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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #165 on: September 01, 2024, 11:44:27 AM »
True, the main thing in this case is for the problem gambler to honestly admit to himself that he has a problem with gambling. And not pretend. Because many problem gamblers, when they are sent for treatment, begin to pretend in order to leave this place as soon as possible. And they look like good actors. They are ready to lie even to the closest people in order to get out of the place where they are trying to cure them of gambling habits.

As you correctly point out, self-admission of gambling addiction is important, but it is not the only way to help a gambler overcome his addiction. The only reason it is important for a gambler to admit that he is addicted is that doing so indicates that you are willing to try anything to overcome your addiction. But that is not all that is required.

For example, admitting that I am sick with malaria does not cure the disease. I will still have to take medications to help me heal. This means that once an addict recognizes his addiction, it becomes easier to help him because he will carefully follow any instructions given to him. Obeying a behavioural therapist's instructions is key to overcoming gambling addiction.

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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #166 on: September 01, 2024, 02:53:18 PM »
True, the main thing in this case is for the problem gambler to honestly admit to himself that he has a problem with gambling. And not pretend. Because many problem gamblers, when they are sent for treatment, begin to pretend in order to leave this place as soon as possible. And they look like good actors. They are ready to lie even to the closest people in order to get out of the place where they are trying to cure them of gambling habits.
Yes, it's all about compliance,  it's very important for the affected victim to first admit that he I addicted and also comply 100% with people proposing and offering help to him towards ensuring that e gets the adequate help he requires in order to break free from that addiction. Because if the victim shows an atom of resistance due to not realizing or admitting he's addicted, or because of fear of being criticized by friends and family, it'll be very difficult or even impossible for him to break free.
And it's just quite unfortunate that a lot of people are suffering from gambling addiction and yet do not even realize it, it is when the addiction has done them an unrecoverable damage that they'll realize it, then it'll look like there's no more turning back, and at this point, some of them even attempt suicide due to being out of options of getting themselves out of the mess.

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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #167 on: September 01, 2024, 04:09:43 PM »

Gambling requires a strong skill of self-analysis. After all, no one can help a problem gambler except himself. He must always understand his mistakes, and not everyone can do this. Plus, I believe that gambling addiction is one of the strongest. And if someone wants to get rid of it, he needs to come up with a way to fence himself off from gambling advertising.
Indeed, it'll be almost impossible for an addicted gambler to break free from a gambling addiction if he doesn't even admit that he's addicted or willing to enforce a change in his habits,  he must first acknowledge and admit the fact that he is addicted and then he should also recognise the negative impact the habit is causing on him, only then can he truly understand the magnitude of the issue and then willing to accept change. Otherwise he may even feel insulted or bullied whenever the issue of his addiction pops up, because he hasn't really acknowledged that he's addicted, neither does he feel the negative impact of the addiction.
This way he can be able to accept changes  and would also do everything possible to set a shield around himself so he wouldn't fall into that adduction again.
True, the main thing in this case is for the problem gambler to honestly admit to himself that he has a problem with gambling. And not pretend. Because many problem gamblers, when they are sent for treatment, begin to pretend in order to leave this place as soon as possible. And they look like good actors. They are ready to lie even to the closest people in order to get out of the place where they are trying to cure them of gambling habits.

As you correctly point out, self-admission of gambling addiction is important, but it is not the only way to help a gambler overcome his addiction. The only reason it is important for a gambler to admit that he is addicted is that doing so indicates that you are willing to try anything to overcome your addiction. But that is not all that is required. For example, admitting that I am sick with malaria does not cure the disease. I will still have to take medications to help me heal. This means that once an addict recognizes his addiction, it becomes easier to help him because he will carefully follow any instructions given to him. Obeying a behavioural therapist's instructions is key to overcoming gambling addiction.
You got that good point right there mate. You are correct that when we admit of something like addiction it didn't end there. Cooperation and showing our serious intent to really change or being rehab or cured from that specific disorder will help us get the best time to recover and that is what is important in that kind of situation.

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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #168 on: September 01, 2024, 06:29:14 PM »
You got that good point right there mate. You are correct that when we admit of something like addiction it didn't end there. Cooperation and showing our serious intent to really change or being rehab or cured from that specific disorder will help us get the best time to recover and that is what is important in that kind of situation.
Definitely.
I mean how exactly can a doctor know just the best remedy to administer to his patient if the patient refuses to open up or come out clean to the doctor how he's actually feeling and how the illness is affecting him. Same thing goes for a patient who also approaches a Councillor or Therapist, its very important for the person to come out clean before he can really receive the adequate attention he needs.
Our willingness to change or quit the addiction is very essential,  as a matter of fact, it's the first and most important step towards fighting and stopping an addiction,  not just in gambling addiction but also in other forms of addictions too. Taking a a drug addict to rehab isn't just enough, it's just like the popular saying  one can only drag a horse or donkey to the Riverside or stream  but that doesn't guarantee the horse would drink from the stream.  Same is applicable in this case too.

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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #169 on: September 01, 2024, 06:57:44 PM »
Why not try to self-exclude from casinos? I know that it is impossible to self-exclude from every single casino, but gamblers usually gamble in bunch of favorites casinos only. Addicted gamblers will search for new casinos, but their case is different, they have a mental problem and they need to find someone who will fix their mind to quite gambling. For a person who is simply gambling regularly, self-exclusion might be a solution.
Self-exclusion is difficult if we continue to open casinos every day, it feels difficult to stop unless you do slowly leave the casino games that were often playing try playing once a week or once a month if you feel that you are comfortable with the way then you can stop.

But for disciplined gamblers they will not worry because they don't spend a lot of money, usually they have set a bankroll for gambling so that they don't overdo it, which means they don't return money in gambling.

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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #170 on: September 01, 2024, 08:39:09 PM »

Gambling requires a strong skill of self-analysis. After all, no one can help a problem gambler except himself. He must always understand his mistakes, and not everyone can do this. Plus, I believe that gambling addiction is one of the strongest. And if someone wants to get rid of it, he needs to come up with a way to fence himself off from gambling advertising.
Indeed, it'll be almost impossible for an addicted gambler to break free from a gambling addiction if he doesn't even admit that he's addicted or willing to enforce a change in his habits,  he must first acknowledge and admit the fact that he is addicted and then he should also recognise the negative impact the habit is causing on him, only then can he truly understand the magnitude of the issue and then willing to accept change. Otherwise he may even feel insulted or bullied whenever the issue of his addiction pops up, because he hasn't really acknowledged that he's addicted, neither does he feel the negative impact of the addiction.
This way he can be able to accept changes  and would also do everything possible to set a shield around himself so he wouldn't fall into that adduction again.
True, the main thing in this case is for the problem gambler to honestly admit to himself that he has a problem with gambling. And not pretend. Because many problem gamblers, when they are sent for treatment, begin to pretend in order to leave this place as soon as possible. And they look like good actors. They are ready to lie even to the closest people in order to get out of the place where they are trying to cure them of gambling habits.

As you correctly point out, self-admission of gambling addiction is important, but it is not the only way to help a gambler overcome his addiction. The only reason it is important for a gambler to admit that he is addicted is that doing so indicates that you are willing to try anything to overcome your addiction. But that is not all that is required. For example, admitting that I am sick with malaria does not cure the disease. I will still have to take medications to help me heal. This means that once an addict recognizes his addiction, it becomes easier to help him because he will carefully follow any instructions given to him. Obeying a behavioural therapist's instructions is key to overcoming gambling addiction.
You got that good point right there mate. You are correct that when we admit of something like addiction it didn't end there. Cooperation and showing our serious intent to really change or being rehab or cured from that specific disorder will help us get the best time to recover and that is what is important in that kind of situation.
A gambler might admit that he is an addict and still choose not to come out from addiction because he feels that he has lost everything to gambling and will prefer to continue, believing that he will win huge amount someday. This is the problem some gamblers have, they feel quitting the game when losing means that you are weak and they don't want to accept defeat. I have a friend that is addicted to gambling but to the point of misbehaving, he told me that he is gambling to make profit. It is only when an addicted gambler has determined to leave his addiction that you can help him overcome it, otherwise, your effort will be in vain.

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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #171 on: September 01, 2024, 08:58:10 PM »
Why not try to self-exclude from casinos? I know that it is impossible to self-exclude from every single casino, but gamblers usually gamble in bunch of favorites casinos only. Addicted gamblers will search for new casinos, but their case is different, they have a mental problem and they need to find someone who will fix their mind to quite gambling. For a person who is simply gambling regularly, self-exclusion might be a solution.
Self-exclusion is difficult if we continue to open casinos every day, it feels difficult to stop unless you do slowly leave the casino games that were often playing try playing once a week or once a month if you feel that you are comfortable with the way then you can stop.

But for disciplined gamblers they will not worry because they don't spend a lot of money, usually they have set a bankroll for gambling so that they don't overdo it, which means they don't return money in gambling.
Stopping completely on doing gambling then this is something that starting up into your own mind because on the time that you have plans on stopping but the actions you are making is totally opposite on what you do like to happen then it would really be pointless because you will really be still doing it no matter what. This is why it is really that something that recommended
that if you do really want to quit or stop then you should mean it. it would really be that too impossible that you wont be able to stop if you are really that serious.
It really just that a matter of self control and awareness about the things that you are really that into and dont wait up for the things to become worst before you do stop.

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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #172 on: September 01, 2024, 10:47:12 PM »
A gambler might admit that he is an addict and still choose not to come out from addiction because he feels that he has lost everything to gambling and will prefer to continue, believing that he will win huge amount someday. This is the problem some gamblers have, they feel quitting the game when losing means that you are weak and they don't want to accept defeat. I have a friend that is addicted to gambling but to the point of misbehaving, he told me that he is gambling to make profit. It is only when an addicted gambler has determined to leave his addiction that you can help him overcome it, otherwise, your effort will be in vain.
You're right, some gamblers feel it's too late to turn back because they've lost way too much already so they continue with hopes of hitting it big just as you've rightly said. But have you seen a gambler who has lost everything,  I mean everything,  with debts piled up, with no hopes or means of repayment,  do you still believe that such a person would still consider continuing to gamble as a viable option?
Definitely not, because the only thing on his mind would be getting help and then have a clear mind to think and look for ways to raise money and repay all his debt...
Well, it's all about perspective and each individual may have different reactions when faced with such a situation.

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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #173 on: September 01, 2024, 11:19:17 PM »
Why not try to self-exclude from casinos? I know that it is impossible to self-exclude from every single casino, but gamblers usually gamble in bunch of favorites casinos only. Addicted gamblers will search for new casinos, but their case is different, they have a mental problem and they need to find someone who will fix their mind to quite gambling. For a person who is simply gambling regularly, self-exclusion might be a solution.
Self-exclusion is difficult if we continue to open casinos every day, it feels difficult to stop unless you do slowly leave the casino games that were often playing try playing once a week or once a month if you feel that you are comfortable with the way then you can stop.

But for disciplined gamblers they will not worry because they don't spend a lot of money, usually they have set a bankroll for gambling so that they don't overdo it, which means they don't return money in gambling.
Actually, it doesn't matter if someone wants to stop gambling, if possible we should not fall back into gambling, no matter how disciplined a gambler is, I think in the long run they will go crazy and become addicted and forget about their surroundings.

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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #174 on: September 02, 2024, 10:29:03 PM »
I have said this dozen of times when i wanted to quit smoking and drinking but more than dozen that i failed myself .

so Instead of saying ?i did my best to forget those vises and i won.

same as in gambling, when i am still active , i use totell myself each time I lose that I will quit gambling but never that i won against this until  my wife helps me with it .

There's a popular phrase that gamblers always use "gamblers quit before winning" this mentality has put a lot of people in trouble, they have forgotten that gambling is just all about luck so they keep playing with the hope of getting their losses back one day, this is what fuels their addiction. Telling yourself that you will stop are just mere words you must take action if you are willing to make a change. Breaking an addiction has to do with a lot of decision making

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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #175 on: September 03, 2024, 06:06:46 AM »
So if someone will quit, it's takes a lot of his emotions, thoughts and his mentality to be in sync so that he can get out of gambling for good and then have normalized his relationships to his family.

It is always good to Normalize relationships with the Family , in the chaos that is possible , I personally am a person who always does that, but sometimes within the same family nucleus there are people that no matter how much you Want to help , you can't Expect anything good from them , so Sometimes family relationships are merely acts of diplomacy as a measure of Respect for older Adults , but it is Something that is not worth the Effort , so based on this, you should have or Try to have some Harmony with your closest family Members, or with those who are always there, that is my advice, having a high emotional intelligence is good.
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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #176 on: September 03, 2024, 07:38:07 AM »
I have said this dozen of times when i wanted to quit smoking and drinking but more than dozen that i failed myself .

so Instead of saying ?i did my best to forget those vises and i won.

same as in gambling, when i am still active , i use totell myself each time I lose that I will quit gambling but never that i won against this until  my wife helps me with it .

There's a popular phrase that gamblers always use "gamblers quit before winning" this mentality has put a lot of people in trouble, they have forgotten that gambling is just all about luck so they keep playing with the hope of getting their losses back one day, this is what fuels their addiction. Telling yourself that you will stop are just mere words you must take action if you are willing to make a change. Breaking an addiction has to do with a lot of decision making
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I also agree with your opinion, gambling addiction is a big trap for many people. When a gambler loses money gambling, he keeps playing to recover his lost money. Every time he loses, he thinks that the next game will make up for all his losses, and thus he becomes addicted to gambling. And later it becomes very difficult to get out of this addiction.
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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #177 on: September 03, 2024, 01:45:31 PM »
Some years ago I was quite addicted to video games. When I was much younger, I often spend time playing them, when I grew up and found work, I have started collecting games. I ended with buying games, storing them on the shelve and never even open disc box. Some might say that this was my hobby, but I took to the level, when I spend hours checking marketplaces for a games that I dont have. The help with my buying video games came with finding another hobby or time spender. Riding motorcycle, buying mods and maintaining motorcycle is my new passion. Maybe for gambling addicted, finding other (positive) addiction might become a solution.
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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #178 on: September 03, 2024, 04:23:03 PM »
Actually, it doesn't matter if someone wants to stop gambling, if possible we should not fall back into gambling, no matter how disciplined a gambler is, I think in the long run they will go crazy and become addicted and forget about their surroundings.

I think that is why people or some players withdraw from the casinos or cancel their account so as not to gamble again. They prefer to do that before falling into temptation, which seems very difficult to me, because in part they are protecting themselves, but they know that their emotions, that their mind will lead them to fall into this again. I think that this type of thing is quite strong for people who suffer from it. In any addiction, whatever it may be, it is very difficult to get out of them, but not impossible. I think that everything begins with willpower.
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Re: I will quite gambling... Easy said than done
« Reply #179 on: September 11, 2024, 07:15:12 PM »
All I can say here is that despite loosing, you were probably gambling responsibly and didn't go out of your budget, if you are that type that doesn't listen to gambling management, you will probably go broke and nobody will even advice you to quit, you will stop and delete anything that has to do with gambling forever.

Gambling isn't something you and then stop. It's not something you even quit when you win even though you have made some losses and made everything back. Just gamble responsibly and you will enjoy gambling on the long run because the more you play, the more expert you become with different style and logics to win.

A close friend of mine that's a gambler once said that most gamblers quit before the big win, this is quite a funny statement but it's actually what propels gambling addiction, this causes some sort of dependency syndrome that would make it hard to let go off because they are expecting to become successful from any of their multiple trials. just like you said it's difficult to stop but risk management can help you minimize your losses

 

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