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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #105 on: October 23, 2024, 04:18:19 PM »

Yes, this strategy is a strategy that I have felt the benefits of myself. Everyone has their own strategy and this is just sharing experiences. There are many ways to do it, it depends on our comfort.

I also choose the more comfortable one because it will make me calmer. Because there are some strategies that are actually equally profitable, but I am not more comfortable doing them than what I am doing now.
Choose a strategy that you feel comfortable doing and never force a strategy that you are not capable of and not focused on running. For example, you choose daily trading while you are busy in the real world that makes you unable to focus on monitoring the market, you should choose long-term hold. This will make you more focused on real-world work and occasionally look at the market.
I also adjust to that, because I also have a job in the real world. when my real-world busyness increases I am forced not to trade.
We do have to adjust to the situation and conditions we experience. Don't force yourself just because you want to make a profit even though your situation doesn't allow it. That will make us feel a loss rather than a profit.

Don't rush because the market won't go anywhere, I mean we can take advantage of the market anytime and anywhere as long as we can master our knowledge and experience well.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #106 on: October 23, 2024, 08:23:10 PM »
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Don't rush because the market won't go anywhere, I mean we can take advantage of the market anytime and anywhere as long as we can master our knowledge and experience well.
As long as you don't get tempted by FOMO and then enter at a high price.
Although the market will not go anywhere, it is important to regulate where you enter and where you exit.

Leveraging the market as you mean is taking advantage of market fluctuations to make a profit, It is a quick trade that can make it possible to make a quick profit.
But it also depends on whether you want to use any trading method.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #107 on: October 24, 2024, 03:01:28 PM »
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Don't rush because the market won't go anywhere, I mean we can take advantage of the market anytime and anywhere as long as we can master our knowledge and experience well.
As long as you don't get tempted by FOMO and then enter at a high price.
Although the market will not go anywhere, it is important to regulate where you enter and where you exit.

Leveraging the market as you mean is taking advantage of market fluctuations to make a profit, It is a quick trade that can make it possible to make a quick profit.
But it also depends on whether you want to use any trading method.
Well FOMO is one of the problems for traders and investors. There are still many people like that, especially beginners. When they see someone making a profit, they will also enter without thinking twice, this is what ultimately makes them at a loss.

We can only remind you, because all decisions will return to each individual. This is also of course based on the experiences we have had before.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #108 on: October 24, 2024, 08:28:24 PM »
Well FOMO is one of the problems for traders and investors. There are still many people like that, especially beginners. When they see someone making a profit, they will also enter without thinking twice, this is what ultimately makes them at a loss.
FOMO will indeed be a problem for anyone if they do not learn to remain patient and do market analysis.
Those who are too greedy to enter high prices in the hope that the price will continue to rise, even though it will only be the peak of price resistance which will then fall continuously.

I am also still learning to avoid FOMO as much as possible so that I will not suffer a bigger loss, everything must be learned correctly.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #109 on: October 25, 2024, 04:52:02 PM »
Well FOMO is one of the problems for traders and investors. There are still many people like that, especially beginners. When they see someone making a profit, they will also enter without thinking twice, this is what ultimately makes them at a loss.
FOMO will indeed be a problem for anyone if they do not learn to remain patient and do market analysis.
Those who are too greedy to enter high prices in the hope that the price will continue to rise, even though it will only be the peak of price resistance which will then fall continuously.

I am also still learning to avoid FOMO as much as possible so that I will not suffer a bigger loss, everything must be learned correctly.
I am the same, because sometimes when we see the market situation is good but we are not in it, the urge to enter the market is very high, especially when we see other people making a profit.

This is a very normal thing, because as humans we will always feel such a great desire. However, it is our job to be able to control ourselves as best we can so that we are not tempted by something that is very high risk.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #110 on: October 25, 2024, 11:53:11 PM »
Well FOMO is one of the problems for traders and investors. There are still many people like that, especially beginners. When they see someone making a profit, they will also enter without thinking twice, this is what ultimately makes them at a loss.
FOMO will indeed be a problem for anyone if they do not learn to remain patient and do market analysis.
Those who are too greedy to enter high prices in the hope that the price will continue to rise, even though it will only be the peak of price resistance which will then fall continuously.

I am also still learning to avoid FOMO as much as possible so that I will not suffer a bigger loss, everything must be learned correctly.
I am the same, because sometimes when we see the market situation is good but we are not in it, the urge to enter the market is very high, especially when we see other people making a profit.

This is a very normal thing, because as humans we will always feel such a great desire. However, it is our job to be able to control ourselves as best we can so that we are not tempted by something that is very high risk.
Experience will make us not tempted but we must observe and make analysis if we see a good market and are interested in entering, because successful investors are those who can enter and exit on time.
so we can do everything if we can make accurate analysis and predictions.
and this is suitable for trading or short and medium term investment.
risk management is needed in this case, because we have to take the smallest risk.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #111 on: October 26, 2024, 06:44:53 AM »
Experience will make us not tempted but we must observe and make analysis if we see a good market and are interested in entering, because successful investors are those who can enter and exit on time.
so we can do everything if we can make accurate analysis and predictions.
and this is suitable for trading or short and medium term investment.
risk management is needed in this case, because we have to take the smallest risk.
Well, Market analysis and accurate prediction are very crucial when it comes to trading and investment and experience or market time does not equal success. Novice investors lose their money because they are new to investing, while the most experienced investors can also suffer losses due to unanticipated change in markets or other global events that may have an impact on the general economy. It adds that between 80% and 90% lose money when engaging in active trading in the financial markets, principally due to high volatility, which is often unpredictable. Moreover, eradication of risk to its lowest level is unattainable, because the external factors exist irrespective of the efficient risk management and every investment may contain amount of risk no matter how efficient the management. This demonstrates that in addition to analysis, there is also requirement of comprehension of volatility and change.
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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #111 on: October 26, 2024, 06:44:53 AM »


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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #112 on: October 26, 2024, 10:02:17 AM »
Well, Market analysis and accurate prediction are very crucial when it comes to trading and investment and experience or market time does not equal success. Novice investors lose their money because they are new to investing, while the most experienced investors can also suffer losses due to unanticipated change in markets or other global events that may have an impact on the general economy. It adds that between 80% and 90% lose money when engaging in active trading in the financial markets, principally due to high volatility, which is often unpredictable. Moreover, eradication of risk to its lowest level is unattainable, because the external factors exist irrespective of the efficient risk management and every investment may contain amount of risk no matter how efficient the management. This demonstrates that in addition to analysis, there is also requirement of comprehension of volatility and change.
Market analysis and prediction are crucial for trading and investing. However they do not ensure success. And experienced investors also can not completely avoid risk due to unexpected market changes and global events. Fact that 80 to 90% of traders lose money shows how important it is to understand market ups and downs and be flexible.

Recognizing risks and uncertainties in trading and investing helps adopt smarter and more resilient approach. This balances analysis with adaptability increasing chances of success.
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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #113 on: October 26, 2024, 11:48:10 AM »
Well FOMO is one of the problems for traders and investors. There are still many people like that, especially beginners. When they see someone making a profit, they will also enter without thinking twice, this is what ultimately makes them at a loss.
FOMO will indeed be a problem for anyone if they do not learn to remain patient and do market analysis.
Those who are too greedy to enter high prices in the hope that the price will continue to rise, even though it will only be the peak of price resistance which will then fall continuously.

I am also still learning to avoid FOMO as much as possible so that I will not suffer a bigger loss, everything must be learned correctly.
I am the same, because sometimes when we see the market situation is good but we are not in it, the urge to enter the market is very high, especially when we see other people making a profit.

This is a very normal thing, because as humans we will always feel such a great desire. However, it is our job to be able to control ourselves as best we can so that we are not tempted by something that is very high risk.
Sooner or later you would really be able to make those kind of realizations and would really be that finding out that emotion control is really that needed.
Finding yourself having that kind of engagement with volatile market and sees out other people making profits. It cant really be that removed out that
there would really be those urges on which you would really be that trying out to copy on what they have achieved. It is really that depending on you
on what are the methods that you would be making use as long you do know on how to handle your investments.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #114 on: October 26, 2024, 12:36:48 PM »

Yes, this strategy is a strategy that I have felt the benefits of myself. Everyone has their own strategy and this is just sharing experiences. There are many ways to do it, it depends on our comfort.

I also choose the more comfortable one because it will make me calmer. Because there are some strategies that are actually equally profitable, but I am not more comfortable doing them than what I am doing now.
Choose a strategy that you feel comfortable doing and never force a strategy that you are not capable of and not focused on running. For example, you choose daily trading while you are busy in the real world that makes you unable to focus on monitoring the market, you should choose long-term hold. This will make you more focused on real-world work and occasionally look at the market.
I also adjust to that, because I also have a job in the real world. when my real-world busyness increases I am forced not to trade.
We do have to adjust to the situation and conditions we experience. Don't force yourself just because you want to make a profit even though your situation doesn't allow it. That will make us feel a loss rather than a profit.

Don't rush because the market won't go anywhere, I mean we can take advantage of the market anytime and anywhere as long as we can master our knowledge and experience well.
Even though someone would implore trading methods that would help them it should be that they carefully study it and have patient over it because most time that is were traders faces difficulties because of lack of patient, to study and understand the market very well before implementing that strategy to trade with it and if possible backtesting would be more appropriate for successful trading.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #115 on: October 26, 2024, 01:06:54 PM »
I consider investors and holders as the same type. Long term traders are completely different from the two. If you want to be an investor, you can simply hold the assets or crypto that you have bought. Whereas being a long term trader, you can speak for the futures with this and as you trade it's a decision to do long or short. That's my understanding with the long term traders because if you only say long term, then all of the three are the same with removed word of "trader".

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #116 on: October 26, 2024, 01:56:35 PM »
I am the same, because sometimes when we see the market situation is good but we are not in it, the urge to enter the market is very high, especially when we see other people making a profit.

This is a very normal thing, because as humans we will always feel such a great desire. However, it is our job to be able to control ourselves as best we can so that we are not tempted by something that is very high risk.
Experience will make us not tempted but we must observe and make analysis if we see a good market and are interested in entering, because successful investors are those who can enter and exit on time.
so we can do everything if we can make accurate analysis and predictions.
and this is suitable for trading or short and medium term investment.
risk management is needed in this case, because we have to take the smallest risk.
That is the lesson we can learn that we may not be able to get from anywhere else, namely experience. With experience we can better understand what we should do when we are in a situation like this.

Experience will lead us to be able to suppress the great desire that may come from our greed when we see someone getting a big profit from the market they enter. You are right, that we must be able to enter and exit at the right time.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #117 on: October 26, 2024, 02:25:23 PM »
       -      We all know that you will not be long-term traders and holders if we are not a type of investor. Unless you are a bounty hunter who has received bounty rewards,
you cannot be considered an investor, but you can shop if you are a long-term trader or holder of crypto assets that we received in a campaign project.

Or it is also possible that if the rewards we received from the bounty projects are once we can sell them in trading, we can buy other crypto assets
in which we are already investors.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #118 on: October 26, 2024, 02:59:05 PM »
       -      We all know that you will not be long-term traders and holders if we are not a type of investor. Unless you are a bounty hunter who has received bounty rewards,
you cannot be considered an investor, but you can shop if you are a long-term trader or holder of crypto assets that we received in a campaign project.

Or it is also possible that if the rewards we received from the bounty projects are once we can sell them in trading, we can buy other crypto assets
in which we are already investors.
I am a holder and trader, so can I be considered an investor? because I am more focused on long-term holding and trading in altcoin.
I only follow bounties when I have time to make posts, so I am not a bounty hunter because while I am making posts I am learning and looking for new information on the forum.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #119 on: October 26, 2024, 09:58:43 PM »
Diversification is the key to maximize the profit when investing. Bitcoin is the best cryptocurrency to invest with in terms of its safety but since we all know that altcoins follow the trend of Bitcoin we should also invest in alts. Altcoins have a very big potential for you to be rich with just an ample of time, just choose the right coin to minimize the risk. I think it's good to invest 50% of your capital to Bitcoin and the other 50% to altcoins, it depends on you.
True. Diversification will make us to get profits from some coins. If we diversify in some potential coins, we may get optimum profits from some coins, not only one coin. In this way, we surely get bigger profits, especially if we are investing in the coins that can increase hundred percentages. This also minimize the risks, because we have some option of coins. Even if we lose in 1 coin, we still have other coins. But we must remember to invest in more recommended coins only.


 

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