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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #405 on: July 11, 2024, 11:14:30 AM »
The outright odds for the Euro 2024 are in and are as follows:
Spain: x1.65
England: x2.20
So pretty much as expected. As I said before, I don't think England is as strong of a team as Germany or France, so I agree with Spain being the favourite, but England is not without a chance. They'll have this extra motivation from being an underdog and more pressure will be on Spaniards.

Considering how good Spain has been right from the beginning of this league I can imagine the kind of pressure England will be on the finals because already they have shown so much weakness on this season by playing very poor, perhaps in as much as I don't believe so much on luck but in the case of England is only luck they even managed to qualify from there group stage till the very point they are now.

However I believe that Spain will be rejoicing were they are now because it has become obvious that at the end they would be victorious because England is nothing compare to so many countries they have won especially France, so actually if England played with the pattern they use on there match against Netherlands they would be surprised to see the number of goals Spain will actually score them.

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #406 on: July 11, 2024, 11:43:18 AM »
Also in my opinion the favorite remains Spain, the only team that has shown real continuity in its game.
Apart from the match against Italy which showed a sort of weakness against very defensive teams, in practice we discovered that his attack is not effective if well controlled.
In fact, with Italy he only scored an own goal.
For the rest, Spain deserves to win.
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #407 on: July 11, 2024, 12:41:05 PM »
Besides Italy, I'm also a bit disappointed that Portugal is eliminated by France. Portugal has played quite well but they were defeated in penalty shootout. Portugal is one of the teams that is favored to be the champion in this Euro. And German also left the competition quite early, but Spain deserves to beat them. Because Spain defeated big teams, I also support Spain in the final round.
Here is my opinion, until the match against Spain, France played really badly, they played like crap.  In fact, he didnt deserve to go to the semi-finals.  With Spain I saw a different France, motivated, bad at the right level.  In fact I really liked the match, France Spain.  I complimented them both and saw a beautiful France.
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #408 on: July 11, 2024, 02:58:00 PM »
Also in my opinion the favorite remains Spain, the only team that has shown real continuity in its game.
Apart from the match against Italy which showed a sort of weakness against very defensive teams, in practice we discovered that his attack is not effective if well controlled.
In fact, with Italy he only scored an own goal.
For the rest, Spain deserves to win.
I also think the same about who will ultimately be the champion at Euro this time. And yes, my predictions might also be more inclined to choose Spain as champions this season. England still look unconvincing even though they continue to have good luck at this Euro. but I have to admit that in the match against the Netherlands we saw England play a little better than usual.

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #409 on: July 11, 2024, 03:17:10 PM »
Also in my opinion the favorite remains Spain, the only team that has shown real continuity in its game.
Apart from the match against Italy which showed a sort of weakness against very defensive teams, in practice we discovered that his attack is not effective if well controlled.
In fact, with Italy he only scored an own goal.
For the rest, Spain deserves to win.
Looking at the game they showed during this competition, I would also say the same thing that Spain deserved to win. However, the problem is that the result of the match is not seen from the game they have shown so far, it is the match they will play that will determine everything.

England was considered a team that had a bad game, even from the start. However, they managed to emerge victorious in the semifinals and will now face Spain in the final. So they could win in the final match later.

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #410 on: July 11, 2024, 03:38:15 PM »
Also in my opinion the favorite remains Spain, the only team that has shown real continuity in its game.
Apart from the match against Italy which showed a sort of weakness against very defensive teams, in practice we discovered that his attack is not effective if well controlled.
In fact, with Italy he only scored an own goal.
For the rest, Spain deserves to win.
Looking at the game they showed during this competition, I would also say the same thing that Spain deserved to win. However, the problem is that the result of the match is not seen from the game they have shown so far, it is the match they will play that will determine everything.

England was considered a team that had a bad game, even from the start. However, they managed to emerge victorious in the semifinals and will now face Spain in the final. So they could win in the final match later.
Spain was the most concrete so far, i.e. they showed the most football. It would be deserved if they win.
England calculated too much and played cautiously, almost with minimal risk. As far as I've seen them, only the first half against the Netherlands they played excellently (while they were chasing the result)

But there is one game left and anything can happen there. Last time, they England were much better than Italy and perhaps deserved to win the championship, but Italy played smarter. Maybe England is just playing smarter now, ignoring the beauty of the game and criticism, but I guess that's a matter of experience.
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #411 on: July 11, 2024, 03:54:15 PM »
Also in my opinion the favorite remains Spain, the only team that has shown real continuity in its game.
Apart from the match against Italy which showed a sort of weakness against very defensive teams, in practice we discovered that his attack is not effective if well controlled.
In fact, with Italy he only scored an own goal.
For the rest, Spain deserves to win.
Looking at the game they showed during this competition, I would also say the same thing that Spain deserved to win. However, the problem is that the result of the match is not seen from the game they have shown so far, it is the match they will play that will determine everything.

England was considered a team that had a bad game, even from the start. However, they managed to emerge victorious in the semifinals and will now face Spain in the final. So they could win in the final match later.

I think still remain the tactically better team, England might be the better side mentally due to how many times they've had to come from behind to win their game, but should Spain be allowed to get the first goal here, Spain seemed to have a very effective game management approach which have been tested in all of their games, but so as England have been too on the other side of bouncing back. It's going to be a game of great tactical approach.
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #411 on: July 11, 2024, 03:54:15 PM »


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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #412 on: July 11, 2024, 05:35:20 PM »
I would say the gap between them is even bigger, we are talking about a team who got here very easily, beating much harder teams versus a team that had very tough times against much weaker teams and still got here with very last minute goals. England doesn't look like anything close to 2.20 or there about, I would say 3.40 or so is more likely. The problem here is that I think Spain will win, and we are given a bigger odd so I am happy with that, but it also makes it harder to make a decision because if England is offered this, then I feel like there is a chance, and I may want to gamble that too, if it was much higher, I wouldn't have considered it.

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #413 on: July 11, 2024, 05:40:42 PM »
Looking at the game they showed during this competition, I would also say the same thing that Spain deserved to win. However, the problem is that the result of the match is not seen from the game they have shown so far, it is the match they will play that will determine everything.

England was considered a team that had a bad game, even from the start. However, they managed to emerge victorious in the semifinals and will now face Spain in the final. So they could win in the final match later.

more than the game, I didn't watch a single match of this European championship, I looked at the statistics
without watching the game
they had a clear path of play with points of perfection if we want in their path
the only match that gave me doubts against Italy, given that they scored 0 goals (1 own goal)
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #414 on: July 11, 2024, 07:00:54 PM »
Also in my opinion the favorite remains Spain, the only team that has shown real continuity in its game.
Apart from the match against Italy which showed a sort of weakness against very defensive teams, in practice we discovered that his attack is not effective if well controlled.
In fact, with Italy he only scored an own goal.
For the rest, Spain deserves to win.
Looking at the game they showed during this competition, I would also say the same thing that Spain deserved to win. However, the problem is that the result of the match is not seen from the game they have shown so far, it is the match they will play that will determine everything.

England was considered a team that had a bad game, even from the start. However, they managed to emerge victorious in the semifinals and will now face Spain in the final. So they could win in the final match later.

I think still remain the tactically better team, England might be the better side mentally due to how many times they've had to come from behind to win their game, but should Spain be allowed to get the first goal here, Spain seemed to have a very effective game management approach which have been tested in all of their games, but so as England have been too on the other side of bouncing back. It's going to be a game of great tactical approach.
The young Yamal will always make his country proud and Spain have very sharp strikers that can change the game at any moment to favor them. We say how Yamal did that against France and I don't think that England will be left out to receive a shock from Spain. England have quality players and if Southgate can use these players rightly then it will be a difficult match for Spain to win.

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #415 on: July 11, 2024, 08:43:20 PM »
Also in my opinion the favorite remains Spain, the only team that has shown real continuity in its game.
Apart from the match against Italy which showed a sort of weakness against very defensive teams, in practice we discovered that his attack is not effective if well controlled.
In fact, with Italy he only scored an own goal.
For the rest, Spain deserves to win.
Looking at the game they showed during this competition, I would also say the same thing that Spain deserved to win. However, the problem is that the result of the match is not seen from the game they have shown so far, it is the match they will play that will determine everything.

England was considered a team that had a bad game, even from the start. However, they managed to emerge victorious in the semifinals and will now face Spain in the final. So they could win in the final match later.

I think still remain the tactically better team, England might be the better side mentally due to how many times they've had to come from behind to win their game, but should Spain be allowed to get the first goal here, Spain seemed to have a very effective game management approach which have been tested in all of their games, but so as England have been too on the other side of bouncing back. It's going to be a game of great tactical approach.
The young Yamal will always make his country proud and Spain have very sharp strikers that can change the game at any moment to favor them. We say how Yamal did that against France and I don't think that England will be left out to receive a shock from Spain. England have quality players and if Southgate can use these players rightly then it will be a difficult match for Spain to win.

I believe regardless of Southgate's tactic approach, it's still going to be a really tough and cagey game, because there is a lot on the line, and the margin for error is at the slightest. And I really don't see Southgate as coach that would deploy a different set of players than what he's gone with all tournament long, neither do I expect a different tactical approach from him, maybe the only changes I can expect is that he could opt for 2 CDMs so as to combat the Spanish duo of Rodri and Fabian Ruiz.
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #416 on: July 11, 2024, 09:17:37 PM »
I believe regardless of Southgate's tactic approach, it's still going to be a really tough and cagey game, because there is a lot on the line, and the margin for error is at the slightest. And I really don't see Southgate as coach that would deploy a different set of players than what he's gone with all tournament long, neither do I expect a different tactical approach from him, maybe the only changes I can expect is that he could opt for 2 CDMs so as to combat the Spanish duo of Rodri and Fabian Ruiz.
It's not easy because now Southgate's strategy is better, maybe we thought it was too bad before, but with the tactics used, his team advanced to the final to meet the tough Spain.
The line up will probably not differ much from the formation in the semifinals, for me Mainoo will still start he is quite good as a midfielder, as we know Southgate always puts in reserve players in the second half to make an effort to reshuffle their attack.

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #417 on: July 11, 2024, 10:07:17 PM »
Wow, Spain, amazing match. Congrats Spain, go to FINAL
As usual, I saw the summary and not the match, but this one seems to have been full of emotions.
I must say that France surprised me, I didn't think she had woken up, she woke up at the right time apparently.
I knew that Spain would win as it was decidedly stronger in terms of personnel than a tired France.
Actually, both of them competed very optimally, yes, they did very well. Each guard is quite strict and the attacks are very efficient. This shows that both teams have that quality. They are quite even. It's just that Spain was really able to take advantage of these few opportunities to score goals, yes, from the 2 shots on their target, they were able to make it a goal. And France was no longer able to pursue this because Spain was increasingly tightening its guard.

The young Yamal will always make his country proud and Spain have very sharp strikers that can change the game at any moment to favor them. We say how Yamal did that against France and I don't think that England will be left out to receive a shock from Spain. England have quality players and if Southgate can use these players rightly then it will be a difficult match for Spain to win.
exactly, Yamal is very shining in this Euro 2024. And this makes his role at the Euro really high. Spain also has other undoubted star players in football. So, between the Spain vs England final, it will be very difficult to determine again. Yamal vs Bellingham, the icon of the giants in La Liga, certainly also contains quite tight personal rivalries. Not to mention having Harry Kane in it, ah, this will definitely be very high tension and tight for the Euro 2024 final. They will definitely draw, it's just a matter of how they can take advantage of the slightest opportunity to score more goals.
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #418 on: July 11, 2024, 10:18:10 PM »
The young Yamal will always make his country proud and Spain have very sharp strikers that can change the game at any moment to favor them. We say how Yamal did that against France and I don't think that England will be left out to receive a shock from Spain. England have quality players and if Southgate can use these players rightly then it will be a difficult match for Spain to win.
exactly, Yamal is very shining in this Euro 2024. And this makes his role at the Euro really high. Spain also has other undoubted star players in football. So, between the Spain vs England final, it will be very difficult to determine again. Yamal vs Bellingham, the icon of the giants in La Liga, certainly also contains quite tight personal rivalries. Not to mention having Harry Kane in it, ah, this will definitely be very high tension and tight for the Euro 2024 final. They will definitely draw, it's just a matter of how they can take advantage of the slightest opportunity to score more goals.

Lamine Yamal most definitely have one or two awards waiting for him already regardless of how the match ends, I think he likely would be named the Young Player of the tournament, Arda Guler is another good contender but Yamal had a better tournament and influence overall, and his goal against France has also been considered one of the goals of the tournament. I already ruled out Bellingham out for young player of the tournament, he's not been as influential as Yamal has been, but maybe a monster performance in the final could help his case. I just strongly doubt there is a better candidate than Yamal for young player of the tournament.     
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #419 on: July 11, 2024, 10:46:05 PM »
The line up will probably not differ much from the formation in the semifinals, for me Mainoo will still start he is quite good as a midfielder, as we know Southgate always puts in reserve players in the second half to make an effort to reshuffle their attack.
The formation that the England coach used in the semifinals was very good and effective against the Netherlands. If he decides to use the same formation again in the finals, it may work again for him but Spain will be very aware of this formation, and will have this formation and team selection in mind while they train and prepare for that game. England will be more predictable than Spain will be because Garreth Southgate cannot afford to be unpredictable at this moment, he struggled to get the right selection from the start of this competition, England have struggled their way here.
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