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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #75 on: September 29, 2024, 07:11:15 PM »
Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

To me, they both have a plan for the same thing, which is profit, so regardless of how we are going to differentiate this, it will still come and end up in the same thing, which is why I said it was almost the same thing. They are both looking for profit. A long trader is trading for a long time; before he makes a profit from his trade, it will take some period of time, maybe a month or even more.

Investors and holders are almost always doing the same thing. But investors may not be for a long time, while Holders are people who are ready for a long-term investment. 

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #76 on: September 29, 2024, 07:39:58 PM »
Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

To me, they both have a plan for the same thing, which is profit, so regardless of how we are going to differentiate this, it will still come and end up in the same thing, which is why I said it was almost the same thing. They are both looking for profit. A long trader is trading for a long time; before he makes a profit from his trade, it will take some period of time, maybe a month or even more.

Investors and holders are almost always doing the same thing. But investors may not be for a long time, while Holders are people who are ready for a long-term investment.
Yes, it do really just simply differs into the duration on where these type of traders/investors would really be doing on which they would really be just that after for making profits in the end of the line. The duration will really be that different because there would really be thos people who do really want to see their profits in a short time period and there are ones who do go for long term.
It woulc really be that actually depending into you on which we know that when it comes into this aspect then this is something that falls down into someones preference on what are the
things that they do prefer into. We do know that not all would be the same when it comes into intent and approach towards things.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #77 on: September 29, 2024, 10:53:43 PM »
Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?
I think the three things you mentioned here are the same. A long-time trader is a holder and an individual investor has a tendency to hold long-term among the three individuals. So I don't see the difference here. However, the difference between a long-term trader and a long-term investor is a little different because a long-term trader may not be a long-term trader if he has a lot of profit in trading, but on the other hand a long-term trader may sell at his maximum profit. A holder and an investor will not sell even if they see a lot of profit. I find the only difference here.
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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #78 on: September 29, 2024, 11:15:42 PM »
I do agree.
It all depends on expertise, time needed, and a bit of luck.
Usually going long-term while investing is great because the risks are smaller in comparison. Without the needed knowledge, you can easily lose your funds while trading.
But the potential in
Only traders need luck, investors don’t need luck since they’re are not mostly after short term profits, thereby avoid attempting to time the market in order to make quick profits, only those who try to time the market needs luck since they’re not able to accurately predict the market, they can only rely on luck to help them maximize profits.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #79 on: September 30, 2024, 01:56:28 PM »
I do agree.
It all depends on expertise, time needed, and a bit of luck.
Usually going long-term while investing is great because the risks are smaller in comparison. Without the needed knowledge, you can easily lose your funds while trading.
But the potential in
Only traders need luck, investors don’t need luck since they’re are not mostly after short term profits, thereby avoid attempting to time the market in order to make quick profits, only those who try to time the market needs luck since they’re not able to accurately predict the market, they can only rely on luck to help them maximize profits.
Well, Investors and traders have completely different attitudes to the market. Business people are often short-term oriented, and they attempt to enter into the market at various points with the view to exiting when they get the highest returns. This does entail high risk since the market is a hard factor to assess, therefore, they depend on luck besides the analytical results. They use high volatility to make their profits within the shortest time possible, a strategy that may or may not pay off.

Main investors are more concerned with long term and their actions are done more based on earnings and returns of an asset and not room to room fluctuations. Since they can put in their money and sit back to wait for their returns, they do not bother to time the market. They like to sink their capital into assets that they think have positive prospects for the future, and therefore, are not inclined to the kind of pressure that compels one to make a quick buck. By so doing, chance plays a relatively small role because they are interested in achieving consistent steady and long term growth.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #80 on: September 30, 2024, 03:35:03 PM »
Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?
Its really important concern crypto trading. Among them long term traders and holder almost same thing.I think he/she trade for long term actually he/she holding this coin So not much different between them. However Investor is a bit different cause he is doing investment if he get his profit he might exit. On the hand long term trader and holder hold their coin for long term to get huge profit.I have seen many times that holder and long time trade almost gain their profit what they want. On other side investor invest.on different coin and get his profit. Eventually it is almost these there is same. They invest, hold, and trade for long term to reach a level and exit with a handsome return.
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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #81 on: September 30, 2024, 04:14:33 PM »
Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?
I think the three things you mentioned here are the same. A long-time trader is a holder and an individual investor has a tendency to hold long-term among the three individuals. So I don't see the difference here. However, the difference between a long-term trader and a long-term investor is a little different because a long-term trader may not be a long-term trader if he has a lot of profit in trading, but on the other hand a long-term trader may sell at his maximum profit. A holder and an investor will not sell even if they see a lot of profit. I find the only difference here.
according to the title discussed, I think all three are the same, only if we look at it from their point of view, they both sell and buy, but slightly different, namely in the way they manage their assets so that each individual is different in building a strategy or plan so that they get profit from their assets.. some trade in the long term and some seek profit every day.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #82 on: October 01, 2024, 01:42:16 PM »
Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?
I have a very valuable experience from cryptocurrency as a holder because to become an investor and trader requires a lot of capital. I have my own instincts for traders and investors in cryptocurrency that will not be profitable for me.
I tried to hold coins with a small capital and it seems like I'm starting to get nervous because the value of the coins I'm holding now is going down, this proves that I personally am not suitable to be a trader and investor in cryptocurrency because just by holding coins with a small capital my feelings are already confused.
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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #83 on: October 03, 2024, 09:04:51 PM »
Talking about safe and right crypto currency, it seems that bitcoin is the main choice. Because bitcoin is always a priority for big investors for long-term holding. We can also choose other potential altcoins, currently I like BNB, TON and Solana as favorite altcoins, sorry I don't really like ethereum in this cycle because it seems to be struggling.

Well it is a fact that things with bitcoin we have a great advantage, because it is no secret that it is the safest currency and action, we can take risks with other currencies , but it is up to us to assume such risk, personally the only currency that I recommend anyone to buy is Bitcoin , the rest I do not do it because the alts are always somewhat unstable, for me the only currency with a life of its own is Bitcoin, the others or to be specific all depend on btc either directly or indirectly.
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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #84 on: October 06, 2024, 02:56:02 AM »
Talking about safe and right crypto currency, it seems that bitcoin is the main choice. Because bitcoin is always a priority for big investors for long-term holding. We can also choose other potential altcoins, currently I like BNB, TON and Solana as favorite altcoins, sorry I don't really like ethereum in this cycle because it seems to be struggling.

Well it is a fact that things with bitcoin we have a great advantage, because it is no secret that it is the safest currency and action, we can take risks with other currencies , but it is up to us to assume such risk, personally the only currency that I recommend anyone to buy is Bitcoin , the rest I do not do it because the alts are always somewhat unstable, for me the only currency with a life of its own is Bitcoin, the others or to be specific all depend on btc either directly or indirectly.
Bitcoin has always been the top choice for big investors, because it is relatively safer and if bought during bearish and held until bullish season will get big profit. Altcoin is a riskier coin but every coin that has a bigger risk will bring bigger profit, but it is recommended to choose the top altcoin because it is safer.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #85 on: October 09, 2024, 05:46:57 AM »
Talking about safe and right crypto currency, it seems that bitcoin is the main choice. Because bitcoin is always a priority for big investors for long-term holding. We can also choose other potential altcoins, currently I like BNB, TON and Solana as favorite altcoins, sorry I don't really like ethereum in this cycle because it seems to be struggling.

Well it is a fact that things with bitcoin we have a great advantage, because it is no secret that it is the safest currency and action, we can take risks with other currencies , but it is up to us to assume such risk, personally the only currency that I recommend anyone to buy is Bitcoin , the rest I do not do it because the alts are always somewhat unstable, for me the only currency with a life of its own is Bitcoin, the others or to be specific all depend on btc either directly or indirectly.
Bitcoin has always been the top choice for big investors, because it is relatively safer and if bought during bearish and held until bullish season will get big profit. Altcoin is a riskier coin but every coin that has a bigger risk will bring bigger profit, but it is recommended to choose the top altcoin because it is safer.
Indeed, Bitcoin is also seen as relatively safer for large investors since it occupies a large share in the crypto platform and is known as the first recognized crypto currency. The basic approach to investment involves purchasing bitcoin during bearish times then waiting for the bullish times to make big profits because bitcoin price changes are less frequent compared to altcoins. But at the same time it is necessary to take into consideration time and situation on the world stock markets to achieve maximum results.

But altcoins provide bigger profit with even higher risks. In case you are looking to diversify you crypto, it may be safer to go for top altcoins or those with solid fundamentals. Eminent altcoins tend to be more liquid and are backed by a larger support base than the rest of the other alt coins. But be wise while selecting altcoins, do not stop following the project and the advancement in the crypto world.
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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #86 on: October 09, 2024, 11:16:40 PM »
Bitcoin has always been the top choice for big investors, because it is relatively safer and if bought during bearish and held until bullish season will get big profit. Altcoin is a riskier coin but every coin that has a bigger risk will bring bigger profit, but it is recommended to choose the top altcoin because it is safer.

In a fact that the best time to buy bitcoin is when it is in its accumulation stage, of course at this point those who have not been able to buy because it seems very expensive have the option of applying the DCA method which is a great way to get bitcoin, then in this sense if things go well, it can be said that it is now possible to have BTC, even if they are fractions, the best thing is that while it is below its ATH it is widely safe to buy, since things can look excellent when it goes up in price.
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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #87 on: October 09, 2024, 11:19:15 PM »
Bitcoin has always been the top choice for big investors, because it is relatively safer and if bought during bearish and held until bullish season will get big profit. Altcoin is a riskier coin but every coin that has a bigger risk will bring bigger profit, but it is recommended to choose the top altcoin because it is safer.
Of course. Bitcoin must be the first option, it is the priority of each crypto investor. It is a bit strange if there is someone who doesn't want to invest in Bitcoin. It is the safest crypto investment, we know well the price move of Bitcoin in 4 years-cycle. Bitcoin also has halving that can trigger the price move easily. It is different with altcoins that may have their own factors. But if we want to invest in top altcoins, I think it is quite safe, too.


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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #88 on: October 14, 2024, 07:53:29 PM »
But altcoins provide bigger profit with even higher risks. In case you are looking to diversify you crypto, it may be safer to go for top altcoins or those with solid fundamentals. Eminent altcoins tend to be more liquid and are backed by a larger support base than the rest of the other alt coins. But be wise while selecting altcoins, do not stop following the project and the advancement in the crypto world.

Well I have seen many threads where I try to find information about alts, but to be honest there is none that catches my attention, for example the token projects are all the same, they do not give incentives like before, the rewards are practically alms, before a reward was equivalent to more than $ 10k and if that investment went up it went up so much that you could buy btc now, now if there is a good movement it is not even enough to buy 0.5 Bitcoin, I think that for that reason ICOS , the projects , the alts have lost a lot of reliability, the alts that I see that can give good returns are ETH and at least the top 5 of CMC.
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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #89 on: October 16, 2024, 10:40:48 AM »
Bitcoin has always been the top choice for big investors, because it is relatively safer and if bought during bearish and held until bullish season will get big profit. Altcoin is a riskier coin but every coin that has a bigger risk will bring bigger profit, but it is recommended to choose the top altcoin because it is safer.
Of course. Bitcoin must be the first option, it is the priority of each crypto investor. It is a bit strange if there is someone who doesn't want to invest in Bitcoin. It is the safest crypto investment, we know well the price move of Bitcoin in 4 years-cycle. Bitcoin also has halving that can trigger the price move easily. It is different with altcoins that may have their own factors. But if we want to invest in top altcoins, I think it is quite safe, too.
Bitcoin is usually considered as one of the safest binary options because of its stability and price dynamics which can bring profit especially at the 4 year cycle as you have mentioned, it is called Halving cycle This cycle moves price significantly often causing its large increase as the supply of new mined coins shrinks. That is why, for investors who search for safety and the good perspective for the increase in the rates, Bitcoin is always a priority.

The same is true of other most popular altcoins they may also open quite interesting investment opportunities for those who know the projects behind these tokens and the prospects of the technologies used by these projects. Some altcoins can have slightly higher risks but they also contain much more potential for the growth as it is the case with those coins which have a giant community and an already developed ecosystem. If an investor is seeking to invest in diversified assets, it might not be a bad idea for it to invest in top altcoins on the condition that it does advanced research on the fundamentals and what the specific projects aims to achieve.
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