BG shilling and forum actions!

[Freemind]

BG shills in action again - as far as I can see, user @BitHunter (post history) is already marked as "watched", but we have a new one @Jomisa (post history).

+1 -> Smcchamp

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Thanks for notifying us. @Jokers already sent two warnings to BitHunter. If there is a third warning, the user will have his first strike and a PM to remind him of the forum rules, and the possible consequences if that user's behavior remains the same.

+1.

[Lucius]

BG shills in action again - as far as I can see, user @BitHunter (post history) is already marked as "watched", but we have a new one @Jomisa (post history).

+1 -> Smcchamp

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Thanks for notifying us. @Jokers already sent two warnings to BitHunter. If there is a third warning, the user will have his first strike and a PM to remind him of the forum rules, and the possible consequences if that user's behavior remains the same.

+1.

You're welcome

It seems to me that the warnings have no effect since they behave in the same way, it is enough to look at the latest achievements in this topic -> @BitHunter & @Smcchamp

[Jokers]

You're welcome

It seems to me that the warnings have no effect since they behave in the same way, it is enough to look at the latest achievements in this topic -> @BitHunter & @Smcchamp

Well, they got additional warnings and at least that will make their posts premoderated for a while. I'm sure they'll hardly stop so later there will be stricter measures. Bitget makes the very bad reputation for itself, promoting via spam is a very bad idea.

[Freemind]

You're welcome

It seems to me that the warnings have no effect since they behave in the same way, it is enough to look at the latest achievements in this topic -> @BitHunter & @Smcchamp

Both users have received another warning, so @BitHunter will not be able to post for a few days and @Smcchamp for a few hours. Anyway, it's the third warning they've received, so the next step, if their behavior remains the same, will be to send strikes. If after receiving the strikes they continue the same, they will be added to a group until they want to talk to a moderator or with the admin, in case they want to recover their accounts.

[Lucius]

Well, they got additional warnings and at least that will make their posts premoderated for a while. I'm sure they'll hardly stop so later there will be stricter measures. Bitget makes the very bad reputation for itself, promoting via spam is a very bad idea.

It is not clear to me why they choose such a bad tactic, but it is obvious that there are a lot of forums and social networks where no one moderates them and that such tactics obviously produce results. I saw the pay rates for their shills somewhere and it is not at all clear to me that they are motivated to work for so little. It is possible that most of their accounts here on the forum are controlled by one or two people.

Both users have received another warning, so @BitHunter will not be able to post for a few days and @Smcchamp for a few hours. Anyway, it's the third warning they've received, so the next step, if their behavior remains the same, will be to send strikes. If after receiving the strikes they continue the same, they will be added to a group until they want to talk to a moderator or with the admin, in case they want to recover their accounts.

Thank you for your involvement in these cases, and also @Jokers - I hope they will get the message and stop what they are doing.

[Lucius]

New BG shills ->

Smilez - post history
Nothabeast - post history
Crypto_Potato - post history

Topic in which the discussion takes place -> Link


GeneralEth - post history

Topic -> Link


BattleAxe1 - post history
akeemqaz - post history

Topic -> Link


This is only a part of those that I am completely sure about, but there are at least as many that I suspect are part of the BG team, but they do not mention them directly but shill various tokens/projects that are part of that platform. I don't know if it makes sense to apply a warning strategy here, because the deeper I dig, it seems to me that there are dozens of active users who are involved in this.

[mu_enrico]

I scratch my head while typing this... BTT is meant for BTC shills, and ALTT is meant for altcoin shills, as far as I understand. If the post isn't spammy or filled with links, Bitget (yes, I said it) shouldn't be censored. There's still merit in discussing even crappy Shiba tokens.

Anyway, do what you like, but remember this forum is still small, so the mentality should be much more lenient than BTT.

[yahoo62278]

I don't see the big deal myself honestly. How is it any different than someone saying mixtum a billion times or stake.com a billion times? What if they opened a signature campaign? Then it's ok? Someone really needs to explain to me what the issue is here cause I sincerely do not understand it.

[Freemind]

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All of the users you listed have received warnings, some have already received more than one warning before, so the next step, if their attitude persists,  will be to apply strikes.

Thank you for your effort and support of the forum.

+2.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I scratch my head while typing this... BTT is meant for BTC shills, and ALTT is meant for altcoin shills, as far as I understand. If the post isn't spammy or filled with links, Bitget (yes, I said it) shouldn't be censored. There's still merit in discussing even crappy Shiba tokens.

Anyway, do what you like, but remember this forum is still small, so the mentality should be much more lenient than BTT.

I don't see the big deal myself honestly. How is it any different than someone saying mixtum a billion times or stake.com a billion times? What if they opened a signature campaign? Then it's ok? Someone really needs to explain to me what the issue is here cause I sincerely do not understand it.

Sincerely agree with the both of you, I came here through the link in the chat box on the first page, and after going through a few comments here, I was completely lost, had to go to the first page to read the op so as to understand what this thread is really about, and in the op, I was still confused what "BG" mean or meant, I had to go through the posts histories of the reported users to learn that it means "Bitget".

I honestly see no reason why a user should receive warnings, strikes or worst of all; a ban for just mentioning a word multiple times in different comments, not minding if the comment is in line with the topic being discussed on the said thread, Bitget is a cryptocurrency exchange, and this forum is a place to discuss all that relates to crypto which obviously; Bitget is part of, I don't understand what this censorship is all about, are the supposed shillers spamming(posting stuffs that is not related to the topic being discussed)? Using too many links in their comments? Or perhaps, they are posting their Bitget referral links in boards where referral links are banned? Which of this crime are they commiting?

I am just trying to understand @Lucius

[Smcchamp]

I scratch my head while typing this... BTT is meant for BTC shills, and ALTT is meant for altcoin shills, as far as I understand. If the post isn't spammy or filled with links, Bitget (yes, I said it) shouldn't be censored. There's still merit in discussing even crappy Shiba tokens.

Anyway, do what you like, but remember this forum is still small, so the mentality should be much more lenient than BTT.

I don't see the big deal myself honestly. How is it any different than someone saying mixtum a billion times or stake.com a billion times? What if they opened a signature campaign? Then it's ok? Someone really needs to explain to me what the issue is here cause I sincerely do not understand it.

Sincerely agree with the both of you, I came here through the link in the chat box on the first page, and after going through a few comments here, I was completely lost, had to go to the first page to read the op so as to understand what this thread is really about, and in the op, I was still confused what "BG" mean or meant, I had to go through the posts histories of the reported users to learn that it means "Bitget".

I honestly see no reason why a user should receive warnings, strikes or worst of all; a ban for just mentioning a word multiple times in different comments, not minding if the comment is in line with the topic being discussed on the said thread, Bitget is a cryptocurrency exchange, and this forum is a place to discuss all that relates to crypto which obviously; Bitget is part of, I don't understand what this censorship is all about, are the supposed shillers spamming(posting stuffs that is not related to the topic being discussed)? Using too many links in their comments? Or perhaps, they are posting their Bitget referral links in boards where referral links are banned? Which of this crime are they commiting?

I am just trying to understand @Lucius

I'm also confused what Im reading here. Is it a crime to share my experience in a platform I'm using? I see forum members mention other exchanges or platforms in their post and they're not branded. This is unfair really. Looks personal to me.. I'll like it to be pointed out exclusively while this is a problem cos I thought this is a free space to share views about altcoins and crypto related issues.

[Lucius]

It's really unfortunate to see members I've known for a long time with BTT actually support shilling of this scale - but they all obviously think that ATT is a forum where such things should be tolerated because it's quite normal for one company to employ dozens of members (some of whom are obviously alts) and pay them to create fake discussions with only one intention.

All these members are paid every time they mention that company, post a link or even when they promote tokens issued by that company. Luckily, there are a few important people on the forum who know what it's about, so I know I'm not doing anything wrong.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

It's really unfortunate to see members I've known for a long time with BTT actually support shilling of this scale - but they all obviously think that ATT is a forum where such things should be tolerated because it's quite normal for one company to employ dozens of members (some of whom are obviously alts) and pay them to create fake discussions with only one intention.

All these members are paid every time they mention that company, post a link or even when they promote tokens issued by that company. Luckily, there are a few important people on the forum who know what it's about, so I know I'm not doing anything wrong.

Side note is - even the head of states In my country, being an important and number 1 person in the entire country, has done alot of things wrong which the entire people of my country is suffering from today, so in essence, being backed by important people does not always mean that what you are doing is right, and don't misquote me, I am just emphasizing on what you said.

And now to my opinion, forgive me if I am being insensitive, or ignorant, creating fake discussions seeking engagements is something I believe we are all guilty of, every one of us do this from time to time, if not for anything, for the signature ad we are wearing - let's tell ourselves the truth.

Every one on the internet are looking for one way or the other to make money, and for some of us, we are privileged to wear signatures, what about those who do not have this privilege yet? If signature is banned on this forum, will you still be here? And or as active as you currently are? I believe that for more than one, two, three or more times, you have forced yourself to post (when you don't feel like it) because you wanna meet your quota for the week - isnt that fake too? Doing something to get paid, not because you naturally want to or feel like doing it - once again, let's be truthful to ourselves.

I am not trying to challenge you, or challenge the important people backing you on this quest of yours, but I personally dont see anything wrong if a user or some users decide to get paid for discussing crypto exchange(s), or creating discussions centered around a particular crypto exchange, as long as they are..
1. Not spamming other people's thread (posting comments that are off topic)
2. Not posting referral links in the wrong board, or fake links
3. Posts relating to the exchange is in the right board
4. Exchange being talked about is not a scam.

This is my candid opinion, and no intensions of offending anyone.

And for reference, I don't have any Alt on this forum yet, though I have plans of creating an account for my wife, which I know I may end up being the one to manage it, as my wife is still yet to get serious with crypto stuffs.

[Jokers]

I honestly see no reason why a user should receive warnings, strikes or worst of all; a ban for just mentioning a word multiple times in different comments

When you trash the discussions with an incentivized posting, you are disturbing other users who are interested to discuss some topic. Big number of incentivized posts makes communication very hard and users start leaving. We don't want that, so shilling is not tolerated.

If the wanted fairly to represent the exchange and tokens promoted by it, they'd opened the corresponding topics in the appropriate sections, one per project, with all the official information. But the prefer to litter on the uniform...

[yahoo62278]

I honestly see no reason why a user should receive warnings, strikes or worst of all; a ban for just mentioning a word multiple times in different comments

When you trash the discussions with an incentivized posting, you are disturbing other users who are interested to discuss some topic. Big number of incentivized posts makes communication very hard and users start leaving. We don't want that, so shilling is not tolerated.

If the wanted fairly to represent the exchange and tokens promoted by it, they'd opened the corresponding topics in the appropriate sections, one per project, with all the official information. But the prefer to litter on the uniform...

I think his point was mostly geared signatures and the fact that some people feel forced to post in topics they are really clueless about.

It's really unfortunate to see members I've known for a long time with BTT actually support shilling of this scale - but they all obviously think that ATT is a forum where such things should be tolerated because it's quite normal for one company to employ dozens of members (some of whom are obviously alts) and pay them to create fake discussions with only one intention.

All these members are paid every time they mention that company, post a link or even when they promote tokens issued by that company. Luckily, there are a few important people on the forum who know what it's about, so I know I'm not doing anything wrong.

I haven't really looked into the bitget crap, I've seen the thread here and on bitcointalk though. I am not necessarily supporting their shilling but rather have questions about what they are doing wrong.

Reading Jokers post helps a little by saying if they open a topic in the appropriate area and have a discussion it's fine, but where do we draw the line on shilling? Everyone wearing a sig could be guilty of shilling in some form or another. Do we know for a fact that people saying Bitget are getting paid everytime they say it? I have said it twice in this post, do they owe me money?

Yea I know i'm being a smartass kind of, but forums puzzle me at times with their rules and such. Then this person gets mad and that person gets mad and now I don't like you or you don't like me or whatever. Just feels like a high school atmosphere at times.