BG shilling and forum actions!

[Lucius]

I come across more and more members who shill BG and projects related to that platform, and I wonder if it might be justified to filter every link and name of that platform in some way? I know that there are certain words that are "forbidden" and instead of which the forum automatically places a certain link, so I hope that the admin and the forum administration will consider this situation and remove such things from the forum.

I have already reported some members because of that and as far as I can see, some of them have become inactive (perhaps they have been banned), but there are obviously too many of them.

What I would especially warn the admin is to pay attention to the fact that these members are getting +karma from someone, and I doubt that that alt farm has at least one or more Senior rank accounts for that.

Let's look at just one example of how they operate:

User @Joseph Lee opened the topic - and if we look at his post history, we can see that he is BG shill, while another member (@MCcabe Rory) joins the conversation who is also a BG shill. His post history link.

Evidence was published on BTT that BG as a company hires and pays people to promote them in this way -> Innovative Shilling

[Zed0X]

Yeah, I noticed the influx as well and also tried to call out one of them as low key shill account. A lot of their posts were already moved to the incentivized posting, maybe admin could also hide that sub-board from guests? I think doing it further limits engagements but I could be wrong.

[Jokers]

I try to catch them when I see and give the registered warnings for shilling and delete obviously spammy posts, but right you are, there are many of them. Sometimes I move their topics to the Incentivised Posting / Shill section, sometimes just trash these topics, especially when there are no replies and/or it is AI written. All beyond that is in admin's will.

[Freemind]

The two users mentioned in the OP (@MCcabe Rory and @Joseph Lee) have just joined the shillers group and have earned the group badge, and both have also received a warning. In the case of MCcabe Rory it is the fourth warning, so he also has a first strike,  Joseph Lee accumulates three warnings in total. If both users continue with the same behavior, the penalties will continue to increase.

[Lucius]

I try to catch them when I see and give the registered warnings for shilling and delete obviously spammy posts, but right you are, there are many of them. Sometimes I move their topics to the Incentivised Posting / Shill section, sometimes just trash these topics, especially when there are no replies and/or it is AI written. All beyond that is in admin's will.

I would just draw the attention of all members not to enter into discussions with such members, because that way you are only helping them to achieve their goal. Instead, we should all use the "report to moderator" button more - although it seems to me that "they" have dozens of accounts they use on this forum.

The two users mentioned in the OP (@MCcabe Rory and @Joseph Lee) have just joined the shillers group and have earned the group badge, and both have also received a warning. In the case of MCcabe Rory it is the fourth warning, so he also has a first strike,  Joseph Lee accumulates three warnings in total. If both users continue with the same behavior, the penalties will continue to increase.

I wish I was wrong, but those accounts were created with one goal in mind, and regardless of the fines, they will continue to use them for that goal. It would also be good (if possible) to investigate where their +karmas come from, because it seems to me that they cannot get them from someone naturally, but that they have a karma source that rewards them all.

[Freemind]

I wish I was wrong, but those accounts were created with one goal in mind, and regardless of the fines, they will continue to use them for that goal. It would also be good (if possible) to investigate where their +karmas come from, because it seems to me that they cannot get them from someone naturally, but that they have a karma source that rewards them all.

No, you are not wrong, those accounts are what they are, reviewing the post history we can see it clearly, maybe it should be called soft shilling.

If both users continue with the same behavior, the penalties will also increase, until they reach the point where they cannot post. I hope that doesn't happen though.

As for the karma of those two users, I don't think the amount of karma they have is unusual,  Joseph Lee have +6 and MCcabe Rory +1. Taking this post as a reference, if the amount of positive karma of both users grows unusually, I will ask the administrator to review the logs.

[Findingnemo]

Bitget shilling is growing day by day, today I saw many of them invaded reddit boards too. Thanks OP for mentioning my thread of BTT.

Anyway mods took swift actions that might hold them for now but I am sure they will come back with more new accounts to do the SEO spam no matter what so I assume the best solution to stop them is to put word filter as suggested by @hugeblack on the word Bitget, BGB or anything related to Bitget which for a week or two and see if it stops them invading again.

[electronicash]

they are not sponsoring sports team anymore but just shilling the exchange everywhere. i can see this to be the FTX2.0 after the bull run. it has all the signs of low budgeted scam.

as i don't think there is the need for a new international exchange, the crypto space has a lot of it already and then Bitget all of a sudden appear in the scene like it has an army of shillers.

[LogitechMouse]

they are not sponsoring sports team anymore but just shilling the exchange everywhere. i can see this to be the FTX2.0 after the bull run. it has all the signs of low budgeted scam.

as i don't think there is the need for a new international exchange, the crypto space has a lot of it already and then Bitget all of a sudden appear in the scene like it has an army of shillers.

Too early to judge TBH, but I hate the way they are promoting their exchange.
I mean the exchange has some kind of this campaign where they will promote the, in exchange for some rewards. They don't really care if they are shilling the exchange as long as they get paid.

I'm not supporting the exchange (even though I've seen them being promoted by numerous YouTube crypto influencers), but as long as they are operating and works fine, I don't see them as an FTX 2.0 until we are seeing signs of it to happen. We might see in the future. They might be one of the most popular exchanges, or they might follow what FTX did. As for me, I just don't want their way of advertising their exchange, and like others, I will start to report it as well. Here and in BTT.

[NotATether]

Shilling is dealt with appropriately on this forum TBH, where all such posts are moved to a special board for that (Incentivized Posting / Shill). But may I ask if there is anything shady that Bitget has been doing recently, or is it just advertisement spam that people are concerned about here.

I just want to make sure that we don't have sort of a 1xbit situation in our hands.

[babo]

I come across more and more members who shill BG and projects related to that platform, and I wonder if it might be justified to filter every link and name of that platform in some way? I know that there are certain words that are "forbidden" and instead of which the forum automatically places a certain link, so I hope that the admin and the forum administration will consider this situation and remove such things from the forum.

I have already reported some members because of that and as far as I can see, some of them have become inactive (perhaps they have been banned), but there are obviously too many of them.

What I would especially warn the admin is to pay attention to the fact that these members are getting +karma from someone, and I doubt that that alt farm has at least one or more Senior rank accounts for that.

Let's look at just one example of how they operate:

User @Joseph Lee opened the topic - and if we look at his post history, we can see that he is BG shill, while another member (@MCcabe Rory) joins the conversation who is also a BG shill. His post history link.

Evidence was published on BTT that BG as a company hires and pays people to promote them in this way -> Innovative Shilling

they are definitely very aggressive campaigns, but it depends on who posts what and when in my opinion
it is definitely necessary to filter when you overdo it

I also shilled some coins in a specific thread that I created, without being a nuisance and without spamming excessively (a separate thread that tells about the new promising coins launched by BG)

it always depends on who does what and how they do it

[Jokers]

I would just draw the attention of all members not to enter into discussions with such members, because that way you are only helping them to achieve their goal. Instead, we should all use the "report to moderator" button more - although it seems to me that "they" have dozens of accounts they use on this forum.

That's right, if there are no discussions with them, it's much easier to moderate this shilling spam, it will more likely go to trash. And right, there are many shills, lust time I made a list several months ago there definitely were more that a dozen in it. And the number is growing with time.

[Lucius]

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As for the karma of those two users, I don't think the amount of karma they have is unusual,  Joseph Lee have +6 and MCcabe Rory +1. Taking this post as a reference, if the amount of positive karma of both users grows unusually, I will ask the administrator to review the logs.

It's just strange to me that someone gives +karma for such posts, even if it's only 6 karma or something similar - and I've noticed that even when I give them negative karma, they get + from someone again the very next day. If it were determined that all these accounts receive +karma from the same user, then we would have clear evidence of karma abuse.

Bitget shilling is growing day by day, today I saw many of them invaded reddit boards too. Thanks OP for mentioning my thread of BTT.
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You put their activity back on the agenda, but I started hunting them even before that on BTT, and when their posts start to be deleted and they start getting temporary bans, only then do they calm down a bit.

they are definitely very aggressive campaigns, but it depends on who posts what and when in my opinion
it is definitely necessary to filter when you overdo it
I also shilled some coins in a specific thread that I created, without being a nuisance and without spamming excessively (a separate thread that tells about the new promising coins launched by BG)
it always depends on who does what and how they do it

That's your position, but I don't agree that it's a normal way for someone to advertise. At BTT, we have a clear rule that advertising in posts is not allowed, and if someone mentions one and the same company in 15 out of 20 posts, then it is quite clear what they are doing. Those who advertise in this way are trying to be smart, but in fact they are only creating a bad image of themselves - I put such companies on the black list and would never use any services from them.

[bitterguy28]

Bitget shilling is growing day by day, today I saw many of them invaded reddit boards too. Thanks OP for mentioning my thread of BTT.

Anyway mods took swift actions that might hold them for now but I am sure they will come back with more new accounts to do the SEO spam no matter what so I assume the best solution to stop them is to put word filter as suggested by @hugeblack on the word Bitget, BGB or anything related to Bitget which for a week or two and see if it stops them invading again.

I am ignoring each account that I found Shilling for Bitget and yeah thats from BTT now here in ATT because I believe that those are the account that will keep popping each time to try luring people to be their victims.
isn't  better for admin to instantly banning those accounts as its obviously shill for BG?

[Freemind]

Bitget shilling is growing day by day, today I saw many of them invaded reddit boards too. Thanks OP for mentioning my thread of BTT.

Anyway mods took swift actions that might hold them for now but I am sure they will come back with more new accounts to do the SEO spam no matter what so I assume the best solution to stop them is to put word filter as suggested by @hugeblack on the word Bitget, BGB or anything related to Bitget which for a week or two and see if it stops them invading again.

Well, there are many ways to look at it. I think that the sent warnings and shillers badges are "enough" for those users to see what they are doing, and if they look for a little information on the forum about what has happened to the accounts, they will read this thread and as I said, if they continue doing the same the penalties will also increase. I don't think filtering out the word "Bitget" is the solution right now since there are mainly only two users, but it's something I'll leave a note about.

I mean the exchange has some kind of this campaign where they will promote the, in exchange for some rewards. They don't really care if they are shilling the exchange as long as they get paid.

I think it is very clear that the exchange practices we are talking about are not the best and that they could do things much better and in a professional manner.

It's just strange to me that someone gives +karma for such posts, even if it's only 6 karma or something similar - and I've noticed that even when I give them negative karma, they get + from someone again the very next day. If it were determined that all these accounts receive +karma from the same user, then we would have clear evidence of karma abuse.

You may be right, but I think it is early to make such statements. Anyway, I don't think those users will have positive karma for a long time. If you look at their profiles you will see that they do not have the same positive karma as they did 24 hours ago. In case the karma of both users increases, the administrator will be able to check who is sending that karma. I think that since the amount are so small, it will not be the same user who sends it, but at the moment I don't think it is worrying.