England has never been a great tournament team, to be fair there have been a lot of great english players before and yet we have seen not that many achievements from them as a national team, whenever bunch of amazing english players get together, they become terrible as a team, no idea why. So it is not really a shock that they failed to get a win today, I am pretty sure they are going to go up the stage anyway, but feels like it is going to be still not a win for them afterwards. As soon as they face someone who is semi decent, they are going to end up losing without a doubt, its just matter of time.