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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #420 on: July 11, 2024, 11:23:09 PM »
The line up will probably not differ much from the formation in the semifinals, for me Mainoo will still start he is quite good as a midfielder, as we know Southgate always puts in reserve players in the second half to make an effort to reshuffle their attack.
The formation that the England coach used in the semifinals was very good and effective against the Netherlands. If he decides to use the same formation again in the finals, it may work again for him but Spain will be very aware of this formation, and will have this formation and team selection in mind while they train and prepare for that game. England will be more predictable than Spain will be because Garreth Southgate cannot afford to be unpredictable at this moment, he struggled to get the right selection from the start of this competition, England have struggled their way here.

I agree with you, but I really liked the way England played in the last 10 minutes of the match , in fact it was because of the way they played that they got the winning goal, if they decide to continue playing with the same intensity against Spain, I think they will overwhelm that team, because they won't have time to balance themselves out or form a good defence, for me what Fodden, Bellingham and Kane have done is line up to have the best attack in the world and not give Spain any space to think.
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #420 on: July 11, 2024, 11:23:09 PM »

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #421 on: July 11, 2024, 11:31:08 PM »
But there is one game left and anything can happen there. Last time, they England were much better than Italy and perhaps deserved to win the championship, but Italy played smarter. Maybe England is just playing smarter now, ignoring the beauty of the game and criticism, but I guess that's a matter of experience.
Everyone criticized manager Southgate but he managed to bring England into final, if they win against Spain he is going to be like national hero in UK.
There are many problems in play of England, I dont think they tried to play smarter, they had more luck and more help from corrupt German referee Zwayer when he gave them penalty in last match.  ;D

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #422 on: July 11, 2024, 11:41:48 PM »
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They'll have this extra motivation from being an underdog and more pressure will be on Spaniards.
I think they are already used to being the favorites that they don't care about the expectations anymore. Spain moves the ball so well that the game looks so easy for them. They will just let the opponent chase and then pounce.

It's more likely that England will feel the pressure of proving themselves that they deserve to play in the Finals.

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #423 on: July 11, 2024, 11:52:21 PM »
Their main rival is themselves, the coach is also a fundamental part of the team and although sometimes the changes do not go very well, he achieves the results.

Spain is a candidate to win Euro 2024, or any event.   8)

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Well, supported. Spain is the main candidate for the Euro trophy. England can compete with them because the evidence is quite clear in the formation of Spain over England. Spain has won tough teams better than England. However, It's a no-no for England to win. I am saying Congrats to Spain in advance

First, let me state that I do not share your opinion of how Spain is going to simply win the Euro trophy, while England stands no chance. Although the Spanish side can boast of having many exceptional players and a good record, the English team also has a great potential and a good start-up lineup. It’s far from over and both sides have their advantages and disadvantages; England for example has had some weaknesses but they can still turn it around.

England has always recorded good performances particularly in major tournaments and has equally strong supporters behind the team. Furthermore, the team has been on the training, trying to work extra hard in the way they will come up with the right strategies and the tactics that are fit for the match hence stand a very good chance of reducing the chances of the other team that is considered strong.

One has to bear in mind that in football anything can turn up and that games are lost as well as won through underestimations. I think it is premature to congratulate Spain and as far as I’m concerned let the teams go out to the field to decide the winner.
In a nutshell, let the best team win. I believe both teams will be working on their weakness, to build a stronger team than they were before so that they will win not lose with a favorable game plan that will disorganize the formation of their opponent.

However, both teams are found worthy of lifting the Euro trophy. The dice have been thrown. Let the lucky and most prepared team win

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #424 on: July 11, 2024, 11:52:33 PM »
Everyone criticized manager Southgate but he managed to bring England into final, if they win against Spain he is going to be like national hero in UK.
There are many problems in play of England, I dont think they tried to play smarter, they had more luck and more help from corrupt German referee Zwayer when he gave them penalty in last match.  ;D
Yes, Southgate has been England's football manager since 2016. He also has a lot of experience as a football manager. And because of his achievements at the Euro this time, England asked him to stay as England football manager for the World Cup by FA. Yes, indeed, that 53-year-old manager is currently being widely discussed because of his achievements this time in reaching the Euro 2024 Final. So, with his experience so far, many parties are considering that England is the same as Southgate and the top players in the team will win .
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13625733/Gareth-Southgate-STAY-England-manager-World-Cup-Euro-2024.html


However, on the other hand, Spain is also like that. There is a lot of talent at the club, which is very solid and is currently on fire. Their manager, Luis de la Fuente, is also a professional manager who previously played as a left-back. and has been Spain Manager since last year.

So, won't this be much more competitive in the future? Even though the favorite here or the favorite to win is Spain.

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #425 on: July 12, 2024, 01:42:59 AM »
However, both teams are found worthy of lifting the Euro trophy. The dice have been thrown. Let the lucky and most prepared team win

I think the same too, I couldn't say which team is better prepared, because for me England has surprised us, now they are in the finals when many people didn't believe in this team, certain things need to be corrected, maybe the midfield needs to be a little more focused on attacking, and in Spain the defensive line is solid but I think they fail a lot in midfield, apart from their forwards it seems incredible to me, but they leave eggs where the English can easily enter, and that's something that can't happen, for that you have to be running a lot and that's what makes a footballer a footballer.
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #426 on: July 12, 2024, 05:30:08 AM »
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They'll have this extra motivation from being an underdog and more pressure will be on Spaniards.
I think they are already used to being the favorites that they don't care about the expectations anymore. Spain moves the ball so well that the game looks so easy for them. They will just let the opponent chase and then pounce.

It's more likely that England will feel the pressure of proving themselves that they deserve to play in the Finals.

While Spain are used to being the favorites, England have also been the favorite for almost all their match so far if not all, the only difference is that Spain have been able to live up to that expectation comfortably while England been struggling to find their feet, it's not as though they've not got the player, but tactics have been their major hurdle. To be very honest, England also really do have the better squad depth of the two teams but Spain have just been more organized and have better chemistry.
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #426 on: July 12, 2024, 05:30:08 AM »


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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #427 on: July 12, 2024, 12:34:19 PM »
However, both teams are found worthy of lifting the Euro trophy. The dice have been thrown. Let the lucky and most prepared team win

I think the same too, I couldn't say which team is better prepared, because for me England has surprised us, now they are in the finals when many people didn't believe in this team, certain things need to be corrected, maybe the midfield needs to be a little more focused on attacking, and in Spain the defensive line is solid but I think they fail a lot in midfield, apart from their forwards it seems incredible to me, but they leave eggs where the English can easily enter, and that's something that can't happen, for that you have to be running a lot and that's what makes a footballer a footballer.

I think without malice that England is not up to the level of Spain, Spain from the statistics I have seen is much stronger.
I haven't seen any match so far but I think I will watch the final, in my opinion it will be interesting given that they both play at a good level.
I hope it's fun.
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #428 on: July 12, 2024, 12:41:05 PM »
I bet on Spain, and it seems quite obvious to me.  I bet a few euros, I really like doing it just to get some extra thrills while watching the match, not to make money.Also because you dont make money by betting, it must be a game.Anyone make a flat bet or use any modifiers or handicaps?
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #429 on: July 12, 2024, 01:30:12 PM »
Talking about English games will be very interesting to discuss. Because even though the English game was boring, this game brought them to the final round. Although many people think that every victory achieved by England was due to luck. but I think apart from luck of course they also have other things that other teams don't have. That is, they can play patiently and maintain their mentality until the final minutes of the match. So many of the matches that England won were because of goals in the last minute or in the minute of added time. Because they never seem to let their guard down even when the match is almost over. This is the greater value of the English national team apart from the depth of their squad. As for Spain's advantages, I think we can all see them clearly. And yes, it is natural that the majority expect them to become champions. because they really have the appropriate quality of play if they have to win the Euros this time. but in the Finals even strong teams will be more careful and will not be as aggressive as usual. So the final match can sometimes be quite boring when all the teams decide to play carefully. but the final match could also be a very heated match if both teams decide to play attacking from the start.

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #430 on: July 12, 2024, 01:41:41 PM »
Looking at the game they showed during this competition, I would also say the same thing that Spain deserved to win. However, the problem is that the result of the match is not seen from the game they have shown so far, it is the match they will play that will determine everything.

England was considered a team that had a bad game, even from the start. However, they managed to emerge victorious in the semifinals and will now face Spain in the final. So they could win in the final match later.

I think still remain the tactically better team, England might be the better side mentally due to how many times they've had to come from behind to win their game, but should Spain be allowed to get the first goal here, Spain seemed to have a very effective game management approach which have been tested in all of their games, but so as England have been too on the other side of bouncing back. It's going to be a game of great tactical approach.
Agree, maybe in this case England is more superior because their mentality is better if they see how they got up from a left behind position. For example, in the last semifinal match, they succeeded in turning things around after they were 1 goal behind.

This is what Spain must be wary of, even though they can take the lead first, they must still be careful because England can equalize and even turn things around like they did to the Netherlands in the semifinals.

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #431 on: July 12, 2024, 01:50:40 PM »
~ Anyone make a flat bet or use any modifiers or handicaps?
Spain scoring 2 goals or over 1.5 in total @2.75.

I think they will score at least one in the first half and rattle the other team's play style. England will start to get aggressive in the second half which opens them to a fast counter-attack and then concede another goal.

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #432 on: July 12, 2024, 01:52:33 PM »
Agree, maybe in this case England is more superior because their mentality is better if they see how they got up from a left behind position. For example, in the last semifinal match, they succeeded in turning things around after they were 1 goal behind.

This is what Spain must be wary of, even though they can take the lead first, they must still be careful because England can equalize and even turn things around like they did to the Netherlands in the semifinals.
And there is one more thing you need to know about the English national team, because the English squad has more experienced players in major competitions. So there is no doubt about their mentality. and in the final it actually requires strong mental strength for a squad and England should already have it because they even went to the final at the last Euro even though they failed at that time. Meanwhile, Spain, with its young players, may still have doubts regarding their mentality. It's just that in terms of quality of play and teamwork, we see that Spain is indeed better.

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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #433 on: July 12, 2024, 02:09:22 PM »
Remember that it is still a final, in these matches it is not easy to understand who the winner will be, it is very difficult to make predictions.
We have a favorite, Spain, but this does not mean that the result is written in stone, on the contrary.
Sometimes strange things happen in finals and I've seen a lot of finals.
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Re: [football] EURO 2024
« Reply #434 on: July 12, 2024, 02:40:49 PM »
Remember that it is still a final, in these matches it is not easy to understand who the winner will be, it is very difficult to make predictions.
We have a favorite, Spain, but this does not mean that the result is written in stone, on the contrary.
Sometimes strange things happen in finals and I've seen a lot of finals.
You're right bro. Because basically in the final match, even the team that is not the favorite can cause a big surprise and cause the favorite team to lose. Surprises are the things that happen most often in final matches. And the results are always 50:50 as usual. It's just that the level of difficulty to predict or analyze it becomes much more difficult to do.

 

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