev, he will be darting like going in and out, just like what he did against Canelo.

He also got a nice chin in my opinion, and it could be very hard to crack even with Beterbiev's power. So let's see, the line is still open, but I'm not expecting any swing odds for Beterbiev here.

This is also what I have heard from many boxing analyst, that Bivol will take Beterbiev for a ride on a full 12 round fight and there will be no knockout or knockdown. It will be Bivol dictating the fight and will used his volume punching and his jab to take away Beterbiev's power and let Arthur gets tired in the championship round.

Personally, I see Beterbiev's weaknesses as maybe in the gas tank in his belly. He could be tired entering championship rounds while Bivol might still look fresh as he is the younger of the two.
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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #385 on: October 03, 2024, 05:35:03 AM »
There's still no odds on different gambling websites still, but where will you put your bets if it opens? Or anybody here that wants to share who they will be betting with?

I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol, but the odds aren’t very appealing, especially since we’re not high rollers. I believe Bivol can withstand Beterbiev’s power, and if the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Bivol might come out on top.



Go for Bivol winning by decision, hehehe, that's already what I put as my bet. And same with you, I think he can outlast Beterbiev and he will be very careful not to engage Beterbiev. Or if he will engage Beterbiev, he will be darting like going in and out, just like what he did against Canelo.

He also got a nice chin in my opinion, and it could be very hard to crack even with Beterbiev's power. So let's see, the line is still open, but I'm not expecting any swing odds for Beterbiev here.

Yup, i'm going to tail you mate, betting fo Bivol to win via decision once they put that option on the bookie. Bivol has a decent chin while it is questionable if Beterbiev won't gas-out if the fight will last twelve rounds as all of his fight were all knockout wins.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #386 on: October 03, 2024, 03:42:37 PM »
There's still no odds on different gambling websites still, but where will you put your bets if it opens? Or anybody here that wants to share who they will be betting with?

I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol, but the odds aren’t very appealing, especially since we’re not high rollers. I believe Bivol can withstand Beterbiev’s power, and if the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Bivol might come out on top.



Go for Bivol winning by decision, hehehe, that's already what I put as my bet. And same with you, I think he can outlast Beterbiev and he will be very careful not to engage Beterbiev. Or if he will engage Beterbiev, he will be darting like going in and out, just like what he did against Canelo.

He also got a nice chin in my opinion, and it could be very hard to crack even with Beterbiev's power. So let's see, the line is still open, but I'm not expecting any swing odds for Beterbiev here.

Yup, i'm going to tail you mate, betting fo Bivol to win via decision once they put that option on the bookie. Bivol has a decent chin while it is questionable if Beterbiev won't gas-out if the fight will last twelve rounds as all of his fight were all knockout wins.

It's seem that boxing fans are in unison to say that Beterbiev gas tank is being in question in this fight. And then we highlight the thing that Bivol did to Canelo, volume and high output every round and didn't give him any breathing room.

And Canelo doesn't have any answers for the volume punching and instead he just play dead and thinks that he can counter a counter puncher. So this fight might be the same, although Beterbiev has the power advantage, but I think Bivol is not going to be get caught in this fight.
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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #387 on: October 03, 2024, 11:21:54 PM »
OK, so the Bivol's ex-wife drama is a real thing. I thought it was fake at first, but there is some press coverage already:

https://en.as.com/other_sports/dmitry-bivols-ex-wife-hits-below-the-belt-ahead-of-artur-beterbiev-bout-n/

https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-for-childrens-sake-dmitry-bivol-s-ex-wife-ekaterina-refuses-to-change-last-name-amid-alimony-dispute-this-is-my-complete-moral-and-legal-right/

https://www.si.com/fannation/boxing/dmitry-bivol-ex-wife-now-wants-him-defeated-by-opponent-artur-beterbiev-01j8whavp26s

What an utterly bitter c*nt she is. Publicly cheering for a father of her children to be beaten up by other guy just to get back at him for allegedly not paying her enough alimony.

She even posted this and tagged Beterbiev and his team:
https://x.com/diegomayra/status/1839487923135136145


Anybody knows when did they got divorced? Was it a long time ago ar is it a fresh thing? Things like that can really affect fighter's mentality and therefore the result of a fight.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #388 on: October 11, 2024, 11:49:08 PM »
This is it, only 1 day to go to this epic fight.

Full weight in video:


Judging by the body language, both seem to be properly prepared and ready to go, with a slight advantage to Bivol who appeared to be a bit sharper and more focussed.
Beterbiev unnecessarily engaged in an argument with Hearn during the press conference, which made him look stressed and insecure.
I'm not going to bet on this one, but if I had to, my money would go on Bivol.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #389 on: October 12, 2024, 09:04:52 AM »
^^ Yes, it looks like both of them are ready to rumble and 100% healthy. So there should be no excuses here, and if it live to the hype, a fight of the year candidate. And it seems that they don't have any problem making the weight as both of them are under 175 lbs.

Others says that it's a 50/50 fight which I do agree. But if you look at Beterbiev, he will be coming off from a injury and he is the older of the two. And it will be his first time to fight a caliber fighter like Bivol. While Bivol has battled the best of the 168 lbs and the cash cow Canelo and won. So for sure everyone is going to be up and going to watch this fight regardless or our time zone here.

 

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