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Who will win?

Donald Trump
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Kamala Harris
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #135 on: September 04, 2024, 03:28:25 PM »
I try to fight everything that is wasteful... and war is a waste of lives, money and time
destruction and violence are always the last resort of the incapable as Savior Hardin says
Yes, it's true and I agree, war should always be the last resort but should be avoided if things aren't close to that last resort. I'm someone who's also against the philosophy of war as it brings so much envy and hatred towards the people who actually haven't done anything wrong to your or your family but in rage those people are also considered as enemies and thousands of innocent people die in those wars.

But, when things are out of control and you've no other option then at those times war becomes mandatory, and at that time avoiding war would be a big mistake which one can't even regret. Still, I would say that war should be avoided at any cost because war is the number 1 killer of peace and prosperity if war happens then it will destroy peace and prosperity.

Exactly, above all I remember seeing a beautiful video in which he talked about space colonization.
With the immense and infinite space we are arguing on planet earth, instead of throwing missiles at each other we should go into space to mine materials and look for other things.
But no, we spend money on bullshit and weapons to kill each other.
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #135 on: September 04, 2024, 03:28:25 PM »

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #136 on: September 04, 2024, 11:47:19 PM »
from within, US is already having a war of their own. gangs seizing peoples home and police not ever fighting those crimes, and fentanyl just easy to buy. this is like what happened to China before they fall. but they are rising up again.

I think that all the countries in the world have their dark side, what I have realized is that in the most developed countries there is a very hidden evil but that is destroying many things, despite the fact that it never comes to light publicly, however, for something like that you need radicalism, and someone who is willing to bring it to light publicly, for me Trump is a person like that, I don't know, he's daring, he's not afraid of anything, now I see the democrats as very scared, in the case of Kamala I don't like that they banned X, it's a social network, why are they going to take away freedom of expression? just like in Venezuela and Brazil, although dictators could be said to be stupid, because people still enter with VPN, what counts is the intention, it is speculated that Harris is from a socialist / communist current, is that true? they feel it that way in the USA.
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #136 on: September 04, 2024, 11:47:19 PM »

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #137 on: September 05, 2024, 12:01:07 AM »
There has been %10 increase in homelessness, and that is definitely something that they should work on, but considering this is the USA we are talking about and they do go Darwinian capitalism most of the time, it means that people who do those drugs and stay homeless will end up solving the problem themselves eventually. That a sad and cold truth that nobody would like to point this way, but its also the reality as well. Sure there are problems with both sides, which is why they have two parties, so you pick the one that fits your ideas better, but do not act like one of them is evil and the other is an angel, both of them suck most of the time.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #138 on: September 05, 2024, 12:22:17 AM »
Alright, so I hear that Kamala Harris mentioned her intention to increase capital gains tax as well as express her support for unrealised gains tax for the richest, which sparked a lot of controversies resulting in a drop in poll ratings:
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/4859946-vice-president-kamala-harris-tax/

I know there might be a lot of people here who think the "normal" taxation is already a theft, but taxing people on unrealised gains is a next-level evil. Anyone who supports this should be banned from politics for life.

But yeah, that's surely a good news for Trump.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #139 on: September 05, 2024, 06:45:14 PM »
Alright, so I hear that Kamala Harris mentioned her intention to increase capital gains tax as well as express her support for unrealised gains tax for the richest, which sparked a lot of controversies resulting in a drop in poll ratings:
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/4859946-vice-president-kamala-harris-tax/

I know there might be a lot of people here who think the "normal" taxation is already a theft, but taxing people on unrealised gains is a next-level evil. Anyone who supports this should be banned from politics for life.

But yeah, that's surely a good news for Trump.

I like this thing
Taxing those who have more money is the right thing, the question that comes to mind when thinking about this is, will he really do it?
they always promise and then ebay amazon facebook microsoft apple and google pay practically nothing in taxes.. in fact they pay taxes that are laughable
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #140 on: September 05, 2024, 07:16:49 PM »
Alright, so I hear that Kamala Harris mentioned her intention to increase capital gains tax as well as express her support for unrealised gains tax for the richest, which sparked a lot of controversies resulting in a drop in poll ratings:
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/4859946-vice-president-kamala-harris-tax/

I know there might be a lot of people here who think the "normal" taxation is already a theft, but taxing people on unrealised gains is a next-level evil. Anyone who supports this should be banned from politics for life.

But yeah, that's surely a good news for Trump.

I like this thing
Taxing those who have more money is the right thing, the question that comes to mind when thinking about this is, will he really do it?
they always promise and then ebay amazon facebook microsoft apple and google pay practically nothing in taxes.. in fact they pay taxes that are laughable

the question should be  will the rich vote for kamala because of her plan for their money?

she almost got the votes from the black community and now she ruins it with such announcement. but Trump is going to keep the advantage with such news. she is now currently losing the polls by the way.

because of he economy i think trump may also do this  taxing but he may not be announcing this too early but he is one of the few rich who had been circumventing the system to evade but yep Trump had already exposed this hole before.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #141 on: September 05, 2024, 09:28:58 PM »
the question should be  will the rich vote for kamala because of her plan for their money?

she almost got the votes from the black community and now she ruins it with such announcement. but Trump is going to keep the advantage with such news. she is now currently losing the polls by the way.

because of he economy i think trump may also do this  taxing but he may not be announcing this too early but he is one of the few rich who had been circumventing the system to evade but yep Trump had already exposed this hole before.

clearly the rich will not vote for Kamala since he threatens them
but in this way, if after being elected she does not keep her promise, the votes of her deceived voters are also at stake
I don't know how it works in the USA, but in Italy politicians promise things that they don't keep, practically always
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #141 on: September 05, 2024, 09:28:58 PM »


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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #142 on: September 05, 2024, 09:50:07 PM »
I love the fact that what she is proposing will impact probably just a few people, literally the Elon Musk and jeff bezos's of the nation and the people who can buy a 100 meter yacht if they want to with just a single click of their fingers, and yet this drops the poll rating for millions. People are really stupid when it comes to rich people's money, I have no idea how the rich managed to do this, but whenever a politician offers to get more from the rich and help the poor, the poor defend the rich, that is both funny but also shocking and I have no clue how that happened. Tens of millions, even hundreds of millions should get together and ask the rich to pay their fair share of taxes, and instead they just support them paying less taxes, they are really morons :D

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #143 on: September 05, 2024, 09:55:23 PM »
I think that all the countries in the world have their dark side, what I have realized is that in the most developed countries there is a very hidden evil but that is destroying many things, despite the fact that it never comes to light publicly, however, for something like that you need radicalism, and someone who is willing to bring it to light publicly, for me Trump is a person like that, I don't know, he's daring, he's not afraid of anything, now I see the democrats as very scared, in the case of Kamala I don't like that they banned X, it's a social network, why are they going to take away freedom of expression? just like in Venezuela and Brazil, although dictators could be said to be stupid, because people still enter with VPN, what counts is the intention, it is speculated that Harris is from a socialist / communist current, is that true? they feel it that way in the USA.
I agree that all countries have secrets that people do not know about. I think Trump is brave to talk about these problems even if it means saying things that might shock people. But I also think it is important for people to be able to say what they think and banning social networks like X is bad idea. It is worrying that politicians like Kamala Harris want to censor people opinions.

I understand why they might want to but I think it is a mistake and could make people trust each other less. When people find ways to get around bans like using VPNs it shows that trying to control what people say does not work. Instead of this we should focus on being honest and open with each other.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #144 on: September 06, 2024, 10:43:28 AM »
tomorrow we will have the debate between the two
what do you expect? I always repeat my mantra, I do not negotiate for Kamala Harris or for Donald Trump
Donald Trump seems to me like Silvio Berlusconi, a nice criminal and chatterbox
Kamala Harris seems like a slimy viper to me
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #145 on: September 06, 2024, 10:58:57 AM »
tomorrow we will have the debate between the two
what do you expect? I always repeat my mantra, I do not negotiate for Kamala Harris or for Donald Trump
Donald Trump seems to me like Silvio Berlusconi, a nice criminal and chatterbox
Kamala Harris seems like a slimy viper to me

I'm not from the States so it's hard to see who is going to win. But let's see how the debate goes first, we all know how big mouth Donald Trump is, he is the alpha or more of a sigma.

But I do think that Kamala Harris is not going to be intimidated by the old man.

So far Trump lead by a slim margin, as per Stake, Trump to win 1.92, Harris 2.10.
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #146 on: September 06, 2024, 10:44:42 PM »
I love the fact that what she is proposing will impact probably just a few people, literally the Elon Musk and jeff bezos's of the nation and the people who can buy a 100 meter yacht if they want to with just a single click of their fingers, and yet this drops the poll rating for millions. People are really stupid when it comes to rich people's money, I have no idea how the rich managed to do this, but whenever a politician offers to get more from the rich and help the poor, the poor defend the rich, that is both funny but also shocking and I have no clue how that happened. Tens of millions, even hundreds of millions should get together and ask the rich to pay their fair share of taxes, and instead they just support them paying less taxes, they are really morons :D

the poor couldn't defend themselves, so they can't defend the rich either.  its just logic telling how much support Kamala get from the rich if she propose to tax them high. the rich like Elon and bezos and their likes doesn't pay much. but its the rich who are just as making honest living with no connection to the government officials and won't be choosing panama to hide their wealth.

this is likely a fight between the evil vs lesser evil. and the people know they suffer much today than the time when Trump was the president.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #147 on: September 07, 2024, 12:02:48 AM »
While it is provably wrong that people are doing worse now under Biden than Trump, it is also important to remember that Kamala is the VP not the president, so even if you think Bidens 4 years was better than Trumps, doesn't mean Kamalas will be, nor does it mean if you think Bidens 4 year was worse than Trumps, it would be same for Kamala. However, the "rich got rich with honest living" is something so sick to think, jeff bezos got 10 billion just to fly to orbit, he used it to buy james bonds rights, elon musk gets subs from the government left and right for everything from energy to his cars to space travel, every single rich you see out there, either gets money from the government, or doesn't pay the government what they owe, while paying people less than survival wages. One example is jeff bezos pays entry level jobs so low that government has to pay those people welfare, so Americans are paying amazon workers welfare just because jeff bezos doesn't want to pay much to entry level workers. I can list even more stuff, but rich are not rich because they are making honest living, they are evil and they should be taxed a lot more.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #148 on: September 09, 2024, 10:22:44 PM »
I agree that all countries have secrets that people do not know about. I think Trump is brave to talk about these problems even if it means saying things that might shock people. But I also think it is important for people to be able to say what they think and banning social networks like X is bad idea. It is worrying that politicians like Kamala Harris want to censor people opinions.

I understand why they might want to but I think it is a mistake and could make people trust each other less. When people find ways to get around bans like using VPNs it shows that trying to control what people say does not work. Instead of this we should focus on being honest and open with each other.

Personally, I start from something, a very personal principle of mine, and that is that knowledge should be free. For me, doing this type of thing is always bad. Preventing or encouraging people to do things like this only opens up people's Interest much more so that they don't give up,  That's how it works Politicians like Harris should be smarter. If they don't like a social network, they should ignore it, not give it importance  , but they do the opposite and that causes annoyance. I think that for that reason and many more, Trump could beat them by a Landslide.
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #149 on: September 09, 2024, 11:15:28 PM »
On Thursday, Vladimir Putin said that Russia would back Kamala Harris in the upcoming election, which came as a surprise to many.
To me it's an obvious bluff. Putin knows that his endorsement will have a negative effect on voting results, so he said he prefers Kamala. Obviously he truly prefers whoever is more likely to end the war and support the peace agreement, which is probably Trump, although I wouldn't be so sure.
I'm not sure what's the average American's sentiment towards the war in Ukraine though. Since the US is not directly involved, I imagine people are probably not bothered too much.

 

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