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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #165 on: October 16, 2024, 10:31:25 AM »
Not barely 48hrs the price of bitcoin moves from 52k to 60k like I was mean to asked if there is any positive news that gives rise to this sudden increase, though wasn't expecting bitcoin price to remain stationary but they way it moves seriously increased without any delay or is there any whale that came to buy at huge? Please if there is any news that relates to sudden increase don't hesitate to share here.
Those who are doing DCA have also made some cool cash in between this shortest time frame as the price seems to be manipulative.

Experts on crypto analysis, that is, a good TA/FA analysts or even some experienced traders will also explain this situation with charts that the market may experience a bounce, though there could be a DCB (Dead cat bounce), or clean bounce due to some heavy accumulation at certain periods.
As a matter of facts, Bitcoin can make a surprise moves especially when some whale take a long position, and most times there may not be any positive news or speculations to push prices up but btc price can move based on it's circle, when prices touches the bottom at certain times.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #166 on: October 16, 2024, 10:34:05 AM »
It looks like the crowd is now unconsciously pushing the Bitcoin price up, because everyone knew in advance that UPtober is a month of growth and profit. And you must agree that such crowd warming up is very similar to mass manipulation, albeit unconscious. Therefore, I believe that the market is now manipulating itself.
The market cannot manipulate itself, we call that the market cycle and the repetition of history. Analyzing the past is also a crucial part of predicting the future, though I'm not good at it, I only follow the predictions on YouTube :)

I think the FOMO in the October was also created and fueled by the efforts of whales: they had accumulated enough tokens and needed a pump to take profits at a high price! I think they have more pressure than retail investors :)

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #167 on: October 16, 2024, 03:40:23 PM »
It looks like the crowd is now unconsciously pushing the Bitcoin price up, because everyone knew in advance that UPtober is a month of growth and profit. And you must agree that such crowd warming up is very similar to mass manipulation, albeit unconscious. Therefore, I believe that the market is now manipulating itself.
October is the same as Uptober, so you think it's the month to increase the price of Bitcoin in various markets, right?
And what do you mean by the market manipulating itself? Does Bitcoin already have its own to manipulate or what do you think?
Maybe he is referring to something like Butcoin itself attracted more investors this time because they anticipate the upcoming bullrun that might happen anytime soon and investors doesn't wanna miss this opportunity just like what had happened way back in 2017 when price surge at year end.
Many Legendary say that the price will increase by the end of the year and they often say BullRun, if I had known the market since 2017 as you said, maybe I would have prepared my steps to seek profit like other Legendary members. I have to continue discussing like this and quoting each other so that I can know and take the right profit. There is one more burden during this time I have been learning cryptocurrency, namely capital to buy or invest because I noticed that Legendary members seem to find it very easy to spend capital to invest.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #168 on: October 16, 2024, 09:14:55 PM »
It looks like the crowd is now unconsciously pushing the Bitcoin price up, because everyone knew in advance that UPtober is a month of growth and profit. And you must agree that such crowd warming up is very similar to mass manipulation, albeit unconscious. Therefore, I believe that the market is now manipulating itself.
The market cannot manipulate itself, we call that the market cycle and the repetition of history. Analyzing the past is also a crucial part of predicting the future, though I'm not good at it, I only follow the predictions on YouTube :)

I think the FOMO in the October was also created and fueled by the efforts of whales: they had accumulated enough tokens and needed a pump to take profits at a high price! I think they have more pressure than retail investors :)
If I am not mistakenly now the market has been repeating the same sequence for long now since the start of bitcoin halving and it's a natural phenomenon that often occurs within the cyclic event, and we can't say this is what happened naturally and most investors has looked towards here to make their prediction and often times make their investment through it.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #169 on: October 17, 2024, 03:06:49 PM »
being a politician doesn't rhyme with telling the truth[
best course of action is being suspicious of anything a politician says and waiting for them NOT to do what they promissed before being elected
this is valid for all the sides, not only the sides you like the least.
Exactly, that is what we must understand first, however there are some candidates who already make it clear what they are and what they like and what they don't like, but honestly a person like Trump who has always been very focused on finance, with many businesses and talking about BTC at least I do believe him in that sense, but a person who does not have any financial history or books that talk about this, it is more difficult, maybe for people this is not enough, but he has more than... and that is enough, of course he still entered politics and politics is usually corrupt , but you have to give the vote of confidence to someone, but as I have said and repeated only the Americans are the ones who choose, they are the ones who have to be clear because they are the first who would be affected by a good or bad government, whoever it may be.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #170 on: October 18, 2024, 05:31:50 PM »
being a politician doesn't rhyme with telling the truth[
best course of action is being suspicious of anything a politician says and waiting for them NOT to do what they promissed before being elected
this is valid for all the sides, not only the sides you like the least.
Exactly, that is what we must understand first, however there are some candidates who already make it clear what they are and what they like and what they don't like, but honestly a person like Trump who has always been very focused on finance, with many businesses and talking about BTC at least I do believe him in that sense, but a person who does not have any financial history or books that talk about this, it is more difficult, maybe for people this is not enough, but he has more than... and that is enough, of course he still entered politics and politics is usually corrupt , but you have to give the vote of confidence to someone, but as I have said and repeated only the Americans are the ones who choose, they are the ones who have to be clear because they are the first who would be affected by a good or bad government, whoever it may be.
You are right, the US presidential election is just Americans who know what kind of leader they need. because we don't know the conditions there and we are not US citizens.
Trump is very supportive of crypto and the last thing we read, Trump has made transactions with bitcoin, this is a good thing for us crypto investors. but the choice is in their hands, US citizens who have representatives to vote.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #171 on: October 18, 2024, 09:53:40 PM »
Waiting requires patience and the DCA method teaches us to wait for our assets to grow by buying gradually. for investors who hold long term also have high patience with free capital, because patience will be tested when we are faced with needs.

You are right, I have seen that sometimes the market can be manipulated, first in 2017 on bitfinex they entered with the shorts, and that was something impressive, now there the DCA method was essential, but the most important thing of all this is that the method applies currently, from now on, because the price has not yet reached the ATH, so for me the opportunity is there and it cannot be wasted, it is up to us to do it, at any time it can be done as long as it is done with the intelligence that the investment requires, despite the possible manipulations that exist in the world.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #171 on: October 18, 2024, 09:53:40 PM »


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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #172 on: October 18, 2024, 10:10:53 PM »


You are right, I have seen that sometimes the market can be manipulated, first in 2017 on bitfinex they entered with the shorts, and that was something impressive, now there the DCA method was essential, but the most important thing of all this is that the method applies currently, from now on, because the price has not yet reached the ATH, so for me the opportunity is there and it cannot be wasted, it is up to us to do it, at any time it can be done as long as it is done with the intelligence that the investment requires, despite the possible manipulations that exist in the world.
Yes, the crypto market is often manipulated and we must remain calm because that's how the crypto market is.
I also use the DCA method because the bullrun is ongoing and the ATH of some coins I hold has not reached ATH yet.
While waiting for the top bullish we can still buy coins with DCA

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #173 on: October 19, 2024, 05:26:06 AM »
I think that currently there are many BTC holders who can read the situation so that the market goes down so they compete to buy BTC even if it's only a few cents, weak hand owners are currently very rare to find, because they believe that BTC will go back up even though they don't know for sure when there will be a movement towards the moon again

Yes, well, over time most weak hands have learned that things are like that, from losing and losing so much they have to learn, however there are still many people who make the same mistakes and sell when they shouldn't sell, although I have seen that the news is what influences people the most now, social networks and everything that has to do with information are like that, and that has already been the marking of an era that is very informed and that the news is what they look for the most , that's where everything comes from, Twitter, Instagram , Meta , everything , that's what has made things in the market be like that.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #174 on: October 19, 2024, 04:27:08 PM »
I think that currently there are many BTC holders who can read the situation so that the market goes down so they compete to buy BTC even if it's only a few cents, weak hand owners are currently very rare to find, because they believe that BTC will go back up even though they don't know for sure when there will be a movement towards the moon again

Yes, well, over time most weak hands have learned that things are like that, from losing and losing so much they have to learn, however there are still many people who make the same mistakes and sell when they shouldn't sell, although I have seen that the news is what influences people the most now, social networks and everything that has to do with information are like that, and that has already been the marking of an era that is very informed and that the news is what they look for the most , that's where everything comes from, Twitter, Instagram , Meta , everything , that's what has made things in the market be like that.
In investing we must learn from mistakes or losses, it will be a bad experience in our lives and we must learn by changing strategies and practicing skills in making analysis and predictions. a trader also often experiences defeat when they start learning trading and they learn from those mistakes by staying focused and calm changing strategies in order to gain profit.
We must not give up when we experience defeat and make mistakes, we must learn and continue to learn in order to become a professional.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #175 on: October 19, 2024, 04:43:01 PM »


You are right, I have seen that sometimes the market can be manipulated, first in 2017 on bitfinex they entered with the shorts, and that was something impressive, now there the DCA method was essential, but the most important thing of all this is that the method applies currently, from now on, because the price has not yet reached the ATH, so for me the opportunity is there and it cannot be wasted, it is up to us to do it, at any time it can be done as long as it is done with the intelligence that the investment requires, despite the possible manipulations that exist in the world.
Yes, the crypto market is often manipulated and we must remain calm because that's how the crypto market is.
I also use the DCA method because the bullrun is ongoing and the ATH of some coins I hold has not reached ATH yet.
While waiting for the top bullish we can still buy coins with DCA
Man, you are funny, if you believe that the crypto market is being manipulated and you don't want to keep calm, what exactly can you or will you do? In the situation where you have no other options available to you but just one, you don't (choose to) on that one option available, you simply accept it because you have no choice but to.

And what I am saying is, for many of us here that believe that the crypto market, or bitcoin is being manipulated, we don't choose to keep calm, we simply keep calm because there is absolutely nothing you or I, or anyone of us can do about it, we simply learn to play along with the big boys, else, we might not get anything at the end of the day.

But that's by the way, for personally, I believe the market is just doing it's thing, whether it's been manipulated or not, what will be, will always be.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #176 on: October 19, 2024, 07:35:40 PM »


You are right, I have seen that sometimes the market can be manipulated, first in 2017 on bitfinex they entered with the shorts, and that was something impressive, now there the DCA method was essential, but the most important thing of all this is that the method applies currently, from now on, because the price has not yet reached the ATH, so for me the opportunity is there and it cannot be wasted, it is up to us to do it, at any time it can be done as long as it is done with the intelligence that the investment requires, despite the possible manipulations that exist in the world.
Yes, the crypto market is often manipulated and we must remain calm because that's how the crypto market is.
I also use the DCA method because the bullrun is ongoing and the ATH of some coins I hold has not reached ATH yet.
While waiting for the top bullish we can still buy coins with DCA
Man, you are funny, if you believe that the crypto market is being manipulated and you don't want to keep calm, what exactly can you or will you do? In the situation where you have no other options available to you but just one, you don't (choose to) on that one option available, you simply accept it because you have no choice but to.

And what I am saying is, for many of us here that believe that the crypto market, or bitcoin is being manipulated, we don't choose to keep calm, we simply keep calm because there is absolutely nothing you or I, or anyone of us can do about it, we simply learn to play along with the big boys, else, we might not get anything at the end of the day.

But that's by the way, for personally, I believe the market is just doing it's thing, whether it's been manipulated or not, what will be, will always be.
In my opinion, in every market, both crypto and stocks, of course there are those who play a role as players who manipulate the market, but it is only temporary because it takes a lot of money to do that and the market will return to doing its job.
The calmness that we can do is to follow their game, if we still have capital when the market goes down we buy potential coins but if the market goes up we can decide to sell them.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #177 on: October 20, 2024, 08:26:59 AM »
In my opinion, in every market, both crypto and stocks, of course there are those who play a role as players who manipulate the market, but it is only temporary because it takes a lot of money to do that and the market will return to doing its job.
The calmness that we can do is to follow their game, if we still have capital when the market goes down we buy potential coins but if the market goes up we can decide to sell them.
Market makers are a crucial part of the market to ensure liquidity, but they're also dangerous because they have the resources to manipulate the crypto market. I've accepted that the BTC price is being manipulated through media and strong capital flows, and that BTC's rise or fall on the market is often part of their manipulation plan.

Investment funds also have teams that manipulate the market to ensure they profit and distribute dividends to shareholders. Many on-chain analysis groups still track their BTC movement to predict market fluctuations in the coming weeks.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #178 on: October 20, 2024, 03:14:20 PM »

Market makers are a crucial part of the market to ensure liquidity, but they're also dangerous because they have the resources to manipulate the crypto market. I've accepted that the BTC price is being manipulated through media and strong capital flows, and that BTC's rise or fall on the market is often part of their manipulation plan.

Investment funds also have teams that manipulate the market to ensure they profit and distribute dividends to shareholders. Many on-chain analysis groups still track their BTC movement to predict market fluctuations in the coming weeks.
manipulation will always exist in every investment market, and we have also observed that it has been happening for a long time. They are a group of whales who move together with the aim of raising or lowering prices according to their wishes.
As a trader I also observe the daily volume movements of exchanges because sometimes there are movements that are out of the ordinary and seem to be price manipulation, this is just an observation that can also be wrong.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #179 on: October 20, 2024, 03:44:06 PM »
Most times the market is controlled by big investors(whales) at their own will, and this situation has been affecting the market demands.
Whales usually send heavy supply of a coins( Btc) at certain times into the market to crash the prevailing price and take a long position with the purpose of earning more. I think that whales are big manipulators of the crypto market and this has been causing a lot of fears and panic sellings. In my opinion, market manipulation is a setbacks, and a big challenge to the crypto community that should be rejected by the community.

 

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