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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2024, 01:13:07 PM »
It will be helpful, but it is not what I'm afraid to do or like that, it is just technically not allowed to do in the Decentralized Team section, to open a new topic. And this is the only correct section for such a topic, so all moderators to see the reported violation. If it was technically possible I'd opened it already.

Any similar topic in any other section has not much sense, because mods can miss or overlook posts in there.
So it means that we will have to wait for admin's decision for creating a board or thread like that? I think admin of this forum is too busy these days because he's working a lot to improve the state of the forum.

However, I think we all should convey this message to admin so he might think about it and may create such thread or board so moderators can delete all those posts that are generated with AI text generators.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #61 on: January 23, 2024, 02:40:56 PM »
It will be helpful, but it is not what I'm afraid to do or like that, it is just technically not allowed to do in the Decentralized Team section, to open a new topic. And this is the only correct section for such a topic, so all moderators to see the reported violation. If it was technically possible I'd opened it already.

Any similar topic in any other section has not much sense, because mods can miss or overlook posts in there.

Make sense. But there is a reputation board as well which was renamed very recently. I guess that board fits for such thread. But, If you guys could take care of it, it will be better for the community. I am curious if you or other moderators talked to an admin about it or not. If we just wait for an admin to create such a thread without even asking him, then it may take a long long time to get a thread like that. He may miss our discussion. BTW, I know it's off topic, but I want to ask. Are you the same person in Bitcointalk username Jokers10?
Admin of this forum is very active. he's checking most of the posts by himself. as you can see by his posting history. I am sure he would see this thread and see all the suggestions you guys have given very soon if haven't seen it already.
Regarding creating a thread. I think anyone can create that. I don't see any reason for asking admins permission to write a thread.
Along with the thread it would be good to use "Report to Moderator" option whenever you see an AI generated post. in fact that's better than a thread if you ask  me.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #62 on: January 23, 2024, 02:42:45 PM »
So it means that we will have to wait for admin's decision for creating a board or thread like that? I think admin of this forum is too busy these days because he's working a lot to improve the state of the forum.

However, I think we all should convey this message to admin so he might think about it and may create such thread or board so moderators can delete all those posts that are generated with AI text generators.

Moderators can work and do work with AI violations. You can report AI posts and inform moderators the other way. We are talking just about some topic in the Decentralized Team section so everyone can have a place to report the problem in detail, and the Decentralized Team section is the place where moderators will see it sooner than in other sections.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2024, 03:35:26 PM »
Moderators can work and do work with AI violations. You can report AI posts and inform moderators the other way. We are talking just about some topic in the Decentralized Team section so everyone can have a place to report the problem in detail, and the Decentralized Team section is the place where moderators will see it sooner than in other sections.
Yes, I think admin should create a thread in Decentralized Team board with name "Report AI generated posts." I have seen that there are similar kind of threads on that board and one additional thread will fix the issue.

I also think that admin should most probably hire a few more moderators so they can handle the tasks pretty smoothly. AI posts are main concern for many users because they spend their precious time to post here and it really discourages them when a bot replies to them.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #64 on: January 23, 2024, 03:53:34 PM »
Moderators can work and do work with AI violations. You can report AI posts and inform moderators the other way. We are talking just about some topic in the Decentralized Team section so everyone can have a place to report the problem in detail, and the Decentralized Team section is the place where moderators will see it sooner than in other sections.

I tried to get his attention about AI posting in chat and asked if he plans to create a thread like Report AI-generated content here. He said AI Fighting, coming soon. I know it's not a direct answer. But, I guess he is positive about it. Even if he does not create a thread, maybe he has another plan against fighting AI. Probably he will introduce new badge for AI content and new strike. That's what I could think at this moment. He is kind of specialized in creating badge and things like that. LOL.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #65 on: January 27, 2024, 07:42:06 AM »
It will be hard for global mods and other moderators to handle local reports. You may not understand what are they talking about due to the language barrier. We cannot rely on google translator. FYI, I have applied to be a Local moderator but I didn't get any response yet. I guess it is the president and Vice president who hire moderators. I didn't get any positive or negative feedback about my application. But I would be glad to work if you guys need a guy from my locals. About development works, I do not want to send Private messages and bother them. Since they have the priority list, they will have to follow them for sure. We should be more patient instead.

It's true that language is a big barrier, but with the help of the local user reporting it it shouldn't be a serious problem, but that's just my opinion.

Regarding your application to be a local moderator, I can tell you that it is not something that can be done in a few days or weeks. What @hair and I do is monitor the users who have applied for that position and in a few months we can decide who will fill that position.

We take into account the activity of these users, the quality of their posts, the way they talk to others, and overall we will be able to verify that the user will do a good job.

Even if you haven't received any notification or response, don't worry, we take all requests into account.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #66 on: January 27, 2024, 03:37:42 PM »
I tried to get his attention about AI posting in chat and asked if he plans to create a thread like Report AI-generated content here. He said AI Fighting, coming soon. I know it's not a direct answer. But, I guess he is positive about it. Even if he does not create a thread, maybe he has another plan against fighting AI. Probably he will introduce new badge for AI content and new strike. That's what I could think at this moment. He is kind of specialized in creating badge and things like that. LOL.
Sound very optimistic with AI Fighting coming soon.
Of course, this requires a special team assigned to check Ai's posts, or they use some sort of automated tool to see how the posts are made.

A new badge is certainly needed to flag users detected using Ai more than once (initial errors will probably only get regular strikes).

The use of AI for posting or to respond to a topic, it's just the answer of the robot Ai who doesn't have any opinion, I once found a member on this forum who created a thread with Ai, and he couldn't dodge it.

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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #66 on: January 27, 2024, 03:37:42 PM »


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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #67 on: January 27, 2024, 04:45:36 PM »
We take into account the activity of these users, the quality of their posts, and the way they talk to others, and overall we will be able to verify that the user will do a good job.

Even if you haven't received any notification or response, don't worry, we take all requests into account.

Sounds good.
It's not hard for the active users to prove themself. As I can see, a new moderator has been assigned and I am happy about it. At least we could report, and a local mod would be able to handle those reports. I don't want to rush into anything. I don't want to be a mod by spending a few days only. But I thought you guys will reply me. I have been in Bitcointalk for over a year and earned around 750 Merits. But, I have to prove myself here as well. It's good to know that you guys take allrequestst into account. Probably I may bump my application after a few more months.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #68 on: January 28, 2024, 12:17:28 PM »
. Generating content with AI and Copy pasting posts from other sources (Which is plagiarism) should be the similar (if not same) offense and they should be punished.
If there are new members or old members who have high rankings, you shouldn't use AI to make posts, it will only result in every topic reply from that member being written repeatedly and that is more similar to Spam.
The rules on the altcoinstalks forum are that if someone makes a Spam post, they must delete it and the member gets a warning or gets -Karma.
It's better to use your own ideas to reply to every topic created or quote from various members on the altcoinstalks forum because if you use AI the words will also look very stiff and may not have constructive value with other members. Cmiiw

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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #69 on: January 28, 2024, 06:02:30 PM »
It's better to use your own ideas to reply to every topic created or quote from various members on the altcoinstalks forum because if you use AI the words will also look very stiff and may not have constructive value with other members. Cmiiw

This is not the main fact. I always consider it as cheating because when I as a human try to connect with another human, an AI just wrote some random thing and the user does it pretending like he did the job, while the truth is; he didn't write that. As you know, AI collects data from the internet. When a user asks a question, the AI searches on the internet and it shows the result that is available on the internet. So, it is a kind of plagiarism as well. However, Altcoinstalks moderators already taking action against those AI spammers! The admin working on it as well. 
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2024, 01:41:51 PM »
So, it is a kind of plagiarism as well. However, Altcoinstalks moderators already taking action against those AI spammers! The admin working on it as well.
Yep, that's right, replying to topics using AI can be called plagiarism and this is really painful.
Moderator and Admin work seems very busy this year because the sophistication of AI is very strong for all members to do.
But for the campaign part, it seems that the Bounty Manager has an even harder task because he has to check in detail every post from all members who join the campaign.

For learning and notification to all members, the use of AI to make this post should be more negative and in my opinion it is better to avoid using this AI in the altcoinstalks forum. IMO :)

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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2024, 01:50:19 PM »
Hi there.

I am sorry if there were similar threads or if it has been answered before. But, I have asked the question somewhere else and I didn't get the answer. I guess the admin or the president didn't see that. I would like to ask again if AI-generated content should be allowed or not. Generating content with AI and Copy pasting posts from other sources (Which is plagiarism) should be the similar (if not same) offense and they should be punished. I would like to hear the community feedback and comments from admin or officials would be appreciated.


I don't think it's a good thing or something to support
the forum is used to let humans talk to each other and discuss, why should I argue with an artificial intelligence?
in my opinion it also makes sense to generate content with an AI for a blog, or for a video or whatever you want
but when you chat it doesn't make much sense to use it
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #72 on: January 29, 2024, 07:06:08 PM »
But for the campaign part, it seems that the Bounty Manager has an even harder task because he has to check in detail every post from all members who join the campaign.

Yes. The job is harder for them as well. But, as you may know, the manager can't check every post with some AI detector tool to catch AI spammer. Instead, A manager AB de Royse777 offered a bounty for his signature campaign. If anyone can catch an AI spammer from his signature campaign participants, the participant will be kicked out of the campaign and the person who caught them will receive the payment for that week or similar. I don't remember the exact offer. But it was similar to this. I hope the admin will come up with something new. A few days ago he said Ai fighting was coming soon or something like that.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #73 on: January 29, 2024, 07:34:14 PM »
Sounds good.
It's not hard for the active users to prove themself. As I can see, a new moderator has been assigned and I am happy about it. At least we could report, and a local mod would be able to handle those reports. I don't want to rush into anything. I don't want to be a mod by spending a few days only. But I thought you guys will reply me. I have been in Bitcointalk for over a year and earned around 750 Merits. But, I have to prove myself here as well. It's good to know that you guys take allrequestst into account. Probably I may bump my application after a few more months.

Everything takes time @Learn Bitcoin. It is true that the forum needs more moderators, especially for the local sections. But it is something that we must do carefully, we cannot put someone who we do not know how they will react to problems or someone who at a certain time has not followed the rules of the forum, This is not your case, it is just an example.

After the period of time that I talk about in another of my posts, we will have a better idea of ​​​​who may be the users who would best play the role of moderators.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #74 on: January 29, 2024, 08:02:59 PM »

Yes. The job is harder for them as well. But, as you may know, the manager can't check every post with some AI detector tool to catch AI spammer. Instead, A manager AB de Royse777 offered a bounty for his signature campaign. If anyone can catch an AI spammer from his signature campaign participants, the participant will be kicked out of the campaign and the person who caught them will receive the payment for that week or similar. I don't remember the exact offer. But it was similar to this. I hope the admin will come up with something new. A few days ago he said Ai fighting was coming soon or something like that.

I remember something like this being setup by AB de royse777 in Bitcointalk, did he still include it in altcointalk?

Recently a campaign participant was caught using AI generated post to complete his post quota, if I had known I would have directed who caught him to Royse so that he can claim his reward, seems like he’s already too late probably the next person that might be lucky enough to catch another lazy campaign participant using ai.
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