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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2024, 01:31:52 PM »
If you believe in the Tether conspiracy theories then you'd think that they might be able to manipulate the Bitcoin price. You'd think that they would get something from raising or lowering the price but actually what happens is that there is no plan. It is just extremely volatile and it goes in whatever direction it wants.

But in the past, we have seen how whales used to create panic in the market by manipulating the price of Bitcoin. I agree with your reasoning that Bitcoin is known for its volatile nature then again we have ETF inflows which might be the reason for the price going back to where it was a few days back. I think there can be multiple reasons why the price fluctuates. It is not that easy to point only on the whales or volatility, the global situation currently can be responsible for the frequent price fluctuation of Bitcoin.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2024, 01:31:52 PM »

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2024, 01:38:08 PM »
But in the past, we have seen how whales used to create panic in the market by manipulating the price of Bitcoin. I agree with your reasoning that Bitcoin is known for its volatile nature then again we have ETF inflows which might be the reason for the price going back to where it was a few days back. I think there can be multiple reasons why the price fluctuates. It is not that easy to point only on the whales or volatility, the global situation currently can be responsible for the frequent price fluctuation of Bitcoin.

Yeah, I agree with you about that, the situation can be very complex but I also think that some "whales" aka. very public people like Elon Musk can do more damage to crypto or the reverse just by talking about it.

It's strange because things like this should not be happening. Nobody should be buying or selling just because somebody online says something about crypto.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2024, 03:51:35 PM »
I am sure that they manipulate absolutely any things that we see and know, what can we say about Bitcoin, of course they manipulate it and very strongly, it just can’t go up and down all the time, the price would always be the same, and that We see that the price goes up and goes down in equal proportions, you shouldn’t bother your head with this, you just need to know one rule, that when the price goes down, it will soon go up))
Yeah, long-term investors should have this kind of mindset and belief in order to continue to exist and profit from BTC future price increases. FUD is created to make the market RED and to make weak-hands sell their crypto assets in fear. However, FUD will also end, and that's the time for diamond-hands to earn profits worthy of their perseverance.

Whales are very good at using FUD and FOMO to make the majority of investors lose psychological control and make wrong decisions. Interestingly, in each new cycle, they have different tactics and go beyond our ability to predict. What we can do is stick to a long-term investment strategy, while speculating on the whales' manipulation plans and creating conspiracy theories is just for fun to reduce stress in the market.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2024, 04:10:04 PM »
But in the past, we have seen how whales used to create panic in the market by manipulating the price of Bitcoin. I agree with your reasoning that Bitcoin is known for its volatile nature then again we have ETF inflows which might be the reason for the price going back to where it was a few days back. I think there can be multiple reasons why the price fluctuates. It is not that easy to point only on the whales or volatility, the global situation currently can be responsible for the frequent price fluctuation of Bitcoin.

Yeah, I agree with you about that, the situation can be very complex but I also think that some "whales" aka. very public people like Elon Musk can do more damage to crypto or the reverse just by talking about it.

It's strange because things like this should not be happening. Nobody should be buying or selling just because somebody online says something about crypto.
Talking about whales who have a lot of money even unlimited then we must be able to see how expensive the price of bitcoin is on the exchange. So far the wealth of whales can still buy bitcoins in very large amounts. Therefore whales are often said to be able to manipulate the movement of bitcoin prices on the exchange. The price of bitcoin has a price as expensive as this is also the influence of those who dare to buy at a high price.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2024, 08:39:08 PM »
Talking about whales who have a lot of money even unlimited then we must be able to see how expensive the price of bitcoin is on the exchange. So far the wealth of whales can still buy bitcoins in very large amounts. Therefore whales are often said to be able to manipulate the movement of bitcoin prices on the exchange. The price of bitcoin has a price as expensive as this is also the influence of those who dare to buy at a high price.
The influence is indeed quite significant and see how when whales start buying, such as Mr.100 and some institutions that buy thousands of Bitcoins. It increases the price of Bitcoin, but also vice versa, when they sell Bitcoin or even just move it, it will be bad news for Bitcoin.

Retail traders will be quite sensitive to bitcoin transfers and sales plans, this will lower the price but will certainly be a good opportunity to start buying when prices are low.

Never fight the Whales, just follow where they go and take advantage of every move the whale makes.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2024, 09:38:20 PM »
Whales manipulating the market has been going on for a long time in the crypto world and I think not only in the crypto market but almost all markets. They can make the price of bitcoin and altcoins drop but it is only temporary. Because the market response will not last long, if the whales and the money they use to play in the market are not large. The market will return to normal. We understand that what influences market prices is demand and supply.

Whales are manipulating the market because they are buying and selling and do not consist of a small amount of money so if they take advantage of the market then the market goes against our hopes but we should do the same thing as they are doing no matter we are using less or more amount but we have to think about our profit.

Every pump and dump are temporary but people think it as permanent and decide with emotions at the end of which they are blaming the market and the coins which is not a wise step. If we are selling our coins then there must be some individuals who will buy so the market will go up again after sometime if demands remain elevated.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2024, 09:45:38 PM »
Whales control bitcoin, isnt ETF yet, but the whales control it very well, and they do whatever they wanna to do, the last days Futures were always dumping to SPOT ETF buy low... there werent bad news to make bitcoin break the way it had broken, this is the range 50k-70k. One thing is sure the higger bitcoin goes the bigger mooves it will make, for both directions, leverage isnt our friend at all.

I was having an argument with one of my friend that we might not see Bitcoin below $30k because that's the place whales like Blackrock bought there Bitcoin. They were buying and preparing the market for the upcoming ETF back then when BITCOIN ETF wasn't approved then and people think the price will come down, they are going to protect their investment at all cost.

Blackrock isn't the only key player of whales but I know for sure that since they provide ETF, there position on crypto can't be overlook, they contributed to how Bitcoin moves now and it's making Bitcoin to be centralized and controlled by some group of people.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2024, 09:45:38 PM »


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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2024, 11:41:25 PM »
Not barely 48hrs the price of bitcoin moves from 52k to 60k like I was mean to asked if there is any positive news that gives rise to this sudden increase, though wasn't expecting bitcoin price to remain stationary but they way it moves seriously increased without any delay or is there any whale that came to buy at huge? Please if there is any news that relates to sudden increase don't hesitate to share here.
Those who are doing DCA have also made some cool cash in between this shortest time frame as the price seems to be manipulative.
The thing there is that, bitcoin is kind of unpredictable and for sure there is such a possibility of the market and a cure attribute feature of bitcoin to be unpredictable, the volitility can play out at any point in time and for sure there is a big difference between bitcoin a d other assets such as gold, so making such attempt to predict the direction the bitcoin market will go,

So let us not be surprised at the direction that bitcoin price take at any point in time, you can see our current price position which is somewhat lower than what the price was when this thread was created.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2024, 11:49:42 PM »
Not barely 48hrs the price of bitcoin moves from 52k to 60k like I was mean to asked if there is any positive news that gives rise to this sudden increase, though wasn't expecting bitcoin price to remain stationary but they way it moves seriously increased without any delay or is there any whale that came to buy at huge? Please if there is any news that relates to sudden increase don't hesitate to share here.
Those who are doing DCA have also made some cool cash in between this shortest time frame as the price seems to be manipulative.
The thing there is that, bitcoin is kind of unpredictable and for sure there is such a possibility of the market and a cure attribute feature of bitcoin to be unpredictable, the volitility can play out at any point in time and for sure there is a big difference between bitcoin a d other assets such as gold, so making such attempt to predict the direction the bitcoin market will go,

So let us not be surprised at the direction that bitcoin price take at any point in time, you can see our current price position which is somewhat lower than what the price was when this thread was created.
That's true thu, sincerely judging how the price is moving you would know that it's not good to focused on the price because it changes any time any moment, and have began to know note why people lose their investment as well, because they are watchful and certainly on their prediction except for the people that would want to hold for long time.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2024, 12:05:00 AM »
There isn't a reason required to make it go up or down because we already have that reason "the market". If we end up buying or selling as much as we want, then we are free to move the market as much as we want, and there isn't any SEC or whatever to check up on us, we can buy and sell however we want. Rich people do that harder, because they are checked more carefully, but when you combine millions of small retail investors, those people end up being better too so that means we are capable of moving it very fastly down or up whenever we want to, that should be the most important note from this.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2024, 03:25:05 AM »

That's true thu, sincerely judging how the price is moving you would know that it's not good to focused on the price because it changes any time any moment, and have began to know note why people lose their investment as well, because they are watchful and certainly on their prediction except for the people that would want to hold for long time.
We must always monitor the price if we decide to hold the short and medium term, but if we decide to hold the long term we don't need to focus on the price because we are just waiting for the bullish season to sell. When trading I will focus on monitoring prices in the market, but I leave the coins that I hold for the long term in my wallet and wait for the bullish season next year to sell them.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2024, 07:56:52 AM »

That's true thu, sincerely judging how the price is moving you would know that it's not good to focused on the price because it changes any time any moment, and have began to know note why people lose their investment as well, because they are watchful and certainly on their prediction except for the people that would want to hold for long time.
We must always monitor the price if we decide to hold the short and medium term, but if we decide to hold the long term we don't need to focus on the price because we are just waiting for the bullish season to sell. When trading I will focus on monitoring prices in the market, but I leave the coins that I hold for the long term in my wallet and wait for the bullish season next year to sell them.
Nothing wrong monitoring price for immediate trade or short term but as investor what they should target is the time to sell of their investment and even when that time is near and people don't seem to have the profits they desired they could still extend it to more circlic period where they would experience another halving the push back the price further again. Then for altcoin or memecoin it's important to constantly checking them because when you dump them in your bags you don't need to skip otherwise it could dump on them that is why it's important to monitor altcoin.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2024, 09:14:07 AM »
Not barely 48hrs the price of bitcoin moves from 52k to 60k like I was mean to asked if there is any positive news that gives rise to this sudden increase, though wasn't expecting bitcoin price to remain stationary but they way it moves seriously increased without any delay or is there any whale that came to buy at huge? Please if there is any news that relates to sudden increase don't hesitate to share here.
Those who are doing DCA have also made some cool cash in between this shortest time frame as the price seems to be manipulative.
If you use the word "manipulative", then you are not wrong, because personally, I've been thinking along the same line.

Bitcoin moved to and above $60,000 after dropping down to below $50k some days back, and yesterday, the price touched down to around $56k, and just as I am writing this post, bitcoin is a little above $58k.

I understand that there are perhaps, millions of people around the world buying and selling bitcoin, which is the reason for all the sudden and fast price changes, but still, I believe there are some whales somewhere manipulating the price to their own benefit, ordinarily, the price of bitcoin by now should be above $70k, but seems there are some forces holding it from going cross $60 - $65k.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2024, 09:38:49 AM »
It's strange because things like this should not be happening. Nobody should be buying or selling just because somebody online says something about crypto.

Post 2021 we haven't seen the price of Bitcoin getting influenced by big news. The only news that pumped the price of Bitcoin was about Bitcoin ETFs approval process.  Big influencers and even the politicians have not been able to manipulate the price of Bitcoin. I think it is the current overall global situation that is creating a panic in the market. As of today the price again went back to $58K.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2024, 10:25:23 AM »
Not barely 48hrs the price of bitcoin moves from 52k to 60k like I was mean to asked if there is any positive news that gives rise to this sudden increase, though wasn't expecting bitcoin price to remain stationary but they way it moves seriously increased without any delay or is there any whale that came to buy at huge? Please if there is any news that relates to sudden increase don't hesitate to share here.
Those who are doing DCA have also made some cool cash in between this shortest time frame as the price seems to be manipulative.
If you use the word "manipulative", then you are not wrong, because personally, I've been thinking along the same line.

Bitcoin moved to and above $60,000 after dropping down to below $50k some days back, and yesterday, the price touched down to around $56k, and just as I am writing this post, bitcoin is a little above $58k.

I understand that there are perhaps, millions of people around the world buying and selling bitcoin, which is the reason for all the sudden and fast price changes, but still, I believe there are some whales somewhere manipulating the price to their own benefit, ordinarily, the price of bitcoin by now should be above $70k, but seems there are some forces holding it from going cross $60 - $65k.
Yes you could be right, they are doing that for their own personal benefits because I know as people are involving themselves into trade it could be very much easier to be swinging the price in an uncontrollable manner. Where if the price are being manipulated the smaller investors would panicked and sell of their bitcoin in small dip and immediately price can be increasing back. That is why it's advisable to be doing DCA especially those who have enough funds can actually be doing that gradually without any lose or involving themselves into a set buy off.

 

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