Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders

[Crwth]

I think it is pretty much the same when it comes to the long-term traders and investors. Most of them would probably have a timeframe whether they would sell there when they have profit.

The common thing about all of it is to profit. I never heard of anyone investing in then not wanting to have a return on their investment.

[doc]

Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

They are not totally the same but relates to the financial marke. In the financial market, there are two types of investors. Longterm and short term. Long-term investors put their money into opportunities that are likely to make good profits over a long time. These investors are like the movers of the market, driving it forward. They buy large portions of the market, allowing smaller traders to buy smaller portions, which adds liquidity to their trades.
In cryptocurrency, a "holder" is someone who buys a coin or token and holds onto it for a long time without selling or trading it. They believe the coin has good potential to make a profit in the future.

All these "holders" to gain the most in bitcoin. Because they do not sell their holding under any circumstances. They firmly believe that it will grow, and hold. If every small and big investor can think like those holders and continue to hold, then everyone can benefit. So invest in Bitcoin, have faith in Bitcoin and keep holding, big profits will surely come sometime.

Becoming a bitcoin holder is an option that investors can do even though the capital is small, because we can buy bitcoin with the DCA method. but our difficulty is maintaining bitcoin for long-term holding, because sometimes good altcoins with good movements also tempt us to want to own them.

[LogitechMouse]

Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

Hmmm. I'll try to differentiate all three of them based on my understandings.

Long-term traders =  those who have been trading for a very long time. They might be holding some assets, but most of their capital are into trading.
Investors = They're the ones that are just investing, and isn't doing anything on their assets for quite some time. Maybe they will not make any move for the next 6-12 months. Kind of like a mid-term holder.
Holders = Long-term holders. Maybe at least 1 year above.

Maybe some have different definition between the three of them, but that's what I understand when I hear those words.

[SmartGold01]

Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

Hmmm. I'll try to differentiate all three of them based on my understandings.

Long-term traders =  those who have been trading for a very long time. They might be holding some assets, but most of their capital are into trading.
Investors = They're the ones that are just investing, and isn't doing anything on their assets for quite some time. Maybe they will not make any move for the next 6-12 months. Kind of like a mid-term holder.
Holders = Long-term holders. Maybe at least 1 year above.

Maybe some have different definition between the three of them, but that's what I understand when I hear those words.

long term holder should be above 1 year because anyone who invested in bitcoin less than one year can't make profit from that investment judging from how halving works, at least it's every 4 years circle and anyone who hasn't hold for the complete circle is considered to be short term because there would be no profit from that investment, except that person is a trader and they are making little profits from their trading without getting worried over the time.

[milewilda]

Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

1. Long term - 6months to years or a couple. It does matter on someones preference
2. Investors - everyone puts up money on this market considered to be one. 
3. To those who do tend to sell off 10 years or holding for the rest of their lives.

The most important thing to consider is on how you would really be setting out those sell points. There's no point on
holding when you do get old. You cant be able to make yourself just simply hold without cherishing those profits for long time.
This would really be that talking on how you would be that making such actions or decisions.

[ajiz138]

Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

Hmmm. I'll try to differentiate all three of them based on my understandings.

Long-term traders =  those who have been trading for a very long time. They might be holding some assets, but most of their capital are into trading.
Investors = They're the ones that are just investing, and isn't doing anything on their assets for quite some time. Maybe they will not make any move for the next 6-12 months. Kind of like a mid-term holder.
Holders = Long-term holders. Maybe at least 1 year above.

Maybe some have different definition between the three of them, but that's what I understand when I hear those words.

long term holder should be above 1 year because anyone who invested in bitcoin less than one year can't make profit from that investment judging from how halving works, at least it's every 4 years circle and anyone who hasn't hold for the complete circle is considered to be short term because there would be no profit from that investment, except that person is a trader and they are making little profits from their trading without getting worried over the time.

I think everyone will have a different understanding of it, and that is very natural because they have their own references of course and can also be based on their experiences.

But one thing is for sure, whether it is a long-term trader, investor, or holder must have the same goal, which is to make a profit. That is also one of the reasons why we are here and continue to learn about cryptocurrency. 

[Faisal2202]

Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

Long-term traders are those who buy tokens and sell them after a long period, such as a few months or maybe a year later. They don't sell their assets until they reach the target they set at the start. As for investors and holders, I often consider them the same, but I know there's a difference. Holders invest in tokens, then forget about them and hold onto them indefinitely.

I don't mean "literally" indefinitely, but they don't sell their holdings until 4 to 7 years have passed and they don't care about what's going on in the market as it doesn't matter to them. Investors, on the other hand, invest in a coin whenever they see an opportunity and exit the market when they believe the potential profit has been fully realized. Staying in the trade beyond that point is of no use, so they exit. This isn't a bad strategy, as booking profits is also necessary.

[Rubel007]

Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

There is a difference between long term traders, Investors and Holders but not much, in one sense these are similar. Everyone's motive is often the same to make profit. By normal long term trader, we mean that after taking a trade, he prolongs it for several weeks and takes profit from it, again investors and holders cannot be distinguished. An investor can be a long-term or short-term holder. And what we think of as a direct holder is to hold the asset he buys. Everyone does these things with the intention of gaining according to their strategy.

[nakmantu99]

Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

They are not totally the same but relates to the financial marke. In the financial market, there are two types of investors. Longterm and short term. Long-term investors put their money into opportunities that are likely to make good profits over a long time. These investors are like the movers of the market, driving it forward. They buy large portions of the market, allowing smaller traders to buy smaller portions, which adds liquidity to their trades.
In cryptocurrency, a "holder" is someone who buys a coin or token and holds onto it for a long time without selling or trading it. They believe the coin has good potential to make a profit in the future.

All these "holders" to gain the most in bitcoin. Because they do not sell their holding under any circumstances. They firmly believe that it will grow, and hold. If every small and big investor can think like those holders and continue to hold, then everyone can benefit. So invest in Bitcoin, have faith in Bitcoin and keep holding, big profits will surely come sometime.

Long term hold by choosing bitcon is the right step, because many big investors choose bitcoin for long term hold, they say this is the safest coin for long term, because they believe bitcoin will be expensive in the future. I think I also agree with that, because I do it too.

[Asiska02]

Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

The only thing that can differentiate this three entities is trading and investment. If the first one you mentioned is Long term investors, then I’ll classify all of them to be the same but if it is as you mentioned it, the first one is different from the remaining two.

A long term trader could be a trader that have been in the market for a long time and have good understanding of the market trends when taking his trades and are most times profitable in their trades.

Investors and Holders are the same to me because investors are people that are willing to hold to their investment for a very long term without having any thought of touching from the investment until they’re profitable or reach a targeted amount they wish to take profit. An investor is an holder after he/she has done their investment.

An investor always looks to be profitable and without holding for the long term, there’s no way the profitability will come.

[SmartGold01]

Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

Hmmm. I'll try to differentiate all three of them based on my understandings.

Long-term traders =  those who have been trading for a very long time. They might be holding some assets, but most of their capital are into trading.
Investors = They're the ones that are just investing, and isn't doing anything on their assets for quite some time. Maybe they will not make any move for the next 6-12 months. Kind of like a mid-term holder.
Holders = Long-term holders. Maybe at least 1 year above.

Maybe some have different definition between the three of them, but that's what I understand when I hear those words.

long term holder should be above 1 year because anyone who invested in bitcoin less than one year can't make profit from that investment judging from how halving works, at least it's every 4 years circle and anyone who hasn't hold for the complete circle is considered to be short term because there would be no profit from that investment, except that person is a trader and they are making little profits from their trading without getting worried over the time.

I think everyone will have a different understanding of it, and that is very natural because they have their own references of course and can also be based on their experiences.

But one thing is for sure, whether it is a long-term trader, investor, or holder must have the same goal, which is to make a profit. That is also one of the reasons why we are here and continue to learn about cryptocurrency. 

Certainly that is why we are here to gain knowledge and then implement them to turn out for reality, we all know that everyone interest is to make profits but if not properly implemented then lose is inevitable because we need them to work in our day to day trading or investment and holdings. The reason most people lose investment is not only because they are too careful but sometimes they are too greedy and if that greed nature would be eliminated then it's fine for them to soar.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

        -       The ones you mentioned are types of communities that are entering the crypto space, because there are people who don't want to think it's stressful, so they only do it long-term, so they're just waiting for what they'll do when the time is right when they want to sell it.

And the others, while the crypto potentials are accumulating in the market, invest after investing thinking that they will be able to accumulate a large profit; only two of these are the holders.

[ajiz138]

I think everyone will have a different understanding of it, and that is very natural because they have their own references of course and can also be based on their experiences.

But one thing is for sure, whether it is a long-term trader, investor, or holder must have the same goal, which is to make a profit. That is also one of the reasons why we are here and continue to learn about cryptocurrency. 

Certainly that is why we are here to gain knowledge and then implement them to turn out for reality, we all know that everyone interest is to make profits but if not properly implemented then lose is inevitable because we need them to work in our day to day trading or investment and holdings. The reason most people lose investment is not only because they are too careful but sometimes they are too greedy and if that greed nature would be eliminated then it's fine for them to soar.

Well, those are the traits that we all must eliminate, because those traits are what lead us into losses that will make us slump later.

We may set targets, but the targets we apply must be reasonable, don't let them be excessive. For example, when we have a small capital, but we want to get the same benefits as those felt by people who bring larger capital, clearly that doesn't make sense, right?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

First, let me say that investors and hodlers are the same, one have to invest to have something to hold right? So, that "investors" "holders" should have been merged into one, so the debate or comparison should have been "long term traders vs investors/holders.

And to say what I think, a long term trader is and remains a trader regardless of how long he or she has been trading, while an investor, a holder is the same as well.
And I see no reason to really compare this two because, one can always be the two, like, I can be a trader and also an investor, investing is not something that consumes time, you only need funds, and a little time for some research, then buy and move to your private wallet, this gives you enough time to be a trader as well if you don't have any other job you do.

Even someone who is working a day job can still be a crypto investor and a long term trader as well, only thing is, he or she will have to make his or her trading be on part time basis.

[SmartGold01]

I think everyone will have a different understanding of it, and that is very natural because they have their own references of course and can also be based on their experiences.

But one thing is for sure, whether it is a long-term trader, investor, or holder must have the same goal, which is to make a profit. That is also one of the reasons why we are here and continue to learn about cryptocurrency. 

Certainly that is why we are here to gain knowledge and then implement them to turn out for reality, we all know that everyone interest is to make profits but if not properly implemented then lose is inevitable because we need them to work in our day to day trading or investment and holdings. The reason most people lose investment is not only because they are too careful but sometimes they are too greedy and if that greed nature would be eliminated then it's fine for them to soar.

Well, those are the traits that we all must eliminate, because those traits are what lead us into losses that will make us slump later.

We may set targets, but the targets we apply must be reasonable, don't let them be excessive. For example, when we have a small capital, but we want to get the same benefits as those felt by people who bring larger capital, clearly that doesn't make sense, right?

Every trader and investors knows what they want and if they think that setting a little rules gives them required results then fine you would see them using that system or method to say to effectively makes profits since almost everyone trading are trading for profit. Of course no investors and traders who ventured here with the sole purpose of losing what they had invested instead looking for ways to increase their profits.